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[God Of Thunder]

You could complete KYC and still get ban by some casinos. This is just too complex to figure out and most time I don't like it when a casino try to detect multiple accounts only through AP address which I know can always look the same if we must judge from that.
Casinos have different tools they can use to detect and suspect multiple accounts on their casinos and I don't opt in to the use of IP address. That is an old pattern that is not so effective especially in a school environment where students connect to general WiFi to complete assignments and do other things.

Correct. Most casinos ask for a KYC before they ban a player. There is a simple reason behind it. Let's say they found some offense, which is why they have to ban the player. If they ban the player without completing the KYC, the player would create another account, and they would be able to submit their document to verify their account. However, once they complete the KYC from one account, they cannot use the same document to verify another account. So, the casinos actually ask for a KYC verification before they ban the account. There is no guarantee that a casino won't ban you if you are a KYC-verified player.

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[danadc]

IP address is the most solid proof for multiple account connections since we are on the internet which means there’s no other way to identify our identification. KYC should be one of the solution but we know that it can be faked through services that offer KYC verification.

When I was at university, in the laboratories when we connected to the Internet they used a proxy, so many confused it with a VPN and it is not, there are VPNs that are powerful and able to fool any server, even so what they cannot fool is a public IP, but when we put airplane mode and with data on our phone its IP address changes, but what does not change is that you can see the physical address, something that is difficult for them to change.

[Wakate]

You could complete KYC and still get ban by some casinos. This is just too complex to figure out and most time I don't like it when a casino try to detect multiple accounts only through AP address which I know can always look the same if we must judge from that.
Casinos have different tools they can use to detect and suspect multiple accounts on their casinos and I don't opt in to the use of IP address. That is an old pattern that is not so effective especially in a school environment where students connect to general WiFi to complete assignments and do other things.

Correct. Most casinos ask for a KYC before they ban a player. There is a simple reason behind it. Let's say they found some offense, which is why they have to ban the player. If they ban the player without completing the KYC, the player would create another account, and they would be able to submit their document to verify their account. However, once they complete the KYC from one account, they cannot use the same document to verify another account. So, the casinos actually ask for a KYC verification before they ban the account. There is no guarantee that a casino won't ban you if you are a KYC-verified player.

This has been one of the reason why we keep seeing many casino users coming to the forum to complain about how they were treated unfair and banned for no reason after completing KYC verification.
Many users might think that the complete KYC verification is to ensure that the identity of the players are known so they do go as far as cheating or engaging in activities that is against the casino policies. Boom!...casino team ask for verification....boom! you were banned for breaking the casino terms and condition(probably multi accounting) without showing any proof can be annoyin atimes.

[OcTradism]

This has been one of the reason why we keep seeing many casino users coming to the forum to complain about how they were treated unfair and banned for no reason after completing KYC verification.
Many users might think that the complete KYC verification is to ensure that the identity of the players are known so they do go as far as cheating or engaging in activities that is against the casino policies. Boom!...casino team ask for verification....boom! you were banned for breaking the casino terms and condition(probably multi accounting) without showing any proof can be annoyin atimes.

Casinos have enough evidence of user violations against their business' ToS but they have to be careful when collecting proofs before banning a user or refuse a banned user'a ban appeal. Asking for KYC is like an extra proof that casino wants to have before making their final decision, and I think it is a possible reason they ask KYC.

Users who violated ToS, did not know that they can not beat a casino after their cheating activities were detected and collected by the casino. Whatever thing they do next will not help them proving that they have never broken any rules there.

They can complain why a casino intended to ban my account but still want me doing KYC and eventually, it's a ban too. The casino has terms in ToS about KYC and they can ask KYC any time.

[hero_the_bossman]

Casinos have enough evidence of user violations against their business' ToS but they have to be careful when collecting proofs before banning a user or refuse a banned user'a ban appeal. Asking for KYC is like an extra proof that casino wants to have before making their final decision, and I think it is a possible reason they ask KYC.

Users who violated ToS, did not know that they can not beat a casino after their cheating activities were detected and collected by the casino. Whatever thing they do next will not help them proving that they have never broken any rules there.

They can complain why a casino intended to ban my account but still want me doing KYC and eventually, it's a ban too. The casino has terms in ToS about KYC and they can ask KYC any time.

If such users want justice, they can take such cases to the third-party trusted platforms like Casino-Guru or Askgamblers, there everybody will look at the proof of each party and the decision will be taken.

[Wakate]

This has been one of the reason why we keep seeing many casino users coming to the forum to complain about how they were treated unfair and banned for no reason after completing KYC verification.
Many users might think that the complete KYC verification is to ensure that the identity of the players are known so they do go as far as cheating or engaging in activities that is against the casino policies. Boom!...casino team ask for verification....boom! you were banned for breaking the casino terms and condition(probably multi accounting) without showing any proof can be annoyin atimes.

Casinos have enough evidence of user violations against their business' ToS but they have to be careful when collecting proofs before banning a user or refuse a banned user'a ban appeal. Asking for KYC is like an extra proof that casino wants to have before making their final decision, and I think it is a possible reason they ask KYC.

Users who violated ToS, did not know that they can not beat a casino after their cheating activities were detected and collected by the casino. Whatever thing they do next will not help them proving that they have never broken any rules there.

They can complain why a casino intended to ban my account but still want me doing KYC and eventually, it's a ban too. The casino has terms in ToS about KYC and they can ask KYC any time.

I know casinos have the power to ban a player when the compromised their rules but sometime it is done in an unlawful manner without giving a second chance. I know being ignorant is not a leverage to pardon a player but some casinos are known to ban players especially when whey have huge amount of funds in their accounts.

If many of these casinos are brought to book for their misappropriation and attacking players closing their accounts, the bad casinos would have to leave or turn a good leaf without much hesitation. The government and casino regulators need to act on sceneries like this so players don't keep complaining about bad casinos that like stealing from their customers.

[slapper]

You could complete KYC and still get ban by some casinos. This is just too complex to figure out and most time I don't like it when a casino try to detect multiple accounts only through AP address which I know can always look the same if we must judge from that.
Casinos have different tools they can use to detect and suspect multiple accounts on their casinos and I don't opt in to the use of IP address. That is an old pattern that is not so effective especially in a school environment where students connect to general WiFi to complete assignments and do other things.

IP address is the most solid proof for multiple account connections since we are on the internet which means there’s no other way to identify our identification. KYC should be one of the solution but we know that it can be faked through services that offer KYC verification.

IP connection and device use is the most common evidence casino use to detect multiple account. You will never have an issue to multiple account if you play fairly without using any tools that will lead you to use same IP address to other players on that specific casino.

Anti-fraud IP tracking and device fingerprints help, but it is never as airtight as you might think. VPNs make the entire "IP equals identity" claim a complete mess cause you are pooling hundreds or thousands of users into the identical online mask. Add in mobile carriers or ISPs that recycle IP addresses, and suddenly two unrelated gamblers can look like one. I understand that it is a rare coincident yet in less than one percent, it can occur

Casinos are not ignorant of this, of course, so they do not depend only on IP. It must be layered: fingerprints of web browsers, identification of devices, overlaps in payment methods, behavioral patterns (betting patterns, log-in patterns). Next we have suspicion brought about by correlation. Eventually their liability is greater than what you feel convenient

[Lida93]

You could complete KYC and still get ban by some casinos. This is just too complex to figure out and most time I don't like it when a casino try to detect multiple accounts only through AP address which I know can always look the same if we must judge from that.
Casinos have different tools they can use to detect and suspect multiple accounts on their casinos and I don't opt in to the use of IP address. That is an old pattern that is not so effective especially in a school environment where students connect to general WiFi to complete assignments and do other things.

I also don't buy the IP address fashion used by online casinos in flagging customers accounts on alleged multiple accounts default. There are customers that have being victimized innocently through that's assessment. I think using other tools into finding a multiple accounts situation by a customer can really be helpful in solving the problem of casinos wrongly banning customers accounts based on IP address suspicion. 

[Wakate]

You could complete KYC and still get ban by some casinos. This is just too complex to figure out and most time I don't like it when a casino try to detect multiple accounts only through AP address which I know can always look the same if we must judge from that.
Casinos have different tools they can use to detect and suspect multiple accounts on their casinos and I don't opt in to the use of IP address. That is an old pattern that is not so effective especially in a school environment where students connect to general WiFi to complete assignments and do other things.

I also don't buy the IP address fashion used by online casinos in flagging customers accounts on alleged multiple accounts default. There are customers that have being victimized innocently through that's assessment. I think using other tools into finding a multiple accounts situation by a customer can really be helpful in solving the problem of casinos wrongly banning customers accounts based on IP address suspicion.  

IP address is not a strong proof to assert that a user has some many accounts on a casino. This assumption might not be true and sometimes I laugh a lot when I hear that casinos are accusing people of having multiple accounts which lead to ban or seizure of the users funds.

There should be other ways to know if a user actually owns multiple accounts and IP address should not been seen as solid reason. There are people that like using free WiFi in the mall, hospital, schools and if there has been someone that has been using same IP address to gamble on a casino, there shouldn't be need to judge from that angle in regard to IP address.

[God Of Thunder]

This has been one of the reason why we keep seeing many casino users coming to the forum to complain about how they were treated unfair and banned for no reason after completing KYC verification.
Many users might think that the complete KYC verification is to ensure that the identity of the players are known so they do go as far as cheating or engaging in activities that is against the casino policies. Boom!...casino team ask for verification....boom! you were banned for breaking the casino terms and condition(probably multi accounting) without showing any proof can be annoyin atimes.

Yep. People think since the casinos are asking for a KYC, probably they will release my withdrawal once I complete the KYC. This is not always true. Sometimes the casino ask for KYC because they already found the rules violation and they can ban the user account without even asking for the KYC, yet they ask for a KYC because it would help them in the future. The same player won't be able to complete the KYC again in the future for another account. Also, sometimes the KYC information reveals a lot of things about a player. Sometimes the player might be from a restricted region, or probably completed the KYC before.

[OcTradism]

I know casinos have the power to ban a player when the compromised their rules but sometime it is done in an unlawful manner without giving a second chance. I know being ignorant is not a leverage to pardon a player but some casinos are known to ban players especially when whey have huge amount of funds in their accounts.

You know that most accounts that break a casino's rules do it many times and maybe with different accounts. A company does not arbitrarily ban an account as it possibly affects their business from income to reputation so if a decision is made, it must have reasons behind.

Assuming that if a company gives a second chance to an account - that known as breaking ToS many times by many accounts - what will you expect that person will respect that company and will not break their ToS again?

It's almost unlikely that person will respect and value the given second chance but will more likely to repeat what he did in the past while the company might suffer some extra exploitation and loss, so second chance is not good for their business.

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I also don't buy the IP address fashion used by online casinos in flagging customers accounts on alleged multiple accounts default. There are customers that have being victimized innocently through that's assessment. I think using other tools into finding a multiple accounts situation by a customer can really be helpful in solving the problem of casinos wrongly banning customers accounts based on IP address suspicion. 

Usually, there are IP addresses that are dynamic and that's why some other users could also use that IP address. While they can check it geographically if it's under the same user but I also doubt that most of the cases are genuine with their accusation. Because if that user is aware of that rule in most casinos, he won't put himself into that situation. Not unless, a user has the intention to cheat on the system and do multiple accounts due to the giveaways that they're doing which is the common reason why a user do that.

[Wakate]

I know casinos have the power to ban a player when the compromised their rules but sometime it is done in an unlawful manner without giving a second chance. I know being ignorant is not a leverage to pardon a player but some casinos are known to ban players especially when whey have huge amount of funds in their accounts.

You know that most accounts that break a casino's rules do it many times and maybe with different accounts. A company does not arbitrarily ban an account as it possibly affects their business from income to reputation so if a decision is made, it must have reasons behind.

Assuming that if a company gives a second chance to an account - that known as breaking ToS many times by many accounts - what will you expect that person will respect that company and will not break their ToS again?

It's almost unlikely that person will respect and value the given second chance but will more likely to repeat what he did in the past while the company might suffer some extra exploitation and loss, so second chance is not good for their business.

The problem most times come from the casino knowing and suspecting a army of alts due to same IP address but would not probe them but allow them to keep using the platform by making deposits and gambling without any problem. The problem arises when those accounts are participating in free spins and referrals using the medium to suck the casino and deprive other players from benefiting from the reward that are budgeted for players.

Sometimes these accounts go as far as making different withdrawals from their winnings without problem until they either deposit big fund or the casino decided to limit them maybe due to the amount of profits they have made from the casino.