Is this a merit worth post?

[GameofMeritsucking]

User: coaltin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5527094.msg65428756#msg65428756

[hosemary]

This is a clear merit abuse.
Mastercon sent merit to his alt account and below is the proof.

coaltin owns 1DDjnKAn1Vq273JScK7KDWcq5wDEjuDVQ5 and according to wallet explorer, the address is a deposit address on Poloniex.
Mastercon owns bc1qlm68jjll97lpyy48hecnhfy34dw0tqm6ycq8zr and made this transaction to the above address to make a deposit in Poloniex.


Proof of addresses:

Bitcointalk Username: coaltin
Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=528653
Bitcoin Address(SegWit): 1DDjnKAn1Vq273JScK7KDWcq5wDEjuDVQ5

Bitcointalk Username: Mastercon
BTC segwit address: bc1qlm68jjll97lpyy48hecnhfy34dw0tqm6ycq8zr

[SamReomo]

This is a clear merit abuse.
Mastercon sent merit to his alt account and below is the proof.

His alt account got red tags but still he sent merits to that alt account. All account farmers retard to some extent? This is clear case of stupidity because what one would get by sending merits to a red tagged account which can't even enroll in signature campaigns as no campaign manager is going to accept such accounts.

[JeromeTash]

Probably tying to troll around. Even if he sends 100 sMerits to is alt account. It's already tagged so he is somehow wasting time as any sane campaign manager may never enroll it in any signature campaign.
If he thinks that he will also use the alt to gather some merits and then send them out to other alt accounts, he will still be caught

Nutildah also uncovered another of Mastercon's alt accounts which happens to also send merits to coaltin - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5335270.msg65428902#msg65428902
I don't think it'[s a coincidence.

[hosemary]

Probably tying to troll around. Even if he sends 100 sMerits to is alt account. It's already tagged so he is somehow wasting time as any sane campaign manager may never enroll it in any signature campaign.

But he is also ruining Mastercon's reputation which in now enrolled in a signature campaign.

The user is really a shit poster and I had noticed that for the past few days. (More information in ABCbits' post)

Nutildah also uncovered another of Mastercon's alt accounts which happens to also send merits to coaltin - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5335270.msg65428902#msg65428902
I don't think it'[s a coincidence.

So, all the three accounts (Mastercon, rsarkar and coaltin) are owned by the same person and they are all involved in abusing the merit system.

[LoyceV]

While we're on rhetorical questions: Is it worth creating an alt-account just to post this? Both users involved are on my Ignore list already.

[Smartvirus]

While we're on rhetorical questions: Is it worth creating an alt-account just to post this? Both users involved are on my Ignore list already.

Creating alts just for the sake of an attack, to keep your main account out of the way and be cool has always come with mixed feelings with me. The forum is filled with these kind of accounts and it highlights just how several accounts are created and dumped after a short purposeful theme. You’ll be sure to find them create another just when the need arises and then, they dump them yet again.

However, 5merits to an application, that doesn’t just highlight the application but, raises a lot of eyebrows as their are many same sane applications that got nothing. Now we know why!

[Despairo]

While we're on rhetorical questions: Is it worth creating an alt-account just to post this? Both users involved are on my Ignore list already.

@OP could be targeted with the same way, probably he also own alt accounts or there were few of his merited posts are questionable. Honestly this thread isn't worth for discussion, I mean like, yeah it's merit abuse, then what?

Either the sender and receiver won't get red tag just because of merit abuse, it's different if @OP bring something like a connection of two accounts and evidence if they're cheating.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Creating alts just for the sake of an attack, to keep your main account out of the way and be cool has always come with mixed feelings with me. The forum is filled with these kind of accounts and it highlights just how several accounts are created and dumped after a short purposeful theme. You’ll be sure to find them create another just when the need arises and then, they dump them yet again.

Sometimes the creation of alts can have a normal reason, when the user presents controversial evidence, fearing for his main account, which, as you know, also comes under scrutiny. But this case is simply not worth paying attention to.
Coaltin received merits from Masterson twice. Instead of wasting time on creating an account, can watch the further actions of these accounts, as they can be more interesting than transferring merits.

[Cointxz]

User: coaltin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5527094.msg65428756#msg65428756

Definitely not. It doesn’t contribute to the forum.

It is even just considered as bump post since it’s use is to apply and bump the service thread.

Merit is not moderated so we can’t do anything about it rather just informed manager for merit abused through neutral feedback.

[hugeblack]

User: coaltin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5527094.msg65428756#msg65428756

5 Merit won't change much, especially since neither account is a merit source.
Frankly, there is no need to create more Merit topics unless the offense with +20 Merits.

[JollyGood]

When looking the account history of the member that received the merits along with the account history of the member that sent them, I think most members would agree this is a clear case of merit abuse. Both accounts have been tagged therefore should not have any long term future in the forum.

Having said that, the sender of the merits is enrolled in a campaign therefore as long as he is enrolled in campaigns he will continue to be active here.

User: coaltin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5527094.msg65428756#msg65428756

[Shishir99]

While we're on rhetorical questions: Is it worth creating an alt-account just to post this? Both users involved are on my Ignore list already.

You seem kinda different in this thread. I see that usually when someone asks questions like they should have posted that from the main account, you defend the thread creator and post something like the ones I quoted below.

I do want to point out that you should have some balls and use your main account when accusing people of wrongdoings.

Theymos seems to disagree with you:

If you're hesitant to say something controversial because you don't want it to be associated with your name, please create an alt account and say it.

You have mentioned this post of theymos 11 times in your forum life. I assume this is the first time you are asking if it is worth creating an alt-account to post it. So, I would like to quote theymos for you 

If you're hesitant to say something controversial because you don't want it to be associated with your name, please create an alt account and say it.

[Liliana1304]

After his account resurrected on the 5th of February of this year, there hasn't been much activity done by this user and looking at the post that earned him that number of merits would just tell you what you need to know; it's merit abuse and this Mastercon sent 2 merits to this account for yet another seemingly bland response here and even though the gifting of merit is based on the individual doing the giving, this one still doesn't count.

Should due punishment not be served since according to the other users that feel it's an alt account of Mastercon, he gave merits to an already red tagged account. Is it not a case of ban evasion or something?

[nutildah]

I have red tagged accounts Mastercon, bitterbit and rsarkar based on connections made in this thread by hosemary and JeromeTash. The other two accounts are also alts of Mastercon as pointed out in my post referenced by JeromeTash. I could not believe the arrogance of Mastercon in response to his recent loan application being denied by shasan. He clearly exhibits the pathological absence of manners or remorse that is typical of professional scammers. Hope he gets removed from his campaign tbh.

[yahoo62278]

After his account resurrected on the 5th of February of this year, there hasn't been much activity done by this user and looking at the post that earned him that number of merits would just tell you what you need to know; it's merit abuse and this Mastercon sent 2 merits to this account for yet another seemingly bland response here and even though the gifting of merit is based on the individual doing the giving, this one still doesn't count.

Should due punishment not be served since according to the other users that feel it's an alt account of Mastercon, he gave merits to an already red tagged account. Is it not a case of ban evasion or something?

He is punished now so it doesn't matter anymore. If he has an issue with the red tag, he can come in here and explain himself. The admins don't intervene in scams here and IMO, but the community steps in and moderates scammers themselves. Cheaters never win IMO.

[Onyeeze]

User: coaltin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5527094.msg65428756#msg65428756

That's merit abuse and the owner of the account is trying to cheat the system and it's prohibited for doing that, how can you use your Smerit and your alt, that means the person doesn't want a circulation of merit across the forum, and what causes this kind of a thing is greediness, for me it's totally merit abused, and both accounts is being linked up and that's why it was visible that the both accounts belong to one user if I'm not mistaken, for me people have to know that meriting your account your alt is cheating, let them know now.

[LoyceV]

You have mentioned this post of theymos 11 times in your forum life. I assume this is the first time you are asking if it is worth creating an alt-account to post it. So, I would like to quote theymos for you 

Lol, you counted?
I wouldn't say pointing out obvious Merit abuse is controversial, so that wouldn't be something I'd create an alt-account for.

[Shishir99]

Lol, you counted?
I wouldn't say pointing out obvious Merit abuse is controversial, so that wouldn't be something I'd create an alt-account for.

Some people fear discussing these topics. Probably they are less experienced. I wouldn't fear talking about these things. However, as you can see, some people with Member or Full Member rank who lack sufficient forum background may think that creating this type of topic could bring unwanted attention to their account. So, they choose to create an account, say it from their alternative account. I have nothing against them. I often see people tell them that they should have some balls to talk from their main account. But I think I have seen people who accused someone of doing something, later they got tagged or exposed for doing some shitty things.

[Liliana1304]

He is punished now so it doesn't matter anymore. If he has an issue with the red tag, he can come in here and explain himself. The admins don't intervene in scams here and IMO, but the community steps in and moderates scammers themselves. Cheaters never win IMO.

A thief hardly owns up to his crimes or come ups up to defend himself except it's a very good one who knows how to clean up his tracks so I doubt that he'd be confident to do that because evidence has piled up against him and it's a good thing that he has been properly handled. The annoying thing is that this sort of punishment will not stop them from creating more accounts.