Would You Be Happy Earning 10% of Your Bankroll monthly?

[bakasabo]

From different perspective, there is no such thing as something constant in gambling (at least I dont believe in such thing), that making «earning 10% of bankroll monthly» as something impossible. Gambling is not an investment. Random and luck factors are what counters that «monthly» bankroll increase. That "earning 10%" can be a trap that lull vigilance, and a person thinks is safe to increase deposit, sets him up and he will lose all.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

I don't have a bankroll at the moment but I think it's not crazy for people who play poker or sports betting to get 10% a month. Winners I mean. Obviously more than 90% are losers.

After writing this I was curious to see what the AI was saying and it said no, for winners half of that, or even less, would be more realistic.

Poker
Level of Play                    Realistic Monthly ROI on Bankroll   Notes
Casual/Low Stakes Grinder    1%–5%                                           Soft games help, but volume is key. Swings can be brutal.
Strong/Semi-Pro            3%–8%                                           If you table-select and put in solid volume.
Elite/Pro                            5%–10% (some months)                   Very good players can hit 10%+ occasionally, but not consistently. Variance matters.
Tournaments                    All over the place                           Huge swings: you might lose for months, then hit a big score. ROI is high, but consistency is low.

Sports Betting
Type of Bettor   Realistic Monthly ROI on Bankroll   Notes
Recreational   Negative to 1%                                   Most bettors lose over time.
Semi/Sharp   1%–3%                                           Requires discipline, tracking, line shopping.
Pro/Sharp           2%–5% (on turnover)                   Sustainable, but you’ll have down months.
Syndicates/ High Volume Pros 1%–2% monthly on bankroll   Massive volume, small edge per bet, and excellent market timing.

[Z-tight]

Meaning, they don’t cash out their profits right away, they reinvest it as additional bankroll.

Reinvest in gambling? I'd surely not associate that term with betting, i don't know who these experts are or if there are experts in gambling like you say, but i am sure they do not have any crazy advantage over others like you make it seem. You could go crazy about gambling, try to figure out all the tiny nuances, find crazy strategies to beat the casino, etc, that does not make you an expert, treating gambling like an investment does more harm than good and you'd be lucky not to become an addict.

[mak013]

I don't have a bankroll at the moment but I think it's not crazy for people who play poker or sports betting to get 10% a month. Winners I mean. Obviously more than 90% are losers.

After writing this I was curious to see what the AI was saying and it said no, for winners half of that, or even less, would be more realistic.
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Sports Betting
Type of Bettor   Realistic Monthly ROI on Bankroll   Notes
Recreational   Negative to 1%                                   Most bettors lose over time.
Semi/Sharp   1%–3%                                           Requires discipline, tracking, line shopping.
Pro/Sharp           2%–5% (on turnover)                   Sustainable, but you’ll have down months.
Syndicates/ High Volume Pros 1%–2% monthly on bankroll   Massive volume, small edge per bet, and excellent market timing.

Don`t believe AI. It isn`t ideal, i catch his mistakes much more often than i want.
I don`t think that i`m Pro, and i can`t calculate correct my percent due to withdrawals, but i mostly made 5+% of monthly bankroll profit. So i think Pro bettors can get 10% profit monthly. Not easily but it is possible.

[stompix]

I don't have a bankroll at the moment but I think it's not crazy for people who play poker or sports betting to get 10% a month. Winners I mean. Obviously more than 90% are losers.

After writing this I was curious to see what the AI was saying and it said no, for winners half of that, or even less, would be more realistic.

Sports Betting
Type of Bettor   Realistic Monthly ROI on Bankroll   Notes
Recreational   Negative to 1%                                   Most bettors lose over time.
Semi/Sharp   1%–3%                                           Requires discipline, tracking, line shopping.
Pro/Sharp           2%–5% (on turnover)                   Sustainable, but you’ll have down months.
Syndicates/ High Volume Pros 1%–2% monthly on bankroll   Massive volume, small edge per bet, and excellent market timing.

I still kind of fail to see how this is measured...
You have a $1000 of bankroll, you supposedly need to make $20-$100 depending on the scenarios.

Now here is the problem, you win your first two bets for the month, you make $30 out of a 4x $10 bet and 2x$20 out of 2x 10 bets, your target is reached, well, your bankroll was at most $30, you never got to use more, so....the extra $970 just stayed on the side.
Digging deeper, let's assume you experience loss after loss after loss, you end up losing $980 in bets for the month, let me tell you from the start that with the last $20 you go back and make $1030 is just bs, this is straight fantasy level.

I don't think anyone calculated this on bankroll, more on the turnover, now that would make sense!
The bankroll thing in sports? Unless you're snipping all 1.01 odds and you need a huge bankroll to keep 100 bets alive and still have money till the winning are settled, to bet makes little sense in this math.

[Digifann1]

Meaning, they don’t cash out their profits right away, they reinvest it as additional bankroll.

Reinvest in gambling? I'd surely not associate that term with betting, i don't know who these experts are or if there are experts in gambling like you say, but i am sure they do not have any crazy advantage over others like you make it seem. You could go crazy about gambling, try to figure out all the tiny nuances, find crazy strategies to beat the casino, etc, that does not make you an expert, treating gambling like an investment does more harm than good and you'd be lucky not to become an addict.

What particular word is used is not that important, most people have English as their second language. How else would you call the act of putting back the profit to increase the bankroll, just more gambling?

Don`t believe AI. It isn`t ideal, i catch his mistakes much more often than i want.
I don`t think that i`m Pro, and i can`t calculate correct my percent due to withdrawals, but i mostly made 5+% of monthly bankroll profit. So i think Pro bettors can get 10% profit monthly. Not easily but it is possible.

There is no way that you are making that 5+% monthly profit consistently. Please share with us the story of how you got rich by gambling. 

[Crypto Library]

Experts treat gambling as a source of income, so they bet on themselves because they’re confident in what they’re doing and believe they can be profitable. These are the ones who raise a realistic bankroll and set realistic targets. let's say on average, if their funds grow by 10% in a month, they’re already happy because over time, it compounds.

Meaning, they don’t cash out their profits right away, they reinvest it as additional bankroll.

Now I’d like to ask you.. as a gambler, would you already be happy earning just 10% profit from your total bankroll?

In fact, I should be happy because I often find myself losing money on my monthly bank roll. Because my luck is always bad. So if I have a 10% profit on my monthly bankroll, I should be happy, but I won't be satisfied because I will only get a 10% profit with 100% asset risk, I would want a 50% profit at the very least.

And one of the reasons for this is that I usually keep very small funds as a bankroll, as a result of which I always expect a 1.5x profit.

[Julien_Olynpic]

10% per month is actually a huge profit if you convert it into an annual percentage taking into account reinvestment. And if you were able to increase your bankroll in this way for years on average with a small spread from this figure, then anyone would become a millionaire or even a billionaire. However, it only seems that making 10% of your bankroll is easy. But in practice, you will often have unprofitable months. In some months you will win 10% of your bankroll, and in some months you will lose 20 or even 30% of your bankroll. And the average monthly salary will be much less than 10%. In general, the main problem with such wins is not that they are impossible (they are quite possible). The main problem is to maintain such a level of wins in the long term (i.e. for years).

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Experts treat gambling as a source of income, so they bet on themselves because they’re confident in what they’re doing and believe they can be profitable. These are the ones who raise a realistic bankroll and set realistic targets. let's say on average, if their funds grow by 10% in a month, they’re already happy because over time, it compounds.

Meaning, they don’t cash out their profits right away, they reinvest it as additional bankroll.

Now I’d like to ask you.. as a gambler, would you already be happy earning just 10% profit from your total bankroll?

First of all, I would like to know how you came to this knowledge and conclusion that experts are making +10% profit from gambling on monthly basis and reinvesting it their bankroll? And who are this experts you are talking about?

We all agree that there are no consistent winnings from gambling, if some supposed expert are making consistent +10% profit from gambling on monthly basis, then It simply means that there must be something they are doing that is very different from gambling, because I do not believe that there is anything as consistent profit from gambling, else, most of us who are persistent gamblers will have a better chance of being in profit even in the long term.

And to answer your question, no body will see the possibility of making profit consistently from something and not like it, but the problem is that I do not think this is possible with gambling.

[fruktik]

Well, just assume that I am earning 10% monthly. Of course, I'll be glad with that. It is big money already. It was more than the amount that a bank offers and even in business profit.

I won't say no one makes money from gambling, yet they are inconsistent. A reason why the majority will think that it was impossible, and we all think that we will just lose in the long run. That is why gambling is not a thing we consider as earning resources, but rather just a sort of entertainment.

In my country, bank deposit rates are currently around 20-21%. What does this give to businesses? Naturally, the opportunity to make money. Why build and produce something when you can put money on deposit and wait for profit? Therefore, 10% per month is a completely decent scenario. This is 120% per annum, which no one will ever offer. For me, this is some kind of fantasy. I would not only be happy, but also jump like crazy with such happiness.

[rachael9385]

This really depends on your bankroll, which is why not everyone can think like an expert,  we can’t all be happy with just a 10% profit on a monthly basis.

If you’re a gambler who only gambles $100 per month because that’s what you can afford to lose, and let’s say you win 10%, that’s only $10. Most of us see that as too small, because what we really want is to turn that $100 into 5x or 10x in a short period of time. One month already feels too long to wait for that kind of return.

You are right, not everyone is going to be satisfied with that, but this doesn't mean that it's still not a win. Gambling is so complicated to that point that even getting 10 percent of your bankroll might fail you, personally I don't mind winning such an amount constantly. The most important thing is that you are doing what you love and you are not losing. As long as I'm making profit then I don't mind

[swogerino]

This really depends on your bankroll, which is why not everyone can think like an expert,  we can’t all be happy with just a 10% profit on a monthly basis.

If you’re a gambler who only gambles $100 per month because that’s what you can afford to lose, and let’s say you win 10%, that’s only $10. Most of us see that as too small, because what we really want is to turn that $100 into 5x or 10x in a short period of time. One month already feels too long to wait for that kind of return.

You are right, not everyone is going to be satisfied with that, but this doesn't mean that it's still not a win. Gambling is so complicated to that point that even getting 10 percent of your bankroll might fail you, personally I don't mind winning such an amount constantly. The most important thing is that you are doing what you love and you are not losing. As long as I'm making profit then I don't mind

It is difficult to stick to that type of objective because when we start winning greed gets the best out of us and we all know the results what happens afterwards. Not longer than yesterday I had my last 20 dollars to play and the game Gates of Olympus Super Scatter made me go up to near 250 dollars, normally this is 1000% of my bankroll yet I continued until I lost all as I thought I was going to get the max win yesterday. Lesson learned for me, never play again or take such risks as money, the amount I need cannot be made through gambling, I need to start behaving better from this very moment on otherwise I predict only bad things happening to me.

[Wind_FURY]

Would You Be Happy Earning 10% of Your Bankroll monthly?

If I denominate my capital for gambling and/or trading, and win 10% CONSISTENTLY monthly? I definitely would be VERY HAPPY plus my capital is denominated in an asset that outperforms MANY assets traded in a public market.

A person who would say no probably didn't consider the fact that 10% monthly is 120% annually. That's VERY good.

[Smartprofit]

When I was young, I loved studying mathematics. Finance and money were also interesting to me, so I applied my new mathematical knowledge to financial disciplines. When I learned about compound interest, I was shocked! I immediately understood that compound interest allows you to create and increase your initial capital. If you constantly reinvest your income, it increases in size very quickly. Therefore, I would be very happy to receive 10% per month from my bankroll. This is a very good result for gambling. I would be sure that my capital will grow very quickly. However, in my opinion, in practice, achieving such results in gambling is very difficult. I am not even sure that it is possible to make a profit constantly. Surely, many months will be unprofitable for you, this is impossible to avoid.

[dezoel]

Would You Be Happy Earning 10% of Your Bankroll monthly?

If I denominate my capital for gambling and/or trading, and win 10% CONSISTENTLY monthly? I definitely would be VERY HAPPY plus my capital is denominated in an asset that outperforms MANY assets traded in a public market.

A person who would say no probably didn't consider the fact that 10% monthly is 120% annually. That's VERY good.

Having 10% of bankroll with good bankroll always good as mentioned having 120% annually is good for anyone but it's never been easy as well because gambling is never been consistent you can go with long losing streak which can hurt your strategy badly.

AI is giving good points but in reality still things are not easy to have results regularly peoples can face problems or their predictions can go on wrong side in long runs but still peoples are doing things and also have few tactics which keeping them busy. Here still biggest question is this possible because I have never been sure about gambling to give return like this with no guaranteed about your success and how things will be gone because peoples can fall down like Manchester United as well.

[Wind_FURY]

Would You Be Happy Earning 10% of Your Bankroll monthly?

If I denominate my capital for gambling and/or trading, and win 10% CONSISTENTLY monthly? I definitely would be VERY HAPPY plus my capital is denominated in an asset that outperforms MANY assets traded in a public market.

A person who would say no probably didn't consider the fact that 10% monthly is 120% annually. That's VERY good.

Having 10% of bankroll with good bankroll always good as mentioned having 120% annually is good for anyone but it's never been easy as well because gambling is never been consistent you can go with long losing streak which can hurt your strategy badly.

You don't necessarily need to start with a "good bankroll" if it's denominated in Bitcoin. By winning 10% consistently, it would be sort of the same as the DCA investment strategy  + with Bitcoin's LONG-TERM price appreciation? You're probably one of the luckiest people in the world.

What people don't understand is the power of compounding because 120% of your capital this year is smaller compared to another 120% next year, and it will be bigger and bigger when the years pass by.

[mak013]

Having 10% of bankroll with good bankroll always good as mentioned having 120% annually is good for anyone but it's never been easy as well because gambling is never been consistent you can go with long losing streak which can hurt your strategy badly.

You don't necessarily need to start with a "good bankroll" if it's denominated in Bitcoin. By winning 10% consistently, it would be sort of the same as the DCA investment strategy  + with Bitcoin's LONG-TERM price appreciation? You're probably one of the luckiest people in the world.

What people don't understand is the power of compounding because 120% of your capital this year is smaller compared to another 120% next year, and it will be bigger and bigger when the years pass by.

It doesn`t matter in what currency your bankroll is denominated. If you reinvest all the sum - you grow up really fast with 10% monthly.
But i think that it would be a good idea to withdraw some part of profit - you would be more motivated when you can spend some part of the profit - you see the result of your job.
PS. Yes, i understand that it slows growing up your bankroll but i think that anyway you have to reward yourself sometimes.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Yes, without a doubt, for me, 10% monthly would make me very , very happy Anything that helps us make profits instead of losses is great, and I think everyone should see it that way because anyone who says no and expects to win more implies more risk, and when there is more risk in games, more is lost than won. If I look at it in terms of business, it seems like the best to me.

[Julien_Olynpic]

Of course, 10% per month to your bankroll is a very large income. Translated into annual income, it is more than 120%, taking into account the compound interest. If you have a large enough bankroll, for example, comparable to your annual income, then this is a very good profit. However, I believe that such a percentage per month is extremely unrealistic. This rarely happens in life. Most often, it happens that you earn well only a few months a year, and the rest of the time you either have no profit at all or you generate losses. That is why it is so important to collect statistics on those bets in which you were lucky enough to win. A deep analysis of these bets will allow you to better understand your game.

[Free Market Capitalist]

Of course, 10% per month to your bankroll is a very large income.

Have you ever stopped to think that there are people who have $100 bankrolls?

Translated into annual income, it is more than 120%, taking into account the compound interest.

I don't see why compound interest should be applied here. People who are stabilised at a level withdraw what is in excess of their bankroll. People who move up levels reinvest the winnings in the bankroll but when they move up levels the percentage is halved.

If you have a large enough bankroll, for example, comparable to your annual income, then this is a very good profit.

Hardly anyone has such a large bankroll. That would be a typical case of a regular winner who is on the edge of going pro.