Iran - Israel War

[paxmao]

Isreal has been pedaling the idea of Iran being on the verge of creating nuclear
weapons for 20 odd years.

Even the majority of Americans know that the news of Iran developing a nuclear weapon on weeks was a lie told to attack Iran. The US intelligence community affirmed that the government of Iran has not ordered the restart of the suspended nuclear weapons programme. King Trump disputed the reports of the country's intelligence because he wanted to start a war. Now Tulsi Gabbard has been forced to contradict her testimony before Congress because an emperor has forced her to lie.

The problem is that there are several reports of the IAEA, which are less than a decade old and tend to be quite factual saying that Iran has been effective developing the technologies required for a missile launched nuclear weapon. Please note "missile launched", which is much more difficult than other ways of delivering.

If Iran is close to the objective or not close to the objective is relatively irrelevant - what does matter is that they have been playing cat and mouse and eventually may reach their goal.

Such a goal is unnacceptable for Israel, the US and to others  - again not today, not in a week, not in a year. Build a new nuclear programme, keep calling for the destruction of Israel and you will get a war.

So can we conclude that the report from the US intelligence community is wrong? A country should not be bombarded based on mere speculations. The same thing happened in Iraq when George W. Bush claimed the country had reconstituted nuclear weapons. Bush led the US to attack Iraq even when intelligence and other U.S. officials didn't find any substantial evidence that the accusation was true. Did they find any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?

We can conclude that it does not matter. Not in one year, not in one week, not ever. Again, Israel will do everything necessary to stop Iran from having nukes. If they have to cause the collapse of the regime, Israel will do so (or at least try to).

The problem is not WHEN the problem is that it cannot happen.

Now the GBU-51 (a bunker busting bomb) has been used from an US B2, so the US is now at war with Iran.

No, Ruzzia will not come to the rescue, because they can't (too busy). That is the problem when you plan a war in "two weeks" and comes out at several years of pain and economic waste.

[arzuo]

I believe all US is tryna do is prevent Iran from acquiring Nuclear power/war head, thus their reason for attacking Iran's nuclear scientists. I don't know what the US reasons are for not wanting Iran to own a nuclear war head, but what I know is that they're not the only ones who wants that. And I believe their terms was, if Iran was ready to make peace or comply with the US, they'd abandon their interests in owning a nuclear war head.

America actually wants to rule the Arab world and for that they are using Israel as part of a strategy and protecting all kinds of their interests.

[o48o]

This is so embarrassing, did he just said "Now is the time for peace"? This does not look like peace, why do I smell war between US and Iran, now Russian can join in and support Iran since US has taking a massive striker at Iran.
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It's literal newspeak propaganda from the book "1984": "War is peace", "Freedom is slavery" and "Ignorance is strength".

If there would be any consistency with maga-hat conspiratards, they would now declare that Trump is the Deep State, but because it's always projection with qanon and maga, they just wanted to build a Deep State themselves (which didn't even exist before). And with trump's crime trackrecord, it's most likely for the purposes they were claiming it to exist.

Projection all the way:

[franky1]

i can tell whom are the gen z, gen alpha types..

the young with lack of life experience and only thoughts come from social media
the young that have never lived in a time of war(not even born before/during the 1990's gulf war era)
the young that dont learn about history because their school history teacher was more interested in selling the history of transgender-ism positives to kids

and the most important
the young who have never experienced an adult giving them a quick slap across the back of the head, and being told to stop messing around

when you are hit just once in a spot that really hurts.. and realise your not going to win the argument. you soon learn to shut up, sit down and give up the fight
you learn quick to not earn a second slap
..
those pretending iran won something this month.
those pretending iran deserves to now declare world war on many countries
those pretending iran deserves russia and china to buddy up with...
.. need to learn that iran had the slap across the back of the head last night.. its time iran shut up, sit down and give up the fight

sign the peace deal, get some sanctions lifted so iran can rebuild and prosper economically(not militarily) PEACEFULLY

[suchmoon]

Once again, I'm looking forward to see steaming pretzels from the "Trump will end all wars" muppets... fart of the deal innit.

[DaRude]

i can tell whom are the gen z, gen alpha types..

the young with lack of life experience and only thoughts come from social media
the young that have never lived in a time of war(not even born before/during the 1990's gulf war era)
the young that dont learn about history because their school history teacher was more interested in selling the history of transgender-ism positives to kids

and the most important
the young who have never experienced an adult giving them a quick slap across the back of the head, and being told to stop messing around

when you are hit just once in a spot that really hurts.. and realise your not going to win the argument. you soon learn to shut up, sit down and give up the fight
you learn quick to not earn a second slap
..
those pretending iran won something this month.
those pretending iran deserves to now declare world war on many countries
those pretending iran deserves russia and china to buddy up with...
.. need to learn that iran had the slap across the back of the head last night.. its time iran shut up, sit down and give up the fight

sign the peace deal, get some sanctions lifted so iran can rebuild and prosper economically(not militarily) PEACEFULLY

Yes let's totally ignore who's buying all of that Iranian oil, and pretend total control over middle east doesn't provide US a huge advantage. Nukes? Strike on an embassy? whatever the thinktanks report is more palatable for population. Thing is China are not idiots, all they care is that the regime that sells them oil which is not controlled by US stands, thus US assurances of limited strike. Netanyahu stays out of jail a bit longer, Trump gets his little military victory, Iran regime stands, consolidates and rallies around the flag, China gets bigger control in Iran, Russia gets higher oil prices, everyone wins.

 

[khiholangkang]

Once again, I'm looking forward to see steaming pretzels from the "Trump will end all wars" muppets... fart of the deal innit.

Israel has succeeded in dragging Trump and the United States to jump directly into this conflict, previously saying that a decision on the conflict would be taken in the next two weeks, but in reality the United States has just launched an attack on Iran by destroying three Iranian nuclear sites, calling it a peace operation, but how can peace be created if it is done by threatening and carrying out direct attacks on Iran. And this makes Iran close the diplomatic route to the US, establish the US as Iran's main enemy after Israel, US military bases in the Middle East will be Iran's main target to be destroyed, and threaten to close the Strait of Hormuz which is the most important trade route in the world.

Currently Iran is planning a strategy to carry out a retaliatory attack on the United States, so let's just wait and see how exciting this war is.

[tvbcof]

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Currently Iran is planning a strategy to carry out a retaliatory attack on the United States, so let's just wait and see how exciting this war is.

A smart move on Iran's part would be to _respond_ to anything by anybody with strikes specifically on Israel.  Most of the rest of the civilized world would cheer every strike since Israel is so hated due to their Gaza genocide and other things.  Even the U.S. at the street level since more and more people are waking up and becoming resentful that Israel controls the U.S..

The idea would be to keep the enemy on alert and under strain for an extended period of time.  Hopefully this will ultimately lead to depletion of resources, the collapse of political leaderships, and economic collapse.

Once Israel-targeted responses became the norm for the U.S., 'collective West', and associated Israel-controlled gulf states to expect missiles to target semi-random things in Israel, they would let down their guards making effective strikes against them more practical.

One of the main reasons that the U.S. attacked was that they need an excuse for their own upcoming economic collapse.  They hope to blame it on high energy prices caused by Iran.  Ergo, it is best for Iran to avoid becoming a scapegoat by blanket targeting of energy.  At least for now.

[BADecker]

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Currently Iran is planning a strategy to carry out a retaliatory attack on the United States, so let's just wait and see how exciting this war is.

A smart move on Iran's part would be to _respond_ to anything by anybody with strikes specifically on Israel.  Most of the rest of the civilized world would cheer every strike since Israel is so hated due to their Gaza genocide and other things.  Even the U.S. at the street level since more and more people are waking up and becoming resentful that Israel controls the U.S..

The idea would be to keep the enemy on alert and under strain for an extended period of time.  Hopefully this will ultimately lead to depletion of resources, the collapse of political leaderships, and economic collapse.

Once Israel-targeted responses became the norm for the U.S., 'collective West', and associated Israel-controlled gulf states to expect missiles to target semi-random things in Israel, they would let down their guards making effective strikes against them more practical.

One of the main reasons that the U.S. attacked was that they need an excuse for their own upcoming economic collapse.  They hope to blame it on high energy prices caused by Iran.  Ergo, it is best for Iran to avoid becoming a scapegoat by blanket targeting of energy.  At least for now.

This is the calm before the storm, especially financially.     

[paxmao]

i can tell whom are the gen z, gen alpha types..

the young with lack of life experience and only thoughts come from social media
the young that have never lived in a time of war(not even born before/during the 1990's gulf war era)
the young that dont learn about history because their school history teacher was more interested in selling the history of transgender-ism positives to kids

and the most important
the young who have never experienced an adult giving them a quick slap across the back of the head, and being told to stop messing around

when you are hit just once in a spot that really hurts.. and realise your not going to win the argument. you soon learn to shut up, sit down and give up the fight
you learn quick to not earn a second slap
..
those pretending iran won something this month.
those pretending iran deserves to now declare world war on many countries
those pretending iran deserves russia and china to buddy up with...
.. need to learn that iran had the slap across the back of the head last night.. its time iran shut up, sit down and give up the fight

sign the peace deal, get some sanctions lifted so iran can rebuild and prosper economically(not militarily) PEACEFULLY

Yes let's totally ignore who's buying all of that Iranian oil, and pretend total control over middle east doesn't provide US a huge advantage. Nukes? Strike on an embassy? whatever the thinktanks report is more palatable for population. Thing is China are not idiots, all they care is that the regime that sells them oil which is not controlled by US stands, thus US assurances of limited strike. Netanyahu stays out of jail a bit longer, Trump gets his little military victory, Iran regime stands, consolidates and rallies around the flag, China gets bigger control in Iran, Russia gets higher oil prices, everyone wins.

 

Again, it does not matter if it is today, tomorrow or in a year. There is a nuclear programme, the intention is to create a nuclear warhead that can be missile launched. There are documents of the IAEA explicitly saying so.

WHY WOULD YOU NEED TO WAIT ANY MORE TO "CLOSE IT"

[DaRude]

i can tell whom are the gen z, gen alpha types..

the young with lack of life experience and only thoughts come from social media
the young that have never lived in a time of war(not even born before/during the 1990's gulf war era)
the young that dont learn about history because their school history teacher was more interested in selling the history of transgender-ism positives to kids

and the most important
the young who have never experienced an adult giving them a quick slap across the back of the head, and being told to stop messing around

when you are hit just once in a spot that really hurts.. and realise your not going to win the argument. you soon learn to shut up, sit down and give up the fight
you learn quick to not earn a second slap
..
those pretending iran won something this month.
those pretending iran deserves to now declare world war on many countries
those pretending iran deserves russia and china to buddy up with...
.. need to learn that iran had the slap across the back of the head last night.. its time iran shut up, sit down and give up the fight

sign the peace deal, get some sanctions lifted so iran can rebuild and prosper economically(not militarily) PEACEFULLY

Yes let's totally ignore who's buying all of that Iranian oil, and pretend total control over middle east doesn't provide US a huge advantage. Nukes? Strike on an embassy? whatever the thinktanks report is more palatable for population. Thing is China are not idiots, all they care is that the regime that sells them oil which is not controlled by US stands, thus US assurances of limited strike. Netanyahu stays out of jail a bit longer, Trump gets his little military victory, Iran regime stands, consolidates and rallies around the flag, China gets bigger control in Iran, Russia gets higher oil prices, everyone wins.

 

Again, it does not matter if it is today, tomorrow or in a year. There is a nuclear programme, the intention is to create a nuclear warhead that can be missile launched. There are documents of the IAEA explicitly saying so.

WHY WOULD YOU NEED TO WAIT ANY MORE TO "CLOSE IT"

Propaganda or cite IAEA report saying Iran's intention is to have nuclear warhead that can be missile launched. In fact Grossi told CNN said that U.N. inspectors did not have proof that Iran was engaged in “a systematic effort to move into a nuclear weapon.”

But who needs any proof or UN involvement when it's just easier to accuse and attack.

Acquired knowledge cannot be forgotten or bombed out, they'll just build new centrifuges even deeper, so boots on the ground and attempting to create a failed state out of Iran is really the only option. The big question is whether China will allow that to happen, to one if it's largest oil suppliers, can you imagine US standing by if someone attacked Saudis? So i think we all know the answer to that. So drop few bombs call it a PR victory, and everything just continues to how it was before.

[paxmao]

i can tell whom are the gen z, gen alpha types..

the young with lack of life experience and only thoughts come from social media
the young that have never lived in a time of war(not even born before/during the 1990's gulf war era)
the young that dont learn about history because their school history teacher was more interested in selling the history of transgender-ism positives to kids

and the most important
the young who have never experienced an adult giving them a quick slap across the back of the head, and being told to stop messing around

when you are hit just once in a spot that really hurts.. and realise your not going to win the argument. you soon learn to shut up, sit down and give up the fight
you learn quick to not earn a second slap
..
those pretending iran won something this month.
those pretending iran deserves to now declare world war on many countries
those pretending iran deserves russia and china to buddy up with...
.. need to learn that iran had the slap across the back of the head last night.. its time iran shut up, sit down and give up the fight

sign the peace deal, get some sanctions lifted so iran can rebuild and prosper economically(not militarily) PEACEFULLY

Yes let's totally ignore who's buying all of that Iranian oil, and pretend total control over middle east doesn't provide US a huge advantage. Nukes? Strike on an embassy? whatever the thinktanks report is more palatable for population. Thing is China are not idiots, all they care is that the regime that sells them oil which is not controlled by US stands, thus US assurances of limited strike. Netanyahu stays out of jail a bit longer, Trump gets his little military victory, Iran regime stands, consolidates and rallies around the flag, China gets bigger control in Iran, Russia gets higher oil prices, everyone wins.

 

Again, it does not matter if it is today, tomorrow or in a year. There is a nuclear programme, the intention is to create a nuclear warhead that can be missile launched. There are documents of the IAEA explicitly saying so.

WHY WOULD YOU NEED TO WAIT ANY MORE TO "CLOSE IT"

Propaganda or cite IAEA report saying Iran's intention is to have nuclear warhead that can be missile launched. In fact Grossi told CNN said that U.N. inspectors did not have proof that Iran was engaged in “a systematic effort to move into a nuclear weapon.”

But who needs any proof or UN involvement when it's just easier to accuse and attack.

Acquired knowledge cannot be forgotten or bombed out, they'll just build new centrifuges even deeper, so boots on the ground and attempting to create a failed state out of Iran is really the only option. The big question is whether China will allow that to happen, to one if it's largest oil suppliers, can you imagine US standing by if someone attacked Saudis? So i think we all know the answer to that. So drop few bombs call it a PR victory, and everything just continues to how it was before.

Oh, I see, so your argument is that "Iran is not close to develop a weapon" and now you go directly to "Iran does not have a nuclear weapon development programme"?

And according to you, we should trust the Ayatolahs about their pacific intentios on the use of nuclear technology? Is that what you are saying?

So Theran says "oh, no no... we want to destroy Israel, like we say nearly every day, but... no, we will not develop the weapons to do so"?

You must be joking dude.

The IAEA is as good as it gets in terms of (a) knowing (b) being in the terrain (c) as neutral as it gets.

But, and this may be the simplest way of knowing - Iran is negotiating saying clearly that they want to keep their nuclear programe. Iran has several bunkerised facilities - they do not even deny - that do have fisile material and they are denying access for inspection. I would not need any further clues.

So, thank you, but even if there is any doubt about Iran's intentions - and there is not - the safe route is to blast every one of those sites and hopefully also change the government.

So... sorry Da, this is another Ruzzian friend that is going to have its own share of trouble - which is what actually you care about.

[DaRude]

i can tell whom are the gen z, gen alpha types..

the young with lack of life experience and only thoughts come from social media
the young that have never lived in a time of war(not even born before/during the 1990's gulf war era)
the young that dont learn about history because their school history teacher was more interested in selling the history of transgender-ism positives to kids

and the most important
the young who have never experienced an adult giving them a quick slap across the back of the head, and being told to stop messing around

when you are hit just once in a spot that really hurts.. and realise your not going to win the argument. you soon learn to shut up, sit down and give up the fight
you learn quick to not earn a second slap
..
those pretending iran won something this month.
those pretending iran deserves to now declare world war on many countries
those pretending iran deserves russia and china to buddy up with...
.. need to learn that iran had the slap across the back of the head last night.. its time iran shut up, sit down and give up the fight

sign the peace deal, get some sanctions lifted so iran can rebuild and prosper economically(not militarily) PEACEFULLY

Yes let's totally ignore who's buying all of that Iranian oil, and pretend total control over middle east doesn't provide US a huge advantage. Nukes? Strike on an embassy? whatever the thinktanks report is more palatable for population. Thing is China are not idiots, all they care is that the regime that sells them oil which is not controlled by US stands, thus US assurances of limited strike. Netanyahu stays out of jail a bit longer, Trump gets his little military victory, Iran regime stands, consolidates and rallies around the flag, China gets bigger control in Iran, Russia gets higher oil prices, everyone wins.

 

Again, it does not matter if it is today, tomorrow or in a year. There is a nuclear programme, the intention is to create a nuclear warhead that can be missile launched. There are documents of the IAEA explicitly saying so.

WHY WOULD YOU NEED TO WAIT ANY MORE TO "CLOSE IT"

Propaganda or cite IAEA report saying Iran's intention is to have nuclear warhead that can be missile launched. In fact Grossi told CNN said that U.N. inspectors did not have proof that Iran was engaged in “a systematic effort to move into a nuclear weapon.”

But who needs any proof or UN involvement when it's just easier to accuse and attack.

Acquired knowledge cannot be forgotten or bombed out, they'll just build new centrifuges even deeper, so boots on the ground and attempting to create a failed state out of Iran is really the only option. The big question is whether China will allow that to happen, to one if it's largest oil suppliers, can you imagine US standing by if someone attacked Saudis? So i think we all know the answer to that. So drop few bombs call it a PR victory, and everything just continues to how it was before.

Oh, I see, so your argument is that "Iran is not close to develop a weapon" and now you go directly to "Iran does not have a nuclear weapon development programme"?

And according to you, we should trust the Ayatolahs about their pacific intentios on the use of nuclear technology? Is that what you are saying?

So Theran says "oh, no no... we want to destroy Israel, like we say nearly every day, but... no, we will not develop the weapons to do so"?

You must be joking dude.

The IAEA is as good as it gets in terms of (a) knowing (b) being in the terrain (c) as neutral as it gets.

But, and this may be the simplest way of knowing - Iran is negotiating saying clearly that they want to keep their nuclear programe. Iran has several bunkerised facilities - they do not even deny - that do have fisile material and they are denying access for inspection. I would not need any further clues.

So, thank you, but even if there is any doubt about Iran's intentions - and there is not - the safe route is to blast every one of those sites and hopefully also change the government.

So... sorry Da, this is another Ruzzian friend that is going to have its own share of trouble - which is what actually you care about.

Israel is denying access to UN inspectors into their whole country, but i'm sure someone can find justifications for that. If everyone already knows, why do you think Israel and US is lying about Israel having nukes?

Like i told you multiple times, all of this including Ukraine, is all about spheres of influence. Iran is a thorn and US would love nothing more than get a regime that it can control, justifications don't really matter here, but it doesn't look like China will allow that. I'd rather Iran be independent regional power but looks like it's pushed fully right into China's arms.

US urges China to dissuade Iran from closing Strait of Hormuz gets the orange one a short term victory but a h'uuuge strategical mistake for US in long term. EU is fucked as usual with their sanctions lol

[YADAYADA]

You lot here who think Israel and the US are the cause of these escalations have no idea who is the cause of us being steered towards world war 3. The real powers that be ensured oct 7 happened and ensured Israel had little or no choice but to react and ensure it was beneficial on a personal level for some people to escalate to keep wolves that had been at their door off their back also. Israel was literally given no choice but to go in this direction and President Trump has made a bold and daring decision that could possibly put an end to the powers that be plans to drag the whole world into the abyss by hitting the nuclear facilities and in turn making the ayatollah's decision for him so he can also save face and make peace without any of the hard liners around him anymore because they are out of the picture. Forget about 3D chess because this president is thinking way beyond that and had quite literally put a stumbling block in the plans of the people who were planning WW3 whether you believe it or not. These same people will now try for option B where they can convince the other beligerents to go to war instead of seeing the bigger picture here in how President Trump has in one move given the Ayatollah an easier exit strategy from this provocative nuclear manifesto into one of a prosperous and cooperative future should he act wisely while maintaining his pride and dignity.

Anyone bitching about the president needs a reality check and step outside of their bubble for a moment to understand nothing is as it seems and the president is literally putting the world first at this stage in trying to bring an end to this nuclear program. North Korea et al should all step away from this madness and then the world should completely disarm from nuclear weapons.

Thank you Mr President!

[DaRude]

You lot here who think Israel and the US are the cause of these escalations have no idea who is the cause of us being steered towards world war 3. The real powers that be ensured oct 7 happened and ensured Israel had little or no choice but to react and ensure it was beneficial on a personal level for some people to escalate to keep wolves that had been at their door off their back also. Israel was literally given no choice but to go in this direction and President Trump has made a bold and daring decision that could possibly put an end to the powers that be plans to drag the whole world into the abyss by hitting the nuclear facilities and in turn making the ayatollah's decision for him so he can also save face and make peace without any of the hard liners around him anymore because they are out of the picture. Forget about 3D chess because this president is thinking way beyond that and had quite literally put a stumbling block in the plans of the people who were planning WW3 whether you believe it or not. These same people will now try for option B where they can convince the other beligerents to go to war instead of seeing the bigger picture here in how President Trump has in one move given the Ayatollah an easier exit strategy from this provocative nuclear manifesto into one of a prosperous and cooperative future should he act wisely while maintaining his pride and dignity.

Anyone bitching about the president needs a reality check and step outside of their bubble for a moment to understand nothing is as it seems and the president is literally putting the world first at this stage in trying to bring an end to this nuclear program. North Korea et al should all step away from this madness and then the world should completely disarm from nuclear weapons.

Thank you Mr President!

Because Israel lost 1.200 innocent civilians in a terrorist attack, it had no choice but to murder close to 60.000 innocent civilians and keeps murdering more every day. And now US must ask China to keep strait of Hormuz open, or US has to enter into open war with boots on the ground? Yes we all believe, great thinking, all praise the tan man, and if we get few more noob accounts parroting that we'll surely believe it even more! Yes all praise the far thinking orange man, and US disarming from nuclear weapons lol, just lay off the drugs man, at least before posting.

[betterthanSNnBTC]

Trump dropping bombs on a country because they "might" make a bomb, is the most oxymoronic shit I have ever seen.
It is the same as the death penalty, teaching people not to kill, by killing them, oxymoronic shit.?
They want rules for thee but not me. That is not how timelessness reality works.
I do not want to exist anymore. The world leaders are all fucking retards, replace them with a blockchain before it is to late satoshi.

YADAYADA, when you die, there will be 20,000 kids waiting in line to go to heaven, I am sure they will eject you. They already there.
History does not start on Oct 7th, What about Nakba?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight
700 villages were destroyed and 1000's of kids. FOR WHAT?

700,000 fleeing from their homes because the chosenites.

Just know I am Michael and I am Justice and your ass not coming into the Kingdom of the Creator, Until you apologize to every single one of those kids, that you will be created as and support blowing yourself up haha the way real Karma works is kinda funny.

[franky1]

Trump dropping bombs on a country because they "might" make a bomb, is the most oxymoronic shit I have ever seen.
It is the same as the death penalty, teaching people not to kill, by killing them, oxymoronic shit.?
They want rules for thee but not me. That is not how timelessness reality works.
I do not want to exist anymore. The world leaders are all fucking retards, replace them with a blockchain before it is to late satoshi.

YADAYADA, when you die, there will be 20,000 kids waiting in line to go to heaven, I am sure they will eject you. They already there.
History does not start on Oct 7th, What about Nakba?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight
700 villages were destroyed and 1000's of kids. FOR WHAT?

700,000 fleeing from their homes because the chosenites.

Just know I am Michael and I am Justice and your ass not coming into the Kingdom of the Creator, Until you apologize to every single one of those kids, that you will be created as and support blowing yourself up haha the way real Karma works is kinda funny.

pre 1948 had different names for the land. look into the shifting territories of the ottoman empire also(1300-1920's).
then look back over the details that go back as far as a few millenia ago

majority of time of a few millenia, 'palestine' used to be called philistine which sits roughly where gaza is.
the kingdom of isrealites and judah are what is now isreal.. but state of philistine has for thousands of years been gaza

so you trying to claim the entire area of ancient canaan/southern levent as palestine, is you only taking a small period of ~25 years of bullshit history post ottoman empire

[YADAYADA]

Because Israel lost 1.200 innocent civilians in a terrorist attack, it had no choice but to murder close to 60.000 innocent civilians and keeps murdering more every day. And now US must ask China to keep strait of Hormuz open, or US has to enter into open war with boots on the ground? Yes we all believe, great thinking, all praise the tan man, and if we get few more noob accounts parroting that we'll surely believe it even more! Yes all praise the far thinking orange man, and US disarming from nuclear weapons lol, just lay off the drugs man, at least before posting.

Lol I never tried drugs and don't even take cough medicine but nice try to ridicule me in order to weaken what I have said. No I do not agree with the continuing actions in Gaza and a large portion of my wages goes towards charities who provide humanitarian assistance to the poor people caught up in the retribution Hamas has ensured came about because Hamas does not work in the interest of the people of Gaza but in the interests of a powerful supra national cartel who light fires across the globe for their own warped global ideaology but I get your frustration at me because the devil plays chess a lot better than we do and he already has a counter for your counter long before you have even managed to get yourself into the position you will require it. Do NOT argue with the devil, you will LOSE.If the powers that be get enough people like your goodself thinking Israel Bad Iran Good etc then they will work on getting the greatest land bridge from the middle east to europe open like an ocean and a tidal wave of extremist fanatics marching towards Italy, France and Germany if they can get that far and Russia and China to wax their surf boards and ride upon the wave while the surfs up. You have NO idea how little power elected politicans have and how globalist cartels are embedded in all the real places of power in every nation state, major religion etc and they worship their own version of what they interpret God as and mock even the most intelligent atheists as useful idiots who use facts and science to prove their causes for them. No on the contrary President Trump is trying to "MAKE IRAN GREAT AGAIN" like it was before 1979 ...you know , like before those fanatics destroyed it like they have destroyed every country and civilisation they have ever hijacked with their warped hatred of anyone who is not part of their gang.

"make Iran Great Again! "https://video-s.twimg.com/amplify_video/1937073464390586368/vid/avc1/720x1280/BbKbmh88Dm0d7n7G.mp4

[YADAYADA]

Trump dropping bombs on a country because they "might" make a bomb, is the most oxymoronic shit I have ever seen.
It is the same as the death penalty, teaching people not to kill, by killing them, oxymoronic shit.?

Well actually if a murderer kills a family while they sleep in their beds in their own home at night the death penalty helps bring a sense of justice to any remaining family members or relatives and eases their grief and lessens their thirst for vengeance because the state has taken this burden from them. Stop trying to simplify complexities with emotional rhetoric.

Also FYI I do NOT support the killing of civilians in Gaza anymore than any normal decent person and do whatever I can to actually help alleviate their situation. Hopefully the people there will purge Hamas out of Gaza themselves or what's remaining of Hamas and also demand Hamas release the remaining hostages or their remains.

I am not sure you have an understanding of the what goes on everyday in this region or how hundreds of rockets fired into your neighborhood on a weekly basis or neighbours chanting for your eradication daily can have an effect on your judgement.


Let God alone be the judge.

Just know I am Michael and I am Justice and your ass not coming into the Kingdom of the Creator, Until you apologize to every single one of those kids, that you will be created as and support blowing yourself up haha the way real Karma works is kinda funny.

Apologies I do not understand what this means? Are you claiming to be Michael the Ark angel or something? Like I said I do not support the killing of any civilians. I think you need to apologise for your insults and foolish generalisations about things you seem to have little understanding of but no need as I already forgive you.

History does not start on Oct 7th, What about Nakba?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight
700 villages were destroyed and 1000's of kids. FOR WHAT?

700,000 fleeing from their homes because the chosenites.

Franky1 has made a good point above that you should answer before asking another question on that particular subject.

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This is so embarrassing, did he just said "Now is the time for peace"? This does not look like peace, why do I smell war between US and Iran, now Russian can join in and support Iran since US has taking a massive striker at Iran.

You gotta read the whole situation not what the loudmouth Trump says. This was one of their smallest strikes ever since June 13th.

On June 13, the rogue US regime declared war on Iran and started carrying out large number of terrorist attacks against civilian targets to create chaos so that their proxy operatives can overwhelm Iranian air defense from close range so that their air-force can target them.

Their objective was to turn Iran into Syria, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, ...

That objective failed miserably when Iran recovered in half a day and started retaliating hard by heavily bombing the main US regime proxy, a terrorist organization called Israel.

That bombardment that is still going on has crippled the Zionist regime by day 2-3.

In matter of days, Trump out of desperation wanting to end the bombardment of Israel started begging for ceasefire through back channels. Obviously the US regime cannot appear weak so he did what was done at least 3 previous times: air strikes from hundreds of kilometers away using F-16 and F-35 using light air-launched missiles at Iranian civilian nuclear facilities like Fordow.
Then he sold it to the gullible public (who don't know what a 12000+ kg bomb is) as "B-2 bombers dropping 14 GBU-57 bombs on the facility
(If 14x 12000 kg explosives dropped on Fordow, I would have felt the massive earth quake where I live. Ask Lebanese people about the earth quakes they feel when Iran drops 1500-2000 kg warheads on Israel to get an idea what I'm talking about)

So when he says "Now is the time for peace", he is basically begging Iran in his own way for a ceasefire saying "we didn't do anything new and did no damage at all, but we beg to keep our illusion of strength alive".
He desperately needed that illusion though, specially after their highly lauded F-35 so called "stealth" aircrafts have been getting shut down by Iranian domestically developed air defense!