Are all good sports betting tipsters insiders?

[Julien_Olynpic]

A while ago I created a thread arguing that without a good forecasting system it is almost impossible to make a profit in sports betting in the long term. However, users were skeptical about this and other similar statements I made regarding forecasting. Many claimed that only insiders can make a profit in sports betting in the long term. In this regard, I would like to ask the following question:
Do you think that all good sports betting tipsters are insiders?
Or, to put it a little differently: are all long-term successful sports bettors insiders?

[MAAManda]

Good questions!

Do you think that all good sports betting tipsters are insiders?

This can't be confirmed because we really don't know the truth other than having the evidence. Logically, if they can make easy money from betting as insiders, why would they open a tipster service? that doesn't make sense, because if I found a gold mine, I would keep the information to myself or at most to my family.

Are all long-term successful sports bettors insiders?

Again, we can't confirm it because we don't have any evidence. But I've a story from my distant friend who was successful in this field & he's a runner. Runner refer to people who make deals with local clubs & then report/forward the information to the bookies. He's making good money from this, IYKWIM.

Conclusion & to answer the second question, my answer is "Maybe" .

[cabron]

You don't need to be an insider to win but most likely being a fan of the sport means you follow the news and the updates of the team members of a team. If you are into boxing, you may have followed the injuries and some fighters who struggle to fight someone with different strategy.  This is where the tipsters realize, possibilities that an underdog may win. Or just the age difference can be a factor.

With these information, you don't need to be an insider.  But you may watch out videos of tipster after all, he is also a fan of the sport.

[Davidvictorson]

My answer is No. All long-term successful sports bettors are not insiders. To be successful long term in betting is to have developed some very special analytic and specialized skills to spot some patterns. Some of these successful long-term sports bettors have already become so vast in it that they have developed that own system of betting that makes them successful and look like they are insiders. Although at least a small percentage might be insiders, it can not be all of them.

[viljy]

First, we need to determine what percentage of forecasts are considered good in the long run. For example, 52% allows you to win in the long run and it is quite possible to call such a person successful in sports betting. An insider is incomparably "more successful", because instead of 52% success, his effectiveness can reach, conditionally, 92%. But the insider doesn't work alone. He is always a part of the system, in which profits are distributed among the participants of the scheme.

An insider will never advertise his success, write books about betting, etc. On the other hand, the same 52% success rate can come to just a lucky bettor, and he may even imagine himself to be an expert in betting. So a successful bettor is not necessarily an insider, they differ in the percentage of "luck".

[KiaKia]

A while ago I created a thread arguing that without a good forecasting system it is almost impossible to make a profit in sports betting in the long term. However, users were skeptical about this and other similar statements I made regarding forecasting. Many claimed that only insiders can make a profit in sports betting in the long term. In this regard, I would like to ask the following question:
Do you think that all good sports betting tipsters are insiders?
Or, to put it a little differently: are all long-term successful sports bettors insiders?

Insider for a game that's not been played yet? That sounds like cheating to me, another example of a rigged game, it means that the winner is already decided from the beginning and all the teams know about it?

I think this is only possible in games with just two people challenging each other, they are the easiest to rig, simply because it takes only two people for example boxing or tennis, each team must have accepted and conclude who the winner will be.

It's another story with football, because they are too many players, you can't confuse them all which can cause some leak out and even the game referees can't decide the fate of the match without getting exposed.

Sports and insiders can't work, you are not the one who will carry out the actions yourself, insiders are good with animal sports like horse race because they know the ones that have gotten adrenaline injection or some enhancements drugs so all bet will go to the rigged horse.

[Orpichukwu]

In this regard, I would like to ask the following question:
Do you think that all good sports betting tipsters are insiders?
Or, to put it a little differently: are all long-term successful sports bettors insiders?

I have my suspicions sometimes in regard to this, but it's not entirely possible, and it shouldn't be, and even if you have someone who gives you inside information, how accurate could it be all the time? Let's not forget that even the coaches of some teams on both sides can't be able to determine the game result before it gets started. They can only have their expectations based on the performance of their players, but the game can change on the field.

Let's just say some of them have insider tips, but that can't guarantee their long-term success unless they get involved in game rigging, which some big organizations are accused of, but that doesn't happen all the time because of the implications behind it if they are caught.

[Ruttoshi]

I don't think that all long-term successful sport bettors are insiders, because there are some other gamblers who can be successful in the long run based on their understanding on the game. However, no one can tell if this is true because there's no fact or data to back it up.

It's rare to see a gambler that is successful in sportbet in the long run but I believe they exist and not all is an insider.

[libert19]

Do you think that all good sports betting tipsters are insiders?

I don't think you particularly need to have inside knowledge to be a good tipster; you can be a good at it by merely having deep knowledge of sports itself and keeping up with public happenings.

All insiders can be a good tipsters though, obviously because they have inside knowledge and more the knowledge the better your chances for winning.

[btc_angela]

A while ago I created a thread arguing that without a good forecasting system it is almost impossible to make a profit in sports betting in the long term. However, users were skeptical about this and other similar statements I made regarding forecasting. Many claimed that only insiders can make a profit in sports betting in the long term. In this regard, I would like to ask the following question:
Do you think that all good sports betting tipsters are insiders?
Or, to put it a little differently: are all long-term successful sports bettors insiders?

I would say no, not all good sports bettors are insiders. Maybe they are really good in that particular sports as they could have been following it for years and so he is more familiar with it and that's why it looks very easy for him to make correction predictions.

So it could also be called an art, just like any other things in life that will make us money. We really don't know that in the beginning we spend a lot of time on that sports and then we really become good at that in the future.

[Doan9269]

A while ago I created a thread arguing that without a good forecasting system it is almost impossible to make a profit in sports betting in the long term.

This is just a possibility, but not having assurance as it was being said, we can be make a huge profits without any form or kind of forecast, because it's not all the gamblers that win big ended up achieving this through a forecast made, some have this from their individual abilities, place a bet on sport and win big or little by the chance of their experience and knowledge in playing.

Many claimed that only insiders can make a profit in sports betting in the long term.

I've seen a little boy who gamble with a small amount less than a dollar and won over 200,000 dollar, this is just a single example, there are many as well in this same category, so I many not agree on this note, because even those called the insiders also lose bets, those close to within the system make wrong predictions and lose, except if the match if fixed up.

[Ishicryptic]

Insider tipster is only possible and effective if there is somehow that they will manipulate game results, if not the insider tipsters are no different from outsider tipsters because they all rely on their knowledge of the sport. If you cannot manipulate what happens on the field of play you cannot guarantee that your tip is a sure win, it means that you are relying on the statistics of games that the teams have played in the past. What a tipster needs is adequate knowledge of the sport that they have interest and they can effortlessly analyze the strengths and weaknesses of players and teams in that sport.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Do you think that all good sports betting tipsters are insiders?
Or, to put it a little differently: are all long-term successful sports bettors insiders?

No, I don't think that betting tipsters are insiders, they are just people that are very dedicated in sports betting, they follow every information of the club or games they are betting to fetch helpful information, they watch highlights or the match and also research for more news still about the team and game. I don't believe that all the long term successful sports bettors are insiders, most of them naturally have the time, the energy and the ability to always stay updated with every information that can make sure they get accurate predictions.

[YOSHIE]

Do you think that all good sports betting tipsters are insiders?
Or, to put it a little differently: are all long-term successful sports bettors insiders?

Maybe, indeed we never know manipulating sports betting carried out by insiders, but there are some cases that have occurred in sports gambling.

As stated in this article: Is it possible for people to manipulate sports games for financial gain? If so, what methods do they use to avoid detection?

In my understanding people in having a major role in sports matches, regardless of they want to commit fraud or not, which is clear From the data that I see, of course people have an active role to leak everything to win in gambling.

[Slow death]

The main point is that no one has proof that these bettors who give tips are making a profit from sports betting. In most cases, they are also making high losses, which is why they create Telegram and YouTube channels to give tips that people will pay for. They make money from the payments people make and from the views on YouTube.

Another thing is that they are very smart. They keep giving tips on games with low odds where the chances of winning are very high. Unfortunately, many people don't realize that very low odds are not profitable in the long run.

[swogerino]

A while ago I created a thread arguing that without a good forecasting system it is almost impossible to make a profit in sports betting in the long term. However, users were skeptical about this and other similar statements I made regarding forecasting. Many claimed that only insiders can make a profit in sports betting in the long term. In this regard, I would like to ask the following question:
Do you think that all good sports betting tipsters are insiders?
Or, to put it a little differently: are all long-term successful sports bettors insiders?

Let me counter question your last question, do you believe that there are long term successful sport bettors as surely I don't believe it. I have been in several paid tipping services which had different price tags, from the lowest 9.99 GBP a month a service called Premiumtipping and to well over 150 GBP in betadvisor website, both of them failed me in the long run so I doubt any such service that you call successful unfortunately does not exist. Those people claiming otherwise most likely never have tried such an expensive tipping service or if they did, they just did it short time. I tried long term where long term I call many months of being a member and as I said I was in a loss from such services and that is the reason I don't believe there can be successful long term sport bettors.

[BitMaxz]

I do not believe these tipsters, or even those who have long been successful as bettors, are insiders. I know some tipsters who only give tips based on their own analysis, and not all successful bettors are insiders either.

Even we can be tipsters without going inside. If we know how to analyze a fight or each team, we should be able to predict high-probability bets.

[Marvelockg]

Do you think that all good sports betting tipsters are insiders?
Or, to put it a little differently: are all long-term successful sports bettors insiders?

By insiders, what do you mean? Do you mean Members of the different sports teams that knows some details about the potential outcome of games that others don't know or those that are part of the teams that sets the odds based on some analysis they've done?

To be direct on your question, it's not possible that all sports betting tipsters are insiders. Some insiders might go into offering what they like to call expert prediction tips but even at that, almost everyone in the betting chain lacks a certain level of knowledge on what they are predicting. That's what still makes sports betting and every form of gambling to be very deficult.

[mirakal]

Insiders are important if there are manipulations. But I believe we don't have it in sports betting. The only way to win is to keep ourselves updated and follow every sports event you like, because such information can be used when deciding where to bet.

Perhaps the use of insiders is a form of cheating. I think we don't promote such practices. I know we're going to lose at gambling, but being into sports, you like betting, is not important. It was the game we wanted to witness. And winning the bet is just a bonus.

[el kaka22]

Actually, quote the opposite. Someone who has inside information would never want too many people to bet on something because that leads to saturation and might even get scrutinized by the odds provider. In such cases where someone has inside information about a game, the person would find a bettor with high limits and ask them to bet on the event, rather than telling publicly.

There are some tipsters who are successful but the reason is not inside information but because they are generally good at analysing sports and know where the value lies. I think it's really hard to beat the bookie but in some cases you definitely can.