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June 18, 2025, 07:12:07 AM
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I am writing to learn more about Bitcoin ETFs.
What impact do spot Bitcoin ETFs—such as those from BlackRock, Fidelity, and Grayscale—have on Bitcoin's price and mainstream adoption? Additionally, how are institutions accumulating Bitcoin for long-term holdings?
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June 18, 2025, 10:56:41 AM
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I am writing to learn more about Bitcoin ETFs.
What impact do spot Bitcoin ETFs—such as those from BlackRock, Fidelity, and Grayscale—have on Bitcoin's price and mainstream adoption?
these companies offer another platform where people can buy and hold bitcoin. etfs are perfect for those who do not want to buy bitcoin through exchanges and hold it on their own

for some they think of etfs as less risky and more secure so this definitely brings in more adaption since even hesitant people are able to buy bitcoin
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Additionally, how are institutions accumulating Bitcoin for long-term holdings?
depends on their plans it differs per institution
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June 18, 2025, 11:36:01 AM
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I am writing to learn more about Bitcoin ETFs.
What impact do spot Bitcoin ETFs—such as those from BlackRock, Fidelity, and Grayscale—have on Bitcoin's price and mainstream adoption?

The effect of spot bitcoin ETF has being a reflection of hat the market is today and prior this time, because it caused series of reactions in which the market responded to, one of which was what spike the l time high seen previously as we had it coming more earlier than expected, as a post halving effect on the market price, after the ETF adoption, the market went on bullrun and this catapulted for all time high then.

Then to talk about the present, we also have an increasing  number of bitcoin adoption and use for national reserve because of the multi dimensional ways bitcoin has been found more applicable for the smooth running of an economy in a decentralized network.

Additionally, how are institutions accumulating Bitcoin for long-term holdings?

They have their strategies being employed individually, all that is required is for them to allocate a better entry position and invest, then have the ability of holding for a longer period of time.

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June 18, 2025, 05:35:59 PM
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Institutions accumulate Bitcoin using OTC (Over The Counter) in other to buy Bitcoin in large sum, usually they paid for premium. Different institutions will have different way to custody their coins, most of them use Coinbase, read https://blockworks.co/analytics/bitcoin-etf/tracker

Here are few thread good to read:
1. Everything you wanted to know about a future Based ETF and were afraid to ask!
2. How BTC ETF works? Can someone please explain in simple terms?
3. The impact of Bitcoin ETFs on market and Top Exchanges.
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June 18, 2025, 07:30:00 PM
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Institutions accumulate Bitcoin using OTC (Over The Counter) in other to buy Bitcoin in large sum, usually they paid for premium. Different institutions will have different way to custody their coins, most of them use Coinbase, read https://blockworks.co/analytics/bitcoin-etf/tracker
OTC is their favorite place to accumulate bitcoin but with more and more demands from Bitcoin Spot ETFs as well as other institutional investors, they will have to buy bitcoins from Spot market too. It will support Bitcoin price with time that makes this market cycle somewhat different to previous market cycles. Unfortunately, Bitcoin Spot ETF effects on Bitcoin don't show anything similar to altcoin market in general. In addition, general conditions of global economy and financial markets have been all fearful of recession and even more than that with many wars all over the world. It prevents risk-on money flow to participate in cryptocurrency market so altcoins are not priorities of many investors in this cycle.

About Coinbase that is a most popular chosen custodian of Bitcoin Spot ETFs, it's very risky. Nobody can imagine a nightmare with Bitcoin market if something terrible happens with Coinbase.

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June 18, 2025, 07:32:56 PM
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Institutions accumulate Bitcoin using OTC (Over The Counter) in other to buy Bitcoin in large sum, usually they paid for premium. Different institutions will have different way to custody their coins, most of them use Coinbase, read https://blockworks.co/analytics/bitcoin-etf/tracker

Here are few thread good to read:
1. Everything you wanted to know about a future Based ETF and were afraid to ask!
2. How BTC ETF works? Can someone please explain in simple terms?
3. The impact of Bitcoin ETFs on market and Top Exchanges.

Yep, their effect overall - is a positive one I would say, more trust, more bigger players going in, - and more interesting times ahead of us, that's for sure Grin

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June 18, 2025, 11:41:06 PM
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Firstly there is a delay between when ETF inflows/buys occur and when actual Bitcoin is acquired on market (same principle with sells) and these institutions can buy up very quickly to create a surplus or sell quickly to create a deficit, depending on what ETF buyers and sellers are doing generally. The effect is inaccuracy of the market, in comparison to everyone buying on spot markets. The other trade-off is custody. A buyer using the spot market can store in their own self-custody wallet safely, while an ETF buyer is not just trusting that the paper Bitcoin they own is backed by real Bitcoin, they are trusting Blackrock/the institution providing the ETF to store it safely for them.

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June 19, 2025, 04:46:30 AM
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They offer people alternative ways to join the community, to get exposure to Bitcoin.

They're contributing to the price because they're catering to a demand coming from a certain market. Such market couldn't have been taken advantage of without these financial products.

Much of the mainstream society is comfortable only in what they're familiar about. Bitcoin must be strange to many of them. It's a breakthrough which many might not be too comfortable with. But offered in an ETF, a product they're already familiar, from a familiar and trusted institution, they're likely willing to join. That's what happened. That's how Bitcoin and a mainstream market are bridged together.

How institutions like BlackRock, Fidelity, and others accumulate Bitcoin and keep them? It's via their partners. BlackRock, for example, has partnered with Coinbase Prime for its Bitcoin acquisition and storage. BlackRock doesn't buy Bitcoin directly, nor does it hodl the funds.

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June 19, 2025, 05:24:41 AM
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They offer people alternative ways to join the community, to get exposure to Bitcoin.
It is truly supplemental ways for people, companies and institutional investors to join this market with more convenience.  Even convenience is undeniable, it is unsafe to spend your money, deposit it to a third party and use their products, in this case Bitcoin Spot ETF shares, and trust that they will secure your fund in bitcoin well and safe enough.

It is hard as Bitcoin Spot ETFs can be custodians by themselves or can hire another third party ad a custodian. This doubles risk after your money has to pass through two entities: Bitcoin Spot ETF company, and a custodian of your bitcoin.

I would be different and would like to do things by myself: learn about bitcoin, best wallets and how to download, install, create a wallet, then make wallet backups and totally self-control of my wallets and my bitcoin fund.

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June 19, 2025, 06:27:27 AM
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ETFs will have a major impact on the price  they are trying to do with Bitcoin what they already did with gold. The price of gold today, if we account for all the inflation and devaluation of fiat currencies, should be around $100,000, but it's only about $3,500 per ounce. Gold is centralized in vaults, while they sell paper gold in quantities a thousand times greater than the amount of physical gold that actually exists.

However, it will be much harder to repeat with Bitcoin what they did with gold  the oldest form of money used by humans for thousands of years. Bitcoin is much easier to transport than gold, and much easier to store. For example, to transport $5 million worth of gold, you need trucks, security, and logistics  but with Bitcoin, you can send it with a single click for just a few cents.

Another important point: Bitcoin is easy to audit. Anyone can post an address and prove they own a specific amount of Bitcoin. But how can anyone prove how much gold is really in the vaults? No one knows for sure  that’s why paper gold can circulate far beyond the actual physical supply.They can't control Bitcoin itself, but they can control the exchange rate , and that's exactly why they created the ETF.

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June 19, 2025, 06:30:59 AM
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It is truly supplemental ways for people, companies and institutional investors to join this market with more convenience.  Even convenience is undeniable, it is unsafe to spend your money, deposit it to a third party and use their products, in this case Bitcoin Spot ETF shares, and trust that they will secure your fund in bitcoin well and safe enough.

It is hard as Bitcoin Spot ETFs can be custodians by themselves or can hire another third party ad a custodian. This doubles risk after your money has to pass through two entities: Bitcoin Spot ETF company, and a custodian of your bitcoin.

I would be different and would like to do things by myself: learn about bitcoin, best wallets and how to download, install, create a wallet, then make wallet backups and totally self-control of my wallets and my bitcoin fund.

That's the best way to go about it, because you need to be in charge in order to stay on the bright side of things.

And ETFs are mostly for bigger entities, because such amounts of BTCs need to be regulated in order not to be dumped in one moment, and many more.
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June 19, 2025, 10:22:01 AM
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They offer people alternative ways to join the community, to get exposure to Bitcoin.
It is truly supplemental ways for people, companies and institutional investors to join this market with more convenience.  Even convenience is undeniable, it is unsafe to spend your money, deposit it to a third party and use their products, in this case Bitcoin Spot ETF shares, and trust that they will secure your fund in bitcoin well and safe enough.

It is hard as Bitcoin Spot ETFs can be custodians by themselves or can hire another third party ad a custodian. This doubles risk after your money has to pass through two entities: Bitcoin Spot ETF company, and a custodian of your bitcoin.

I would be different and would like to do things by myself: learn about bitcoin, best wallets and how to download, install, create a wallet, then make wallet backups and totally self-control of my wallets and my bitcoin fund.

I am in favor of using non-custodial wallets because we have full control over our bitcoins but that doesn't mean investing through bitcoin ETFs is unsafe. If you look at the money flowing into bitcoin through ETFs as well as the amount of bitcoin these funds hold, you will see that hundreds of millions of dollars a day and billions of dollars are flowing into bitcoin. I don't think rich people who are spending billions of dollars don't know what they are doing, where their money is and whether it is safe...

So in my opinion, Bitcoin ETF is safe and people who are not confident or do not want to hold bitcoin themselves can invest through ETF.

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June 20, 2025, 01:28:06 AM
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They offer people alternative ways to join the community, to get exposure to Bitcoin.
It is truly supplemental ways for people, companies and institutional investors to join this market with more convenience.  Even convenience is undeniable, it is unsafe to spend your money, deposit it to a third party and use their products, in this case Bitcoin Spot ETF shares, and trust that they will secure your fund in bitcoin well and safe enough.

It is hard as Bitcoin Spot ETFs can be custodians by themselves or can hire another third party ad a custodian. This doubles risk after your money has to pass through two entities: Bitcoin Spot ETF company, and a custodian of your bitcoin.

I would be different and would like to do things by myself: learn about bitcoin, best wallets and how to download, install, create a wallet, then make wallet backups and totally self-control of my wallets and my bitcoin fund.

You and I and many among us here may be different. Others could also be different. It may be unsafe for one to trust a multibillion dollar company that has a long track record, but it could also be equally unsafe, perhaps even more unsafe, for a clumsy, irresponsible, negligent, unconfident, lazy, and careless person to act as his/her own bank. The latter might have the double risk. It's like banks. We don't completely trust them, but can we trust our room for a significant amount of cash? Again, it's an alternative for a certain market.

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For this season, we can't deny the numerous impacts of bitcoin ETF bestowed upon the bitcoin market price performance, then going further to after the all time high has been achieved, we are also having a number of adoption from institutions and government corporations towards bitcoin national reserve, which makes me to believe that anything could happen to make bitcoin make all time high or go into bullrun.

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I can only tell you that price depends on the supply demand ratio. If institutions are buying bitcoin the price will rise and if they are selling the price will fall. There are so many big companies buying bitcoin that huge dumps are quickly corrected.

However you might be taking a wrong step if you are buying ETF and not the real thing. With real bitcoin you have it at your disposal to spend - full control over your assets.

This is not the case with ETF. Also buying bitcoin is way easier than buying just the ETF. However your needs might be different, so pick your choice as your needs are.

 
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I am writing to learn more about Bitcoin ETFs.
What impact do spot Bitcoin ETFs—such as those from BlackRock, Fidelity, and Grayscale—have on Bitcoin's price and mainstream adoption? Additionally, how are institutions accumulating Bitcoin for long-term holdings?
The adoption by world giant public companies such as Blackrock through its Bitcoin ETF always has a quite positive impact on market sentiment. Because with the entry of larger institutions it is hoped that bitcoin will be better known and there will also be more people accumulating bitcoin. Even Blackrock itself, through its bitcoin ETF, has now accumulated a very large number of bitcoins, even surpassing that of the public company Microstrategy.

The number of bitcoins currently owned by iShares Bitcoin Trust (Blackrock) is 683,017.5 Bitcoins. With their last purchase this month, namely June 18 2025, amounting to 2,680.7 bitcoins. Blackrock has a very high speed of bitcoin accumulation.


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- https://bitbo.io/treasuries/blackrock-ibit/

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For this season, we can't deny the numerous impacts of bitcoin ETF bestowed upon the bitcoin market price performance, then going further to after the all time high has been achieved, we are also having a number of adoption from institutions and government corporations towards bitcoin national reserve, which makes me to believe that anything could happen to make bitcoin make all time high or go into bullrun.

Adoption is where true progress of BTC shows through - the price is only second to it Wink

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Bitcoin ETFs has made the sceptical people see bitcoin as a good asset to invest in because they have made bitcoin look like fiat where you buy and keep it in the custody of a third party. It's increasing the adoption rate but I must tell you that these investors buying bitcoin from ETFs are not real holders because they are not buying real bitcoin.

All these centralized entities are not supporting the decentralized nature of bitcoin but using it for business since a lot of people currently see bitcoin as an asset instead of a decentralized currency. Only people who have their bitcoin in a nonustodial wallets are holding real bitcoin.
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Bitcoin ETFs has made the sceptical people see bitcoin as a good asset to invest in because they have made bitcoin look like fiat where you buy and keep it in the custody of a third party. It's increasing the adoption rate but I must tell you that these investors buying bitcoin from ETFs are not real holders because they are not buying real bitcoin.
They want to get profit with Bitcoin price growth and that's it but they don't buy bitcoin. In fact they purchase shares of Bitcoin Spot ETFs and these Bitcoin Spot ETF companies even don't be self custodians but the custodians are mostly Coinbase.

By signing contracts with Coinbase as custodians of their customers' bitcoins, it makes risk to their customers if anything wrong happens with Coinbase. Any institutional investors who already chose or are considering to invest through Bitcoin Spot ETFs and mandatory trust on Coinbase must know about this fact and this risk. They have to trust Bitcoin Spot ETF companies and also Coinbase.

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I am writing to learn more about Bitcoin ETFs.
What impact do spot Bitcoin ETFs—such as those from BlackRock, Fidelity, and Grayscale—have on Bitcoin's price and mainstream adoption? Additionally, how are institutions accumulating Bitcoin for long-term holdings?

Institutional investors in Bitcoin contributed to the increase in the price of Bitcoin from last year. As they accumulate the market reacts positively in some cases. Since Bitcoin has no central authority,  it will be difficult to see any organisation promoting Bitcoin without any ulterior motives. They might use Bitcoin to attract investors or customers to their platforms.  Although these adverts might not be proper since they encourage people to use centralized platforms.  But they are also indirectly promoting Bitcoin awareness and adoption.  Some people might never have known about Bitcoin without Spot Bitcoin ETF.

The question about the duration of the plans of these Institutional investors can only be answered by the company's representatives. Nobody knows how these films will react during the bear market. Maybe checking these institutions investment plans might be helpful in determining how long they intend to hodl their Bitcoins.

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