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May 21, 2025, 04:45:59 PM
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Sat. is an officially recognized unit\part of bitcoin. But as you know, there is still no "insert Satoshi symbol" button on the forum interface toolbar. Is it time to add it yet?


Maybe it's time to add a button with the "Sat." logo (with the ability to insert a symbol)?

By the way, what does the officially recognized logo of Sat. look like?

What does the BTC-community think/say about this?

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May 21, 2025, 05:07:15 PM
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I don't think it's "a pressing issue"  Smiley
It would have made much more sense back in the day when BTC was the base currency for most trading pairs before the stable coin pandemic spread through exchanges. Coin prices were mostly quoted in sats but today "Sat" is barely used except during instances of stating the fee rates.

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May 21, 2025, 05:16:34 PM
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Well, if I'm not mistaken, the bitcoin official symbol BTC was added to unicode in 2017(someone correct me if I'm wrong)and that's what has been widely recognised till date. I'm not sure there's any symbol of sat yet, neither have I come across any discussion of such. But it would be fun though. went through some post in 2010 where the og's decided to come together and give BTC a symbol of its own and it was fun reading through. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=41.msg238#msg238

It's not actually common for major currency fractions, in this case (bitcoin being the most recognised cryptocurency)to have symbols, I guess that would cause a lot of confusion when been recognised worldwide.

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May 21, 2025, 05:22:07 PM
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By the way, what does the officially recognized logo of Sat. look like?
Your question answers it. Sat does not have any officially recognized logo.

If you want to include it in a post, you can just type it as sat that people recognized it as.

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May 21, 2025, 05:49:09 PM
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I don't think it's "a pressing issue"  Smiley
Not at all.

We already have BTC for bitcoin as it symbol there's no need for having a symbol for sats. I think if it was then it would have been done years back by the OG's when they were deliberating on what symbol to use for bitcoin.

For example the USD symbol is $ but there's no symbol for cent (pls correct me if am wrong).. And cent can relatively be said to be like sats.

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By the way, what does the officially recognized logo of Sat. look like?
Your question answers it. Sat does not have any officially recognized logo.

If you want to include it in a post, you can just type it as sat that people recognized it as.
I don't think there will be much concern on Sat until it values 1 Sat to a reasonable amount, probably a price that can cover fees.

I haven't seen a Sat symbol, i don't think we have any yet, since it is a sub-constituent of Bitcoin, it can retain the Bitcoin logo.


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"Sat" does not have any world recognized symbol like Bitcoin do, if it had, I believe it would have even been added here just like Bitcoin symbol was added too.
It's just the "Sat" abbreviation that is always used and the reason why it might not be added here is because everyone can easily type it, therefore there's no much need to add it.
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Please
Sat. is an officially recognized unit\part of bitcoin. But as you know, there is still no "insert Satoshi symbol" button on the forum interface toolbar. Is it time to add it yet?
No.
There is no even universally recognized symbol for sats yet, and this recent initiative with bitcoin units denominations change is silly in my opinion.
For anyone who didn't hear, Jack Dorsey ex-twitter owner supported bitcoin proposal BIP 177 to depreciate satoshis and redefine bitcoin base unit:
https://bips.dev/177/

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  BIP: 177
  Title: Redefine Bitcoin's Base Unit
  Author: John Carvalho <bitcoinerrorlog@gmail.com>
  Comments-URI: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/wiki/Comments:BIP-0177
  Status: Draft
  Type: Informational
  Created: 2025-04-23
  License: CC0-1.0
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0177.mediawiki

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I would support your suggestion, even though I'm not sure that I would use that button. But as others already pointed out, there is simply no such thing as Satoshi don't have such symbol which would be widely used.
And I suggest you to avoid using word "official" when you're talking about Bitcoin. There is no such thing like official Bitcoin logo, wallet, website and etc.

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Since there is no officially available logo for SAT, you could write it like this:

1 bitcoin = 1BTC
1 satoshi = 0.00000001BTC

It also makes it clearer and understandable, especially for newbies, because Bitcoin is famous and everyone recognizes its symbol. If someone sees a post where someone has written "100,000[sat logo]", they might get confused as to how much that is, but if it's written "0.001BTC", it makes it clearer and easier to understand. Smiley

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I don't think it's "a pressing issue"  Smiley
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For example the USD symbol is $ but there's no symbol for cent (pls correct me if am wrong).. And cent can relatively be said to be like sats.
The globally recognized symbol for cent is ¢

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There have been lots of proposal about this  on different platforms outside this notable forum on a possible logo for sat. The most notable is reddit where users made lots of suggestion on what the feel sat logo should look like, A user suggested  a reversed "S" with a vertical strikethrough and another

A number 8 with a small part erased to represent the opposite of infinity symbol, which is "Finity" and sats are finite, ie. absolutely scarce

But since consensus is unlikely from the numerous bitcoin communities there is no way the community will have a logo that isn't generally accepted across the various communities. The best approach is to maintain the Satoshi or sat as an abbreviation since the community already understands how many sat makes 1btc.


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Sat. is an officially recognized unit\part of bitcoin. But as you know, there is still no "insert Satoshi symbol" button on the forum interface toolbar. Is it time to add it yet?
It can be done with an extension.

You can make your request for Satoshi Iconizer there.
Bitcointalk Post Iconizer - Custom post / PM editing buttons for adding BB code

You can pull a request on Github
https://github.com/mprep-btc/Bitcointalk-Post-Iconizer

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By the way, what does the officially recognized logo of Sat. look like?
There's no official recognized logo for satoshi, but there are many proposed logo for satoshi which all of them come from Japanese. The most popular is the first one, some sites refer the logo to ≡ because it's the closest with that logo.

Unfortunately there's an altcoin using this logo https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/satoshi-sats/


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Why do you think Satoshi (Sat) should have a different logo? Is Sat a different coin? The Bitcoin logo is already added on the forum, and you can insert it. I don't think a Bitcoin unit should have another logo when it's not individual. You can use the Bitcoin symbol (logo) to write the Bitcoin unit. Does your local fiat currency have two different logos for units? Since Bitcoin is a currency, I don't think it's necessary to add the sat logo either on the forum or outside of the forum.

However, I feel a lot of important implementations are still pending on the forum. Theymos don't have enough time to think about the Sat logo, which is really unnecessary.

 
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I don't think there will be much concern on Sat until it values 1 Sat to a reasonable amount, probably a price that can cover fees.
What are you even saying? SATs are the least units of bitcoins so what reasonable value do you want it to get to?. It's just like saying that the Cents which are the smallest units of dollars will get to a reasonable value. SATs does not have any lower conversion rate so the value remains in SATs.

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For example the USD symbol is $ but there's no symbol for cent (pls correct me if am wrong).. And cent can relatively be said to be like sats.
The globally recognized symbol for cent is ¢

Well in that case it only stands to reason that it the symbol for sat should be $. So 1 sat = 1 $, sounds about right, no? Wink

In all seriousness tho I don't think it makes sense to add a sat button until there actually is an official symbol for sats. And whether we need that is just as questionable imho.
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Since there is still so much deliberations on what should and shouldn't be the official symbol or a generally acceptable symbol for sats that can't be included for now.

If it were something of importance PowerGlove would have provided a patch for it already or that would have been a topic of concern to Theymos.

Basically it's of no importance period.

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Since there is no officially available logo for SAT, you could write it like this:

1 bitcoin = 1BTC
1 satoshi = 0.00000001BTC

And how quickly will you get tired of writing a bunch of zeros? Smiley

I don't think it's "a pressing issue"  Smiley
Not at all.

We already have BTC for bitcoin as it symbol there's no need for having a symbol for sats. I think if it was then it would have been done years back by the OG's when they were deliberating on what symbol to use for bitcoin.

Ok. The Sat. symbol is not needed. So be it. But it wouldn't hurt to add the Sat. button to the toolbar, would it?

Taking into account the rise in price of bitcoin, this button will be in demand.

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By the way, what does the officially recognized logo of Sat. look like?

What does the BTC-community think/say about this?


Satoshi known to be the smallest unit of bitcoin has not Unicode symbol as my hovering around the bitcoin space and I don't think if this platform is the one to introduce it and even if it does, it will only be used here in the bitcointalk which I don't think will be recognized outside this bitcointalk platform.
Unless we would only have it in a significant that only users of the forum will understand. But then, it will be on no interest contributing to global awareness as BTC  could be.
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