Iran - Israel War

[Fiatless]

I think you misunderstood me. Do you think that the US or Isreal would kill or hurt Iranians if there was an actual agreement between them or if they had agreed earlier to sign the treaty without first letting thing escalate to this point? I'm not trying to justify what the US and Israeli are doing but we all know that things only got to this point because of Iran's refusal and US is only tryna establish some form of dominance and show them who's Boss.

Iran should've known better than thinking they could actually go up against Israel knowing fully well that they are allies with the United States, let's stop playing the pity game, if Iran had more fire power, I'm pretty sure they'd do the same thing that Isreal is doing, this is just a dispute and disputes are meant to be settled, I'm pretty sure if Iran is in full compliance, then Isreal will definitely cease fire.

You need to follow the global news to be able to understand what led to this escalation. Negotiations between the US and Iran concerning Iran's nuclear power were fixed for last Sunday in Oman, and Iran was prepared to attend the meeting. Then on Friday, Israel started bombing Iran after getting permission from the US. So who do you want to blame?  There was no deal that Iran refused to accept because negotiations are just at their early stage. I am guided by nothing but the truth.

[SuperBitMan]

They don't call them the world power for nothing you know.

Without Nukes, the Iranians are holding up their defense pretty well and even fighting back, so imagine if they've got some of those in their Arsenal. The thing about these Nukes is that, you just might not know how much damage those things can inflict. And that's exactly what the US is trying to avoid, using Israel as a camouflage to do their thing and still appear to be appear to be ones proposing peace.

I see that the US isn't really interested in hurting nobody in Iran, thus their reason for proposing a peace talk, if Iran was so interested in putting an end to all the killings  and attacks, then they'll just accept the treaty and then maybe come to reasonable terms with the US and all these would end in no time.

The aggressor here is Israel. There were supposed to be negotiations in a few days about Iran's nuclear programs, but Israel began to attack Iran, kicking some impotent personalities and destroying key infrastructure. If Israel stops attacking, I am sure Iran will also cease fire. But you don't expect Iran to go back to the negotiation when they are under fire.

I am surprised you think the US is not interested in hurting anybody when about 220 Iranians have been killed and more have been wounded. Israel was able to achieve it with the backing of the US.

First Israel made a very big mistake by attacking Iran after a discussion of a negotiation and is very bad, when two people are fighting and they are being told to stop fighting and embrace peace and the other hit the other it shows the one that hit the other still want to fight more, from the action of Israel it is clear that they still want to fight Iran and I really don't know what they will achieve by not stopping, the US government is the world power and as a world power one of the things you should do is to make peace and make sure things don't go out of hand, the US government should find a way and end this war immediately because is not funny anymore, a lot of people has dead and properties has been destroyed.

I really don't know if the US government was the one that carried out the attack on Iran that lead to the killing of 220 Iranians, however since the US government is of the biggest support of Israel is possible they helped out in the attack but no one is still very sure of it, but if truly the US government is involved then I'm highly disappointed at them.

[hellflame]

The moves are slow... so, what will the next one be?

Well so far we have both Russia and Israel drawn into the snare so once China acts "suddenly and unexpectedly" then the firestarters will become the fireofficers. "Interesting times" are coming all the while tptb have the ready made solutions prepared for the economic and social cataclysms that will erupt during the escalated wars. There are even suggestions of unknown and untested warfare methods being tested during this next global warfare expedition. Some might say one will only know once the dust settles but the dust from some of these things will do a whole lot of destruction before its dust settles. Could be just a conspiracy theory though.

[Tungbulu]

You need to follow the global news to be able to understand what led to this escalation. Negotiations between the US and Iran concerning Iran's nuclear power were fixed for last Sunday in Oman, and Iran was prepared to attend the meeting. Then on Friday, Israel started bombing Iran after getting permission from the US. So who do you want to blame?  There was no deal that Iran refused to accept because negotiations are just at their early stage. I am guided by nothing but the truth.

Your comments clearly shows that you're not aware of  Trump's brief phone call with CNN on Friday, where he clearly stated that he gave Iran a 60 days warning, which was before the matter escalated to this point. All these started after Iran ignored Trump's warning. Do you still think that US is to blame for acting after 61 days of being ignored? Get your facts right

[Negotiation]

It seems to me, and many are saying, that if the Iran-Israel War continues, a third world war could break out very soon. Many are making all sorts of assumptions, but the reality is that Israel attacked first and Iran has suffered the most damage so far.

No country in the world has yet taken steps to resolve this conflict. This may be due to international politics and the dominance of the Middle East. We may have to wait a few more days to understand the full situation.

[franky1]

No country in the world has yet taken steps to resolve this conflict. This may be due to international politics and the dominance of the Middle East. We may have to wait a few more days to understand the full situation.

countries have been trying to get iran to agree to continued peace deals, but iran have shown intentions to exit the deals and to instead build nukes
just last week there was a planned meeting, iran declined the invite.
isreal knows iran wants to wipe out isreal. so isreal didnt randomly fire at iran, it surgically struck the leaders, scientists and facilities related to the nuclear programs. to prevent iran from nuclear holocaust

iran retaliated with randomly firing at non specific targets
iran now want to pretend to want a ceasefire to make it appear that isreal are the bad guys..

iran is losing soo much military resources and has their nuclear and fossil fuel economy/resources being ruined.. setting them back multiple years

isreal continues to take out specific infrastructure to ensure iran cant keep up the conflict until 2040 (length of war iran suggested desires of)
iran will eventually realise they will soon have only one option.. agree to peace

if iran wants to prosper economically and gain trade partners and develop, peace is the only option, not war

[MainIbem]

The sole craftmanship of the entire plan is the US. They have their own weapons, but the ones made known and the ones unknown to us. Germany China, the European countries have their own weapons which I believe every great nation should have a strong defense weapon. But the US are scared, why Iran had been developing the nuclear weapons.

It is not obvious to me that there are countries who don't want others to leave in peace. It can't be possible for one nation to rule the world, if that is what Trump has come to do then he is going to fail.

They don't call them the world power for nothing you know.

Without Nukes, the Iranians are holding up their defense pretty well and even fighting back, so imagine if they've got some of those in their Arsenal. The thing about these Nukes is that, you just might not know how much damage those things can inflict. And that's exactly what the US is trying to avoid, using Israel as a camouflage to do their thing and still appear to be appear to be ones proposing peace.

I see that the US isn't really interested in hurting nobody in Iran, thus their reason for proposing a peace talk, if Iran was so interested in putting an end to all the killings  and attacks, then they'll just accept the treaty and then maybe come to reasonable terms with the US and all these would end in no time.

It would be tough for Israel or the US to achieve their aim without a war cause Iran won't back down  on their project they've been on it for years and spent billions to try be among the nuclear war heads so Trump can't dictate for them concerning that, not at this point, and not forcefully, I know they're scared that Iran might use it against their neighbors (Israel) if they succeed in producing more nukes, maybe for a retaliation for killing the Hezbollah and Hamas generals, and making several Palestinians homeless, but destroying Iran's  facilities, killing scientists, and those generals wasn't a good way to go about it cause the result was a retaliation by Iran and further destruction from both parties. What the world need is peace wars causes death and destruction and the innocent people suffer the most while war mongers would still continue to live afterwards.

[WhoYouCantKill]

It would be tough for Israel or the US to achieve their aim without a war cause Iran won't back down  on their project they've been on it for years and spent billions to try be among the nuclear war heads so Trump can't dictate for them concerning that, not at this point, and not forcefully, I know they're scared that Iran might use it against their neighbors (Israel) if they succeed in producing more nukes, maybe for a retaliation for killing the Hezbollah and Hamas generals, and making several Palestinians homeless, but destroying Iran's  facilities, killing scientists, and those generals wasn't a good way to go about it cause the result was a retaliation by Iran and further destruction from both parties. What the world need is peace wars causes death and destruction and the innocent people suffer the most while war mongers would still continue to live afterwards.

Sure, I share in your view. War is a barbaric way of settling dispute, because the strong will always impose their will on the weak. And it also shows that the leaders are only interested in their own personal and selfish interests without considerating their citizens which is meant to be their responsibility. It only shows that they really don't care about them and they'll be willing to put them into harm's way just to achieve their aim, and this is a very barbaric way of thinking, and we should've outgrown this mindset and sort for more amicable way of resolving conflicts such as this

[Rabata]

Israel does not have the power to fight Iran, but when America supports them, they have started a war without any warning. In this war Israel is not fighting but to America. Such attacks should be strongly condemned. But the powerful countries of the world are still not reacting to it as expected. Iran is power full in the Middle East, which is why America will not allow the country to remain normal in any way. The country is using Israel instead of going to war directly. Although this picture is not new. America is using Ukraine instead of fighting directly with Russia, the situation with Iran is the same with Israel. The war will continue and ordinary people's lives will be lost. Just as America destroyed Iraq, they want to destroy Iran as well. I want Russia and China to come together urgently to end this war.

[Fiatless]

You need to follow the global news to be able to understand what led to this escalation. Negotiations between the US and Iran concerning Iran's nuclear power were fixed for last Sunday in Oman, and Iran was prepared to attend the meeting. Then on Friday, Israel started bombing Iran after getting permission from the US. So who do you want to blame?  There was no deal that Iran refused to accept because negotiations are just at their early stage. I am guided by nothing but the truth.

Your comments clearly shows that you're not aware of  Trump's brief phone call with CNN on Friday, where he clearly stated that he gave Iran a 60 days warning, which was before the matter escalated to this point. All these started after Iran ignored Trump's warning. Do you still think that US is to blame for acting after 61 days of being ignored? Get your facts right

This will be my last post regarding your position.  Firstly, the US government denied that they were aware of the attacks because they are aware that negotiations were going on. Secondly, Trump is now claiming that he gave Iran the chance to negotiation while the US was part of the negotiations. Thirdly, you cannot attack a party when you are already having a meeting to settle the issue. My point is that why attack a country that is willing to negotiate? It would have been fair to wait until after the negotiations.

The strikes came the morning after news broke that the sixth round of the US-Iran nuclear talks would take place in Oman Sunday, with US President Donald Trump’s special envoy Steve Witkoff set to hold another round of indirect negotiations with Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi.

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20250613-why-did-israel-attack-iran-in-the-middle-of-us-iran-nuclear-talks

[franky1]

This will be my last post regarding your position.  Firstly, the US government denied that they were aware of the attacks because they are aware that negotiations were going on. Secondly, Trump is now claiming that he gave Iran the chance to negotiation while the US was part of the negotiations. Thirdly, you cannot attack a party when you are already having a meeting to settle the issue. My point is that why attack a country that is willing to negotiate? It would have been fair to wait until after the negotiations.

to correct you...
there was a peace deal negotiation meeting set for the 15th june
however the week before

iran announced it wanted to make nukes,
iran admitted it had facilities capable to make nukes which the inspectors did not know about
thus breaching the NPT

this heightened the threat to isreal
isreal did not announce that they would strike on any certain day, just that there could be strikes happening soon followed by iranian retaliation if iran did not agree to continued negotiations.. so advised the US to remove ambassadors from embassies just incase. so trump did not know of a date to attack iran nor a certainty it would happen, but had the warning of the possibility

iran then during the week declined to attend the upcoming peace deal negotiation meeting set for that weekend
this was the last straw for isreal, as iran kept announcing their desire to create nukes and wanting death to isreal and america.

isreal then struck irans facilities and personnel related to nuclear refining.. iran retaliated, and today iran did actually strike a us embassy

even now iran is sending mixed messages, they want a ceasefire, but also the same day claiming they will continue fighting until 2040 whereby there will no longer be any of isreal left

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the schedule of the meeting was set way earlier then the strike..
(monday 9th)

During a press briefing Monday evening, Foreign Ministry spokesperson Esmaeil Baghaei revealed that after ongoing consultations, the next session of indirect negotiations between Iran and the United States is scheduled for this coming Sunday in Oman's capital.

the strikes happened when iran declined to attend the meeting
iran declined to the meeting before friday. the strikes started on friday

[montaga]

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You need to follow the global news to be able to understand what led to this escalation.
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What global news did you watch to understand what is happening?

[franky1]

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You need to follow the global news to be able to understand what led to this escalation.
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What global news did you watch to understand what is happening?

getting bias one sided propaganda puts people in a echo chamber of confirmation bias by being ignorant to all the facts and only picking info that confirms their beliefs

if you cant take yourself out of your own box and play devils advocate to atleast see the info that opposes your views, you will never learn the depth of the details of fact. you will just spiral in your own echo chamber of narrow minded thought

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take the issue of some that call isreal "palestine" instead of calling gaza "palestine".. it just shows they dont even know the land claim history
(isrealites vs philistines in canaan region)

by only searching via keyword "palestine" they will only get iran proxy siding propaganda pretending isreal is palestine

by just changing some search terms to get get a broader view of both sides and then be more informed to make a independent decision which might actually counter your previous beleifs

[OgNasty]

I haven't been following this war as much as I should.  Mostly because everywhere I look it is some whiny liberal spouting off some nonsense so it makes me not even want to pay attention.  I just hope this war ends.  After seeing the stock market shrug off the whole thing, I think the rest of the world feels the same way.  Everyone is tired of this stuff.  They need to just get all new leaders in the middle east that can play nice together and come to solutions.  The people need to start being responsible for themselves.  US shouldn't be arming either side.

[pooya87]

I haven't been following this war as much as I should.

Well Trump is wasting at least $1 billion trying to launch a dozen SM-3 missiles at a time which worth up to $40 million to intercept a single missile out of hundreds Iran launches at Israel every day and it is the 4th day that Iran is bombing Israel like this.

And you wonder why you have a trillion dollar budget deficit and they keep cutting the funding for different sectors to cover that...

[franky1]

I haven't been following this war as much as I should.

Well Trump is wasting at least $1 billion trying to launch a dozen SM-3 missiles at a time which worth up to $40 million to intercept a single missile out of hundreds Iran launches at Israel every day and it is the 4th day that Iran is bombing Israel like this.

And you wonder why you have a trillion dollar budget deficit and they keep cutting the funding for different sectors to cover that...

One of the batches launched tonight:

wrong yet again
the image is from iran launching missiles to attack isreal october last year
https://youtu.be/4cIxPSQvtfU?t=15
https://www.mtv.com.lb/en/News/International/1494031/watch--the-moment-iranian-missiles-were-launched

[uchegod-21]

Why war?
Why US?
What is the interest?
Trump assumed the office of the United States president with the promise to end Russia - Ukraine war. He couldn't do this .
Today, we are talking about Iran - Israel war and US is in the clear picture.
Why war?
What exactly are they fighting for?
Peace is priceless, can't it be attained?

[BADecker]

I haven't been following this war as much as I should.

Well Trump is wasting at least $1 billion trying to launch a dozen SM-3 missiles at a time which worth up to $40 million to intercept a single missile out of hundreds Iran launches at Israel every day and it is the 4th day that Iran is bombing Israel like this.

And you wonder why you have a trillion dollar budget deficit and they keep cutting the funding for different sectors to cover that...

The West bases their strength on their fiat contracts with the people. The thing that will break the West is when the people find that 'Do It Yourself' is more profitable than buying stuff through fiat contracts. The people are finding this out already. Things like an advanced form of Bitcoin will make it possible for the PEOPLE to bypass fiat. Then the West will collapse... but the PEOPLE won't, because there is a big difference between the PEOPLE and the West.

[zenaku]

Why war?
Why US?
What is the interest?
Trump assumed the office of the United States president with the promise to end Russia - Ukraine war. He couldn't do this .
Today, we are talking about Iran - Israel war and US is in the clear picture.
Why war?
What exactly are they fighting for?
Peace is priceless, can't it be attained?

War is about learning the other’s weapons — a laboratory (to find out what Iran has).
The United States is an empire; it expands, needs land, funds wars, and then conquers — that’s its modus operandi.
Its interest lies in control, remaining the richest, and moving large amounts of money through weapons.
Yes, Trump lied.
Peace is possible, but the attitudes of the U.S. make it impossible.

[Jaycoinz]

Hey Community!

The USA has been saying that it wants a peace deal with Iran, and the middle country was Oman. They are supposed to be in a meeting this Sunday (today) on Mascot regarding the peace deal. But suddenly out of nowhere, Israel attacked Iran and killed 9 Nuclear scientists and a couple of high officials. Some people are saying Iran does not want peace.

Well, if so, why did Israel attack Iran while they were supposed to be in a meeting in two days? At first, the USA said they didn't know anything about this attack. A day later, Trump said he knew everything and that the attack happened using US weapons.

The so-called peace deal meeting was just in case Iran refuses to talk, so they can blame Iran. The plan was that, no matter if Iran agrees or not, the USA will attack Iran using Israel. Israel attacked four countries in the last seven days. What do they want, actually? Peace, or some pieces of these countries?

I don't really understand where the world itself is headed to are all these political dickheads trying to bring back world war that reshaped and claimed the life's of millions of human ? Be it Iran, Israel or USA what they all should be considering is that the lives of their citizens is at stake and all these shenanigans are nothing but extra course for power that is absolutely pointless.