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Author Topic: Will there ever be a 100%RTP 0% house edge game or casino ?  (Read 300 times)
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June 23, 2025, 09:11:49 AM
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Genuinely curious if this could ever be a possibility one way or the other. Feel like it would be very popular. But it will probably never happen  Embarrassed
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June 23, 2025, 10:13:04 AM
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Genuinely curious if this could ever be a possibility one way or the other. Feel like it would be very popular. But it will probably never happen  Embarrassed

Look at it this way: casinos are a business, regardless they are online or brick and mortar casinos. They need to have profits in order to keep themselves in business, they have employees to pay, facilities to keep clean, servers to pay, cyber security personnel to pay each month and taxes to give to their local governments. So the simple answer is: no.
It would not happen because it would be unprofitable to them and it could be translated in losses in the short term.

It could be possible for casinos to hold some kind of "happy hour" in which they drop their edge to zero and increase their RTP to 100%, but only for a short period of time, and for advertising purposes, that would indeed catch the attention of gamblers and it would increase the volume of the casino.

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June 23, 2025, 10:30:56 AM
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Genuinely curious if this could ever be a possibility one way or the other. Feel like it would be very popular. But it will probably never happen  Embarrassed
Maybe it could happen if the casinos are charity homes but they are not, so therefore, it will never happen, because they are just like every other business venture which needs to stay in profits to continue running the daily affairs of the business. A zero house edge makes them vulnerable and that includes a 100% RTP too. So OP, stop dreaming and face the reality.

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June 23, 2025, 10:47:04 AM
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Just search in Bitcointalk. Roulete with 0% Edge or 100% RTP.

It's not new at all, but in the end the busines scheme is not work. The success casino is always how they can give the player: faster withdraw, big bonus, and more... thats was the most important for the user.

Believe me, even with 5% edge the player still played on those casino.

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June 23, 2025, 10:52:41 AM
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Genuinely curious if this could ever be a possibility one way or the other. Feel like it would be very popular. But it will probably never happen  Embarrassed
Maybe it could happen if the casinos are charity homes but they are not, so therefore, it will never happen, because they are just like every other business venture which needs to stay in profits to continue running the daily affairs of the business. A zero house edge makes them vulnerable and that includes a 100% RTP too. So OP, stop dreaming and face the reality.

Absolutely, casinos will never do that, their major aim is to make profit from gamblers and not to act as a charity home. Besides they are just like every conventional business owner whose aims is centered on profits, the only reason we see them running some incentives programs and bonuses is to stand a better chance of attracting gamblers in the competitive market. And just like Hispo said they'll only make RPT 100% during their Ads to get those bettors who fall for easy tricks. Even the bonuses they give to bettors, they wish you loss it all back to the system.

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June 23, 2025, 11:06:00 AM
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Genuinely curious if this could ever be a possibility one way or the other. Feel like it would be very popular. But it will probably never happen  Embarrassed

I believe some casino offer this but on some games only such as their house game. Despite no house edge the game has less popularity since gamblers preferred new games such as slot and sportsbook rather than house game.

House edge is very minimal that’s why many gambler doesn’t consider it especially those low bankroll players that play short term.

I believe some casino still do some promotion about limited time no house edge on some of their games.

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June 23, 2025, 11:14:44 AM
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Genuinely curious if this could ever be a possibility one way or the other. Feel like it would be very popular. But it will probably never happen  Embarrassed
It is impossible for a casino to operate sustainably with 0% house edge. Everything costs money even from a decentralized type of casino. Nothing will continue to work without money. Not to mention that money is also needed to keep the casinos from being protected otherwise casinos would be vulnerable and easy to breach into.

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June 23, 2025, 11:15:09 AM
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Genuinely curious if this could ever be a possibility one way or the other. Feel like it would be very popular. But it will probably never happen  Embarrassed

Why would a casino exist without house edge? Every business needs sufficient revenue in order to maintain big enough profits.
RTP would probably disappear only when decentralized gambling becomes a thing and centralized online casinos go bankrupt(which might never happen).
In a decentralized gambling platform most games would be player vs. player and the only cost for the gamblers would be transaction fees(I'm assuming that the creators of such platform would leave it open source and non-profit, which is highly unlikely to happen).

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Genuinely curious if this could ever be a possibility one way or the other. Feel like it would be very popular. But it will probably never happen  Embarrassed

The casino offers you the software to play like Texas Holdem Poker where players play against each other and the casino gets a very minimal fee from each hand played and the fee is usually like from 0.01 to 0.10 percent. This I think will be as close as possible to the 100% theoretical RTP which you are asking here and that is because casinos operate like businesses and they are not charity. If you are not happy even with this player vs player approach I doubt you will find anything else near the 100% RTP being asked here simply because it does not exist. Well maybe there is a way and that is if you play demo mode  Grin.

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June 23, 2025, 12:18:16 PM
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Genuinely curious if this could ever be a possibility one way or the other. Feel like it would be very popular. But it will probably never happen  Embarrassed
It is impossible for a casino to operate sustainably with 0% house edge. Everything costs money even from a decentralized type of casino. Nothing will continue to work without money. Not to mention that money is also needed to keep the casinos from being protected otherwise casinos would be vulnerable and easy to breach into.


Not impossible since some casino offer no house edge in the past while they rely most of there win when player losing due to greed and human error on the game.

However, most of casino games nowadays is controlled by 3rd party including slots, live games and sportsbook so casino has no control the house edge/RTP set on each game by the provider.


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June 23, 2025, 12:18:50 PM
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Genuinely curious if this could ever be a possibility one way or the other. Feel like it would be very popular. But it will probably never happen  Embarrassed

I appreciate the fact that you have also answered the question yourself, because this is not possible, as long as its not possible for one to make a business and intentionally wish to fail and go into loss over it, they also need to make profits, then you also have to try out your best and luck, some are winning by these, but don't expect to get zero percent house edge on casino games, they will all go bankrupt and cease to serve us with games.

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June 23, 2025, 12:26:35 PM
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Genuinely curious if this could ever be a possibility one way or the other. Feel like it would be very popular. But it will probably never happen  Embarrassed
Maybe it could happen if the casinos are charity homes but they are not, so therefore, it will never happen, because they are just like every other business venture which needs to stay in profits to continue running the daily affairs of the business. A zero house edge makes them vulnerable and that includes a 100% RTP too. So OP, stop dreaming and face the reality.
even charity casinos would need money to build the casino and keep it running though the difference is only that they will not be getting the money from their players but most likely from donators and sponsors

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I understand, curiosity made you ask. However, if I were to be an aspiring casino owner, this is something I would look into, as it can be a perfect way to draw more people in using the platform. Although, the question still remains, how do I or anyone else can make profit if there is a 100%RTP?.. It is a very tricky one but I believe, it is almost impossible to see any casino like that and still there is nothing I see impossible because every platform will sure find a way to attract customers while they look for another means to extort money to cover their profits.

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Genuinely curious if this could ever be a possibility one way or the other. Feel like it would be very popular. But it will probably never happen  Embarrassed
No, it won't happen, ever as they are in the business of making money. We might even see them as really taking everyone's money, like a criminal when we play as we all know that we will lose our money to them. And it won't be popular, how can it be popular when people are winning and they as a business entity is losing? So this sounds like a wishful thinking to be honest. In this world there are no free money, maybe if you are very rich, you might want to donate your money when you die or be a Philanthropy like Bill and Melinda Gates. But for casino owners? Nah, I doubt that they will do that.

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June 23, 2025, 12:42:47 PM
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Genuinely curious if this could ever be a possibility one way or the other. Feel like it would be very popular. But it will probably never happen  Embarrassed
No, it would be foolish to operate like that. It’s not profitable anymore,  for casinos, that’s like running a charity. Even if it’s a 50-50 chance, where would they get the money to cover their operating expenses? They won’t allow that to happen.

The best they can do is increase the RTP, but not up to 100%.
Just enough to make it attractive to players, while still keeping some margin to make a profit.

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Genuinely curious if this could ever be a possibility one way or the other. Feel like it would be very popular. But it will probably never happen  Embarrassed
Casinos are businesses and like any other type of business they are designed to make a profit so it is very rare and probably almost impossible for a casino to offer 100% RTP to its customers and even if they do it is only temporary to attract new players to make their business more widely known, always remember in the long run the casino always has the edge and that is how they can survive and thrive.

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It may exist but high possibility for promotional purpose only and I think there were such promotions on dice game few years back but I cant really remember which dice sites that offer 0% house edge for promotion purpose.
In general, no casino will provide games without house edge for long time because they are business so they need to have an edge against players because it is the main advantage of the casino.
On other side, 0% house edge may happen in PvP based game such as coinflip but still there will be a fee on each played game round.

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Good question even if it sounds stupid. Gambling is a business that requires capital/fund for operational costs (servers, domains, etc.). To cover all costs & to make profit, they must take advantage of the bets made by users. So it is almost impossible to run without RTP & House Edge.

I say it as almost impossible because there is actually a scheme to still profit from the bets made, it is by implementing a blockchain system where every bet will be charged a fee & these fees will go to the validator (site owner is the sole validator). Then the fees collected can be used to cover the operational costs. Straight to the point, I'm talking about layer 2 blockchain.
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Some things are not possible, because you cant stand to please others at your own expense or lost, casinos are known for making business in creating a gambling platform, so we should expect form them some level of fare policies and standards of operations that could make them achieve the best customers satisfaction together with their own profitability in running a platform, al these are what keeps us getting more interested in gambling because we want to try our way out to have fun and to test if we could win playing a game or not.
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If I am not wrong I have already seen something similar in the past or however very high RTP likewise 99.99%
However I think that could be impossible to trust a website for any % they claim.
You need to run thousands if not millions of runs and you can maybe just have a not an useful result (since each run could completely change the outcome....)



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