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June 04, 2025, 02:55:54 PM
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I am the VP of a Bitcoin Mining facility and i come across this question ALL THE TIME!!!!

Here is why i thing Bitcoin Mining is better option than just buying and HODLing and below is an article by me about it.

1. Long-term, you accumulate more BTC
2. Daily cash flow instead of stagnant holding
3. Greater flexibility when selling your BTC
4. Purchase of real, tangible assets
5. Combined value of machines and cash flow
6. Tax benefits from purchase and operation
7. Connection with experienced miners and OGs
8. Resale of machines at a good price
9. Opportunities for profitable strategies
10. Limited options if you only hold BTC

Link: https://bitmernmining.com/why-bitcoin-mining-is-a-smarter-investment-than-just-buying-it/

Let me know any takes on the subject that i can use to defent my position, but also if you think that BUYing and HODLing it makes more sense, give me reasons please!

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June 15, 2025, 12:34:43 AM
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1. Long-term, you accumulate more BTC

That's only a speculation, no fact -- your gear may die or become unprofitable to run long before you accumulate the BTC or the equivalent of what you bought it for.

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2. Daily cash flow instead of stagnant holding

BTC is too liquid; it makes this argument wrong. If you bought BTC for the same amount of cash you spent on the gear , you can sell BTC daily and have the cash flow you want.

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3. Greater flexibility when selling your BTC

How?

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4. Purchase of real, tangible assets

Irrelevant, your mining gear is directly related to BTC, if BTC falls, your gear drops with it, a very weak point.

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5. Combined value of machines and cash flow

Same points you mentioned earlier

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6. Tax benefits from purchase and operation

Limited to certain countries, doesn't apply for me.

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7. Connection with experienced miners and OGs

Useless.

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8. Resale of machines at a good price

Assumption.

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9. Opportunities for profitable strategies

How?

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10. Limited options if you only hold BTC

Not worse than owning mining gear.



This topic gets discussed endlessly here, with everyone having their own take. Personally, based on my own experience, nothing beats buying and holding BTC, especially if you dollar-cost average your way in and out slowly.






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June 15, 2025, 02:31:02 PM
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1. Long-term, you accumulate more BTC

That's only a speculation, no fact -- your gear may die or become unprofitable to run long before you accumulate the BTC or the equivalent of what you bought it for.

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2. Daily cash flow instead of stagnant holding

BTC is too liquid; it makes this argument wrong. If you bought BTC for the same amount of cash you spent on the gear , you can sell BTC daily and have the cash flow you want.

Quote
3. Greater flexibility when selling your BTC

How?

Quote
4. Purchase of real, tangible assets

Irrelevant, your mining gear is directly related to BTC, if BTC falls, your gear drops with it, a very weak point.

Quote
5. Combined value of machines and cash flow

Same points you mentioned earlier

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6. Tax benefits from purchase and operation

Limited to certain countries, doesn't apply for me.

Quote
7. Connection with experienced miners and OGs

Useless.

Quote
8. Resale of machines at a good price

Assumption.

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9. Opportunities for profitable strategies

How?

Quote
10. Limited options if you only hold BTC

Not worse than owning mining gear.



This topic gets discussed endlessly here, with everyone having their own take. Personally, based on my own experience, nothing beats buying and holding BTC, especially if you dollar-cost average your way in and out slowly.







I still mine. and in the USA you do get tax breaks.  I make profits mining.

But looking backwards in time from 2012 to 2025. 
I would have made millions with simple buy and hold.

I have not made millions mining.

Mining in the USA is less profits but less risk. Assuming you have cheap power.
It is far more work than buy and hold.

As of now I have

6 s21xp's
1 modded t21
1 L7

they earn about 3300 worth of coins each month
they cost 1850 in power to run

profit of 1450usd a month which I hold as coins.

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June 16, 2025, 10:41:55 PM
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@Phill.

We have both mined for a long time -- at small and medium scales -- so we know how things actually play out. But trust me, to someone on the outside relying on online mining profit calculators, nothing we say makes any sense. It's gotten to the point where someone claimed I only say hodling BTC is better than mining because I don't want others increasing the difficulty. 😄

What people need to understand is that mining, at its core, is like giving the market a loan and hoping it pays you back with interest. But the market is neither honest nor kind.


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June 17, 2025, 12:27:21 AM
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@Phill.

We have both mined for a long time -- at small and medium scales -- so we know how things actually play out. But trust me, to someone on the outside relying on online mining profit calculators, nothing we say makes any sense. It's gotten to the point where someone claimed I only say hodling BTC is better than mining because I don't want others increasing the difficulty. 😄

What people need to understand is that mining, at its core, is like giving the market a loan and hoping it pays you back with interest. But the market is neither honest nor kind.



thats funny.

way way way back in the day.

i did 21gh in gpus

the whole network was 21th

this means in my home in new jersey on and off in the fall of 2012 i was running 1/1000 of the entire worlds hashrate.

about 11kwatts of power .  my garage was smoking hot.🥵

now the network is 1000eh

so i need to mine 1 eh

which is 1000ph
which is 1,000,000 th

a s21 is 200 th

so i need 5000 s21s to be equal to what i was doing back in 2012

that is  17  forty foot containers

burning 3 megawatts each or 51 megawatts  which is 51,000 kwatts vs the 11 kwatts I used.

It was a fun trip and the few hundred thousand i earned in 13 years was nice.

but yea the labor I did was far too much

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June 17, 2025, 12:50:17 AM
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The question of whether it is more profitable to mine Bitcoin or just buy and hold it (HODL) is one of the most discussed in the crypto community. There is no clear answer, since the profitability of each approach depends on many factors. Let's look at the pros and cons of each option.

Bitcoin Mining: A Game for the Patient and Tech-Savvy
Pros of Mining:
Potentially High Profitability: If you set up your equipment correctly and have access to cheap electricity, mining can bring in a steady income.
Contributing to the Bitcoin Network:
Mining helps maintain a decentralized and secure Bitcoin network.
The ability to obtain new bitcoins: You receive bitcoins directly from the network, rather than buying them on an exchange.
Disadvantages of mining:
High start-up costs: You will need expensive hardware (ASIC miners) that quickly becomes obsolete.
High operating costs: Electricity is a major expense, and its cost can significantly affect profitability.
Technical difficulties: Setting up and maintaining equipment requires technical knowledge and skills.
Competition:
Mining difficulty is constantly increasing, which requires more powerful equipment and increases competition.
Risk of loss: If the price of Bitcoin falls or the cost of electricity rises, mining may become unprofitable.
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June 17, 2025, 08:50:30 AM
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Interesting points on why mining can be more profitable than just buying and holding Bitcoin. I like how you break down the key advantages. Seems like mining could be a smart way to build your BTC stack over the long run, with more upside potential than just sitting on your hands.
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