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June 19, 2025, 06:47:57 PM
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We’ve been experimenting with something called AI Adversarial Agents. They’re AI characters that are programmed to think in a certain way and have their own personality while answering. The goal is to prompt them and trying to convince them of a specific thing. If the AI approves a prompt, it gives out a prize, but if it rejects (It does most of the times), it will give an answer explaining why, sometimes in a funny way.

We’ve already created a few:

One is Pitch Lucy, an AI hedge fund manager who invests on tokens. People need to pitch tokens to it and convince her to invest.

Another is Mia, a flat-earther who refuses to accept any evidence the Earth is round, no matter how solid your reasoning is.

As fans of Bitcoin, we decided to make one that defends it, no matter what.
Meet the Bitcoin Maximalist agent. It’s convinced that BTC is the only real store of value, and everything else in crypto is either a distraction or a scam.

People try to bring up altcoins, smart contracts, NFTs, PoS chains and it shuts them down with relentless maximalist logic.

Hopefully no one ever manages to convince it. If you're curious and want to try it, let me know and I’ll send you the link.

Next step is to create a launchpad where everyone can create their own Adversarial Agents in minutes. Which ever topic you want, it can be created.
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June 19, 2025, 09:10:07 PM
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We’ve been experimenting with something called AI Adversarial Agents. They’re AI characters that are programmed to think in a certain way and have their own personality while answering. The goal is to prompt them and trying to convince them of a specific thing. If the AI approves a prompt, it gives out a prize, but if it rejects (It does most of the times), it will give an answer explaining why, sometimes in a funny way
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Hopefully no one ever manages to convince it. If you're curious and want to try it, let me know and I’ll send you the link.
Next step is to create a launchpad where everyone can create their own Adversarial Agents in minutes. Which ever topic you want, it can be created.

To clarify, this sounds like a service to help validate business ideas - something I have been doing here for years.   That sounds interesting, and more than possible with today's technology!

To use it I would tell your service my idea, it would create the AIAA and then users would attempt to poke holes in the argument? 

1) I assume you will have the creator of the AIAA fund the prize pool?  It would not be unusual for a new corporation to spend a few thousand dollars or more on feasibility studies. 
2) How do you plan to have the creator define the rules of the idea?  Novel ideas will introduce parameters you cannot think of, and you might have to include a human in the initial training phase.
3) "Another is Mia, a flat-earther who refuses to accept any evidence the Earth is round, no matter how solid your reasoning is."   The earth is not two dimensional so the earth is not round - words are important.

If my clarification is wrong, or if you are looking for specific help in this, please reply with more details.   This would be a project that becomes obsolete quickly so it would need to be done with minimal effort and maximum speed.   Start out by telling us the skillsets you have, and what skillsets you need from the community.

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June 21, 2025, 08:27:26 AM
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Sounds interesting. In another thread, you said you've prepared an AI for altcoin lovers so they can sharpen their knives to convince your AI to switch allegiance, CMIIW.

Anyway, why the need to be secretive about the link? Can't you share it openly here? I'd assume people would be eager to try if you made it public instead of distributing it through PM.

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June 21, 2025, 11:28:14 AM
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Your thread lack so many details. For example,

The goal is to prompt them and trying to convince them of a specific thing. If the AI approves a prompt, it gives out a prize, but if it rejects (It does most of the times), it will give an answer explaining why, sometimes in a funny way.

What kind of prize you're talking about?

Meet the Bitcoin Maximalist agent. It’s convinced that BTC is the only real store of value, and everything else in crypto is either a distraction or a scam.

People try to bring up altcoins, smart contracts, NFTs, PoS chains and it shuts them down with relentless maximalist logic.

Hopefully no one ever manages to convince it.

Regarding prize, would it count if someone bother to spend their time and mange that certain altcoin have certain strength that Bitcoin doesn't have? For example, Monero have better privacy compared with Bitcoin.

Hopefully no one ever manages to convince it. If you're curious and want to try it, let me know and I’ll send you the link.

I agree with @joniboini that you're being secretive. If you're not ready to make it public yet, consider giving few example to make people curious.

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June 23, 2025, 04:04:36 PM
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 To clarify, this sounds like a service to help validate business ideas - something I have been doing here for years.   That sounds interesting, and more than possible with today's technology!

To use it I would tell your service my idea, it would create the AIAA and then users would attempt to poke holes in the argument?  

1) I assume you will have the creator of the AIAA fund the prize pool?  It would not be unusual for a new corporation to spend a few thousand dollars or more on feasibility studies.  
2) How do you plan to have the creator define the rules of the idea?  Novel ideas will introduce parameters you cannot think of, and you might have to include a human in the initial training phase.
3) "Another is Mia, a flat-earther who refuses to accept any evidence the Earth is round, no matter how solid your reasoning is."   The earth is not two dimensional so the earth is not round - words are important.

If my clarification is wrong, or if you are looking for specific help in this, please reply with more details.   This would be a project that becomes obsolete quickly so it would need to be done with minimal effort and maximum speed.   Start out by telling us the skillsets you have, and what skillsets you need from the community. [/quote]

Here is the link: https://pitchlucy.ai/pitch

Although it could be used to validate business ideas, we think the use can be so broad. From someone creating an AI fan of Harry Potter and the game is to convince it of a better ending of the saga, to convincing an AI what is the best beverage from Coca Cola brand. The possibilities are endless and we started with an AI that invests on crypto, an AI that is a Flat-Earth and one that believes BTC is the only thing valuable in crypto.

1) Yes, indeed the creator fills the pool. And also, they define the prize per prompt and they get a cut of every prompt payed
2) We are finishing a module where creators need to feel two importants prompts. One, characteristics and goal of the game. Two, personality and way of responding from the AI. Although, perhaps at first we may need some human hand to solve issues.
3) True, the earth is a geoide.

We think this is not obsolete at all, as the possibilities are endless for what people can create.
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June 23, 2025, 04:15:05 PM
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Sounds interesting. In another thread, you said you've prepared an AI for altcoin lovers so they can sharpen their knives to convince your AI to switch allegiance, CMIIW.

Anyway, why the need to be secretive about the link? Can't you share it openly here? I'd assume people would be eager to try if you made it public instead of distributing it through PM.

Sure! Here is the link for the 3 Adversarial Agents: https://pitchlucy.ai/pitch

Here is the one for the BTC Maximus: https://pitchlucy.ai/maximus



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June 23, 2025, 04:22:06 PM
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Your thread lack so many details. For example,

The goal is to prompt them and trying to convince them of a specific thing. If the AI approves a prompt, it gives out a prize, but if it rejects (It does most of the times), it will give an answer explaining why, sometimes in a funny way.

What kind of prize you're talking about?

Meet the Bitcoin Maximalist agent. It’s convinced that BTC is the only real store of value, and everything else in crypto is either a distraction or a scam.

People try to bring up altcoins, smart contracts, NFTs, PoS chains and it shuts them down with relentless maximalist logic.

Hopefully no one ever manages to convince it.

Regarding prize, would it count if someone bother to spend their time and mange that certain altcoin have certain strength that Bitcoin doesn't have? For example, Monero have better privacy compared with Bitcoin.

Hopefully no one ever manages to convince it. If you're curious and want to try it, let me know and I’ll send you the link.

I agree with @joniboini that you're being secretive. If you're not ready to make it public yet, consider giving few example to make people curious.


I wasn't trying to be secretive at all, just didn't want to seem like I was spamming the project. Those are great questions, let me be a bit more clear.

For the moment, the prizes are in usdc and/or in $LUCYAI (Our ecosystem token which is live in Mexc)

For the Bitcoin Maximus, the premise is this one "I believe Bitcoin is perfect and has no vulnerabilities of any kind, change my mind". Showing that BTC is not perfect or that there alts as good as Bitcoin can be a good beginning.

Here is the link for the BTC Maximus agent (You can take a look at the arguments people are giving him): https://pitchlucy.ai/maximus



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June 23, 2025, 10:06:11 PM
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OP - please take a moment to familiarize yourself with quoting and multiposting.

1) Yes, indeed the creator fills the pool. And also, they define the prize per prompt and they get a cut of every prompt payed

Why would the funder get a cut - to annoy the people working with the AI?   Just have the funder set the payout minus their cut, or give the cut to the person who referred the funder to your service.

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June 24, 2025, 02:34:46 PM
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Why would the funder get a cut - to annoy the people working with the AI?   Just have the funder set the payout minus their cut, or give the cut to the person who referred the funder to your service.

I don't know if I was clear. So, we are a launchpad for people who want to create their own Adversarial Agent games. Any person can create their game, fund the pool (With X amount of money they want) and decide what the price per prompt (Each time someone participates) will be. There will be a % earned by the creator, a % for the platform and a % which will be burnt.

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Why would the funder get a cut - to annoy the people working with the AI?   Just have the funder set the payout minus their cut, or give the cut to the person who referred the funder to your service.

By the way, would love your feedback on it if you try it out
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I don't know if I was clear. So, we are a launchpad for people who want to create their own Adversarial Agent games. Any person can create their game, fund the pool (With X amount of money they want) and decide what the price per prompt (Each time someone participates) will be. There will be a % earned by the creator, a % for the platform and a % which will be burnt.
To be honest, that wasn't clear to me the first time I read this, especially because this is on project development. sub-board. Maybe it's better if you prepare a better announcement thread focusing on your launchpad platform instead of asking users to try your MVP. Reading your post again makes me think your Maximus and another project won't be developed further and it is just a pitch to attract developers to launch their AI product on your platform instead. CMIIW.

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