Gig workers — employees or employers?

[kryptqnick]

I've been a part of gig economy for a few years in my life. A huge advantage is that it gives freedom: you decide when, where, and how much you work (depending also, of course, on the demand and your market value, so to speak). You feel independent, but you also have no security, and you have to be hyper-responsible to make it work.
To me, it is about being self-employed, and I'd still prefer something a little more stable than new places/clients all the time. A list of people/places, some kind of routine. That's how I did it, anyway. I don't think I would've been able to do it otherwise, do the full mode of gig economy, so to speak.
This way of life breaks the dichotomy between employers and employees. I felt like I was both, and it was fine by me. I stopped doing that only when my life circumstances changed a lot and I also got a meaningful and high-paying job to stick to.

[yhiaali3]

The answer to your question: Are temporary workers employees or employers? Of course, they are employers not employees. We can call them temporary employees because they perform temporary work, get paid and that's it.

As for which is better, temporary work or a job, the answer varies from person to person. Some people are better suited to freelancing, while others are only suited to jobs. This depends on the individual's situation and skills. However, for me, I prefer freelancing to a job.

in work of course it will vary depending on the profession of the person, and they are the ones who determine the income they get but all jobs will be easier to do depending on our choice, if we want a stable income and guarantees that will be obtained of course a permanent job will be chosen and I will continue in that direction to start it. rather than freelance but it all depends on us to choose of course for a better future.

I respect your opinion but I disagree slightly. From personal experience I can say that a permanent job is no better than freelancing. I was a permanent government employee for many years, then left my job and moved into freelancing.

It's true that a permanent job offers a fixed salary and some other benefits, but it restricts the worker to long hours and a small salary. Freelancing, on the other hand, gives you control over your time and the freedom to work whenever you want, according to your circumstances and earn a higher wage.
Perhaps in some developed countries that offer high salaries and shorter working hours a permanent job might be better.

[Lanatsa]

The answer to your question: Are temporary workers employees or employers? Of course, they are employers not employees. We can call them temporary employees because they perform temporary work, get paid and that's it.

As for which is better, temporary work or a job, the answer varies from person to person. Some people are better suited to freelancing, while others are only suited to jobs. This depends on the individual's situation and skills. However, for me, I prefer freelancing to a job.

in work of course it will vary depending on the profession of the person, and they are the ones who determine the income they get but all jobs will be easier to do depending on our choice, if we want a stable income and guarantees that will be obtained of course a permanent job will be chosen and I will continue in that direction to start it. rather than freelance but it all depends on us to choose of course for a better future.

I respect your opinion but I disagree slightly. From personal experience I can say that a permanent job is no better than freelancing. I was a permanent government employee for many years, then left my job and moved into freelancing.

It's true that a permanent job offers a fixed salary and some other benefits, but it restricts the worker to long hours and a small salary. Freelancing, on the other hand, gives you control over your time and the freedom to work whenever you want, according to your circumstances and earn a higher wage.
Perhaps in some developed countries that offer high salaries and shorter working hours a permanent job might be better.

That would be that still depending on certain factors because freelancing isnt for all. Why?

1. Not all do have the skills specially if you arent tech savy
2. Not all do have that own computer on their own home
3. Not all are knowledgeable about online opportunities
4. They are contented into their work as of this moment

Each person is different when it comes to mindset on which there would be those individuals who do want to step up in terms of income source and some there are those who do want to stay still or getting contented on what they do have now. Actually if we do literally make up some comparison about into those people who do earn up into those traditional works in compared into freelancing then it is that a couple of times higher if we do speak about salary but of course it will be that still depending or basing up into the skills that you do have and just like been said that not all will be that having some digital skills on which they can offer. There would be different sets of expertise and skills on which not everyone could be able to do such work and thats why its not possible for them to switch up.

Although if we speak about possibilities or career shift, then its possible but it will be needing up another again some time for you to learn up the skills and it takes time and thats why they would be discouraged and just that decided to stick into their current works. Actually it will be that still depending on you because we do have our own preference and we do have our own decisions or goals in life and thats why it will be just that depending on you on how you do make out such adjustments.

[tottong]

It's true that a permanent job offers a fixed salary and some other benefits, but it restricts the worker to long hours and a small salary. Freelancing, on the other hand, gives you control over your time and the freedom to work whenever you want, according to your circumstances and earn a higher wage.
Perhaps in some developed countries that offer high salaries and shorter working hours a permanent job might be better.

Every job has a different level, both in terms of salary and work hours that require someone to follow the rules, but on the one hand working in a place like both has a system that must be followed.
Some people like freelance work with the assumption of freedom of time and other advantages, as well as permanent jobs that offer fixed salaries and some other benefits, this depends on the conditions of a person who is more comfortable working in which sector.

But generally people prefer to work with a big salary and a short duration of time because everything is fulfilled according to the wishes of each individual.
But it is much better to build your own business because you can manage your time according to your wishes and we become the boss at our own place.

[Coyster]

You can be working remotely without it being a short-term or a temporary thing and it is different from a gig, what you are describing in your OP is more akin to a remote worker, rather than something that is always temporary. Working from home can be challenging, particularly mentally, that is if you don't get to out often for other reasons.

That said, if you have highly sought-after skills and you can bag a high paying remote job, it can cover for the benefits that 9-5 people enjoy, such as health insurance, pension, etc. Many people who have remote jobs also mix it with physical jobs, which puts them ahead of people who only work 9-5.

[kotajikikox]

You can be working remotely without it being a short-term or a temporary thing and it is different from a gig, what you are describing in your OP is more akin to a remote worker, rather than something that is always temporary.

Yes not all gig workers are remote workers but a lot of them are. They are even often called as freelances where these workers just jump from client to client whatever skills are required for it.

That said, if you have highly sought-after skills and you can bag a high paying remote job, it can cover for the benefits that 9-5 people enjoy, such as health insurance, pension, etc. Many people who have remote jobs also mix it with physical jobs, which puts them ahead of people who only work 9-5.

We all have different lifestyles so it depends on what is you think the best for you. The fact that there are options now is a huge difference from our world before.

[Agbamoni]

2 Years ago, remote working was worth it. Most persons were lucky to find a 5 year to 7 year contract with high pay but now there are less opportunities for remote workers because the percentage of remote workers increase exponentially every year.

We must also look at other factors like how tough the work is. So if it is tough, then I don't think some are willing to go for it, even if the term is long and the pay is nice. I agree that remote working is a thing now but I believe not many has a pleasant experience with it, so that still gives a room for others to enter. And if many are interested in working remotely, then companies should see this as an opportunity, so there must also be more companies that are looking for remote workers and they can offer a better rate for the applicants to choose them.

Is there any high paying job out there that is easy to do? To be able to have a good pay while working remotely you must have the necessary skills, and most importantly be good at communication. I mean, no job easy, only a lazy persons will neglect a good job and high paying job because it seems tough. The last time I check the job that looks easy tend to be the most difficult. For instance I work in remote organist ion where we have only 10 workers, the workload will be much especially if it is a startup but imagine working for a company like Google, Microsoft or Amazon, where thee is 500 to 1000 workers if not more than. The workload will be less and the pay is still high. These people value your skill more than anything else.

[slapper]

You claim you felt like both the boss and the worker, but for most people, it's simply being trapped in the middle. Being in charge of oneself, yet never really letting go. This hybrid status not new; it is the oldest trick in the book: shift responsibility without shifting reward. Talk to any freelancer who has ever had to deal with an unpaid bill or worry about health insurance

I understand why people like the "routine", the carefully chosen clients, and the feeling of control. Is it really the gig economy, or is it really an attempt to bring some order out of the chaos? Is real independence possible, or is it just a smart way to rebrand endless hustle and uncertainty? And why do we all pretend like it's a choice of lifestyle when so many people would give up "flexibility" for even a hint of safety or community if the appropriate deal came along? That's the main problem: there are more choices but fewer certainties, and an feeling of loneliness that looks like freedom. May the next step isn't to break down old categories, but to come up with new laws that let individuals keep their dignity while still getting paid

[Republikcoin.com]

Every job has a different level, both in terms of salary and work hours that require someone to follow the rules, but on the one hand working in a place like both has a system that must be followed.
Some people like freelance work with the assumption of freedom of time and other advantages, as well as permanent jobs that offer fixed salaries and some other benefits, this depends on the conditions of a person who is more comfortable working in which sector.

But generally people prefer to work with a big salary and a short duration of time because everything is fulfilled according to the wishes of each individual.
But it is much better to build your own business because you can manage your time according to your wishes and we become the boss at our own place.

For people who still value their time more so that it is not wasted just because of work, it would clearly be better to open your own business in order to make the most of your time in your own life. But for those who are not yet able to open their own business, I think there are only two choices, namely working at someone else's place by obeying the existing rules or becoming an influencer with a salary that has been determined by the person who offered the job to him. So in this case it is quite clear that every choice is in our own hands, although generally everyone always pursues a job that can provide a large salary without sacrificing too much of their time in this life.

[shinratensei_]

It's a crazy loophole that only benefits the big companies. Companies like Uber, e-Food, etc that takes advantage of this situation should be forced to hire all their workers. The flexible hours model can also be applied while hiring someone. There's no limit to that. It's just a matter of cost cutting for these scummy companies.

If it only benefited the big companies there wouldn't be people working through such apps. These companies are actually pretty useful, and even though they take a slice of gig workers' income, it's an essential marketplace where gig workers can get in touch with customers and vice versa in a reliable way.

Ironically, governments and businesses are forced to hire labor force to work for them, but people don't want that. They prefer to be autonomous workers through Uber, Ifood and similars. Personally, I prefer to make my own schedule and to define for how many hours I wish to work daily, so gig job is the way to go.

I do think the same, gig job for people who are seeking for flexible hours, making it full time employee will cost a lot, economically speaking and might not be sustaining.
The only concern that I have for these gig worker is the exploitation where they get pinalized for canceling order.

Flexible hour gig job should have flexible rules too.

[G_Besar]

It's a crazy loophole that only benefits the big companies. Companies like Uber, e-Food, etc that takes advantage of this situation should be forced to hire all their workers. The flexible hours model can also be applied while hiring someone. There's no limit to that. It's just a matter of cost cutting for these scummy companies.

If it only benefited the big companies there wouldn't be people working through such apps. These companies are actually pretty useful, and even though they take a slice of gig workers' income, it's an essential marketplace where gig workers can get in touch with customers and vice versa in a reliable way.

Ironically, governments and businesses are forced to hire labor force to work for them, but people don't want that. They prefer to be autonomous workers through Uber, Ifood and similars. Personally, I prefer to make my own schedule and to define for how many hours I wish to work daily, so gig job is the way to go.

I do think the same, gig job for people who are seeking for flexible hours, making it full time employee will cost a lot, economically speaking and might not be sustaining.
The only concern that I have for these gig worker is the exploitation where they get pinalized for canceling order.

Flexible hour gig job should have flexible rules too.

The rules are indeed made not to benefit workers and it is inseparable from the desire of the company to take big profits and minimize risks.
I think that workers like that do their jobs under duress because they have no other place to support their lives and that is realized and also utilized by the company so that it creates a lot of injustice for workers, there is nothing that can be done because the company offers jobs to anyone who wants to follow the rules they make.

[ndutndut]

It's true that a permanent job offers a fixed salary and some other benefits, but it restricts the worker to long hours and a small salary. Freelancing, on the other hand, gives you control over your time and the freedom to work whenever you want, according to your circumstances and earn a higher wage.
Perhaps in some developed countries that offer high salaries and shorter working hours a permanent job might be better.

Every job has a different level, both in terms of salary and work hours that require someone to follow the rules, but on the one hand working in a place like both has a system that must be followed.
Some people like freelance work with the assumption of freedom of time and other advantages, as well as permanent jobs that offer fixed salaries and some other benefits, this depends on the conditions of a person who is more comfortable working in which sector.

But generally people prefer to work with a big salary and a short duration of time because everything is fulfilled according to the wishes of each individual.
But it is much better to build your own business because you can manage your time according to your wishes and we become the boss at our own place.

Every job actually has its own freedom, it's just which freedom we like and of course everyone chooses a job with a high salary, whether it's working in a company or choosing freelance. In addition, if you think about it, freedom is not about work but about how we interpret a condition.

Office work can be financially stable, Freelancers are free not to have to come to the office and Business, free from superiors. Well, basically what we focus on will shape our mindset. And how perfect it would be if we did all three and could divide our time well which is much better for achieving financial stability in the future. Because the more income, the closer you will be to achieving financial freedom.

[Zwei]

The answer to your question: Are temporary workers employees or employers? Of course, they are employers not employees. We can call them temporary employees because they perform temporary work, get paid and that's it.

As for which is better, temporary work or a job, the answer varies from person to person. Some people are better suited to freelancing, while others are only suited to jobs. This depends on the individual's situation and skills. However, for me, I prefer freelancing to a job.

in work of course it will vary depending on the profession of the person, and they are the ones who determine the income they get but all jobs will be easier to do depending on our choice, if we want a stable income and guarantees that will be obtained of course a permanent job will be chosen and I will continue in that direction to start it. rather than freelance but it all depends on us to choose of course for a better future.

I respect your opinion but I disagree slightly. From personal experience I can say that a permanent job is no better than freelancing. I was a permanent government employee for many years, then left my job and moved into freelancing.

It's true that a permanent job offers a fixed salary and some other benefits, but it restricts the worker to long hours and a small salary. Freelancing, on the other hand, gives you control over your time and the freedom to work whenever you want, according to your circumstances and earn a higher wage.

most permanent jobs are kind of a trap. you get used to the fixed salary and stop trying to improve your income. if you have people you are responsible for, a mortgage or loans you need to pay back, you are dead stuck with the job even if you hate it.

not to mention most of them are dead end jobs with no upward mobility, no promotions, and only small salary increases if you are lucky to get one depending on where you live, especially if you are working for the government.
freelancing has its drawbacks too, but imo it's the better option if you have an indemand skill and know how to market yourself.

[yhiaali3]

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I respect your opinion but I disagree slightly. From personal experience I can say that a permanent job is no better than freelancing. I was a permanent government employee for many years, then left my job and moved into freelancing.

It's true that a permanent job offers a fixed salary and some other benefits, but it restricts the worker to long hours and a small salary. Freelancing, on the other hand, gives you control over your time and the freedom to work whenever you want, according to your circumstances and earn a higher wage.

most permanent jobs are kind of a trap. you get used to the fixed salary and stop trying to improve your income. if you have people you are responsible for, a mortgage or loans you need to pay back, you are dead stuck with the job even if you hate it.

not to mention most of them are dead end jobs with no upward mobility, no promotions, and only small salary increases if you are lucky to get one depending on where you live, especially if you are working for the government.
freelancing has its drawbacks too, but imo it's the better option if you have an indemand skill and know how to market yourself.

What you're saying is absolutely true and accurate. I'm speaking from my own experience because I have tried both types of work. I was a government employee for a long time, then left it and started freelancing for myself. There is a big difference.

I worked in a government job for a long time with the same routine and the same salary with minimal raises, few vacations, and no promotions. My salary wasn't enough to cover my monthly expenses...
And after I left my job and started freelancing, my income improved significantly and I became self-employed. I regretted the days I spent working.

[TheUltraElite]

Gig work is basically good for the period in which it is booming, like the pandemic for example. It will not sustain beyond that. So I think those who have stable incomes, build a foundation that can help survive through the crisis periods in future without having to resort to gig economy.

For those who are not able to get into any sort of jobs, gigs might be better, but always keep the idea of a stable income job and dont stop looking for one even when already running gigs.

Cons are a lot to consider during gigs, one health problem/one natural disaster and the entire system collapses down on the person running it.

[retreat]

Is being a gig worker worth all the cons mentioned? or do you still find being a traditional employee more appealing?

It depends on the person, some people feel that having a permanent job with a monthly salary is better, but there are also people who feel that being a freelancer is better, because you don't need to be tied to a contract and you can be flexible to determine your working hours. I myself see both as having their own advantages and disadvantages, but if it's in line with my current condition of having several responsibilities, I feel that having a permanent job makes more sense, because I can get a salary every month, I can get health insurance and pension funds from the company, and there is a contract, so there is a guarantee that I can still get a salary for living. But that's not to say that freelancing is bad, it's just a matter of circumstance, and if I have the opportunity to have both, I'd prefer it to be that way, because having multiple sources of income is much better than just relying on a monthly salary.

[DeathAngel]

I guess gig workers are technically independent contractors so not employees. But they don’t set the rules like true employers either. They take on risks without the usual benefits of a job, all while working under platforms control. They’re neither fully employees nor real employers, more like workers with the responsibilities of both & the protections of neither.

[m2017]

Is being a gig worker worth all the cons mentioned? or do you still find being a traditional employee more appealing?

Each individual case needs to be considered separately.

At different stages of a professional career, the benefits of working as a traditional employee and as a freelancer will differ. At the very beginning, when an employee has little experience, it is more profitable for him to work for hire. But as soon as his level of expertise has grown and he can "sell" his time more expensively than the "labor market", it becomes more profitable for him to work as a freelancer. That is, the hourly rate will be higher and this gives flexibility in organizing your work processes (work exactly as much as you need).

There is nothing universal. Each type of work has its pros and cons. The choice should be made based on your capabilities and level of expertise, as well as a predisposition to a particular type of organization of work processes. Not everyone can be a successful freelancer and most prefer to work for hire, because there are advantages, such as the fact that all organizational issues are taken on by the employer (as well as issues related to taxes, health insurance, etc.).

[sunsilk]

I do think the same, gig job for people who are seeking for flexible hours, making it full time employee will cost a lot, economically speaking and might not be sustaining.
The only concern that I have for these gig worker is the exploitation where they get pinalized for canceling order.

Flexible hour gig job should have flexible rules too.

There are many incidents the gig workers have been exploited, but it's the same with the typical employees, who are also exploited by the companies that they work for.

As for the gig workers having flexible time. It really depends on the agreement and the job type that they have accepted.

It is in the rules of the employer or the contractor that has to be followed and honored by the gig workers. The employees might think of them as their employee because they're also paid but, it's subjective.

[tottong]

For people who still value their time more so that it is not wasted just because of work, it would clearly be better to open your own business in order to make the most of your time in your own life. But for those who are not yet able to open their own business, I think there are only two choices, namely working at someone else's place by obeying the existing rules or becoming an influencer with a salary that has been determined by the person who offered the job to him. So in this case it is quite clear that every choice is in our own hands, although generally everyone always pursues a job that can provide a large salary without sacrificing too much of their time in this life.

If you haven't had the opportunity to build your own business, then you should work in someone else's place and save as much money as possible so that when you have capital, you can build your own business even though it is in a small category.
People who dare to get out of their comfort zone usually have a much more advanced view and people like this are not afraid to fail to start, so the chances of achieving success are much greater.
Something needs to be fought for and there is no need to think about failing before trying because most people tend to choose a place that is comfortable and has no risk.

The choice does depend on each individual, but fighting when young is much better because we can enjoy our old age with the success we have built since a young age.