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[BigBos]

Yes, casinos will easily detect anything suspicious, so cheating them is nearly impossible. They have the money to purchase or pay for tools to keep their systems secure. Moreover, reputable casinos will enhance their security systems to ensure they enforce their rules.

I personally prefer not to do anything that could be considered cheating. Because even if we claim we accidentally violated the terms and conditions that led to our account being frozen, for example, they won't want to know whether it was intentional or not.

It is like saying casinos have the eye of an Eagle, they will always catch you hands down but sometimes some will leave you to keep fooling around before they will starts probing you. We should never try to outsmart casinos especially when we are playing from a region that is obviously restricted, trying to use VPN to bypass the restriction.

It is better to keep gambling on a non restricted casino than to try and bypass the restriction and going as far as depositing on the casino in order to keep gambling for the money. Honestly, I see this as a dangerous move that could lead to freezing of the account by the casino team when detected.

They will certainly allow us to continue playing after detecting any indication of cheating, because I'm sure they won't just take action immediately; they'll investigate further and confirm whether what they find is true or not.

Just like when they provide service to us, sometimes they need time to verify user complaints so they can provide the best possible service. Therefore, we must be patient when submitting complaints. We can't expect them to resolve them immediately, even though we certainly want to receive service as quickly as possible.

[Zaguru12]

Sometimes, I see apologies stated with similar IP address or matching patterns, which means the sybil check algorithm might be relying on patterns that feels two things are connected because they have similar patterns or have similarities hence it flags them as one or cheater, this is one of the reason why don't use several casino because they could even scam you with such alligation, especially when there is an insane amount of win or huge deposit in your casino wallet/account. I also agree that because they are aware of this vulnerability of their checkers they leave the window open for those who will not find it likely to let go.

Yes I understand that many people get flagged through the geological record but like we discussed if the person can prove this, then the label is removed with apologies. As for big wins, if it’s related to referrals and they suspect irregularities they place a label on the account. But sometimes they freeze withdrawals until you even provide or pass KYC, although I don’t like that but it is said to be for AML

[virasog]

Sometimes, I see apologies stated with similar IP address or matching patterns, which means the sybil check algorithm might be relying on patterns that feels two things are connected because they have similar patterns or have similarities hence it flags them as one or cheater, this is one of the reason why don't use several casino because they could even scam you with such alligation, especially when there is an insane amount of win or huge deposit in your casino wallet/account. I also agree that because they are aware of this vulnerability of their checkers they leave the window open for those who will not find it likely to let go.

I do not know how this sybil check algorithm works at the backend but usually the casino should not flag the account using a similar IP address. There can be a reason that more than one people in a house share the same IP and hence we cannot conclude that using IP necessary means a same person. Also think of a situation where few people in the office using the same IP and accessing Spinly. You should not link all those account to a single person.

Apart from the gambling patterns, they should also look for the devices and mac addresses. Usually people who share IP addresses don't share the devices and hence there need to be through checking before concluding anything.

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[Ivystar5]

Apart from the gambling patterns, they should also look for the devices and mac addresses. Usually people who share IP addresses don't share the devices and hence there need to be through checking before concluding anything.

I also agree with you but however, there is always a parliament or team of workers who are responsible for celyber security and security issues, I guess those in this office handle such related problems and then make decisions if they should take actions or not but if this accounts has no much significance to the casino automated machines do the job and if the user files an appeal then humans can look into the issue. That's my guess.

[Lida93]

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There are so many tools casinos can use to detect if a player is playing from a restricted region or not. Some of these tools are paid why some can be programmed. We don't have to think like we are smarter than the casino that allow us to play bet on their platform because they own our funds and can at the same time check if we are actually following their teams or not. There are plenty of ways to detect the . location of a player and when something is fishy, the casino can request for KYC from the player which is when everything will be unveiled.

For sure these casinos has all the resources to caught up with any player who is gambling from a restricted location through VPN. Some gamblers may assume themselves to be smart when they haven't been caught but it's really not out of their smartness though. Just maybe, the casino hasn't yet placed you on their watchlist to cramp you done with clear forensics, but the moment you're placed on watchlist you will definitely be caught.

Casinos don't take fast moves when it comes to cases like this untill you do something that make them to suspect your activities on the casino before they will start tracking you to know if you are really a true gambler betting from a safe region that will not breach their terms and conditions.
This is a business and every part of their rules has to be kept except otherwise. A casino is a private liability company that needs users to keep the ball rolling. If a casino becomes top strict, it might lose more users that is why even though when you use an alternative option to bypass a casino, they will not immediately ban you or lock your account, your activities is need on the platform.

But whatever the tactics employed by the casino to keep the traffic coming even with those from restricted locations, at the end of it all everything does end at the detriment of the gambler using the casino from a restricted location. The mild attitude they express even to a gambler from a restricted location immediately get boycotted when such gambler happens to win a huge amount from his bet or stake. And they would be in their right  doing that while the gambler lose it all in in balance.

[khaled0111]

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Casinos don’t rely only on IP addresses or gambling patterns to detect cheaters and multi-accounters.
When it comes to IP addresses, then, as usual, it’s better to read the casino terms as some of them do not accept multiple accounts from the same household.
I don’t know if this applies to Spinly, but you need to reed their terms before making such statements.
You can’t say that using the same IP address as another user to login into the casino is OK without reading the casino's ToS.

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[bhadz]

Casinos don’t rely only on IP addresses or gambling patterns to detect cheaters and multi-accounters.
When it comes to IP addresses, then, as usual, it’s better to read the casino terms as some of them do not accept multiple accounts from the same household.
I don’t know if this applies to Spinly, but you need to reed their terms before making such statements.
You can’t say that using the same IP address as another user to login into the casino is OK without reading the casino's ToS.

It applies to spinly if it's about having one account. It's on their terms of services that every user is only allowed to one account and likely in a household. So if it's about the same IP addresses and it's detected by them with multiple accounts then, that's punishable by them and might lead to banning. But if it's one account with several IP addresses, that's not a problem at all.

3.21. You have only one account with us and agree to not to open any more accounts with us;

[khaled0111]

3.21. You have only one account with us and agree to not to open any more accounts with us;

Yes, I know that you are not allowed to create more than one account with Spinly, and thank you for confirming it, but what I meant is having more than one account in the same household. What I meant is what about if you and your wife, brother, son.. want to play at Spinly, are you allowed to create an account for each one of you? I'm asking because if you do, sooner or later, you will end up using the same IP or even the same device to access the casino. I guess it’s going to be hard to prove you are not the same person.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

3.21. You have only one account with us and agree to not to open any more accounts with us;

Yes, I know that you are not allowed to create more than one account with Spinly, and thank you for confirming it, but what I meant is having more than one account in the same household. What I meant is what about if you and your wife, brother, son.. want to play at Spinly, are you allowed to create an account for each one of you? I'm asking because if you do, sooner or later, you will end up using the same IP or even the same device to access the casino. I guess it’s going to be hard to prove you are not the same person.

Spinly I believe is a kyc casino, even if it's not, there are some issues that raises up where only kyc can fix it, and to be honest, the scenerio you gave is something I think a simply kyc can fix, this is if the casino is really genuine and has no plan of unjustly stealing money from their users.

In a situation were two or more accounts are or were discovered to be accessing the casino from one IP address, what the casino will or should do is simply lock each of those accounts involved and ask each of them to perform a kyc verification, this is how the casino management can learn if the multiple account are or were being managed by one person or it's managed by different people.
Like for example, I have a router in my house which most times, my wife and siblings living with us connect to to do one or two things online, they could use this same IP address to access the same casino I am already playing on and the casino will think it's me operating more than one account, kyc is the solution to find out the truth.

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[DaNNy001]

3.21. You have only one account with us and agree to not to open any more accounts with us;

Yes, I know that you are not allowed to create more than one account with Spinly, and thank you for confirming it, but what I meant is having more than one account in the same household. What I meant is what about if you and your wife, brother, son.. want to play at Spinly, are you allowed to create an account for each one of you? I'm asking because if you do, sooner or later, you will end up using the same IP or even the same device to access the casino. I guess it’s going to be hard to prove you are not the same person.

I don't think IP address will be use for such evaluation because if that's used then this particular scenario you are describing will be the issue of the day because so many person here in my country make use of data connection or even phone like you describe to access their bet site although spinly but am trying to narrow the narrative down. I think the way the casino can take action is maybe when your bio data shows in their system to be duplicate like maybe same name or other info's.

[Wakate]

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This is one bad side of Sybil check there has never been anywhere that this tools use are most accurate most at times they might caught a wrong person, I don’t I have seen casinos that actually will boast that there Sybil checker tool is most accurate that’s why they always provide the options for the players caught wrongly to actually appeal and if the proven wrong they simply apologize sits well with me. Sybil checker tool are usual front-end tools for onchain analysis and this is definitely going to pick out some linked accounts which might not be Sybil.

Sometimes, I see apologies stated with similar IP address or matching patterns, which means the sybil check algorithm might be relying on patterns that feels two things are connected because they have similar patterns or have similarities hence it flags them as one or cheater, this is one of the reason why don't use several casino because they could even scam you with such alligation, especially when there is an insane amount of win or huge deposit in your casino wallet/account. I also agree that because they are aware of this vulnerability of their checkers they leave the window open for those who will not find it likely to let go.

Casinos that keep flagging their customers accounts for no tangible reason are doing themselves harm that might not be visible now until when it gets worse. I know casinos have the right to ban users that are cheating on their platforms but it doesn't make sense when users keep going against the well known terms and conditions that keep the casino safe for everyone.

One of the reason why we keep seeing gamblers abusing casinos terms of service is due to benefits like free, high bonuses and contest. If some gamblers can stay off being greedy, it will help casinos to spend time and money on something useful.

[Lida93]

One of the reason why we keep seeing gamblers abusing casinos terms of service is due to benefits like free, high bonuses and contest. If some gamblers can stay off being greedy, it will help casinos to spend time and money on something useful.

Bonuses are an essential part of casinos as marketing strategy to encourage customers on using the casino and attracting new users too. There is no explicable excuse to make it look as though it's the fault of casinos make bonuses available in their platform for their customers. Anyone caught abusing the bonuses terms deserves any consequence allotted.

[bhadz]

3.21. You have only one account with us and agree to not to open any more accounts with us;

Yes, I know that you are not allowed to create more than one account with Spinly, and thank you for confirming it, but what I meant is having more than one account in the same household. What I meant is what about if you and your wife, brother, son.. want to play at Spinly, are you allowed to create an account for each one of you? I'm asking because if you do, sooner or later, you will end up using the same IP or even the same device to access the casino. I guess it’s going to be hard to prove you are not the same person.

This makes sense and so the KYC policy is what going to be enforced here. So to prove that everyone plays with the same IP and not uses multiple accounts, KYC is the process for that and they have it on their safety and privacy policy. And there are guidelines set there so to spare about the IP issue, it has to be proved through KYC and one of the guidelines. And in the TOS with my understanding, it's allowed as long as there is no intention of taking advantage of the promos/bonuses given by them. Otherwise, spinly has the right to close their account if violation is found.

[iv4n]

One of the reason why we keep seeing gamblers abusing casinos terms of service is due to benefits like free, high bonuses and contest. If some gamblers can stay off being greedy, it will help casinos to spend time and money on something useful.

Gamblers gamble, and most of them don't have any serious problems. All gamblers are more or less driven by greed... a deep desire for more, which makes it hard to stop when we should. So it's not gamblers who abuse casinos and break the Terms of Service... that's what scammers do. And there will always be scammers, which is why casinos have to spend money on all kinds of protections to prevent fraud and ensure fair conditions for real players.

[jcojci]

One of the reason why we keep seeing gamblers abusing casinos terms of service is due to benefits like free, high bonuses and contest. If some gamblers can stay off being greedy, it will help casinos to spend time and money on something useful.

They think they can trick casinos and get more bonuses. They forget that the casino is the owner and will see what all of their members do. If gamblers can see this and realize that they don't have to do that, they will not abuse the system and will just play gambling like others.

It is important avoiding and not abuse casinos because they will know sooner or later. There are no benefits for us in the long term because once casino know, they will ban us and we can return to their casino.

[Y3shot]

One of the reason why we keep seeing gamblers abusing casinos terms of service is due to benefits like free, high bonuses and contest. If some gamblers can stay off being greedy, it will help casinos to spend time and money on something useful.

Bonuses are an essential part of casinos as marketing strategy to encourage customers on using the casino and attracting new users too. There is no explicable excuse to make it look as though it's the fault of casinos make bonuses available in their platform for their customers. Anyone caught abusing the bonuses terms deserves any consequence allotted.

That's true. Customers deserve high bonuses and contests. Because of greedy gamblers who want all of this for themselves, the casino won't stop providing these offers.

The only thing the casino can do because of greedy gamblers is to regulate them and be strict with those who are caught. Bonuses and contests are a way of promoting a casino to gain more customers, so they are part of the business that the casino can't put a stop to.

[Wakate]

One of the reason why we keep seeing gamblers abusing casinos terms of service is due to benefits like free, high bonuses and contest. If some gamblers can stay off being greedy, it will help casinos to spend time and money on something useful.

Bonuses are an essential part of casinos as marketing strategy to encourage customers on using the casino and attracting new users too. There is no explicable excuse to make it look as though it's the fault of casinos make bonuses available in their platform for their customers. Anyone caught abusing the bonuses terms deserves any consequence allotted.

It is not the fault of casinos to make bonus rewards available on their platforms but the fault of greedy users to take accessive advantage of every opportunity they see online just to compromise the system. Gambling is not supposed to be an activity done to cheat the system, there are so many casinos online giving new users free money and spins but some gamblers would want to use such an advantage to create multiple accounts so they can be able to make money from the casino. Some would go as far has using VPN to bypass their IP addresses just to benefit from the casino without a trace.