No Kings parade celebrated - people reject authoritarian Trump

[paxmao]

Asked if he planned to send U.S. troops to Los Angeles, Trump replied: “We’re gonna have troops everywhere. We’re not going to let this happen to our country.

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c0j7jwd20ggo

Thousands of people have gathered in cities across the US to join protests against President Donald Trump as he hosts a military parade in Washington DC.

The demonstrations organised by a group called "No Kings" was billed as a nationwide day of defiance at his policies.

Lawmakers, union leaders and activists gave speeches in cities like New York, Philadelphia and Houston to crowds waving American flags and signs critical of Trump. In Los Angeles, police clashed with protesters as tear gas was fired to disperse crowds.

The military parade celebrated the 250th anniversary of the US Army and was on the same day as Trump's 79th birthday.

https://apnews.com/article/immigration-protests-raids-los-angeles-78eaba714dbdd322715bf7650fb543d7

Tensions in Los Angeles escalated Sunday as thousands of protesters took to the streets in response to President Donald Trump’s extraordinary deployment of the National Guard, blocking off a major freeway and setting self-driving cars on fire as law enforcement used tear gas, rubber bullets, and flash bangs to control the crowd.

Sending the military against your own population is a bad sign. Using the military to provoke and escalate is a sign of a dictator.

[Hispo]

One of the things which has always made the United States to be different from other countries, in which there is less freedom, is how the population is handled and laws are enforced by trained corps of police officers and not the military, the latter is reserved to deal with threats to the nation and the state itself, and they stay in their barracks and military bases. Now Trump is doing exactly what other authoritarian leaders in Russia, Iran and Venezuela do, they use the military of the country against the people they are supposed to protect. It is move number one and the ABC of authoritarian regimes and anti-democracy.

Let wars be fought by military personnel and the civilians be protected and served by people in blue, that is how it is supposed to work in a working/functioning western democracy.

[BADecker]

'No-Kings' is self-contradictory. It was the people who elected Trump that asked for him, not the weak jokers who think that they can throw him aside. If the 'no-kings' people act harshly enough, the regular people will destroy them.

But these 'no-kings' people are accepting bribes from their kings (Soros), and they don't even realize it... or do they? Maybe they are simply lying to themselves.

[_Miracle]

'No-Kings' is self-contradictory. It was the people who elected Trump that asked for him, not the weak jokers who think that they can throw him aside. If the 'no-kings' people act harshly enough, the regular people will destroy them.

But these 'no-kings' people are accepting bribes from their kings (Soros), and they don't even realize it... or do they? Maybe they are simply lying to themselves.

"weak jokers"? you are so brave from behind a computer screen ;-)


3.5% rule look it up

And thank you Paxmao

[_Miracle]

One of the things which has always made the United States to be different from other countries, in which there is less freedom, is how the population is handled and laws are enforced by trained corps of police officers and not the military, the latter is reserved to deal with threats to the nation and the state itself, and they stay in their barracks and military bases. Now Trump is doing exactly what other authoritarian leaders in Russia, Iran and Venezuela do, they use the military of the country against the people they are supposed to protect. It is move number one and the ABC of authoritarian regimes and anti-democracy.

Let wars be fought by military personnel and the civilians be protected and served by people in blue, that is how it is supposed to work in a working/functioning western democracy.

Thank you. More of "we the people" are waking up because of his use of force. It's about damn time.

[franky1]

#no-kings  : because the protesters just want to be a bunch of queens

funny part is that many of these protests are not of independent thinkers, taking time off from work to beleive in something they have deeply thought about. most of the protesters are paid professional agitators and provocateurs influenced by other paid provocateurs.
the influencers are professional organisers. and not of jjust one cause but pushing different agenda's together to make it look like a community of one agenda is bigger then it actually is.
 
they do not have true deep beleives in their protests, they just like being part of a "activist" community. they like the label. they just want to be part of whatever is going viral at the moment. and their influencers talk them into doing dangerous things to stay relevant/noticed within the community..

even the influencers have to switch schemes when one pot of money dries up. they to need to switch to new agenda's to stay in paid employment influencing naive followers

just take this forums very own andrew chow.. he got indoctrinated into the DEI scheme of wanting to become a queen. he went to the extent of telling his family that andrew is dead. demanding they mentally adopt a fully grown daughter(with a p3n!s), demanding people call him by a female name and use feminine pronouns. he was even indoctrinated so deeply that he was willing to take hormones to change his body and eventually want to have his genitals removed..

.. lucky for him though.. the DEI scheme was de-funded.. his influencers disappeared.. and now andrew chow has woken up to the agenda pushed on him.. now he wants to be called andrew and 'he' again, heck he has even grown a moustache to re establish his masculinity. im sure he is glad he didnt get to the point of genital removal surgery(irreversible)

most protesters these days dont actually have independent decision making thoughts of life long beliefs. they just follow the crowd, until the crowd dissipates and they just find a new crowd to join

..
take for instance anyone that has a anger towards elon musk..
.. has there ever been a time in someones life where they thought they actually wanted to firebomb another random persons car. ever a time someone actually wanted a criminal record.. logic suggests normal people dont want to go that path..

however paid influencers manage to talk idiots into criminal damage and aggressive interactions..
and these Molotov cocktail criminals were not even ex employees of public service so were not personally affected by elon, however they were influenced by organised democrats whom talked naive crowds into causing criminal damage to get noticed by their politicians they adore

..
now lets take trump.
before showing influenced aggression.. before repeating scripts and mantra's you read from social media.. try and list how trump has personally affected your life negatively.
i know your itching to recite social media propaganda lists. but lets just cancel out the standard social media crap:
groceries have not doubled in price
after tax income has not shrunk
trump is not the one that invited criminal migrants in
trump is not trying to remove the migrants that actually applied the proper way to want to become american
county judge [unknown] from courthouse in [unknown] town does not have more national power then the president
the country did not elect the judges to create national laws or dictate what a president can do
the president answers to the senate, not some nobody judge from nowhere town

[paxmao]

One of the things which has always made the United States to be different from other countries, in which there is less freedom, is how the population is handled and laws are enforced by trained corps of police officers and not the military, the latter is reserved to deal with threats to the nation and the state itself, and they stay in their barracks and military bases. Now Trump is doing exactly what other authoritarian leaders in Russia, Iran and Venezuela do, they use the military of the country against the people they are supposed to protect. It is move number one and the ABC of authoritarian regimes and anti-democracy.

Let wars be fought by military personnel and the civilians be protected and served by people in blue, that is how it is supposed to work in a working/functioning western democracy.

Thank you. More of "we the people" are waking up because of his use of force. It's about damn time.

It is absolutely incredible that Trump basically provokes a civil conflict in California and then send the army to deal with it. I think he is trying to keep people busy and the 24 hour cycle mentioning this to cover the general disaster that his international politics have been.

And right at that moment you decide to do a military parade which seems to be mostly "in his honour". No wonder it became necessary a "No-kings" demostration.

[BADecker]

The Deep State is deeply embedded in the US government. Trump's activities are aimed at getting the Deep State out of government, even though average people don't realize what is going on.

Illegal activity by the Deep State needs to be punished. Trump is preparing punishment for criminals thinking like they are proceeding correctly... by damaging property and harming people.

[_Miracle]

One of the things which has always made the United States to be different from other countries, in which there is less freedom, is how the population is handled and laws are enforced by trained corps of police officers and not the military, the latter is reserved to deal with threats to the nation and the state itself, and they stay in their barracks and military bases. Now Trump is doing exactly what other authoritarian leaders in Russia, Iran and Venezuela do, they use the military of the country against the people they are supposed to protect. It is move number one and the ABC of authoritarian regimes and anti-democracy.

Let wars be fought by military personnel and the civilians be protected and served by people in blue, that is how it is supposed to work in a working/functioning western democracy.

Thank you. More of "we the people" are waking up because of his use of force. It's about damn time.

It is absolutely incredible that Trump basically provokes a civil conflict in California and then send the army to deal with it. I think he is trying to keep people busy and the 24 hour cycle mentioning this to cover the general disaster that his international politics have been.

And right at that moment you decide to do a military parade which seems to be mostly "in his honour". No wonder it became necessary a "No-kings" demostration.

There will be more. Both small & decentralized and large & organized.
I hope the violence is kept to a minimum and that news focuses on the millions of peaceful protestors instead of "the usual".
 We have a strong military in America and anyone's fantasy about the 2nd amendment as a counter to it are just that [fantasy]. It doesn't mean that 2A'ers aren't going to counter protest and they are showing up :-/

Notice there wasn't a big counter at the parade; it wasn't out of fear but it was a withholding of attention :-).
That they are trying to make us afraid is motivating everyday people     -as it should-
The distraction and noise has been obvious but more mainstream is taking notice too.

Our solders looked lackluster and my small hope is that they are thinking about his wish (and current actions) to use force against us.


Our police department was there to keep us safe from counter protesters and at many others across the country.
This BS about law and order went out the window when he pardoned Jan 6 seditionists.

Thousands of peaceful protests and millions of Americans: It's being archived ...in case ya' know... history gets rewritten as it always does.
Seriously FTD.

Bella Ciao

[_Miracle]

The Deep State is deeply embedded in the US government. Trump's activities are aimed at getting the Deep State out of government, even though average people don't realize what is going on.

Illegal activity by the Deep State needs to be punished. Trump is preparing punishment for criminals thinking like they are proceeding correctly... by damaging property and harming people.

The "Deep State" has long been in a stupor; high on money. They should get clean before a rude awakening happens ;-)
Capitalism is going to eat itself if it makes us consumers too broke or pissed to buy their shit.

[BADecker]

The Deep State is deeply embedded in the US government. Trump's activities are aimed at getting the Deep State out of government, even though average people don't realize what is going on.

Illegal activity by the Deep State needs to be punished. Trump is preparing punishment for criminals thinking like they are proceeding correctly... by damaging property and harming people.

The "Deep State" has long been in a stupor; high on money. They should get clean before a rude awakening happens ;-)
Capitalism is going to eat itself if it makes us consumers too broke or pissed to buy their shit.

Well, other than the definition of 'capitalism', that's true. Even explains it in the Revelation in the Bible, a little. But we don't really know anything about KINGS.

#capri shorts - https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/ancientegypt/shorts

[paxmao]

The Deep State is deeply embedded in the US government. Trump's activities are aimed at getting the Deep State out of government, even though average people don't realize what is going on.

Illegal activity by the Deep State needs to be punished. Trump is preparing punishment for criminals thinking like they are proceeding correctly... by damaging property and harming people.

The "Deep State" has long been in a stupor; high on money. They should get clean before a rude awakening happens ;-)
Capitalism is going to eat itself if it makes us consumers too broke or pissed to buy their shit.

Well, other than the definition of 'capitalism', that's true. Even explains it in the Revelation in the Bible, a little. But we don't really know anything about KINGS.

#capri shorts - https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/ancientegypt/shorts

BA, you know by now everything you need to about Kings. They rule personally, they demote (or sometimes kill) anyone who disagrees, tend to be vengeful and quick on ire. They look for internal and external enemies to justify their rule and tend to claim any victory or "victory" for themselves. They also tend to destroy those who look like could shadow them.

Yes BA, you do have a King in the US.

[franky1]

BA, you know by now everything you need to about Kings. They rule personally, they demote (or sometimes kill) anyone who disagrees, tend to be vengeful and quick on ire. They look for internal and external enemies to justify their rule and tend to claim any victory or "victory" for themselves. They also tend to destroy those who look like could shadow them.

Yes BA, you do have a King in the US.

most kings are actually of the mindset of incest with distant cousins or marrying within the nobles of their land. and inheritance, where by their rule is passed down to their offspring

(UK's ex-prince harry, has been disowned, ex-communicated and denounced out of the royal lineage because his ginger hair matches that of late diana's horse riding instructor, and not king charles dark hair.. and especially because he also married an american, so the lineage to the thrown possibility had to be cut off)

[paxmao]

BA, you know by now everything you need to about Kings. They rule personally, they demote (or sometimes kill) anyone who disagrees, tend to be vengeful and quick on ire. They look for internal and external enemies to justify their rule and tend to claim any victory or "victory" for themselves. They also tend to destroy those who look like could shadow them.

Yes BA, you do have a King in the US.

most kings are actually of the mindset of incest with distant cousins or marrying within the nobles of their land. and inheritance, where by their rule is passed down to their offspring

(UK's ex-prince harry, has been disowned, ex-communicated and denounced out of the royal lineage because his ginger hair matches that of late diana's horse riding instructor, and not king charles dark hair.. and especially because he also married an american, so the lineage to the thrown possibility had to be cut off)

I am not so knowledgeable on the Royals. IMHO all I need to know is that they do not rule in the sense of making laws and that they pay taxes. I know they do not "rule" in the UK, but the Taxes... Curiously one of the richest (if not the richest) in UK does not pay, as far as I know, taxes.

Other than that, the UK "nobility" has all the bad habits, character faults, indecency, lack of humanity and perversity that characterised all their ancestors - which BTW are NOT English, but German.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/house-of-Windsor

The dynastic name Saxe-Coburg-Gotha (German: Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha, or Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha) was that of Victoria’s German-born husband, Albert, prince consort of Great Britain and Ireland. Their eldest son was Edward VII. During the anti-German atmosphere of World War I, George V declared by royal proclamation (July 17, 1917) that all descendants of Queen Victoria in the male line who were also British subjects would adopt the surname Windsor.

Frankly Franky, adding a bodyguard to the lineage could have only improved the family.

[BADecker]

~

Frankly Franky, adding a bodyguard to the lineage could have only improved the family.

Especially if the bodyguard were made up of virgin, unmarried women. Not so much 'inbreeding' that way.

At least Trump and Musk chose women from the outside. If you can afford it, why not? The more loyal subjects, the stronger the kingship.

[franky1]

I am not so knowledgeable on the Royals. IMHO all I need to know is that they do not rule in the sense of making laws and that they pay taxes. I know they do not "rule" in the UK, but the Taxes... Curiously one of the richest (if not the richest) in UK does not pay, as far as I know, taxes.

its more comparable to imagining trump getting to run his trump empire, earning billions, but that revenue goes 100% to IRS to be used for public services and then the trump family paid federal grants of<$100m.
also keeping with the analogy, the trump family have separate investments of lets call it 'baron and eric fund' which earn private income of only $55m untaxed

which in balance to the billions the trump empire generates for the IRS is net benefit to citizens
..
the royals generate billions of revenue that ends up in the treasury and their family live on a share of less than £75m (<$100million) in grants
but they also have private investments too of under £40m ($55m)

the royals are the head of the country but they dont write laws, they just 'final sign off'(royal assent) the laws that went through a process
EG laws that pass through the commons/lords first (comparable house/senate would then need trump to sign off to codify it into law)

obviously the royals can advise on new laws, or push laws through the process bottom up. which those at bottom(commons->lords(house->senate)) usually pass and move up, because customarily if its already green lit at the top already, then those at the bottom just let it through the process with not many challenges

in reality (not analogy)
trump however has an advantage over UK royals.. trump can just write executive orders and his trump empire is not required to be 100% taxed to then live on a government welfare grant

[BADecker]

It's a good thing that Trump knows what is going on. If he didn't, he would be acting like those NO KINGS kings who want to do it their way, but don't really know what is going on.

[paxmao]

I am not so knowledgeable on the Royals. IMHO all I need to know is that they do not rule in the sense of making laws and that they pay taxes. I know they do not "rule" in the UK, but the Taxes... Curiously one of the richest (if not the richest) in UK does not pay, as far as I know, taxes.

its more comparable to imagining trump getting to run his trump empire, earning billions, but that revenue goes 100% to IRS to be used for public services and then the trump family paid federal grants of<$100m.
also keeping with the analogy, the trump family have separate investments of lets call it 'baron and eric fund' which earn private income of only $55m untaxed

which in balance to the billions the trump empire generates for the IRS is net benefit to citizens
..
the royals generate billions of revenue that ends up in the treasury and their family live on a share of less than £75m (<$100million) in grants
but they also have private investments too of under £40m ($55m)

the royals are the head of the country but they dont write laws, they just 'final sign off'(royal assent) the laws that went through a process
EG laws that pass through the commons/lords first (comparable house/senate would then need trump to sign off to codify it into law)

obviously the royals can advise on new laws, or push laws through the process bottom up. which those at bottom(commons->lords(house->senate)) usually pass and move up, because customarily if its already green lit at the top already, then those at the bottom just let it through the process with not many challenges

in reality (not analogy)
trump however has an advantage over UK royals.. trump can just write executive orders and his trump empire is not required to be 100% taxed to then live on a government welfare grant

I would not compare this situations. The Trump do whatever with the money that is for sure, but they do not even need to ... anyone (and everyone) with a clue of what would be announced on "liberation day" could have made a fortune in just an hour. And I am sure they did.

However that hereditary privilige of the UK monarchy ... I do understand the historical context and the historic reasons why they are there, and why the Norwegian King is there, the Spanish, the Belgian... but it is just something that does not fit in a democracy for me. An inherited privilege with a constitution that says all persons are equal before the law??

The Trumps do have inherited weatlh, but that is as fast made as it is lost. Monarchy seems like a permanent privilige. The English one is a particularly expensive one compared to others.

Let's make no mistake - Trump is great at making enemies and these will be there when he is either dead o no longer president for other reasons.

[BADecker]

I am not so knowledgeable on the Royals. IMHO all I need to know is that they do not rule in the sense of making laws and that they pay taxes. I know they do not "rule" in the UK, but the Taxes... Curiously one of the richest (if not the richest) in UK does not pay, as far as I know, taxes.

its more comparable to imagining trump getting to run his trump empire, earning billions, but that revenue goes 100% to IRS to be used for public services and then the trump family paid federal grants of<$100m.
also keeping with the analogy, the trump family have separate investments of lets call it 'baron and eric fund' which earn private income of only $55m untaxed

which in balance to the billions the trump empire generates for the IRS is net benefit to citizens
..
the royals generate billions of revenue that ends up in the treasury and their family live on a share of less than £75m (<$100million) in grants
but they also have private investments too of under £40m ($55m)

the royals are the head of the country but they dont write laws, they just 'final sign off'(royal assent) the laws that went through a process
EG laws that pass through the commons/lords first (comparable house/senate would then need trump to sign off to codify it into law)

obviously the royals can advise on new laws, or push laws through the process bottom up. which those at bottom(commons->lords(house->senate)) usually pass and move up, because customarily if its already green lit at the top already, then those at the bottom just let it through the process with not many challenges

in reality (not analogy)
trump however has an advantage over UK royals.. trump can just write executive orders and his trump empire is not required to be 100% taxed to then live on a government welfare grant

I would not compare this situations. The Trump do whatever with the money that is for sure, but they do not even need to ... anyone (and everyone) with a clue of what would be announced on "liberation day" could have made a fortune in just an hour. And I am sure they did.

However that hereditary privilige of the UK monarchy ... I do understand the historical context and the historic reasons why they are there, and why the Norwegian King is there, the Spanish, the Belgian... but it is just something that does not fit in a democracy for me. An inherited privilege with a constitution that says all persons are equal before the law??

The Trumps do have inherited weatlh, but that is as fast made as it is lost. Monarchy seems like a permanent privilige. The English one is a particularly expensive one compared to others.

Let's make no mistake - Trump is great at making enemies and these will be there when he is either dead o no longer president for other reasons.

Trump makes enemies of the wealthy. You didn't seem to care when Biden essentially stole 100 times from the people as Trump is doing. This indicates that you are, or at least are on the side of, the wealthy.

It might not be so bad if you followed the principle of ENLIGHTENED SELF-INTEREST. But the thing that the wealthy and you are doing through your greed, is destroying the exact same thing that you are trying to build.

[paxmao]

I am not so knowledgeable on the Royals. IMHO all I need to know is that they do not rule in the sense of making laws and that they pay taxes. I know they do not "rule" in the UK, but the Taxes... Curiously one of the richest (if not the richest) in UK does not pay, as far as I know, taxes.

its more comparable to imagining trump getting to run his trump empire, earning billions, but that revenue goes 100% to IRS to be used for public services and then the trump family paid federal grants of<$100m.
also keeping with the analogy, the trump family have separate investments of lets call it 'baron and eric fund' which earn private income of only $55m untaxed

which in balance to the billions the trump empire generates for the IRS is net benefit to citizens
..
the royals generate billions of revenue that ends up in the treasury and their family live on a share of less than £75m (<$100million) in grants
but they also have private investments too of under £40m ($55m)

the royals are the head of the country but they dont write laws, they just 'final sign off'(royal assent) the laws that went through a process
EG laws that pass through the commons/lords first (comparable house/senate would then need trump to sign off to codify it into law)

obviously the royals can advise on new laws, or push laws through the process bottom up. which those at bottom(commons->lords(house->senate)) usually pass and move up, because customarily if its already green lit at the top already, then those at the bottom just let it through the process with not many challenges

in reality (not analogy)
trump however has an advantage over UK royals.. trump can just write executive orders and his trump empire is not required to be 100% taxed to then live on a government welfare grant

I would not compare this situations. The Trump do whatever with the money that is for sure, but they do not even need to ... anyone (and everyone) with a clue of what would be announced on "liberation day" could have made a fortune in just an hour. And I am sure they did.

However that hereditary privilige of the UK monarchy ... I do understand the historical context and the historic reasons why they are there, and why the Norwegian King is there, the Spanish, the Belgian... but it is just something that does not fit in a democracy for me. An inherited privilege with a constitution that says all persons are equal before the law??

The Trumps do have inherited weatlh, but that is as fast made as it is lost. Monarchy seems like a permanent privilige. The English one is a particularly expensive one compared to others.

Let's make no mistake - Trump is great at making enemies and these will be there when he is either dead o no longer president for other reasons.

Trump makes enemies of the wealthy. You didn't seem to care when Biden essentially stole 100 times from the people as Trump is doing. This indicates that you are, or at least are on the side of, the wealthy.

It might not be so bad if you followed the principle of ENLIGHTENED SELF-INTEREST. But the thing that the wealthy and you are doing through your greed, is destroying the exact same thing that you are trying to build.

Yeah sure... he is the grandson of Robin Hood bottle-manufactured with the ADN of Saint Theresa of Calcuta 

He is playing now in the mayor leagues and there is no forgiveness for the looser. His popularity has been sliping among those that you say he "defends". I think most of the dumbs that though that somehow a multi-millionarie born in a family of privilege was actually going to care s*it about the price of beans. Too late.

As said, the well is deep for he who fails - a little bit of lost grip on the Republicans and he will meet the rats at the bottom.