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There is a popular saying which goes this way ''The goal of every business man is to maximize profit'' and this saying is the central philosophy of so many trader. Let's be honest, most people get into trading because they want to make profit. If trading lacks monetary value am very sure that most crypto traders would have ceased being a trader a long time ago. Overtime time most of us am sure including myself at some point discovered that trading goes beyond just knowing when to buy and sell. This then bring me to the overlooked key to long term trading success which is ''Risk Management'' I know to some people this concept may not be as flashy as doubling your wins or make huge profit, but the truth and reality of the matter is that if your loses cannot be properly managed, you as a trader may not even last long to enjoy your wins. Things like setting stop loss, not putting all of your money in one single trade no matter how sure you are, understanding your risk to reward ratio, knowing when to sit out a trade , all of this makes a huge difference. Its not about being scared but being smart. Don't get me wrong friend as your know am still a newbie in this forum so it's not like am maybe condemning any trading style or trying to act like a professional. According to Phil Collins ''In learning you will teach and in teaching you will learn.'' So I believe that learning is two way both the teacher and even the learner learns. So I am even also learning At the end of it all the market is uncontrollable, and how you respond to market is what is what can be controlled and your ability to respond well to the market is what makes you more successful than others in the crypto/ forex space.
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May 31, 2025, 11:38:37 AM |
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For me, profit is the main motivation for most traders. It's not the only key to long-term success. The often overlooked but crucial factor is risk management (this is very important), without this, even the most skilled trader can lose everything. Managing losses wisely ensures you survive long enough to enjoy the gains.
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Things like setting stop loss, not putting all of your money in one single trade no matter how sure you are, understanding your risk to reward ratio, knowing when to sit out a trade , all of this makes a huge difference. Its not about being scared but being smart.
Use best and most powerful weapons in trading: stop loss order and stop limit order. Those orders can help you manage risk better and reduce loss on your trading capital. If you are ready to use those weapons, you will probably defend your initial trading capital better. It means a lot for a trader, without trading capital, you are done and have nothing to do with the market. One of the Best Weapons in TradingWhat is a Stop limit order?For me, profit is the main motivation for most traders. It's not the only key to long-term success. The often overlooked but crucial factor is risk management (this is very important), without this, even the most skilled trader can lose everything. Managing losses wisely ensures you survive long enough to enjoy the gains.
You can not have gains in long term if you can not manage risk and defend your initital capital well. You can get profit, even huge profit but if you can not defend it, you will lose it in future very easily and quickly.
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Things like setting stop loss, not putting all of your money in one single trade no matter how sure you are, understanding your risk to reward ratio, knowing when to sit out a trade , all of this makes a huge difference. Its not about being scared but being smart.
Use best and most powerful weapons in trading: stop loss order and stop limit order. Those orders can help you manage risk better and reduce loss on your trading capital. If you are ready to use those weapons, you will probably defend your initial trading capital better. It means a lot for a trader, without trading capital, you are done and have nothing to do with the market. One of the Best Weapons in TradingWhat is a Stop limit order?For me, profit is the main motivation for most traders. It's not the only key to long-term success. The often overlooked but crucial factor is risk management (this is very important), without this, even the most skilled trader can lose everything. Managing losses wisely ensures you survive long enough to enjoy the gains.
You can not have gains in long term if you can not manage risk and defend your initital capital well. You can get profit, even huge profit but if you can not defend it, you will lose it in future very easily and quickly. If you arent making use of stoploss then you are just that basically doing gambling and I have experienced it out when im still that trading on forex on which my balance had totally blown out because of having no stop loss. When you are still that a noob then you wont be that putting up much focus or having that consideration since the primary thing that comes up into your mind is on how you do make easy money with those trading ways or methods that you do make use. One of the most important or lets say the main factor that needs up to look for is about risks management on which setting out a stop loss is one of it. You can be able to control and minimize the risks when you are setting up these things accordingly. It is just that been too hard for you to control up your funds if you dont know on how to manage it accordingly on which knowing trading and dealing up with the market will be a wild one. This isnt a race but rather this one talks about on how you would be able to sustain out. You cant just that set your trade without any risks management or setting out those limitations. Learning up trading skills would be that taking up that long time on which means that patience will be test out and this is where you do need up to watch out and be careful because majority is that impatient when it comes into this aspect on which it turned out that once they do experience some hardship then they do quit up and same goes when they do experience up some loses and totally quits up and make up that conclusion that trading isnt for them. Becoming successful with trading is never been that a smooth sail ride on which you would be able to pass through tons of challenges.
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May 31, 2025, 05:40:29 PM |
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There is a popular saying which goes this way ''The goal of every business man is to maximize profit'' and this saying is the central philosophy of so many trader. Let's be honest, most people get into trading because they want to make profit. If trading lacks monetary value am very sure that most crypto traders would have ceased being a trader a long time ago. Overtime time most of us am sure including myself at some point discovered that trading goes beyond just knowing when to buy and sell. This then bring me to the overlooked key to long term trading success which is ''Risk Management'' I know to some people this concept may not be as flashy as doubling your wins or make huge profit, but the truth and reality of the matter is that if your loses cannot be properly managed, you as a trader may not even last long to enjoy your wins. Things like setting stop loss, not putting all of your money in one single trade no matter how sure you are, understanding your risk to reward ratio, knowing when to sit out a trade , all of this makes a huge difference. Its not about being scared but being smart. Don't get me wrong friend as your know am still a newbie in this forum so it's not like am maybe condemning any trading style or trying to act like a professional. According to Phil Collins ''In learning you will teach and in teaching you will learn.'' So I believe that learning is two way both the teacher and even the learner learns. So I am even also learning At the end of it all the market is uncontrollable, and how you respond to market is what is what can be controlled and your ability to respond well to the market is what makes you more successful than others in the crypto/ forex space.
just like someone recently posted, there is a chunk of gambling in trading crypto or forex. The major things needed are experience, understanding of the real market moving coins at different situation without exempting the political issues and trends pertaining trading. It can be very daunting trying to understand the specifics of the market. In all, you are not wrong with your points but its not always a perfect circle when we are talking about online trading skills. thereare some fundamentals that might distort trades unexpectedly. In a nutshell, always trade with the known skills that work for you while you keep understudying other strategies for full comprehension
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May 31, 2025, 05:49:02 PM |
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Oh yeah mate, who will go through all the rigorous headache of doing market analysis that comes with trading without having profits in mind, trading os not like gambling that some of us gamble to have fun, no trader will be trading for fun infacf there is no fun in trading.
So for sure trading is all for the profits and nothing else, although we witness some loses from trading but still we can take it away that the aim of the trader is to make the profits as much as possible.
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Risk management may sometimes be overlooked, but know in reality that trading that doesn’t practice risk management will never ever achieve the goal of success, and that is to gain massive profits. This isn’t just for trading but even in plain buying and hodling, risk management is always a must.
Meanwhile, there could be short-term successful traders but since they lack the efforts of putting risk management into their trades, that prevents them from gaining success for long term, which is long term trading is all about.
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For me, profit is the main motivation for most traders. It's not the only key to long-term success. The often overlooked but crucial factor is risk management (this is very important), without this, even the most skilled trader can lose everything. Managing losses wisely ensures you survive long enough to enjoy the gains.
Thank you for putting it rightly because the author almost mixed things up in a bit. From your reply, two things stand out which is profit and risk management as the key to long-term trading. While profit is the motivation for every trader to continue trading, risk management is easily overlooked and that hurt badly. So, to become a successful long-term trader, it is important to take risk management seriously so as to protect the capital and profits made on it. Without proper risk management, even profits will be lost together with the capital.
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At the end of it all the market is uncontrollable, and how you respond to market is what is what can be controlled and your ability to respond well to the market is what makes you more successful than others in the crypto/ forex space.
Although I agree with this point, it's easier said than done. How you can response to the market exactly if market just dumped so deep it doesn't give you chance to cut loss like what happened in recent trump's tariff war against china. There's only so much we can do, if market turns so bad and we lost so much money already then making up for it would be difficult. The key to long term trading success is still sustainability.
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Let's be honest, most people get into trading because they want to make profit.
Not most people, everybody gets into trading because of the lure of making profit. Anyone who says they're not into it for that sole reason isn't honest. This then bring me to the overlooked key to long term trading success which is ''Risk Management'' I know to some people this concept may not be as flashy as doubling your wins or make huge profit...
This is even the major part of trading. It deepens how we want to take our losses or profits as it defines our trading strategies. This is the point where R:R (Risk & Reward) before triggering trades comes in. As a trader, it's best to consider the lowest point of risk and highest point of reward for each trade taken. It's the same thing as Money Management. For me, I don't take any trade that will give me anything less than 1:3. If I lose, I lose X1. If I gain, I gain X3. It means it will take three losses to wipe off a single gain I make. Another thing to consider in risk management is lotsize in respect to trading funds. Don't over lotsize your trading funds to avoid panic trading. Take it slowly and gradually. The market will always be there. It's not "running" anywhere.
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For me, profit is the main motivation for most traders. It's not the only key to long-term success. The often overlooked but crucial factor is risk management (this is very important), without this, even the most skilled trader can lose everything. Managing losses wisely ensures you survive long enough to enjoy the gains.
This is just the truth sir, without staying alive in the market, their is no way you can continue navigating your way in the market, so in as much as we are trying to make money in the market, we shouldn't forget to protect our margin, and the best way for that is to observe proper risk management strategy by using stop loss when necessary or by trading with an amount you can afford to lose, so that if things doesn't go as planned, you wouldn't be bothered or be in a tight Conner when it goes against you. So what am trying to say is that I fully support what you and the op said in this thread, that without properly utilizing risk management strategy, their is no way a trader will stay long in the market on the longer run.
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Things like setting stop loss, not putting all of your money in one single trade no matter how sure you are, understanding your risk to reward ratio, knowing when to sit out a trade , all of this makes a huge difference. Its not about being scared but being smart. Don't get me wrong friend as your know am still a newbie in this forum so it's not like am maybe condemning any trading style or trying to act like a professional. According to Phil Collins ''In learning you will teach and in teaching you will learn.'' So I believe that learning is two way both the teacher and even the learner learns. So I am even also learning At the end of it all the market is uncontrollable, and how you respond to market is what is what can be controlled and your ability to respond well to the market is what makes you more successful than others in the crypto/ forex space.
You're absolutely right — risk management is key. But here’s something a bit controversial: Using stop-losses blindly often guarantees losses, especially in the crypto market. Let’s be real — we’re here to make profits, not just survive. And Bitcoin is notorious for chopping sideways for weeks or months, aka the “death-by-a-thousand-cuts” phase. In such environments, tight stop-losses often lead to repeated losses that drain your account faster than you expect. That’s why I believe the best protection is not always a stop-loss, but smart position sizing and money management. Here’s what I do: I only long BTC, never short it. My first entry is always without leverage, because Bitcoin can dip 70–80% — and I want to stay in the game. Once the trade goes in profit, I scale in using a pyramid: Every additional position is backed by a breakeven stop-loss from the previous profitable one. That way, the higher BTC goes, the higher my leverage, but my risk is zero. This method lets me ride trends safely — while protecting capital like a pro.
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For me, profit is the main motivation for most traders. It's not the only key to long-term success. The often overlooked but crucial factor is risk management (this is very important), without this, even the most skilled trader can lose everything. Managing losses wisely ensures you survive long enough to enjoy the gains.
Thank you for putting it rightly because the author almost mixed things up in a bit. From your reply, two things stand out which is profit and risk management as the key to long-term trading. While profit is the motivation for every trader to continue trading, risk management is easily overlooked and that hurt badly. So, to become a successful long-term trader, it is important to take risk management seriously so as to protect the capital and profits made on it. Without proper risk management, even profits will be lost together with the capital. I agree that profit will be the main motivation for traders. But we must know that make a profit will not be easy so we must have a better skill in trading so we can get the chance to buy low and sell high. Many people forget or too lazy to learn especially about risk management so they use the all-in method in trading because they think when the price is down and they buy with a lot of money, they will make a big profit. That could be done if the market really reverse and increase to the high price. But many times we see the market is down and instead make us profit, we just cut loss preventing the big lose. If we can use risk management, we will not trade using a big money but will always analyze before enter the market.
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First, from what you said about trading lacking monetary gains, it never would have been possible that trading will not be a source of income, trading is not for fun so it will definitely be a source of income. People are trading because they know it's a means to make money but only if you have the skill to do so, if it was not a means of income, then no body will do it. Next, risk management is really one important part of making profit from trading. The ability of one knowing how to set their risk to reward plan will determine how they can allow their profit to surpass their losses.
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We gotta be honest here - people arent getting into crypto trading to find some higher purpose. The reason is simple: money. Take away the chance to profit, and no one would mess with this stuff.
And managing risk? Look, thats not a rocket science. But sometimes, even the "smart" ones get wrecked.
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Things like setting stop loss, not putting all of your money in one single trade no matter how sure you are, understanding your risk to reward ratio, knowing when to sit out a trade , all of this makes a huge difference.
You did not add knowing when to enter and how to enter a trade as well. Many new traders will still struggle with entry. From the little I know about trading, I know that counts too. Traders who know sniper entry are usually good with making good use of trading opportunities that they see and making the most profit from it.
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For me, profit is the main motivation for most traders. It's not the only key to long-term success. The often overlooked but crucial factor is risk management (this is very important), without this, even the most skilled trader can lose everything. Managing losses wisely ensures you survive long enough to enjoy the gains.
Sometimes, due to the motivation of maximizing our profits as much as we can, we tend to forget exercising risk management and set some potential limits as a trader. I know these things are often overlooked, not realizing that success for long term, whether it’s simply investing or trading, cannot be completely realized if we are not serious on applying them to our lives. Success can be short term or long term. If we want it to last longer, at least risk control and management should be seen as essentials towards achieving success.
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You know what wallstreet people say, best traders are the dead traders.
It is no joke.
Statistically, the most successful traders are the ones that died 20 years ago and yet their assets kept going up.
The more you think about making trades, the more mistakes are you are also about to make. The moment you realize that, you’ll let it all go.
Have a basket of good financial assets and just forget about them. In 20 years, they’ll compound like a mf.
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At the end of it all the market is uncontrollable, and how you respond to market is what is what can be controlled and your ability to respond well to the market is what makes you more successful than others in the crypto/ forex space.
The results of our trading journey depend on how we make decisions in every market change. We just know that there is no perfect strategy in a volatile market. Even following the strategy of successful traders, we can't ensure that we will achieve the same results. Why? That may differ in the actual situation. What I think the best long-term strategy is is where we are about to enjoy trading. - We never complain -We accept losses. -contented with small profit. Trading against our will will never have a successful ending, but losses and frustration.
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...This then bring me to the overlooked key to long term trading success which is ''Risk Management'' I know to some people this concept may not be as flashy as doubling your wins or make huge profit, but the truth and reality of the matter is that if your loses cannot be properly managed, you as a trader may not even last long to enjoy your wins...
Every Beginner who loses money in trading sooner or later comes to study risk management, as this is the only strategy that allows you to reduce losses. But as we know, it's not enough to know, you also need to follow risk management implicitly, otherwise your knowledge will be useless.
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