Do you think campaign managers enrol their alts in their own campaigns?

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

I don't understand how JG managed to come up with this. But I don't rule out the chances of this happening.
What I remember that one campaign manager was doing then was; putting himself in the spreadsheet of the same campaign he managed and also paying himself. Meanwhile he wears avatar and signature of the same project. That was fine and transparent I think. It was Soujinali that was doing that. I don't think I got the username right.
Meanwhile, has anyone heard from him? It's been some years.

I guess you meant. sujonali1819 if I'm not mistaken, because I just checked his profile and saw that he is currently active on the forum at the moment, but it seems he was inactive for a period of 6 months, that is, judging from the gap difference between his last post that was made on 25th November 2024 and his first post of 2025 that was made on May 1st 2025, which means he was offline from the forum for a good period of 6 months. And right now he seems to be working with Blackjack signature campaign as a promotional manager. However, in regards to the issue of signature campaign managers employing itself on the same signature campaign, it is actually a common practice that I have seen lots of managers do on this forum, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

[sujonali1819]

I don't understand how JG managed to come up with this. But I don't rule out the chances of this happening.
What I remember that one campaign manager was doing then was; putting himself in the spreadsheet of the same campaign he managed and also paying himself. Meanwhile he wears avatar and signature of the same project. That was fine and transparent I think. It was Soujinali that was doing that. I don't think I got the username right.
Meanwhile, has anyone heard from him? It's been some years.

I guess you meant. sujonali1819 if I'm not mistaken, because I just checked his profile and saw that he is currently active on the forum at the moment, but it seems he was inactive for a period of 6 months, that is, judging from the gap difference between his last post that was made on 25th November 2024 and his first post of 2025 that was made on May 1st 2025, which means he was offline from the forum for a good period of 6 months. And right now he seems to be working with Blackjack signature campaign as a promotional manager. However, in regards to the issue of signature campaign managers employing itself on the same signature campaign, it is actually a common practice that I have seen lots of managers do on this forum, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Hey, what's wrong )) Why am I tagged here?

Btw Sujonali1819 is not Sujonali1819's alt.

[mcdouglasx]

OP I don't think you are a very important user of this forum but it looks like you are trying to promote yourself as a very important user. Campaign managers are very important group for the forum economic which brings the traffic. Users like you and me, we do a little for this place compering to the managers.

That being said, what is your purpose of this topic and the poll?

I will not mention names of the highly respected  campaign managers that I am certain do not cheat via this nefarious activity because the attention would fall on the managers I did not name (when attention should fall on them without me mentioning names anyway)

As far as I understood, you want to praise some managers you personally like and using an insulting tone to the managers you don't like.

How would you even know and certain that those managers you like do not do what you are imagining for the managers you don't like? A completely BS topic to read and reply.

That is the ideology of the forum: freedom.

You don't have to know why OP starts the thread; he is exercising their right to express themselves. We shouldn’t politicize everything.

From a realistic perspective, people do stupid things out of greed, so it’s not far-fetched to think that what he is saying might be happening.

I also notice inconsistencies, like users who are always accepted and move between campaigns, even when their contributions are questionable.

As you can see, I’m also not afraid to express myself, even if it might land me on blacklists. But as the saying goes, "You can't please everyone".

Imagine if the forum simply assumed that everyone was honest, what would happen?

The result would be a space filled with scams, spam, and people doing whatever they pleased. As a consequence, no one would want to promote themselves here.

But speaking in terms of metrics, do you really think advertising is a pillar of the forum?

Let’s not be hypocritical, just because advertising exists in the forum due to admin approval doesn’t mean the forum itself couldn’t exist without it. There are real forum members, people who genuinely enjoy being here, individuals offering other kinds of services.

Signature campaigns can be a great incentive for the forum, especially if you come from a third-world country like me, but everything must have its order.

In summary, I believe it’s good to question things from time to time and not take everything at face value.

[drwhobox]

How would you even know and certain that those managers you like do not do what you are imagining for the managers you don't like? A completely BS topic to read and reply.

That is the ideology of the forum: freedom.

You don't have to know why OP starts the thread; he is exercising their right to express themselves. We shouldn’t politicize everything.

Speaking about politicizing, this topic is a good example of politicizing. 

Problem: OP is certain that the managers he like does not have alt account to abuse. How? Only make sense when you involve politics.

[mcdouglasx]

How would you even know and certain that those managers you like do not do what you are imagining for the managers you don't like? A completely BS topic to read and reply.

That is the ideology of the forum: freedom.

You don't have to know why OP starts the thread; he is exercising their right to express themselves. We shouldn’t politicize everything.

Speaking about politicizing, this topic is a good example of politicizing. 

Problem: OP is certain that the managers he like does not have alt account to abuse. How? Only make sense when you involve politics.

OP has some doubts about campaign managers. Royse believes OP's words are questionable, you think campaign managers shouldn't be questioned, and I believe it's good to ask questions and not take everything at face value.

As you can see, everyone views the issue from different perspectives, so it shouldn't matter what we think or who OP favors.
The important thing is that debate opens the door for everyone to find their own truth.

Likewise, those who act in good faith shouldn't worry about being questioned.

[LTU_btc]

I guess that such things happens, probably not every person who runs campaigns is fair. But I doubt that happens at big scale. I just have nobreasons to suspect one or another member. Maybe it's not good thing, but I tend to have good initial opinion about people.

If I could say on this view or point, I think it is because most of those accounts are having negative tags and would find it difficult to be accepted in other campaigns if not campaign run by 1xbit or affiliates. I think that is the most plausible reason that they suddenly wake up to apply there. Meaning that  , they are also alts of some users here and maybe reputable members too 

Yeah, I also think so. These accounts with red tags is basically worthless and only way to monetize it is campaigns like 1xbit. But I guess that some of these members have alt accounts which are clean and enrolled in other campaigns. They stay active on forum and this is how they notice that 1xbit campaign is available.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

That was fine and transparent I think. It was Soujinali that was doing that. I don't think I got the username right.
Meanwhile, has anyone heard from him? It's been some years.

I guess you meant. sujonali1819 if I'm not mistaken, because I just checked his profile and saw that he is currently active on the forum at the moment, but it seems he was inactive for a period of 6 months, that is, judging from the gap difference between his last post that was made on 25th November 2024 and his first post of 2025 that was made on May 1st 2025, which means he was offline from the forum for a good period of 6 months.

Hey, what's wrong )) Why am I tagged here?

Btw Sujonali1819 is not Sujonali1819's alt.

Of course, I actually know you are not an alt of yourself, and sorry by the way for mentioning you here, but however, I was just only trying to proof a point to him and let him know you are still active on the forum, because he was asking has anyone heard from you? As it seems you were inactive on the forum for a good period of 6 months, (i.e from 25th November 2024 to May 1st 2025). And I'm happy to have you back, wishing you all the best Sir.

[JollyGood]

We do not know how big the scale of deception is. If campaign managers have purchased the account they are using to manage the campaign or if they have been caught using alt-accounts, then there is no reason they would stop their deception when they have ample opportunity to deceive their employers.

I guess that such things happens, probably not every person who runs campaigns is fair. But I doubt that happens at big scale. I just have nobreasons to suspect one or another member. Maybe it's not good thing, but I tend to have good initial opinion about people.

[God Of Thunder]

I don't understand how JG managed to come up with this. But I don't rule out the chances of this happening.
What I remember that one campaign manager was doing then was; putting himself in the spreadsheet of the same campaign he managed and also paying himself. Meanwhile he wears avatar and signature of the same project. That was fine and transparent I think. It was Soujinali that was doing that. I don't think I got the username right.

Does it really make sense to mention his name here? The question was, Do you think campaign managers enrol their alts in their own campaigns? And you said you know one manager was doing it and sending payment to his own address, and his name was in the spreadsheet. How the hell is Sujonali his alt account? Every manager who is in a campaign that they are running gets paid for the signatures they wear. Most managers move the funds from one wallet to another or are directly paid by the company. Even though you did not accuse him of wrongdoing, it does not make sense to mention him here. Sujonali is not his alternative account, and he is not enrolling multiple accounts in his own campaign. This type of comment can create chaos.

[babo]

so I'm about to say something stupid, try to understand

I have always been a guarantor type, that is, we are all innocent until proven guilty.

otherwise we are truly finished if we have to think badly of every little possibility

I was saying I'm about to say something stupid ON PURPOSE then we could think that theymos can also create accounts, give themselves merits and participate in campaigns
The only thing you can do if you have suspicions is not to participate in the campaigns of those you consider unworthy.

I know all the biggest managers and they are all super serious people, I don't know who hangs out in altcoins, that's for sure

[LoyceV]

I was saying I'm about to say something stupid ON PURPOSE then we could think that theymos can also create accounts, give themselves merits and participate in campaigns

I've seen this plan years ago:

if I wanted to sell highly-ranked accounts, I would just create accounts with Ultra-Legendary status, 1 million merit, +9999 trust, etc. and sell those.

Seriously though: theymos stopped ad sales which paid a lot more than signature campaigns. That doesn't strike me as someone who's shitposting in alt accounts for money.

[babo]

I was saying I'm about to say something stupid ON PURPOSE then we could think that theymos can also create accounts, give themselves merits and participate in campaigns

I've seen this plan years ago:

if I wanted to sell highly-ranked accounts, I would just create accounts with Ultra-Legendary status, 1 million merit, +9999 trust, etc. and sell those.

sarcasm
I hope I guessed right this time 

[LoyceV]

I hope I guessed right this time 

Did you follow the training?
I'm still waiting to buy my Ultra-Legendary status

[KingsDen]

That was fine and transparent I think. It was Soujinali that was doing that. I don't think I got the username right.
Meanwhile, has anyone heard from him? It's been some years.

I guess you meant. sujonali1819 if I'm not mistaken, because I just checked his profile and saw that he is currently active on the forum at the moment, but it seems he was inactive for a period of 6 months, that is, judging from the gap difference between his last post that was made on 25th November 2024 and his first post of 2025 that was made on May 1st 2025, which means he was offline from the forum for a good period of 6 months.

Hey, what's wrong )) Why am I tagged here?

Btw Sujonali1819 is not Sujonali1819's alt.

Of course, I actually know you are not an alt of yourself, and sorry by the way for mentioning you here, but however, I was just only trying to proof a point to him and let him know you are still active on the forum, because he was asking has anyone heard from you? As it seems you were inactive on the forum for a good period of 6 months, (i.e from 25th November 2024 to May 1st 2025). And I'm happy to have you back, wishing you all the best Sir.

Glad to know you are still around in the forum Sujonali1819. I was wondering that it's been long I came across your username anywhere in the forum.
Nothing serious, I remembered you as one of the transparent campaign managers I know. You used to promote the project you also manage, which is a good gesture as opposed to those who do so with their alts.
It is God of thunder that deliberately decided to misunderstand me.

[JollyGood]

The poll is a brilliant indicator to show how members feel about this subject.

According to the poll, over 55% of those that participated have basically concluded certain campaign managers have enrolled their own farmed/alt-accounts to cheat their employers.

As hard as it might be to believe, 33% of the votes are because they believe more than 1 in 5 of the participants in any campaign managed by certain managers are owned by those campaign managers.

[Shishir99]

The poll is a brilliant indicator to show how members feel about this subject.

These 27 voters do not represent the entire community. I am sure most people do not want to participate in this thread because you created it.

As hard as it might be to believe, 33% of the votes are because they believe more than 1 in 5 of the participants in any campaign managed by certain managers are owned by those campaign managers.

You should have explained the poll in your OP better so people understand that better. From the voting result, I can say that 33% of voters believe there is a 20% chance that the campaign managers are enrolling their alternative accounts in their campaign. I saw that your poll question was clear; I misunderstood that.

[EarnOnVictor]

I don't understand how JG managed to come up with this. But I don't rule out the chances of this happening.
What I remember that one campaign manager was doing then was; putting himself in the spreadsheet of the same campaign he managed and also paying himself. Meanwhile he wears avatar and signature of the same project. That was fine and transparent I think. It was Soujinali that was doing that. I don't think I got the username right.

Does it really make sense to mention his name here? The question was, Do you think campaign managers enrol their alts in their own campaigns?

I even wonder what this thread stands to gain altogether. It will only make some people run their mouths like water. Some people like to talk without knowing when to put the brakes.

And you said you know one manager was doing it and sending payment to his own address, and his name was in the spreadsheet. How the hell is Sujonali his alt account? Every manager who is in a campaign that they are running gets paid for the signatures they collect. Most managers move the funds from one wallet to another or are directly paid by the company.

I don't see any issue here at all, oh yes-- the manager may bargain a special deal and gain in three ways, which may not be privileged by the common campaign participants. They could gain: 1. From their managerial activities, 2. Wearing the Signature and 3. Wearing the avatar.

If established members are benefiting from most of these on a special package, how much more the CM? And I call it transparency for including it in the spreadsheet to make it accountable.

[babo]

The poll is a brilliant indicator to show how members feel about this subject.

According to the poll, over 55% of those that participated have basically concluded certain campaign managers have enrolled their own farmed/alt-accounts to cheat their employers.

As hard as it might be to believe, 33% of the votes are because they believe more than 1 in 5 of the participants in any campaign managed by certain managers are owned by those campaign managers.

you use percentages very conveniently I see, that's fine I can't say no
I repeat, I know most managers very well, they are very serious and meticulous people
I trust them
unless you have proof of what you say

you know instilling suspicion without proof is not very nice, at least in my opinion but I also trust your judgment, so I honestly don't know what to believe

[hackerplace]

OP stuff as old as the world i would say, where there is money there is shit to step on. You have to be careful where you walk.

[JollyGood]

The poll was not based on facts, it was based on opinions 

None of the members (including myself) are obligated to produce evidence of certain campaign managers cheating because they (and I) are expressing opinions. Believe me, if I had evidence that a certain manager was cheating his employers I would have posted it.

I cannot speak for others but in my opinion just by looking at some of the participants selected by a certain campaign manager in a recent campaign raises questions.

you use percentages very conveniently I see, that's fine I can't say no
I repeat, I know most managers very well, they are very serious and meticulous people
I trust them
unless you have proof of what you say

you know instilling suspicion without proof is not very nice, at least in my opinion but I also trust your judgment, so I honestly don't know what to believe