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[mikel_012]

I can see that the Bitcoin Lightning minimum deposit is still $7 and that is the same minimum as for the Bitcoin deposits

Is it not better to change so lightning minimum is lower because the fees are inexistent? I think in the way it is right now, if the bitcoin fees grow because of congestion, the minimum will increase for both lightning and bitcoin, and this will prevent others to use lightning for lower deposits when they need the most

[Achalugo BTC]

To be honest experience are different and they also differs from individuals, I might follow the instructions from demo to play without having a particular thing in mind as a return. But someone else could watch the demo and feels too comfortable with it as a result that they can start up with the real account whereby starting up with higher amounts they can afford to lose, where their hope is higher than expected with the mindset of having a particular winning amount from them but at last they lose entirely.

You are right, things like often make some people mindset to be fixed in what that doesn't seems real, instead of them to focus on what that matters and how to go about it, for them to be able to manage the risks involved and this is what makes most of them to think that if they always win in gambling, as far as they have master it with demo account and later they had to learn in hard way, which will either lead them into frustration or something that will be a disaster to their lives.

[SeriouslyGiveaway]

I can see that the Bitcoin Lightning minimum deposit is still $7 and that is the same minimum as for the Bitcoin deposits

Is it not better to change so lightning minimum is lower because the fees are inexistent? I think in the way it is right now, if the bitcoin fees grow because of congestion, the minimum will increase for both lightning and bitcoin, and this will prevent others to use lightning for lower deposits when they need the most

When Bitcoin mempools have become better recent months and Bitcoin transaction fees on chain become cheaper too, the need on using Bitcoin Lightning Network has decreased recent months. With cost of opening and closing a Bitcoin Lightning Network channel, it's kind of inconvenience and expensive extra cost that play as barriers against people who want to use the Lightning Network.

$7 is a small fund and I don't think a minimum deposit as $7 is something need to be changed. Like on exchanges, minimum trading is $10 already.

[Obim34]

$7 is a small fund and I don't think a minimum deposit as $7 is something need to be changed. Like on exchanges, minimum trading is $10 already.

This is companies choice, $7 isn't as small as $1 which other casinos offer for Bitcoin network, while others are higher too, once majority of customers are okay with what is set as minimum deposits, then no need to bother about changes, except reviews for the deposits to be reduced. I don't think Spinly charges for withdrawal, do they?

Spinly has a good reputation, gamblers will always prefer where their money is safe than worry about difference in minimum deposits.

[mikel_012]

When Bitcoin mempools have become better recent months and Bitcoin transaction fees on chain become cheaper too, the need on using Bitcoin Lightning Network has decreased recent months. With cost of opening and closing a Bitcoin Lightning Network channel, it's kind of inconvenience and expensive extra cost that play as barriers against people who want to use the Lightning Network.

$7 is a small fund and I don't think a minimum deposit as $7 is something need to be changed. Like on exchanges, minimum trading is $10 already.

But why use lightning in this case if it's the same minimum? I would only use lightning if the amount if low and I do not want to pay a fee that is fixed even for low amounts

You do not need to open and close channels for everyone making it expensive, and the minimum amount has nothing to do with this cost. Some exchanges charge extra fee for lightning because of the cost of having engineers to deal with the complexity but this is not what Spinly is doing here

[Livingleged]

That is true that is why anyone gambling should try at least use the real account to start up their gambling because they could start with demo and when they start with real account things might happen to be different while gambling because the algorithms may entirely serves a different purpose and not as the live account. This is worse for casino games, and yes you are actually having a separate clue about the game and even though it may sound the at least person would know how the game are functioning but the live account is entirely different.

You are actually making a lot of sense, player using demo mode in my opinion isn’t a gambler yet he’s probably just playing games and whiling away time. The experience of a demo account and real account are two different experience entirely, there is no way you get emotional when using the demo account because there nothing actually at stake. If you want to start gambling you should go fully into the real account and not waste your time on the demo mode and you may be lucky enough to in your first few trials.

You may be playing the demo and not care about taking higher risk just because you know it’s a demo, and if you later switch to the real account if you apply same strategy it my land you in a serious loss, demo can actually be a deceiver that why I always say don’t use demo go fully into the real stuff and discover you’re potential.

[SilverCryptoBullet]

You are actually making a lot of sense, player using demo mode in my opinion isn’t a gambler yet he’s probably just playing games and whiling away time. The experience of a demo account and real account are two different experience entirely, there is no way you get emotional when using the demo account because there nothing actually at stake. If you want to start gambling you should go fully into the real account and not waste your time on the demo mode and you may be lucky enough to in your first few trials.

It's not always accurate because with anything, there are always different people joining it and doing it with different purposes. With demo mode, there are non gamblers try to play games for fun, maybe just for getting entertainment. There are other playing games in demo mode to explore something new but they're not professional players. There are other people who test games in demo mode for not only getting experience, having fun but to find something that can help them winning in real mode.

These last type of people are professional gamblers who don't play for pure fun and happiness, but try to figure out ways of winning and taking money back to their home. With them, demo mode can be a very useful tool for achieving their purposes but succeed or not, who knows?

[Perfectbaby]

$7 is a small fund and I don't think a minimum deposit as $7 is something need to be changed. Like on exchanges, minimum trading is $10 already.

This is companies choice, $7 isn't as small as $1 which other casinos offer for Bitcoin network, while others are higher too, once majority of customers are okay with what is set as minimum deposits, then no need to bother about changes, except reviews for the deposits to be reduced. I don't think Spinly charges for withdrawal, do they?

Spinly has a good reputation, gamblers will always prefer where their money is safe than worry about difference in minimum deposits.

Minimal deposit of 7$ is not actually that higher but sometimes they should consider those with smaller amounts to gamble on btc let say 3$ minimal could be good for those who doesn’t have enough funds to gamble with.
Of course you are right and I can also flash back to Binance exchange as their minimal trading amount is 10$ same thing applicable to their withdrawal amount. But this also differs from network which you are using to make withdrawal.

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[Achalugo BTC]

It's not always accurate because with anything, there are always different people joining it and doing it with different purposes. With demo mode, there are non gamblers try to play games for fun, maybe just for getting entertainment. There are other playing games in demo mode to explore something new but they're not professional players. There are other people who test games in demo mode for not only getting experience, having fun but to find something that can help them winning in real mode.

These last type of people are professional gamblers who don't play for pure fun and happiness, but try to figure out ways of winning and taking money back to their home. With them, demo mode can be a very useful tool for achieving their purposes but succeed or not, who knows?

Even with demo account, I don't think there is any chance that will makes them to win when they are using real account because no matter how strategic they are or how good they may be in analysis game, there is every possibility that in gambling, one will have more losses than wins, then I don't see any purpose of using demo account to test or exploring, when they can't control or knows what will happen next in gambling.

[Livingleged]

Even with demo account, I don't think there is any chance that will makes them to win when they are using real account because no matter how strategic they are or how good they may be in analysis game, there is every possibility that in gambling, one will have more losses than wins, then I don't see any purpose of using demo account to test or exploring, when they can't control or knows what will happen next in gambling.

There is definitely  a chance  that you'll  win a lot of times using  the demo account  than the real account because  you approach  the two in a different  way. With the demo once is not too careful  because  there really  nothing  at stake and you tend to record  high winning  which  is not so in the real  account except  if you're a reckless  gambler. But when playing  in the real  account  you get to be more  real and want to take only risk  that won't  bother  you even if the result  don't favor  you at the end of the game, that's limiting  your chances  of winning big.
It's not like I love the idea of playing  with the demo or something, I am just stating  it out that they are totally  different  games  and you can't use demo to practice  for real account  because  they are literally  not the same.

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[Achalugo BTC]

Even with demo account, I don't think there is any chance that will makes them to win when they are using real account because no matter how strategic they are or how good they may be in analysis game, there is every possibility that in gambling, one will have more losses than wins, then I don't see any purpose of using demo account to test or exploring, when they can't control or knows what will happen next in gambling.

There is definitely  a chance  that you'll  win a lot of times using  the demo account  than the real account because  you approach  the two in a different  way. With the demo once is not too careful  because  there really  nothing  at stake and you tend to record  high winning  which  is not so in the real  account except  if you're a reckless  gambler. But when playing  in the real  account  you get to be more  real and want to take only risk  that won't  bother  you even if the result  don't favor  you at the end of the game, that's limiting  your chances  of winning big.
It's not like I love the idea of playing  with the demo or something, I am just stating  it out that they are totally  different  games  and you can't use demo to practice  for real account  because  they are literally  not the same.

There is no time I said that demo account can be used to practice discipline when dealing with gambling, except one doesn't want to gamble with real account. I was saying that no matter how one uses demo account, their reaction can never be compared to the way they will react when using real account. But, having that consciousness that being charge of their emotions its important for them to exhibit, even though they feel they can understand the game through the use of demo account, as controlling their emotions will help them to stay focused and responsible when gambling and protect their bankroll as well.

[mikel_012]

Even with demo account, I don't think there is any chance that will makes them to win when they are using real account because no matter how strategic they are or how good they may be in analysis game, there is every possibility that in gambling, one will have more losses than wins, then I don't see any purpose of using demo account to test or exploring, when they can't control or knows what will happen next in gambling.

There is definitely  a chance  that you'll  win a lot of times using  the demo account  than the real account because  you approach  the two in a different  way. With the demo once is not too careful  because  there really  nothing  at stake and you tend to record  high winning  which  is not so in the real  account except  if you're a reckless  gambler. But when playing  in the real  account  you get to be more  real and want to take only risk  that won't  bother  you even if the result  don't favor  you at the end of the game, that's limiting  your chances  of winning big.
It's not like I love the idea of playing  with the demo or something, I am just stating  it out that they are totally  different  games  and you can't use demo to practice  for real account  because  they are literally  not the same.

There is no time I said that demo account can be used to practice discipline when dealing with gambling, except one doesn't want to gamble with real account. I was saying that no matter how one uses demo account, their reaction can never be compared to the way they will react when using real account. But, having that consciousness that being charge of their emotions its important for them to exhibit, even though they feel they can understand the game through the use of demo account, as controlling their emotions will help them to stay focused and responsible when gambling and protect their bankroll as well.

Maybe you should create a thread in Gambling Discussion to talk about demo accounts. I stopped counting after I saw 4 pages of you all talking about the same demo accounts in the Spinly thread

But when I asked about the minimum deposit of lightning in Spinly in the Spinly thread, I was told to check the website like I was doing a bad thing to post here asking a question about the casino

Crazy!

[Perfectbaby]

Even with demo account, I don't think there is any chance that will makes them to win when they are using real account because no matter how strategic they are or how good they may be in analysis game, there is every possibility that in gambling, one will have more losses than wins, then I don't see any purpose of using demo account to test or exploring, when they can't control or knows what will happen next in gambling.

There is definitely  a chance  that you'll  win a lot of times using  the demo account  than the real account because  you approach  the two in a different  way. With the demo once is not too careful  because  there really  nothing  at stake and you tend to record  high winning  which  is not so in the real  account except  if you're a reckless  gambler. But when playing  in the real  account  you get to be more  real and want to take only risk  that won't  bother  you even if the result  don't favor  you at the end of the game, that's limiting  your chances  of winning big.
It's not like I love the idea of playing  with the demo or something, I am just stating  it out that they are totally  different  games  and you can't use demo to practice  for real account  because  they are literally  not the same.

I seem not to know the reason why people are that having that strong belief in demo since they knows that it’s mostly functions alike but, they won’t know that the market doesn’t respect those who learned from using demo or not. In live market you equally face the right market forces that is not even function that way while on demo. To me demo is a bit different from the real live market, where whales and professional trading are handling the market differently.
I want to encourage those who are learning gambling to start with real account maybe after they have checked from demo to get the insight about how the game reacts over the time differently from the real live market.

[virasog]

I seem not to know the reason why people are that having that strong belief in demo since they knows that it’s mostly functions alike but, they won’t know that the market doesn’t respect those who learned from using demo or not. In live market you equally face the right market forces that is not even function that way while on demo. To me demo is a bit different from the real live market, where whales and professional trading are handling the market differently.
I want to encourage those who are learning gambling to start with real account maybe after they have checked from demo to get the insight about how the game reacts over the time differently from the real live market.

One thing is that I would like to know is that the house edge in demo gambling and real gambling is similar ? I highly doubt that because in demo gambling you tend to win more while in real gambling the wins aren't that easy. There is some difference in demo and real gambling and that's why people who come to real gambling through demo, tends to be more frustrated or disappointed because they aren't getting that winning ratio's that they experienced in demo gambling.

[Perfectbaby]

I seem not to know the reason why people are that having that strong belief in demo since they knows that it’s mostly functions alike but, they won’t know that the market doesn’t respect those who learned from using demo or not. In live market you equally face the right market forces that is not even function that way while on demo. To me demo is a bit different from the real live market, where whales and professional trading are handling the market differently.
I want to encourage those who are learning gambling to start with real account maybe after they have checked from demo to get the insight about how the game reacts over the time differently from the real live market.

One thing is that I would like to know is that the house edge in demo gambling and real gambling is similar ? I highly doubt that because in demo gambling you tend to win more while in real gambling the wins aren't that easy. There is some difference in demo and real gambling and that's why people who come to real gambling through demo, tends to be more frustrated or disappointed because they aren't getting that winning ratio's that they experienced in demo gambling.

Maybe you didn’t comprehend what I meant on my post earlier.  Demo and real live account do have same interface same look and everything but if you have never gets involved in live market you won’t understand that they are not same. The thing is that start up your gambling journey with demo usually kills the performance of the person who are gambling because they had this demo orientation and feeling the market would always be the same without them knowing that there is a big difference in both market, but they usually looks alike. I do encourage people to gamble with small amounts even if they are practicing with demo the will quickly understand that both market are not the same.

[Achalugo BTC]

Maybe you should create a thread in Gambling Discussion to talk about demo accounts. I stopped counting after I saw 4 pages of you all talking about the same demo accounts in the Spinly thread

But when I asked about the minimum deposit of lightning in Spinly in the Spinly thread, I was told to check the website like I was doing a bad thing to post here asking a question about the casino

Crazy!

Sorry who are you? Forum police? Sorry if it offended you that people here are discussing what mostly interests them and failed to pay close and special attention to you own low effort question.
How is it wrong or a bad thing if someone tells you or gives you a direct link to getting the answers to your questions, or did you in anyway pay anyone here to do research and all the heavy lifting for you? Get a life mate, everyone’s here for the same reason.

Thinking about it now, the irony is just hilarious. You complain about people talking a lot about demo accounts, and yet you cry because someone asked you to check the website for a minimum deposit question that literally wouldn’t even take you up to 10 seconds to find.

[BlackBoss_]

Sorry who are you? Forum police? Sorry if it offended you that people here are discussing what mostly interests them and failed to pay close and special attention to you own low effort question.

That user does not need to be a forum police or moderator to give that suggestion.
Do you think you're too arrogant by writing this post?

Seriously, I see the suggestion is valid. Discussion about demo account and bet with it is good but if it continues forever, will it be good?
Like in mega thread such as Buy buy buy sell sell sell and DCA Bitcoin, yeah, it will continue without anything new. People keep writing for post counts and merit fishing.

I will not derail more from Spinly thread, and will not reply to your response after all.

[Achalugo BTC]

That user does not need to be a forum police or moderator to give that suggestion.
Do you think you're too arrogant by writing this post?

Seriously, I see the suggestion is valid. Discussion about demo account and bet with it is good but if it continues forever, will it be good?
Like in mega thread such as Buy buy buy sell sell sell and DCA Bitcoin, yeah, it will continue without anything new. People keep writing for post counts and merit fishing.

I will not derail more from Spinly thread, and will not reply to your response after all.

I didn’t mean to sound arrogant to the user, my response was based on the user’s choice of words. Good points or not, your delivery matters a lot, you can’t make a good point with a nasty delivery and expect people to just clap for you, there are other polite ways to deliver those points.