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June 20, 2025, 09:00:06 AM
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Hi  Smiley

I created a browser game where you battle with tanks against other players. You pay a small fee to enter and can win part of a larger pot if you win (also free game options exist to try it out). It's pretty self-explanatory (WASD or arrow keys to move, mouse click to shoot). The main reason I started working on it is because I wanted to get more familiar with integrating Lightning ⚡ micro payments in real-world applications. I love the technology and am a fan despite many people discounting Lightning UX as bad. I think it's on the right track though.

Happy to hear what you think!

https://satoshi-strike.com/

The current version comes with the following features:

User Accounts

Setting up an account is really just choosing a nickname and password and you are good to go. No mail confirmations or similar needed. You can have as many accounts as you want. Just choose the nickname you like, enter a password and click register and your account is created. I am aware that the login page might be still a bit confusing. Appreciate feedback on how to improve that.  Smiley

Gameplay: https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/06/09/UdQ6K8.png
Login: https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/06/09/UdQRH3.png

Wallet

You have a wallet inside the game. That means you don't have to to do a Lightning transaction before every game and withdraw after every game, disrupting the flow. You simply fund the wallet once, play as long as you like, all deductions and earnings are debited and credited to your wallet as you play, and finally you can withdraw again to self-custody.

Wallet: https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/06/09/UdQTsw.png

Improved UX

You can see the current state of all waiting rooms before entering them. When you enter a waiting room, the entrance fee is only blocked in your wallet but not deducted. You can leave the waiting room at any time and at no cost. Only when a waiting room fills up and the game really starts, is the fee deducted from your wallet. (Of course, this does not apply to free game options)

Lobby: https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/06/09/UdQt79.png

New Game Modes

Instead of just 1v1 arenas, I added more game modes (different fee levels, more players, etc.). This can be easily extended. If you want a 10v10 arena, let me know  Grin

Demo Mode & Training

Also, I added two free arenas for practice. One is 1v1 where you can play and train with a friend without risking any sats. The other free arena is with a bot that I programmed (not extremely good, but okay for practice) that you can practice with at any time.

Mobile Version

Also, the new version is playable on mobile as this has been a request by many. Instead of using keyboard and mouse, a joystick is displayed on the screen and you tap the screen to shoot.

Mobile View: https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/06/09/UdQFaN.png


PS: I initially posted this in the gambling section but was recommended to post it here since it really is not a casino or gambling site at all which I totally agree with. Also, it is a passion project of mine that I work on in my free time and not a business. Just wanted to get this out of the way, since a lot of people in the gambling section expected it to be a business with 24/7 support. I will do my best to answer all requests here though.  Smiley
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June 20, 2025, 10:08:16 AM
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I created a browser game where you battle with tanks against other players. You pay a small fee to enter and can win part of a larger pot if you win (also free game options exist to try it out). It's pretty self-explanatory (WASD or arrow keys to move, mouse click to shoot). The main reason I started working on it is because I wanted to get more familiar with integrating Lightning ⚡ micro payments in real-world applications. I love the technology and am a fan despite many people discounting Lightning UX as bad. I think it's on the right track though.
It's my dream to earn money with gaming without streaming online. Since my childhood, I've been dreaming to play PES or any other P2P game online with money. I was also playing World Of Tank and Tankionline at some point in my life and I loved these games a lot. Now, after reading this post, I immediately imagined that finally one of my wish would come true and I'd be able to play a game like Tankionline and World Of tanks online with money but after seeing the gameplay, I felt very hurted and depressed. I saw the gameplay and this is not what I was expecting, this is a very simple HTML game. I was expecting something cool with action.

I'm sorry, but I feel heartbroken. Btw wish you good luck and success, I hope this will turn into something big because if it stays this way, I can't imagine who will play this game. Sorry again and good luck.

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June 20, 2025, 02:10:27 PM
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I created a browser game where you battle with tanks against other players. You pay a small fee to enter and can win part of a larger pot if you win (also free game options exist to try it out). It's pretty self-explanatory (WASD or arrow keys to move, mouse click to shoot). The main reason I started working on it is because I wanted to get more familiar with integrating Lightning ⚡ micro payments in real-world applications. I love the technology and am a fan despite many people discounting Lightning UX as bad. I think it's on the right track though.
It's my dream to earn money with gaming without streaming online. Since my childhood, I've been dreaming to play PES or any other P2P game online with money. I was also playing World Of Tank and Tankionline at some point in my life and I loved these games a lot. Now, after reading this post, I immediately imagined that finally one of my wish would come true and I'd be able to play a game like Tankionline and World Of tanks online with money but after seeing the gameplay, I felt very hurted and depressed. I saw the gameplay and this is not what I was expecting, this is a very simple HTML game. I was expecting something cool with action.

I'm sorry, but I feel heartbroken. Btw wish you good luck and success, I hope this will turn into something big because if it stays this way, I can't imagine who will play this game. Sorry again and good luck.

Sorry you did not like it, but no need to be heartbroken Wink
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June 20, 2025, 10:00:34 PM
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PS: I initially posted this in the gambling section but was recommended to post it here since it really is not a casino or gambling site at all which I totally agree with. Also, it is a passion project of mine that I work on in my free time and not a business. Just wanted to get this out of the way, since a lot of people in the gambling section expected it to be a business with 24/7 support. I will do my best to answer all requests here though.  Smiley

First of all, it is a gambling website.  You must pay to play, and you are not guaranteed your money back.   Who would have told you this wasn't gambling and would have recommended you post an active site requesting real payment in Project Development?  I'm guessing we won't get any answer to that, but you should move this thread to Gambling.  I am telling you it doesn't belong here, and you can quote me on that.

Second, I agree with shield132.  If this is a passion project, why would you produce a vanilla game probably written by AI?    Looks to me like a quick project you already completed to make secondary income.    I like the idea, but you should show us your passion and not concentrate so much on making $.  Did the lighting integration even take up any significant portion of this project?

Finally, no regulation, no oversight and no way to recover your money should the website have a planned/unplanned hack/inside job or whatever, which would probably happen at the peak of the marketing plan when the amount of bitcoin in their custody also peaks.     Your passion is not a developing project, and this thread does not belong here - your site should have the same exposure and chances as every other gambling site so newbies do not expect additional security.  Please move it.


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PS: I initially posted this in the gambling section but was recommended to post it here since it really is not a casino or gambling site at all which I totally agree with. Also, it is a passion project of mine that I work on in my free time and not a business. Just wanted to get this out of the way, since a lot of people in the gambling section expected it to be a business with 24/7 support. I will do my best to answer all requests here though.  Smiley

First you are the developer of this platform so you should be the one to know the classification of your platform if you think that this is a gambling platform then defend it's place in the board, second this is a developer section where new projects are in beta and alpha phase.

Vod is right in his opinion that its doesn't belong here, there's another section where your platform belongs and this is the MicroEarnings
I saw some platforms similar to yours so check if you think that's the best section ofr your platform.

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June 21, 2025, 05:59:29 PM
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PS: I initially posted this in the gambling section but was recommended to post it here since it really is not a casino or gambling site at all which I totally agree with. Also, it is a passion project of mine that I work on in my free time and not a business. Just wanted to get this out of the way, since a lot of people in the gambling section expected it to be a business with 24/7 support. I will do my best to answer all requests here though.  Smiley

First you are the developer of this platform so you should be the one to know the classification of your platform if you think that this is a gambling platform then defend it's place in the board, second this is a developer section where new projects are in beta and alpha phase.

Vod is right in his opinion that its doesn't belong here, there's another section where your platform belongs and this is the MicroEarnings
I saw some platforms similar to yours so check if you think that's the best section ofr your platform.

It's definitely not a gambling site. Gambling is defined as a game of chance. This is clearly a skills based game and therefore not a casino or anything similar. Nonetheless, the other available sections did also not seem right for me, hence I posted in gambling first. I will have a look at Micro Earnings though.
In any case, the people over at gambling recommended this as the right section.

PS: I initially posted this in the gambling section but was recommended to post it here since it really is not a casino or gambling site at all which I totally agree with. Also, it is a passion project of mine that I work on in my free time and not a business. Just wanted to get this out of the way, since a lot of people in the gambling section expected it to be a business with 24/7 support. I will do my best to answer all requests here though.  Smiley

First of all, it is a gambling website.  You must pay to play, and you are not guaranteed your money back.   Who would have told you this wasn't gambling and would have recommended you post an active site requesting real payment in Project Development?  I'm guessing we won't get any answer to that, but you should move this thread to Gambling.  I am telling you it doesn't belong here, and you can quote me on that.

Second, I agree with shield132.  If this is a passion project, why would you produce a vanilla game probably written by AI?    Looks to me like a quick project you already completed to make secondary income.    I like the idea, but you should show us your passion and not concentrate so much on making $.  Did the lighting integration even take up any significant portion of this project?

Finally, no regulation, no oversight and no way to recover your money should the website have a planned/unplanned hack/inside job or whatever, which would probably happen at the peak of the marketing plan when the amount of bitcoin in their custody also peaks.     Your passion is not a developing project, and this thread does not belong here - your site should have the same exposure and chances as every other gambling site so newbies do not expect additional security.  Please move it.



See me comment above. Not gambling. Also, you can play for free, there is no requirement to pay anything. And yes, it's a passion project. Inspired by a similar retro game from my childhood that, obviously, had no multiplayer back then. And I clearly reject your accusations it being some AI slop and me having ulterior motives. A real-time online multiplayer with lightning integration is not something you can one-shot vibe code today and expect it to work. Maybe in some years but I recommend you try now. Furthermore, even if you play in one of the paid arenas, you risk a couple sats that you can withdraw immediately after the game. Of course, it's your prerogative not to do that.
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June 21, 2025, 08:29:11 PM
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PS: I initially posted this in the gambling section but was recommended to post it here since it really is not a casino or gambling site at all which I totally agree with. Also, it is a passion project of mine that I work on in my free time and not a business. Just wanted to get this out of the way, since a lot of people in the gambling section expected it to be a business with 24/7 support. I will do my best to answer all requests here though.  Smiley

First you are the developer of this platform so you should be the one to know the classification of your platform if you think that this is a gambling platform then defend it's place in the board, second this is a developer section where new projects are in beta and alpha phase.

Vod is right in his opinion that its doesn't belong here, there's another section where your platform belongs and this is the MicroEarnings
I saw some platforms similar to yours so check if you think that's the best section ofr your platform.

It's definitely not a gambling site. Gambling is defined as a game of chance. This is clearly a skills based game and therefore not a casino or anything similar. Nonetheless, the other available sections did also not seem right for me, hence I posted in gambling first. I will have a look at Micro Earnings though.
In any case, the people over at gambling recommended this as the right section.
Yes, it sounds more like a micro earning service, like various faucets with different methods of claiming rewards.
How fatherly you planned the monetization so that the service could be functional on its own without constant investment in the bankroll?

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June 21, 2025, 08:44:53 PM
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It's a simple game, I don't see how it could keep someone playing for a long time. If you tell me it's just an MVP, that's fine, I can overlook a lot of things, but if it's the final product, I saw a problem that, in my opinion, makes me suspicious. Who is the wallet being held by? By you? Since you said you're a technology lover, you could create an integration for the player to connect their own wallet and maybe even charge a small fee to keep the project active. I don't see any problem in wanting to profit from something that took time, knowledge, and money to maintain (hosting, domain, etc.).

You could base it on some of these games, they are simple but with a look that might be more interesting for players: https://poki.com/en/tanks

 
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June 21, 2025, 09:27:23 PM
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Who is the wallet being held by? By you? Since you said you're a technology lover, you could create an integration for the player to connect their own wallet and maybe even charge a small fee to keep the project active.

He claims it's a passion project for the lightning network.  Yet the amount of time he spent on coding the lightning part was negligible.  When you lose your coin on this platform, I would expect the customer support to be as honest as the announcement. 

Everyone here knows I protect real projects from being saturated with scam projects, so I have tagged the OP after he ignored warnings.

See me comment above. Not gambling.

See a dictionary.  Gambling.

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June 21, 2025, 11:41:11 PM
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I agree with the post above; it's still gambling because it requires a fee to win something. It isn't earning for free; you are still risking something to be able to earn the pot. There's no big difference in playing digital poker that's based on skill-based games and considered gambling.

Look at this image:



Even if it is player vs. player, it has a fee of 10 sats to 50 sats. The free one is the training ground with a pot of 0 sats. Training ground is supposed to be just your demo.

I tried to play the demo one with a bot, and honestly, it's hard to win on the game. Once I got hit by the enemy bullet, I lost immediately, but when I tried to attack the bot and got hit multiple times, it didn't die, and my bullets are limited to, I guess, 10 shots; it will reload for more than 3 seconds and lots of movement delays.



The tank retro game is way better to play than this.

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June 22, 2025, 02:02:55 PM
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I think OP probably has good intentions with their project, but maybe hasn't presented or framed it in the best way (gambling issue etc).

At the end of the day, I think trust is the biggest issue, and a game like this is likely (regrettably) better suited to a blockchain with more advanced smart contracting abilities, where management of the pots can be fully trustless and fair.

With regards to the game itself - there is fairly significant input lag that I'm confident is not just me. I'm guessing client inputs are sent to the server and the game is only updated to reflect the server state? You should implement client side prediction and interpolate the client state with the server state, so the player can get immediate feedback for their actions. For such a simple game, it shouldn't be too much of a headache, and it'll make the gameplay feel a lot more smooth  Smiley

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PS: I initially posted this in the gambling section but was recommended to post it here since it really is not a casino or gambling site at all which I totally agree with. Also, it is a passion project of mine that I work on in my free time and not a business. Just wanted to get this out of the way, since a lot of people in the gambling section expected it to be a business with 24/7 support. I will do my best to answer all requests here though.  Smiley

First you are the developer of this platform so you should be the one to know the classification of your platform if you think that this is a gambling platform then defend it's place in the board, second this is a developer section where new projects are in beta and alpha phase.

Vod is right in his opinion that its doesn't belong here, there's another section where your platform belongs and this is the MicroEarnings
I saw some platforms similar to yours so check if you think that's the best section ofr your platform.

It's definitely not a gambling site. Gambling is defined as a game of chance. This is clearly a skills based game and therefore not a casino or anything similar. Nonetheless, the other available sections did also not seem right for me, hence I posted in gambling first. I will have a look at Micro Earnings though.
In any case, the people over at gambling recommended this as the right section.
Yes, it sounds more like a micro earning service, like various faucets with different methods of claiming rewards.
How fatherly you planned the monetization so that the service could be functional on its own without constant investment in the bankroll?

Hi, not sure I completely understand the question? Could you rephrase it?

It's a simple game, I don't see how it could keep someone playing for a long time. If you tell me it's just an MVP, that's fine, I can overlook a lot of things, but if it's the final product, I saw a problem that, in my opinion, makes me suspicious. Who is the wallet being held by? By you? Since you said you're a technology lover, you could create an integration for the player to connect their own wallet and maybe even charge a small fee to keep the project active. I don't see any problem in wanting to profit from something that took time, knowledge, and money to maintain (hosting, domain, etc.).

You could base it on some of these games, they are simple but with a look that might be more interesting for players: https://poki.com/en/tanks

Thank you, very appreciated. It's certainly some kind of MVP. Further development depends a bit on my time and general user interest though. Regarding the wallet, if you are very paranoid, you could just only keep enough there to pay for a single game and then withdraw. That you can keep more than that is just a convenience feature. In the first version, you had to pay before every game which was a bit more cumbersome. Wallet integrations is certainly something I have on the roadmap though not but with extremely high prio. If you just have a couple hundred sats there, the risk is limited in my opinion but of course everyone needs to decide themselves.

Who is the wallet being held by? By you? Since you said you're a technology lover, you could create an integration for the player to connect their own wallet and maybe even charge a small fee to keep the project active.

He claims it's a passion project for the lightning network.  Yet the amount of time he spent on coding the lightning part was negligible.  When you lose your coin on this platform, I would expect the customer support to be as honest as the announcement. 

Everyone here knows I protect real projects from being saturated with scam projects, so I have tagged the OP after he ignored warnings.

See me comment above. Not gambling.

See a dictionary.  Gambling.

How would you know how much time I spent on a feature?  Cheesy

On gambling, Wikipedia says: Gambling is the wagering of something of value on a random event with the intent of winning something else of value.
There is no randomness in the game aside from map layout generation. It is not gambling, no matter how often you claim the opposite.

I agree with the post above; it's still gambling because it requires a fee to win something. It isn't earning for free; you are still risking something to be able to earn the pot. There's no big difference in playing digital poker that's based on skill-based games and considered gambling.

Look at this image:

https://talkimg.com/images/2025/06/22/UuNdXD.png

Even if it is player vs. player, it has a fee of 10 sats to 50 sats. The free one is the training ground with a pot of 0 sats. Training ground is supposed to be just your demo.

I tried to play the demo one with a bot, and honestly, it's hard to win on the game. Once I got hit by the enemy bullet, I lost immediately, but when I tried to attack the bot and got hit multiple times, it didn't die, and my bullets are limited to, I guess, 10 shots; it will reload for more than 3 seconds and lots of movement delays.

https://talkimg.com/images/2025/06/22/UuNwhZ.png

The tank retro game is way better to play than this.

Thank you for your feedback. Well, it should not be easy to win but when you hit the bot it should definitely die immediately. I have not encountered this situation so far. Can you describe in more detail how it happened?

I think OP probably has good intentions with their project, but maybe hasn't presented or framed it in the best way (gambling issue etc).

At the end of the day, I think trust is the biggest issue, and a game like this is likely (regrettably) better suited to a blockchain with more advanced smart contracting abilities, where management of the pots can be fully trustless and fair.

With regards to the game itself - there is fairly significant input lag that I'm confident is not just me. I'm guessing client inputs are sent to the server and the game is only updated to reflect the server state? You should implement client side prediction and interpolate the client state with the server state, so the player can get immediate feedback for their actions. For such a simple game, it shouldn't be too much of a headache, and it'll make the gameplay feel a lot more smooth  Smiley

Thank you very much. Yes, your assumption is absolutely correct. Inputs are sent to the server where the state is updated and then updates are communicated back to the client. Client-side prediction is something I have on the roadmap. Smiley But yeah, depends a bit on my time. It's funny, I released a v1 of it a while ago with mostly positive feedback on another site. v2 here is like v1 just with some convenience features added but feedback is mostly negative for basically the same game. ^^

I will think a bit about it.

My view is that it is such a low stakes scenario that increasing trustlessness really does not matter that much. Each player will at most risk a couple cents worth of money. Even if there were thousands or tens of thousands of players (a very very very optimistic scenario) there would be maybe a couple hundred dollars circulating on the platform. If someone wanted to scam people, this would be really one of the most inefficient ways imaginable to do it imo.

It should be a fun and casual browser game. For that the gameplay should be responsive and entertaining. The latter part was where I got quite some positive feedback from people who actually played with friends or other real players in v1. The first part is definitely something to be improved, I agree.
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June 23, 2025, 11:51:14 PM
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On gambling, Wikipedia says: Gambling is the wagering of something of value on a random event with the intent of winning something else of value.
There is no randomness in the game aside from map layout generation. It is not gambling, no matter how often you claim the opposite.

People playing your game have stated random events stopped them from winning, not skill.   It is gambling, no matter what definition you take out of context.

Anyway, you are a stubborn person, like most newbies entering the forum.  You will not listen to the wiser voices telling you where this things belong.   Hundreds of hours have been spent debating and categorizing threads, but you don't want to be just another developer - you want special attention.  

I would wish good luck but there is probably no legal entity to receive it.

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