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The biggest problem with Islam is that Muslims only believe that Jesus was a prophet, if that. Anybody who doesn't understand that Jesus was appointed by the Great Creator GOD, to be the God of this universe, will at least have trouble being accepted by God in the judgment. Better to be a Messiah believing Zionist, or a Jesus-God believing Christian, and having a chance to be saved for eternity, than a Muslim who doesn't recognize the power of Jesus-God. Mark 16:16: "Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned."Matthew 9:29: "Then he touched their eyes and said, 'According to your faith let it be done to you.'" 
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Wrong. Islam is just a religion and as much of a problem as religion is anywhere else.
However, when countries are poor, have social problems, are under threat or cannot provide a future for their youth, anyone out there with money and desire to manipulate will easily use any religion in their benefit.
For example, the religious extremists can be easily be led to follow a leader when they are discontent - even if that leader is mediocre and wants to grab power for himself. And I am not talking about the Middle East, I am talking about Texas.
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the problem with religion is peoples interpretations.. which can differ person to person
in christianity there are the god fearing types and the god forgiving types... some think god will smite and punish.. some think god will forgive..
those 2 different types then lead onto other paths of misinterpretation. such as the god fearing: thinking your condemned for not believing in christian god at all or punished for believing in another god. which creates the bible bashing preachers trying to recruit and indoctrinate people like some cult. and then threatening people with harm for not following/believing/joining
such as the god forgiving: leading these types of christians to do sins of all disgusting manner of things (priests fondling choir boys) thinking god gave them freedoms and all sins are paid off guilt free already by some character invented 2025+ years ago. so all is forgiven
other religions are similar.. some become soo intently guided by religion they start to do atrocious acts in the name of their religious leader, deity, god, whether it be rape, murder, war or genocide. they blame it on their religious cause.
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take even buddhism some believe its a path to enlightenment, seeking wisdom, peace, serenity and the pursuit of knowledge and passing on the education others believe that people should not be attached to other people and objects, so should not own things or form relationships others believe in the fear of karma and punishment
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The big problem with the middle east is the fact there are too many religious factions and extremist who would stop untill destroying one another. Religious extremism who believe their existence is incompatible with the existence of their neighbors. It is completely different in continents in which all countries are of the same religion, or similar ones, on the Americas the majority of people follow some branch of Christianity. In the Arabic Peninsula all countries are muslin majority, so they dont have so many problems among one another. The Soviet Union wanted to establish State Atheism, so they were antagonistic against their muslin neighbor countries, like Afghanistan.
Also, this thread is rather more about religion than geopolitics, which is usually the main topic we talk about here on this section of the forum.
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Wrong. Islam is just a religion and as much of a problem as religion is anywhere else.
However, when countries are poor, have social problems, are under threat or cannot provide a future for their youth, anyone out there with money and desire to manipulate will easily use any religion in their benefit.
For example, the religious extremists can be easily be led to follow a leader when they are discontent - even if that leader is mediocre and wants to grab power for himself. And I am not talking about the Middle East, I am talking about Texas.
The difference between Christianity and any other religion is that Christianity is truth. There is no way to understand where we came from by our own understanding. Evolution is a guess, and is based mostly on talk. Bible religion - Christianity - is based on coherent history. It is God talking to us rather clearly, even though He makes Himself known in nature. All religions that do not have Jesus salvation, are religions that are ultimately bringing death to their people. A government that says they are protecting their people, if they don't have Jesus at their core, is really destroying their people. Islam is one such Government. We all die. There is eternal life promised to the people who believe in Jesus. Why Jesus religion and not other religions? Because the Bible shows itself to be history, and not just a bunch of stories. Seems like the religion of fake science, or the religion of no religion, has captured you. Turn to Jesus so that you aren't left out when He returns. 
the problem with religion is peoples interpretations.. which can differ person to person
in christianity there are the god fearing types and the god forgiving types... some think god will smite and punish.. some think god will forgive..
those 2 different types then lead onto other paths of misinterpretation. such as the god fearing: thinking your condemned for not believing in christian god at all or punished for believing in another god. which creates the bible bashing preachers trying to recruit and indoctrinate people like some cult. and then threatening people with harm for not following/believing/joining
such as the god forgiving: leading these types of christians to do sins of all disgusting manner of things (priests fondling choir boys) thinking god gave them freedoms and all sins are paid off guilt free already by some character invented 2025+ years ago. so all is forgiven
other religions are similar.. some become soo intently guided by religion they start to do atrocious acts in the name of their religious leader, deity, god, whether it be rape, murder, war or genocide. they blame it on their religious cause.
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take even buddhism some believe its a path to enlightenment, seeking wisdom, peace, serenity and the pursuit of knowledge and passing on the education others believe that people should not be attached to other people and objects, so should not own things or form relationships others believe in the fear of karma and punishment
That's an interesting religion you have there. Adam and Eve fell because they didn't believe God. So, that is the thing that God is working on first... faith in Him. Just because a person claims that he is using religion to do good and right, if he isn't following what God tells him to do, is he really following his religion correctly as he says he is? You name the religion. They all have failures in them. The religion of science or the religion of non-religion, and even the religion of Christianity all have failures in them, because nobody does them correctly. The point is where the success lies. Ultimately it doesn't exist in this life, because everybody seems to die... or do you know some who are thousands of years old? Jesus is one of them... around since the Beginning, even though He was born in Bethlehem about 2,000 years ago. He 'accessed' the point-zero energy of the mind and Spirit of God, and 'accessed' all time and space thereby. Jesus offers salvation from death to all those who trust in Him. And, He can do it because He did it for Himself. I understand what a trick this is... salvation by believing it, in Jesus. 
The big problem with the middle east is the fact there are too many religious factions and extremist who would stop untill destroying one another. Religious extremism who believe their existence is incompatible with the existence of their neighbors. It is completely different in continents in which all countries are of the same religion, or similar ones, on the Americas the majority of people follow some branch of Christianity. In the Arabic Peninsula all countries are muslin majority, so they dont have so many problems among one another. The Soviet Union wanted to establish State Atheism, so they were antagonistic against their muslin neighbor countries, like Afghanistan.
Also, this thread is rather more about religion than geopolitics, which is usually the main topic we talk about here on this section of the forum.
Geopolitical talk is basically religious talk. Look up the definitions of 'religion' to see that things that people do 'religiously' are their religion. Differences in continents do not make the people of one of these continents to exist outside of the universe, and the universal laws of God. The Russian Orthodox Church is Christian, even though they don't promote individuals reading the Bible. Some people are saved even though they don't properly promote Jesus. So, Jesus salvation is promoted by Russians, but barely or not at all by Muslims. The big point is, all people die, so their religion doesn't matter, because it is gone for them at their death. What is important for people is that they access eternal life in the Resurrection. Such is only through Jesus. 
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That's an interesting religion you have there. Adam and Eve fell because they didn't believe God. So, that is the thing that God is working on first... faith in Him.
Just because a person claims that he is using religion to do good and right, if he isn't following what God tells him to do, is he really following his religion correctly as he says he is? You name the religion. They all have failures in them. The religion of science or the religion of non-religion, and even the religion of Christianity all have failures in them, because nobody does them correctly.
The point is where the success lies. Ultimately it doesn't exist in this life, because everybody seems to die... or do you know some who are thousands of years old? Jesus is one of them... around since the Beginning, even though He was born in Bethlehem about 2,000 years ago. He 'accessed' the point-zero energy of the mind and Spirit of God, and 'accessed' all time and space thereby.
Jesus offers salvation from death to all those who trust in Him. And, He can do it because He did it for Himself.
I understand what a trick this is... salvation by believing it, in Jesus.
^ prime example of a preacher thinking people are bad if they dont follow god.. saying that salvation from death by believing in jesus.. is interpreted by some as death to all those that dont believe .. but here is the secret.. everyone dies. no one is immortal.. so belief or not. everyone will die eventually my belief to prevent early death is much more simpler.. look both ways before crossing the road, dont drink and drive, dont grab the pointy side of a knife, dont look down a barrel of a gun when testing if it works.. you know logical stuff funny part is god never told badecker anything... no one alive today can attest to meeting such entity.. infact no one has ever met "god". jesus cant offer anyone anything, again an entity/character from a book thats over 2000 years old.. is different to a living neighbour today that can offer you his lawnmower or salvation if you think you can be absolved from things based on a story from a book. then you need to realise who the author is.. jesus did not write the book nor did god. it was apparently a book wrote decades after those supposed entities interacted with people. also the english translated book that is sold commercially today is not the same exact stories as the ancient language versions from millenia ago.. alot has been lost in translation or modified to meet the demands and cultural changes of each different era EG 2000 years ago romans were allowed to be bisexual. and so disease such as HIV/AIDS spread. which ignited the need to tell moral-full stories of celibacy, heterosexuality and such to calm the storm of disease spreading. and for generations people followed it.. until condoms and other contraceptives came about and now the moral virtues of modern life tweaked the modern versions of the bible to be more passive and accepting of people from different sexualities
other religions such as muslims also have their preachers/imams with deep beliefs in judging those who dont believe in their same entity, allah & muhammad.. .. they even have their own special lists of whats haram and other lists of excuses why certain other haram's can be absolved, forgiven which leads such people down dangerous paths of becoming radicals
the reason i bring up christianity, buddhism and such in this topic which is trying to blame islam.. is because the problem is not islam.. its religion as a whole there are many people of many beliefs that are peaceful and forgiving.. but then there are the radicals of many beliefs too..
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That's an interesting religion you have there. Adam and Eve fell because they didn't believe God. So, that is the thing that God is working on first... faith in Him.
Just because a person claims that he is using religion to do good and right, if he isn't following what God tells him to do, is he really following his religion correctly as he says he is? You name the religion. They all have failures in them. The religion of science or the religion of non-religion, and even the religion of Christianity all have failures in them, because nobody does them correctly.
The point is where the success lies. Ultimately it doesn't exist in this life, because everybody seems to die... or do you know some who are thousands of years old? Jesus is one of them... around since the Beginning, even though He was born in Bethlehem about 2,000 years ago. He 'accessed' the point-zero energy of the mind and Spirit of God, and 'accessed' all time and space thereby.
Jesus offers salvation from death to all those who trust in Him. And, He can do it because He did it for Himself.
I understand what a trick this is... salvation by believing it, in Jesus.
^ prime example of a preacher thinking people are bad if they dont follow god.. saying that salvation from death by believing in jesus.. is interpreted by some as death to all those that dont believe .. but here is the secret.. everyone dies. no one is immortal.. so belief or not. everyone will die eventually - God holds the spirit of everyone alive when he dies. It's simply that people 'morph' into a different body, elsewhere than on Ewrth. This is shown when Jesus said to the repentant thief on the cross, "Today you will be with me in paradise."my belief to prevent early death is much more simpler.. look both ways before crossing the road, dont drink and drive, dont grab the pointy side of a knife, dont look down a barrel of a gun when testing if it works.. you know logical stuff - In the Lord's prayer, the fourth request is "Give us today our daily bread." We ask that the universe works according to cause and effect when we ask that. If we didn't have the universe cause and effect working, bread would never come about. Because of sin and weak faith, cause and effect can produce bad things, if there isn't enough faith in God to stop the bad things.funny part is god never told badecker anything... no one alive today can attest to meeting such entity.. infact no one has ever met "god". - God talks to anyone who wants to listen... thru reading the Bible.jesus cant offer anyone anything, again an entity/character from a book thats over 2000 years old.. is different to a living neighbour today that can offer you his lawnmower or salvation - Jesus was raised from death higher than the heavens to fill the whole universe... stated in Ephesians.if you think you can be absolved from things based on a story from a book. then you need to realise who the author is.. jesus did not write the book nor did god. it was apparently a book wrote decades after those supposed entities interacted with people. also the english translated book that is sold commercially today is not the same exact stories as the ancient language versions from millenia ago.. alot has been lost in translation or modified to meet the demands and cultural changes of each different era - God acted spiritually with the writers and translators so that they wrote His Word... Who is Jesus. The first words in the Book of John state this.EG 2000 years ago romans were allowed to be bisexual. and so disease such as HIV/AIDS spread. which ignited the need to tell moral-full stories of celibacy, heterosexuality and such to calm the storm of disease spreading. and for generations people followed it.. until condoms and other contraceptives came about and now the moral virtues of modern life tweaked the modern versions of the bible to be more passive and accepting of people from different sexualities - God is good. He allows even unbelievers to recognize what works and what doesn't.
other religions such as muslims also have their preachers/imams with deep beliefs in judging those who dont believe in their same entity, allah & muhammad.. .. they even have their own special lists of whats haram and other lists of excuses why certain other haram's can be absolved, forgiven which leads such people down dangerous paths of becoming radicals - Since much logic and much cause and effect is written in many books, even so people have the ability write good things. But the Bible brings it all to the perspective of saving yourself, or trusting Jesus-God to do the saving.
the reason i bring up christianity, buddhism and such in this topic which is trying to blame islam.. is because the problem is not islam.. its religion as a whole there are many people of many beliefs that are peaceful and forgiving.. but then there are the radicals of many beliefs too.. Religion as a whole includes the religion of non-religion, and the religions of science and evolution. Since there isn't any secular religion that talks about eternal life, forget those. Even Islam talks about eternal life, but it makes such to be something that people can try to do.
However, people can't do it as is shown by the fact that they try and fail. It will only be done God's way. Trust in Jesus Who is alive and wishing you would come to Him. But, you are free to go your own way, no matter how foolish it is.
BTW, do you think that you are alive? Good thing that you have pain and joy to prove it to you. Because life is impossible according to understanding. You must not really want to believe the truth if you believe the blab of the evolutionists. They don't have the answer, even though some of them think they do.
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The biggest problem of the Middle East is the sons of bitches who spend money and effort to destabilize the region for their own interests. Israel is a puppet that does some state's dirty work. AND ISRAEL IS A TERRORIST.
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I wouldn't put blames on any of the religion, and I don't think that Muslim as a religion is the problem in the Middle East but the individuals who practice it. The leaders are to teach their followers the right way to practice their religion and not the wrong way. Down here is my country, the core Muslims have been deceived by their leaders to the point that they can create violence anytime and they are ready to kill and die in that violence, because they have been brainwashed that if they die fighting, ten virgins await them in heaven.
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I am a Christian and does not like to engage of religious criticism especially against the other religions. I have experienced a discussion where it is argued that Mohammed is an Islamic prophet while Jesus act the same for the Christians.
I am a core Jesus Christ believer that he is not just a man but descended from the above to save the world. His birthday and rising after death was a mysterious and that got him another God of it form.
I don't know the story behind the prophet Mohammed neither their God Allah and for that I just believe either Islamic or Christianity, Jesus Christ is the saviour of everyone else.
The only wrong finger I can point to the Islams is that they are religious based. Although I don't know if it is act out illiteracies because as most of them I have come across says they kills in other to have either 7-12 virgins as companions in heaven. That is why in my own locality the Islams oppresses the Christians violently. Aside that, I can not argue on a spiritual World that I have no knowledge about since we are not living spiritually here on earth.
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some become soo intently guided by religion they start to do atrocious acts in the name of their religious leader, deity, god, whether it be rape, murder, war or genocide. they blame it on their religious cause.
if this topic is to be properly dealt with, then it is going to start from this point of view because this is the origin of the religious crisis that we have been experiencing right from the past to the very present day religion setting. because of certain religious teaching which projects the after life in a certain way, it causes most religious enthusiast to carry out atrocities in the believe that the reward for such act is what lies in wait for them in the after life. the theory that the Muslim believes that a lot of virgins will be given to them if they while on earth join in the jihadi war joins in fueling the way they go about things because of their view on that subject matter. the traditionalist and even some extreme Christian also have a fair share of their excesses which also contribute to he problem the world is facing now. the lack of tolerance and the view of superiority of one religion over another jointly contribute to the religious unrest that is happening across the globe.
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It's as bad as people who are yet to: * follow HIM and do what HE said * believe HE actually died for us * believe HE is the Son of GOD.
- If JESUS told the truth and is PREACHER of Righteousness why not follow and obey HIM. Even Moses was followed not to talk of JESUS who created Moses (GOD the FATHER created the World through JESUS, the Word of GOD). - If someone could sacrifice his life for love ones why not believe JESUS sacrificed HIS life to free people from sin and death? - If GOD is our FATHER and we are HIS sons why not JESUS? - If holy men were called Gods in the Old testament (of the Word of GOD) why not JESUS?
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It's as bad as people who are yet to: * follow HIM and do what HE said * believe HE actually died for us * believe HE is the Son of GOD.
- If JESUS told the truth and is PREACHER of Righteousness why not follow and obey HIM. Even Moses was followed not to talk of JESUS who created Moses (GOD the FATHER created the World through JESUS, the Word of GOD). - If someone could sacrifice his life for love ones why not believe JESUS sacrificed HIS life to free people from sin and death? - If GOD is our FATHER and we are HIS sons why not JESUS? - If holy men were called Gods in the Old testament (of the Word of GOD) why not JESUS?
Right on! The big Islam and general religious problem is thinking that people can save themselves. Nobody understands the depths of the physics of the universe. Even so, they don't understand how to save themselves. We all need Jesus-God to save us. 
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June 19, 2025, 04:12:58 PM |
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There are good and bad people in Christianity and Islam. No religion on earth that doesn't have the good and bad people that made up that religion.
Each religion has doctrines and commandments. Those commandments how many of their followers are sticking to it without them falling away from it.
In one of the Christian ten commandments, it says thou shall not kill. But we can still find people who can kill, upon being a Christian. In Islam, if die fighting, ten virgins awaits the person in paradise. How many Islam brethren are sticking to that "to kill"? This is a question to ask.
I think of each of us has what our brain has being nurtured to act upon base on teaching we have received from birth from the people that groomed us. If our country is a Christian country, it is expected of us to believe in Jesus Christ as being the savior of the world. If it is Islam country, we are belief and act as Islam. As simple as that because the religion your parents introduced to, that's the religion you belong to, untill the time you come of age, whether to remain with such religion or not.
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Geopolitical talk is basically religious talk. Look up the definitions of 'religion' to see that things that people do 'religiously' are their religion.
Differences in continents do not make the people of one of these continents to exist outside of the universe, and the universal laws of God.
The Russian Orthodox Church is Christian, even though they don't promote individuals reading the Bible. Some people are saved even though they don't properly promote Jesus. So, Jesus salvation is promoted by Russians, but barely or not at all by Muslims.
The big point is, all people die, so their religion doesn't matter, because it is gone for them at their death. What is important for people is that they access eternal life in the Resurrection. Such is only through Jesus.
It depends whom you ask whether geopolitics has something to do with religion or not. The middle east is special because of how religion is continuously influencing on the military operations which take place among neighbor countries there. Also, it is quite ironic you mention the Russian Orthodox Church when they have openly endorsed Putin and his war against Ukraine, when Christian values are completely incompatible with war and violence. Those who are the authority of the Russian Churches are pretty much hypocrites who have sold their souls to the Russian state and have turned their face way from the teachings of Jesus and his apostles.
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The biggest problem with Islam is that Muslims only believe that Jesus was a prophet, if that. Anybody who doesn't understand that Jesus was appointed by the Great Creator GOD, to be the God of this universe, will at least have trouble being accepted by God in the judgment. Better to be a Messiah believing Zionist, or a Jesus-God believing Christian, and having a chance to be saved for eternity, than a Muslim who doesn't recognize the power of Jesus-God. Mark 16:16: "Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned."Matthew 9:29: "Then he touched their eyes and said, 'According to your faith let it be done to you.'"  Religion is freedom, you have the freedom to choose any religion according to your beliefs without having to blame other people's beliefs. All religions are good, which invite peace. And if you make Islam the scapegoat for the main cause of problems in the Middle East, then you are very wrong, because before Islam came to the Middle East, conflicts and wars had often occurred, and more than that, slavery and colonization were real. And Islam came to defend them, people who were marginalized and continued to be enslaved by the Jews. I believe that the figure of Jesus Christ is the Prophet Jesus alaihi salam and you believe that Jesus Christ is God. Okay, let's live with our respective beliefs, without having to question this because both Islam and Christianity have a strong enough foundation for this. Tolerance is beautiful and living in diversity is fun, because there is something more important than just religion and belief, namely humanity. If you can't live side by side in the name of religion, let's live side by side in the name of humanity.
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God does not need to be defended because He is greater than what He created, He is greater than what He created, and He is stronger than what He created. So God does not need to be defended, because He is the greatest.
But how can it be said that Jesus was appointed by the Great Creator to be the Lord of the universe..? And if so, then there is something greater and more noble than God Himself..? God is one and does not depend on anyone, does not beget and is not born, and there is nothing equal to Him.
I accept your critical reasoning, questioning the Islamic religion because it assumes that Jesus was a prophet. However, it would be better to stop the question there, do not say that Islam is the mastermind behind the riots that occurred in the Middle East. Because what you said is a provocative expression that can make someone's blood boil, especially for those who are Muslim.
And if Islam is the mastermind behind the riots in the Middle East, then the riots should not only be in the Middle East but also in other regions, because Islam is not only in the Middle East. Indeed, there are several militia groups that use the name of Islam that call for jihad to disrupt religious harmony. But believe that they are not true Islam, they only use the name of Islam to damage the image of Islam itself, because in essence Islam never teaches hostility and oppression, true Islam always calls for peace and upholds tolerance.
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But how can it be said that Jesus was appointed by the Great Creator to be the Lord of the universe..? And if so, then there is something greater and more noble than God Himself..? God is one and does not depend on anyone, does not beget and is not born, and there is nothing equal to Him.
If GOD appoints men to be kings or presidents of nations how can HE not make JESUS the LORD of the Universe, of which HE is far greater than? There is nothing greater than GOD. HE is the FATHER of all creations, and even appoints people to rule over them. That doesn't make them greater than GOD. Ofcourse, GOD is one, and HE can exist in multiple places at a time. That part of HIM is JESUS. GOD can live in human body. That's what happened through the human body of JESUS. GOD operated through the Body. That JESUS is SPIRIT of GOD HIMSELF inside human body.
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The difference between Christianity and any other religion is that Christianity is truth. There is no way to understand where we came from by our own understanding. Evolution is a guess, and is based mostly on talk. Bible religion - Christianity - is based on coherent history. It is God talking to us rather clearly, even though He makes Himself known in nature. All religions that do not have Jesus salvation, are religions that are ultimately bringing death to their people. A government that says they are protecting their people, if they don't have Jesus at their core, is really destroying their people. Islam is one such Government. We all die. There is eternal life promised to the people who believe in Jesus. Why Jesus religion and not other religions? Because the Bible shows itself to be history, and not just a bunch of stories. Seems like the religion of fake science, or the religion of no religion, has captured you. Turn to Jesus so that you aren't left out when He returns.  You may feel right, but don't feel that you are the most right. The ultimate truth belongs only to God, and every religion teaches the truth to mankind. And if the teachings of Islam were wrong, maybe Islam would not have survived until now, behind the many slanders that say that Islam is terrorist. In reality, Islam is currently the most developed religion and its followers continue to increase every year. But I don't completely blame you, because maybe the Muslims you see there are more violent and extreme, but what you have to understand is that you should never judge something from just one side. Because what I see here, in a country with a majority Muslim population, I really feel peace here and can worship peacefully and so do my non-Muslim brothers. And I often go around to attend religious studies, that there is not a single verse of the Qur'an that orders its people to do damage on earth and start a feud, in fact, Islam is the religion that most strongly opposes this. That's an interesting religion you have there. Adam and Eve fell because they didn't believe God. So, that is the thing that God is working on first... faith in Him. Just because a person claims that he is using religion to do good and right, if he isn't following what God tells him to do, is he really following his religion correctly as he says he is? You name the religion. They all have failures in them. The religion of science or the religion of non-religion, and even the religion of Christianity all have failures in them, because nobody does them correctly. The point is where the success lies. Ultimately it doesn't exist in this life, because everybody seems to die... or do you know some who are thousands of years old? Jesus is one of them... around since the Beginning, even though He was born in Bethlehem about 2,000 years ago. He 'accessed' the point-zero energy of the mind and Spirit of God, and 'accessed' all time and space thereby. Jesus offers salvation from death to all those who trust in Him. And, He can do it because He did it for Himself. I understand what a trick this is... salvation by believing it, in Jesus.  In my opinion, Adam and Eve never stated that they did not believe in God, they only violated God's rules so they were expelled from heaven, and that was because of Satan's incitement. I tell the story not to seek justification or to say that the story of Adam and Eve in my religion is the most correct. But I just want to show that every religion has a different version of how humans were created and how they were sent down to earth, and we need to respect these differences, without having to feel that we are the most correct and blame other people's beliefs. Differences are not a reason for us to hate and destroy each other, it is through this peace that makes us stronger. I speak on behalf of humanity that at this time there are quite a lot of people who are oppressed, they are victims of people who use the name of religion for personal and group interests. Even though they themselves never truly believed in the one and only God. Because if they were religious people, then they would never have caused damage and started hostility, because no religion teaches about evil.
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The difference between Christianity and any other religion is that Christianity is truth. There is no way to understand where we came from by our own understanding. Evolution is a guess, and is based mostly on talk. Bible religion - Christianity - is based on coherent history. It is God talking to us rather clearly, even though He makes Himself known in nature. All religions that do not have Jesus salvation, are religions that are ultimately bringing death to their people. A government that says they are protecting their people, if they don't have Jesus at their core, is really destroying their people. Islam is one such Government. We all die. There is eternal life promised to the people who believe in Jesus. Why Jesus religion and not other religions? Because the Bible shows itself to be history, and not just a bunch of stories. Seems like the religion of fake science, or the religion of no religion, has captured you. Turn to Jesus so that you aren't left out when He returns.  You may feel right, but don't feel that you are the most right. The ultimate truth belongs only to God, and every religion teaches the truth to mankind. Of course the truth is God's only. The difference is the power behind what is written. The Bible was written by people who had power, and the acceptance of it by the rest of the people shows that they recognized that the power was there. Read books 2-4 of Moses's writings. History, not just talk, but power also. And if the teachings of Islam were wrong, maybe Islam would not have survived until now, behind the many slanders that say that Islam is terrorist. In reality, Islam is currently the most developed religion and its followers continue to increase every year.
Islam has a lot of truth. American law has a lot of truth. Russian law has a lot of truth. The Roman Catholic Church has a lot of truth. India religions have a lot of truth. Science has a lot of truth. Only believing in Jesus-salvation saves for eternal life. But I don't completely blame you, because maybe the Muslims you see there are more violent and extreme, but what you have to understand is that you should never judge something from just one side. Because what I see here, in a country with a majority Muslim population, I really feel peace here and can worship peacefully and so do my non-Muslim brothers. And I often go around to attend religious studies, that there is not a single verse of the Qur'an that orders its people to do damage on earth and start a feud, in fact, Islam is the religion that most strongly opposes this.
Islam is only peaceful to those of its own religion, and, at times, those who it is trying to conquer into Islam. To see this, all you need do is type the words 'Quran violence' into a search engine. Perhaps you had no reason to do it in the past, so I can't blame you for your former mistakes. That's an interesting religion you have there. Adam and Eve fell because they didn't believe God. So, that is the thing that God is working on first... faith in Him. Just because a person claims that he is using religion to do good and right, if he isn't following what God tells him to do, is he really following his religion correctly as he says he is? You name the religion. They all have failures in them. The religion of science or the religion of non-religion, and even the religion of Christianity all have failures in them, because nobody does them correctly. The point is where the success lies. Ultimately it doesn't exist in this life, because everybody seems to die... or do you know some who are thousands of years old? Jesus is one of them... around since the Beginning, even though He was born in Bethlehem about 2,000 years ago. He 'accessed' the point-zero energy of the mind and Spirit of God, and 'accessed' all time and space thereby. Jesus offers salvation from death to all those who trust in Him. And, He can do it because He did it for Himself. I understand what a trick this is... salvation by believing it, in Jesus.  In my opinion, Adam and Eve never stated that they did not believe in God, they only violated God's rules so they were expelled from heaven, and that was because of Satan's incitement. Probably Adam and Eve never made a verbal statement to this effect. Maybe they never wrote it down. But they absolutely DID act the part by not obeying God's command. In addition, you err. They were never expelled from heaven. From the Garden, yes. Not from heaven. I tell the story not to seek justification or to say that the story of Adam and Eve in my religion is the most correct. But I just want to show that every religion has a different version of how humans were created and how they were sent down to earth, and we need to respect these differences, without having to feel that we are the most correct and blame other people's beliefs. Differences are not a reason for us to hate and destroy each other, it is through this peace that makes us stronger.
There are loads of books and scrolls out there. But doesn't the truth lie with the power besides what make sense? Mankind can't save themselves. No power in man, even like Islam says. I speak on behalf of humanity that at this time there are quite a lot of people who are oppressed, they are victims of people who use the name of religion for personal and group interests. Even though they themselves never truly believed in the one and only God. Because if they were religious people, then they would never have caused damage and started hostility, because no religion teaches about evil.
Everybody is oppressed by death. The only way to life is through Jesus. Everything else might have good and it might have evil. But it is only for this life. Seek Jesus-God for eternal life. 
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