Pizza vote for merit ?

[Awaklara]

OMG, this is terrible. I don't blame the user sending those merits for people that included his pizza in the voting process I ONLY blame those who compromised their genuine votes just for a single merit. Does it mean that 1 merit is difficult to earn in the forum 
WTF!!!

I am one of those who voted for pizza #114. I don't know what he did by giving 1 Merit for every user who voted for his Pizza. I just voted based on the picture available in the thread and didn't find out who made the pizza.
The point weight for that pizza will be reduced, and there is a possibility of other abuses that may be published at the end of the vote.

[nutildah]

Its a weird thing to do. There doesn't seem to be an explicit rule against it, but its a bit tacky, because whoever is doing it should know that the merit hounds will catch on to what is happening & direct all their accounts to vote for it.

I am one of those who voted for pizza #114. I don't know what he did by giving 1 Merit for every user who voted for his Pizza. I just voted based on the picture available in the thread and didn't find out who made the pizza.

To be fair, its a decent looking pizza... It looks like an actual pizza, which puts it in the top 10%, lol. Honestly I probably woulda voted for it but for some reason didn't notice it. Anyway I don't have to now, lol.

The point weight for that pizza will be reduced, and there is a possibility of other abuses that may be published at the end of the vote.

Will be interesting to see how its dealt with.

[lovesmayfamilis]

That is, not the favorite or best wins but the one who the community vote for whether through bribery and favors, the vote counts.

Personally, 1 merit isn't worth to get my vote.

This is very sad. Of course, it is difficult to argue about tastes; the desire to participate in such competitions completely disappears when you see the voting results. What constitutes beauty and fantasy receives fewer votes, only because the authors of beautiful pizzas do not have the support that pizzas created without taste and originality, and rather unappetizing, have. It is difficult to say whether those people are blind or some kind of agreement is simply at work. The second is more obvious.

[Bitcoin Smith]

Almost every reply now in the voting thread included the mentioned pizza and probably some did for real while most of them just to get that 1 merit. But here's a thing the user mentioned in OP doesn't seem to be a merit source so he will run out of sMerits to merit if hundreds of them decided to do it.

Even though there is no explicit rule the note mentioned in it can be used for such and if icopress consider this as any kind of violation or manipulating the voting process then there's always a chance for disqualification.

[acroman08]

Throughout June, public voting will be open, and any active user can participate. Please note that any contest entrant is not allowed to agitate for their pizza or veiledly ask anyone to vote for you. For the voting system to work, any nominated pizza must have the support of at least three users. This year, 144 users took part in the contest, 2 of which were excluded from the voting for various reasons.

If argued, what 5tift is doing could fall to "agitate for their pizza" as he gives merit to people who vote for his pizza.

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I didn't know this was possible to be put on posts here in the forum(or maybe I just didn't notice), I just learned something new.

[uchegod-21]

Almost every reply now in the voting thread included the mentioned pizza and probably some did for real while most of them just to get that 1 merit. But here's a thing the user mentioned in OP doesn't seem to be a merit source so he will run out of sMerits to merit if hundreds of them decided to do it.

He should be a merit source. It is not easy to be giving such merits as a non merit source. Unless he has banked those for so long waiting for this pizza contest which I don't think will be the case.

[PX-Z]

Looks like a "Thank you" way of meriting posts. Nonetheless the user's action does not fall to any competition's rules or merit abuse. Based on the user's merit history, he sent total of 22x merit on pizza submission day probably on each submission post, and 43x on voting thread.

[mikeywith]

I always wonder, where do some of you find all the time to do this intensive digging for such silly things? 😄

Anyway, you made two accusations, and at least one of them is wrong.

Accusation 1: People voting for 114 pizza just for merit

This one is wrong. I can point to at least one person who I know for sure wouldn't have done it for that reason > Cygan.

Accusation 2: He sends merit to all his voters

This is questionable at best because he did not send merit to all his voters. The fact that he only sent merit to his voters is a separate issue.

My take on this is that he shouldn't be doing this if we want to maintain a totally fair play. Although, by the looks of it -- and his own vote -- he just seems a bit too passionate about this whole pizza thing. I don't see any malicious intent.

[LoyceV]

Is the user Merit-source ??

It seems, there is a big difference between 'Sent' & 'Earned'.

He should be a merit source. It is not easy to be giving such merits as a non merit source.

Since this keeps coming up: BPIP shows he sent 603 Merits, and earned 1050. That means he earned 525 sMerits, and he was a Hero member when the Merit system started. He probably got more than 78 sMerits airdropped, so I don't think he's a Merit source.

[babo]

If I remember correctly, there is a rule that says that you don't have to deserve anyone in a pizza contest.
so i don't understand the point of hitting yourself in the testicles with a hammer

I don't understand why the interested party didn't participate in the discussion here, but only in the pizza contest discussion
in any case it makes me laugh

[GeorgeJohn]

Let us be realistic here, the fact is that most of the people that voted 114, they did that because of 5tift 1 merit, it's obvious that many voters voted 114 because of a merit not because of credibility, because they're so many good pizza images there that's more better than 114, but nevertheless it's a party of politics, you use what you have to get what you want, assuming it was stated categorically that nobody should use giving out merit to buy voters it would have be good, but I don't think that such rules and regulations is in the pizza contest, but it's good for people to vote with their conscience instead of been bias for voting because of a merit.

[uchegod-21]

Accusation 1: People voting for 114 pizza just for merit

This one is wrong. I can point to at least one person who I know for sure wouldn't have done it for that reason > Cygan.

It's sounds funny but I had to vote for him. It is a sympathy vote. I read that his vote would be weighted by 0.5, which means he is getting half of all the votes he merited. So, I decided to include him in one of my options. Besides, he made a nice and simple pizza.

Op, you might consider to lock this thread because it could also give him more exposure and people like me might also be giving him a sympathy vote

[dderekwalcott]

In my opinion, since the report was made by creating a new account, it means that he reported anonymously for personal safety, so his report may be okay but its importance is reduced. If someone really wants to report and does not want to do it from his main account for security reasons or to keep his personal identity secret, then he can create a new account. But this is not necessary. In most cases, it is better to report from the main account, because it has more credibility.
To me, this is limited abuse and will not affect the results, so it can also be considered that the account may have been created to earn some merit and the report may not have been necessary if it did not cause any major problems. Although these things were not within the rules of the campaign, now let's see what the moderator does.

[JollyGood]

Well, it certainly does not look good even if the merits involved are tiny. It seems to be against the spirit of the pizza day competition but having said that as far as I know it was not against any specific entry rule. This might be something that icopress can think about for next year because I think by explicitly specifying the rules it will remove a repetitive drama next year.

[babo]

Well, it certainly does not look good even if the merits involved are tiny. It seems to be against the spirit of the pizza day competition but having said that as far as I know it was not against any specific entry rule. This might be something that icopress can think about for next year because I think by explicitly specifying the rules it will remove a repetitive drama next year.

the drama comes from the fact that everyone is visualizing the prize without being sporty
I liked it when you didn't win anything, just the little pizza icon at the top of your username and you could laugh and joke and make fun of people
now the pizzas have improved a lot, they are all very beautiful.. but it has become a serious thing

I don't know if you understand what I mean
I already have enough problems in real life to have problems here too

[Lillominato89]

Well, it certainly does not look good even if the merits involved are tiny. It seems to be against the spirit of the pizza day competition but having said that as far as I know it was not against any specific entry rule. This might be something that icopress can think about for next year because I think by explicitly specifying the rules it will remove a repetitive drama next year.

the drama comes from the fact that everyone is visualizing the prize without being sporty
I liked it when you didn't win anything, just the little pizza icon at the top of your username and you could laugh and joke and make fun of people
now the pizzas have improved a lot, they are all very beautiful.. but it has become a serious thing

I don't know if you understand what I mean
I already have enough problems in real life to have problems here too

It would be enough to make a list of well-defined rules before the competition begins and many dramas would not occur.
 I think that this edition of pizza day has already had enough things to fix and take into account for next year, if the good icopress proposes the competition again next year
Giving Merit to get votes is a real abuse, and it's like if in a football match one of the two teams asks the referee to let them win in exchange for a prize! It's not fair, It's a violation of the rules! It's an unequal challenge! And this is also true in this contest, icopress consider putting in your to do list to create well-defined rules for the next year.

[bitmover]

People have no shame I guess. When people make up the rules for a contest it's hard to think of everything until they see things being exploited. Maybe the rules will change for next year's contest. Looks like ico has tried to combat this so not much to d o but let the contest happen as is or disqualify the pizza. I personally would not include merit for anything to do with voting from here on out.

Looks an obvious abuse in my opinion.

It would be a good move to just disqualify the pizza... I understand there isn't a specific rule for giving merits to who voted for you, but that is clearly an abuse. The manager cant predict every type of abuse beforehand

[Becassine]

I know you feel (feeling that you will lose). I understand you may have put a lot of effort to come out with a good Pizza for the competition. But the rules are the rules. Icopress has set the rules and as long as what they do dont go against the rules, the vote counts.

Your national presidential election and other local election is enough to teach what happens when voting power is giving to the community. That is, not the favorite or best wins but the one who the community vote for whether through bribery and favors, the vote counts.

Personally, 1 merit isn't worth to get my vote.

Politicians who win elections are often also those who have the most money. If those with the most merits win, then there is no point in others participating because they have no chance of winning, especially since we earn much less merits in local sections, which can eventually, in some cases, contribute to the death of local sections if everyone starts hunting for merits.

[dkbit98]

There is always some drama with merits in bitcointalk forum, and if I remember correctly this is not the first time something like this happened in voting competitions.
It's weird to me that someone would track every page in that topic and merit every member who voted for his pizza number.

It would be a good move to just disqualify the pizza... I understand there isn't a specific rule for giving merits to who voted for you, but that is clearly an abuse. The manager cant predict every type of abuse beforehand

I wouldn't disqualify him now, but I would introduce some new rule update for merits.

[Majestic-milf]

OMG, this is terrible. I don't blame the user sending those merits for people that included his pizza in the voting process I ONLY blame those who compromised their genuine votes just for a single merit. Does it mean that 1 merit is difficult to earn in the forum  
WTF!!!

So how many merits should count as enough to sell your vote because it seems that their integrity needs to compromised for something worthy?
Everybody has their reasons for " selling" their votes for just one merit because to them, its hard getting merits ordinarily so if they can cast their vote to this user and get merits, what's the deal?
 From what has been said, it's not like he went to all these users DMs to bribe them with the promise of one merit if they vote his pizza, he just gave them cause they did and the others, like bees to honey, went along, is it bad? Yes. Is he aware that he's cheating technically? I don't know if not I don't think he would have continued till he was noticed.