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[BigBos]

Also, we cannot deny that the wagering requirment is also a part of business technique used by the casinos. They just make a little more money with that.

I agree, it's part of the business and they won't just give bonuses or giveaway without having to follow some wagers. That's why others that don't wager that much won't chase for those anymore and they're good to have fun and gamble just as however they want to. And as GoT said, it's a choice for those who can be eligible with that and if they can fulfill the requirements. If it's not likeable and the requirements are discouraging to be taken, we're all free not to take them but I'm sure that if the requirements are easy to fill in, we'd take them.

Everything a casino does is part of their business strategy, whether it's direct promotions or offering bonuses to users. This is something we should already be aware of.

This way, they can attract a large number of customers and retain them. While not everyone is after bonuses, the bonuses they offer will keep customers happy. This is actually an effective way to retain users; users seek out casinos that make them feel comfortable. That's why casinos that can provide all of these things usually have many loyal users.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Also, we cannot deny that the wagering requirment is also a part of business technique used by the casinos. They just make a little more money with that.

I agree, it's part of the business and they won't just give bonuses or giveaway without having to follow some wagers. That's why others that don't wager that much won't chase for those anymore and they're good to have fun and gamble just as however they want to. And as GoT said, it's a choice for those who can be eligible with that and if they can fulfill the requirements. If it's not likeable and the requirements are discouraging to be taken, we're all free not to take them but I'm sure that if the requirements are easy to fill in, we'd take them.

Everything a casino does is part of their business strategy, whether it's direct promotions or offering bonuses to users. This is something we should already be aware of.

This way, they can attract a large number of customers and retain them. While not everyone is after bonuses, the bonuses they offer will keep customers happy. This is actually an effective way to retain users; users seek out casinos that make them feel comfortable. That's why casinos that can provide all of these things usually have many loyal users.

In as much as I myself isn't a type of gambler that can be retained by a bonus, I still have to say that you are absolutely right, bonuses are an important major through which all casinos attract and retain customers, I agree with this because I do have some gambling friends who never have ever agreed to leave the casino they are playing on (I won't mention the name of the casino) and join me on stake, and their reason being that they are very comfortable with the bonuses and features of the other casino 😁

But it's quite understandable though, some gamblers are not always lucky to win, so they see and treat the bonus as a good enough compensation, possibly.

[Kavelj22]

Also, we cannot deny that the wagering requirment is also a part of business technique used by the casinos. They just make a little more money with that.

I agree, it's part of the business and they won't just give bonuses or giveaway without having to follow some wagers. That's why others that don't wager that much won't chase for those anymore and they're good to have fun and gamble just as however they want to. And as GoT said, it's a choice for those who can be eligible with that and if they can fulfill the requirements. If it's not likeable and the requirements are discouraging to be taken, we're all free not to take them but I'm sure that if the requirements are easy to fill in, we'd take them.

Everything a casino does is part of their business strategy, whether it's direct promotions or offering bonuses to users. This is something we should already be aware of.

As for wagering requirement, i think it's a necessity for some good reasons. The users can't withdraw the amount he has just deposited without playing so that the casino doesn't turn to be a mixer to hide transaction traceability. And also the same thing applies with bonuses, there should be a minimum wager requirement for the reason not to abuse the bonus. Without the wager requirement the casino can be used as a mixer and can't lunch bonus programs which is a part of its marketing strategy to attract more users.

[BigBos]

Everything a casino does is part of their business strategy, whether it's direct promotions or offering bonuses to users. This is something we should already be aware of.

This way, they can attract a large number of customers and retain them. While not everyone is after bonuses, the bonuses they offer will keep customers happy. This is actually an effective way to retain users; users seek out casinos that make them feel comfortable. That's why casinos that can provide all of these things usually have many loyal users.

In as much as I myself isn't a type of gambler that can be retained by a bonus, I still have to say that you are absolutely right, bonuses are an important major through which all casinos attract and retain customers, I agree with this because I do have some gambling friends who never have ever agreed to leave the casino they are playing on (I won't mention the name of the casino) and join me on stake, and their reason being that they are very comfortable with the bonuses and features of the other casino 😁

But it's quite understandable though, some gamblers are not always lucky to win, so they see and treat the bonus as a good enough compensation, possibly.

Yes, maybe you're one of those people who doesn't focus on bonuses. I'm the same way. I've even missed out on claiming bonuses several times (some casinos require users to claim them). It's not that I don't want to, because who doesn't want a bonus? But I usually forget to claim them.

I personally judge a casino by their customer service. When we make a complaint, they handle it quickly, and more importantly, they process our withdrawals quickly. I'm sure you feel the same way, because waiting for a withdrawal to be credited can be quite tedious.

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[bhadz]

I agree, it's part of the business and they won't just give bonuses or giveaway without having to follow some wagers. That's why others that don't wager that much won't chase for those anymore and they're good to have fun and gamble just as however they want to. And as GoT said, it's a choice for those who can be eligible with that and if they can fulfill the requirements. If it's not likeable and the requirements are discouraging to be taken, we're all free not to take them but I'm sure that if the requirements are easy to fill in, we'd take them.

Everything a casino does is part of their business strategy, whether it's direct promotions or offering bonuses to users. This is something we should already be aware of.

This way, they can attract a large number of customers and retain them. While not everyone is after bonuses, the bonuses they offer will keep customers happy. This is actually an effective way to retain users;

Yes, it is an incentive to make their customers happy and stay to them.

users seek out casinos that make them feel comfortable. That's why casinos that can provide all of these things usually have many loyal users.

You said it right, that's why they stay to where they feel they're belonged and prioritized. It's not only about the games and the bonuses given to them but it's making them feel prioritized after all and those benefits that they receive is a part of it and makes them stay and loyal.

[God Of Thunder]

As for wagering requirement, i think it's a necessity for some good reasons. The users can't withdraw the amount he has just deposited without playing so that the casino doesn't turn to be a mixer to hide transaction traceability. And also the same thing applies with bonuses, there should be a minimum wager requirement for the reason not to abuse the bonus. Without the wager requirement the casino can be used as a mixer and can't lunch bonus programs which is a part of its marketing strategy to attract more users.

For the bonus wagering requirement, the most crucial part is that the players will abuse the bonus system, and the casino will go bankrupt without having any wagering requirement. Imagine a casino offering a bonus with no wagering requirements. I am sure the abusers will create multiple accounts to claim the wagering-free bonuses and try to withdraw them instantly on different addresses. They will use VPN and various devices so the casino cannot track them. The casino bonus without any wagering requirement doesn't fit at all. The casino will be forced to change the terms today or tomorrow.

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[Kavelj22]

For the bonus wagering requirement, the most crucial part is that the players will abuse the bonus system, and the casino will go bankrupt without having any wagering requirement. Imagine a casino offering a bonus with no wagering requirements. I am sure the abusers will create multiple accounts to claim the wagering-free bonuses and try to withdraw them instantly on different addresses. They will use VPN and various devices so the casino cannot track them. The casino bonus without any wagering requirement doesn't fit at all. The casino will be forced to change the terms today or tomorrow.

Not only about bonus abuse, but also for deposits that should have a wagering requirement so the casino doesn't turn to be a mixer. Meanwhile, I think 100% wagering requirement is quite enough. There are no needs to rise the wagering requirement and make it more difficult for users to use their winning. They will fastly run away either they succeed to withdraw or lost everything.

[God Of Thunder]

Not only about bonus abuse, but also for deposits that should have a wagering requirement so the casino doesn't turn to be a mixer. Meanwhile, I think 100% wagering requirement is quite enough. There are no needs to rise the wagering requirement and make it more difficult for users to use their winning. They will fastly run away either they succeed to withdraw or lost everything.

Yeah, I agree with that. That is why the casino implemented a 1x wagering requirement on deposits, and the casino claims it is done to prevent money laundering, which is the same reason mixers do it. Yes, you are correct about that. 1x wagering requirement is enough already to prevent money laundering. I see more and more casinos are adopting this method to avoid money laundering. A 1x wagering requirement applies only to deposits. As for the deposit bonuses, casinos imply 25x to 45x wagering requirements depending on the bonus type.

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[The Cryptovator]

Yeah, I agree with that. That is why the casino implemented a 1x wagering requirement on deposits, and the casino claims it is done to prevent money laundering, which is the same reason mixers do it. Yes, you are correct about that. 1x wagering requirement is enough already to prevent money laundering. I see more and more casinos are adopting this method to avoid money laundering. A 1x wagering requirement applies only to deposits. As for the deposit bonuses, casinos imply 25x to 45x wagering requirements depending on the bonus type.

It's reasonable to ask for wagering requirements for the deposit amount. Otherwise it would encourage money laundering; 1x is a very simple matter. But a few casinos ask for a higher wager for the deposit amount, which seems not reasonable to me. To prevent money laundering, gambling with initial funds is enough. Doesn't necessarily wager high; it's just a hassle for gamblers, and they won't gamble accordingly.

For the deposit bonuses, they would have the right to ask for a high wager, but not out of common sense. Like asking for hundreds x wager would just be a joke. Even a 25x wager for the deposit bonuses seems pretty high to me, but it's acceptable. Though I am not very familiar with gambling wagers, I understand the basic things. Casino should imply something that would be accepted by their community and gamblers.

[Kavelj22]

Not only about bonus abuse, but also for deposits that should have a wagering requirement so the casino doesn't turn to be a mixer. Meanwhile, I think 100% wagering requirement is quite enough. There are no needs to rise the wagering requirement and make it more difficult for users to use their winning. They will fastly run away either they succeed to withdraw or lost everything.

Yeah, I agree with that. That is why the casino implemented a 1x wagering requirement on deposits, and the casino claims it is done to prevent money laundering, which is the same reason mixers do it. Yes, you are correct about that. 1x wagering requirement is enough already to prevent money laundering. I see more and more casinos are adopting this method to avoid money laundering. A 1x wagering requirement applies only to deposits. As for the deposit bonuses, casinos imply 25x to 45x wagering requirements depending on the bonus type.

Even it seems to be acceptable, but 25X and 45X sounds exaggerated to me whatever the type of the bonus is. If compared to other wagering requirements in other casinos, casinos enforce this so high requirement would lose a large user base because of this if to consider how many users join the casino attracted by the bonus. Casinos are free to set the wagering requirement they see right, but i think it should be as much raisonable as possible.

[nemesis_incarnate]

Not only about bonus abuse, but also for deposits that should have a wagering requirement so the casino doesn't turn to be a mixer. Meanwhile, I think 100% wagering requirement is quite enough. There are no needs to rise the wagering requirement and make it more difficult for users to use their winning. They will fastly run away either they succeed to withdraw or lost everything.

Yeah, I agree with that. That is why the casino implemented a 1x wagering requirement on deposits, and the casino claims it is done to prevent money laundering, which is the same reason mixers do it. Yes, you are correct about that. 1x wagering requirement is enough already to prevent money laundering. I see more and more casinos are adopting this method to avoid money laundering. A 1x wagering requirement applies only to deposits. As for the deposit bonuses, casinos imply 25x to 45x wagering requirements depending on the bonus type.

Even it seems to be acceptable, but 25X and 45X sounds exaggerated to me whatever the type of the bonus is. If compared to other wagering requirements in other casinos, casinos enforce this so high requirement would lose a large user base because of this if to consider how many users join the casino attracted by the bonus. Casinos are free to set the wagering requirement they see right, but i think it should be as much raisonable as possible.

Such bonuses are no wonders for me, the x-es, I mean.

But truly, they become bigger and bigger by the years

[maknyos]

Even it seems to be acceptable, but 25X and 45X sounds exaggerated to me whatever the type of the bonus is. If compared to other wagering requirements in other casinos, casinos enforce this so high requirement would lose a large user base because of this if to consider how many users join the casino attracted by the bonus. Casinos are free to set the wagering requirement they see right, but i think it should be as much raisonable as possible.

The wagering requirement is at least 1x to prevent violations such as money laundering, but for bonuses they usually apply higher requirements. It is very reasonable for them to apply higher requirements, but we are happier when the requirements are still achievable, such as 5x or 10x for example.

However, that is just our preference, as the casino itself has the right to determine the requirements. However, they must also consider the risk of losing users if they set high requirements, as you mentioned.

[God Of Thunder]

Even it seems to be acceptable, but 25X and 45X sounds exaggerated to me whatever the type of the bonus is. If compared to other wagering requirements in other casinos, casinos enforce this so high requirement would lose a large user base because of this if to consider how many users join the casino attracted by the bonus. Casinos are free to set the wagering requirement they see right, but i think it should be as much raisonable as possible.

I also dislike high wagering requirements. However, this is now the standard at casinos. They have a higher wagering requirement for the bonuses, which can be as high to 45x. Of course, the casinos do not want to give free money to players. The players cannot complete the wagering requirement most of the time either. I think the reasonable wagering requirement would be below 20 times the deposit amount. However, it is the casino that sets the wagering requirement, actually. If one popular casino decreases its wagering requirement, then other casinos may follow suit. However, they currently follow the standard, and the ratio is typically 25x to 45x.

[SamReomo]

The casino bonus without any wagering requirement doesn't fit at all. The casino will be forced to change the terms today or tomorrow.

When it comes to bonus then it's necessary for a casinos to set some type of wagering requirement to be safe from the scammers who often create multi accounts to trick the casino systems.

Most casinos allow VPN these days because the users of casinos often use VPN's and when the casinos offer bonus withdrawal without any wagering requirements then casinos won't be able to catch such scammers and thus they will start getting bankrupt overtime.

[Kavelj22]

The casino bonus without any wagering requirement doesn't fit at all. The casino will be forced to change the terms today or tomorrow.

When it comes to bonus then it's necessary for a casinos to set some type of wagering requirement to be safe from the scammers who often create multi accounts to trick the casino systems.

But in some cases, or let's say in the majority of cases when wagering applied to bonuses, it's almost impossible to make a profit out of it even by winning multiple times. Imagine how many times you have to win to achieve a 45X wagering requirement before being allowed to withdraw.

Most casinos allow VPN these days because the users of casinos often use VPN's and when the casinos offer bonus withdrawal without any wagering requirements then casinos won't be able to catch such scammers and thus they will start getting bankrupt overtime.

I didn't hear before about casinos allow using VPN. This shouldn't be a suitable option for both, the user experience and the casino system.
Can you mention some of the casinos you know allowing VPN use as you said "Most"?

[khaled0111]

But in some cases, or let's say in the majority of cases when wagering applied to bonuses, it's almost impossible to make a profit out of it even by winning multiple times. Imagine how many times you have to win to achieve a 45X wagering requirement before being allowed to withdraw.

I don’t know why some gamblers think those requirements are not fair! Maybe because they consider bonuses as free money that they can cash out just like that.
Well, that’s not what bonuses are meant for. Bonuses exist to encourage gamblers to test the casino or to keep them playing for longer and if they are lucky enough, they might end up with some profit that they can cash out.
Casinos offer bonuses in order to make more money, not to give money away, which is also the case for all other kinds of promotions, btw.

[Kavelj22]

But in some cases, or let's say in the majority of cases when wagering applied to bonuses, it's almost impossible to make a profit out of it even by winning multiple times. Imagine how many times you have to win to achieve a 45X wagering requirement before being allowed to withdraw.

I don’t know why some gamblers think those requirements are not fair! Maybe because they consider bonuses as free money that they can cash out just like that.
Well, that’s not what bonuses are meant for. Bonuses exist to encourage gamblers to test the casino or to keep them playing for longer and if they are lucky enough, they might end up with some profit that they can cash out.
Casinos offer bonuses in order to make more money, not to give money away, which is also the case for all other kinds of promotions, btw.

I don't know how others may think about its fairness. Personally i find 45X or 25X is so high that can be a total waste of time for anybody.
If the bonus system is made to incentivizing users to join the casino and deposit, the high wager requirement makes it somehow useless. I don't say that wagering requirement is useless, but the high requirement is. I think 10X might be reasonable enough, but not 45X.

I can't tell how many users in one casino have been lucky enough to make a profit out of bonus, but I am pretty sure they are so few to none compared to total number of users joining the casino and made a deposit to enjoy the bonus.