Fake conversation?

[Free Market Capitalist]

I came across this thread:

This video is bitcoin related, talking about how we can replace the judges, schools, bankers and teachers with software.
I am trying to proper are species forward and have a fair and just society for all.

https://youtu.be/w7XJRPUqknc

The OP's account has been on the forum for less than 10 days. The first and second replies in the thread, both by newbies, smell like alts:

You are talking about eradicating some of the strongest enemy outpost.

Seems you want to the decentralize courts. I should of never spent 12 years there for what I did. Looks to me like you want some kind of AI run by the people be the judge and the people the jury. To ensure fairness.
Seems you want to decentralize the minting of the supply, rather just a few rich people create it, I can respect that. Every human should get a chance to mine like we did, not just the elders.
Seems you want to have a few pools for the network fee to be split into that would unlock universal welfare through transactions and fund public projects and workers. Great concept.
Seems you want to decentralize school system and make sure peoples doctors know what they are doing.

I agree a direct democracy is better than what we have.
Democracy does mean ruled by the majority and we are being ruled by a minority.
They do pay others to vote for them today, with your system they could get paid to vote and have a real say on matters that effect them.

If you need any financial help to make this a reality please contact me.  

Salute good sir.  

You are not just creating another coin you are shaping the future civilization of humanity.

When I created BTC I did not think ASICS would be a thing.
I wanted anyone to be able to mine it.  I see you are looking out for the future of my childrens childrens^200 children.
Now that 98% of supply is mined and soon to be 100% it is unfair to future generations.  I also see your point that bombing rival miners will be cheaper than creating your own miners and I do not want to see any more bloodshed over my invention. I also agree the supply will go to 0 at some point. We need something that can sustain humanity forever.

How may I help?

If you need help with the code I would love to meet you to get the full picture of what you are trying to build.

Respect.

In the case of the latter, the coincidence in SN's nickname referring to Satoshi Nakamoto is striking.

Very difficult to prove anything but I wanted to know your opinion and I will keep an eye on these accounts.

[Hazink]

I came across this thread:


The OP's account has been on the forum for less than 10 days. The first and second replies in the thread, both by newbies, smell like alts:

For the OP of the thread, I don't know what to think about it, since he/she was already days on the forum before the new suspected members came in to drop comments on the thread created earlier today.

One interesting thing to also take note of about the two newbie accounts is;
User: dreaddeadpirate: account creation date: today at 07:10:11 AM
User: SNhimself; account creation date: today at 07:23:30 AM Just few minutes apart from each other and their both first and only comment is on the mentioned thread above.

[justinlamode]

These are accounts of experienced forum users, just that they chose to be trolls under their new aliases.  The one claiming to be Satoshi will  surely end up miserably like many others who tried in the past. If Satoshi wants to return to the forum, there are easy ways to do that such as signing a message from one of the Bitcoin address associated to him.

[Lucius]

@Free Market Capitalist, I only have one doubt regarding this topic, did the OP create two alt accounts or did he hire someone to do it for him. This is a very common tactic that you can witness every day if you actively follow the forum, but these people don't realize that by doing so they are doing themselves more harm than good.

[lovesmayfamilis]

These are accounts of experienced forum users, just that they chose to be trolls under their new aliases.  The one claiming to be Satoshi will  surely end up miserably like many others who tried in the past. If Satoshi wants to return to the forum, there are easy ways to do that such as signing a message from one of the Bitcoin address les associated to him.

Experienced users? Have you read his posts? Some are AI-generated, others are clearly not written in an adequate state, either alcohol or something mixed with drugs. He talks not only to his accounts but also to himself, replying in the same thread day after day. I have sent reports to the moderators, I think the AI ​​spammer tag will at least work for the first two, but large topics.

[Pablo-wood]

Experienced users? Have you read his posts? Some are AI-generated, others are clearly not written in an adequate state, either alcohol or something mixed with drugs. He talks not only to his accounts but also to himself, replying in the same thread day after day. I have sent reports to the moderators, I think the AI ​​spammer tag will at least work for the first two, but large topics.

Especially that of @dreaddeadpirate, there is nothing experienced about the reply, all I see is grammatical blunder and the struggle of expression. That of SN's whose alias is Satoshi Nakamoto looks like AI generated output, Satoshi will never return to the forum as a troll or a spreader of FUD,  this spammers needs to closely monitored it's good they got spotted quite early.

[coupable]

Especially that of @dreaddeadpirate, there is nothing experienced about the reply, all I see is grammatical blunder and the struggle of expression. That of SN's whose alias is Satoshi Nakamoto looks like AI generated output, Satoshi will never return to the forum as a troll or a spreader of FUD,  this spammers needs to closely monitored it's good they got spotted quite early.

That person couldn't continue for long, so he created other accounts to create a fake debate to make everything look normal, but he apparently forgot he is on bitcointalk.
It doesn't take a genius to see how stupid this person is in promoting a supposedly great idea. That is, on the same date he posts a call to action to both Satoshi Nakamoti and the founder of Silk Road, an account named Satoshi himself responds, and another account named dreaddeadpirate (pseudonym for the founder of Silk Road) also reacts. This is such a bad design that even a kindergartener wouldn't believe it. I find it stupid that he thinks people will believe his claims, including his dream project of turning everything into bots.

[Solosanz]

Yeah very obvious it's a fake conversation between different alts.

Honestly I don't care because it's still on one thread and didn't ruin someone else thread.

Fake conversation is a big problem when the accounts are participating in signature campaigns, it would give them a big lesson.

[KingsDen]

These are accounts of experienced forum users, just that they chose to be trolls under their new aliases.  The one claiming to be Satoshi will  surely end up miserably like many others who tried in the past. If Satoshi wants to return to the forum, there are easy ways to do that such as signing a message from one of the Bitcoin address les associated to him.

Experienced users? Have you read his posts? Some are AI-generated, others are clearly not written in an adequate state, either alcohol or something mixed with drugs. He talks not only to his accounts but also to himself, replying in the same thread day after day. I have sent reports to the moderators, I think the AI ​​spammer tag will at least work for the first two, but large topics.

I don't know why Justinlamode thought that it is an experienced user that is behind the account(s). Their posting method doesn't depict expertise at all. If you check the two post referenced in op, you will discover that both posts followed the same structure and almost the same length which suggests that they were AI generated. They are not experienced users but typical AI spammers.

[Obim34]

These are accounts of experienced forum users, just that they chose to be trolls under their new aliases.  The one claiming to be Satoshi will  surely end up miserably like many others who tried in the past. If Satoshi wants to return to the forum, there are easy ways to do that such as signing a message from one of the Bitcoin address associated to him.

It's a big word to call experienced users associates of spams, we've seen new accounts make silly posts and topics regardless don't call out when you not sure.

Experienced users you say will be busy promoting the signature casino on their profile instead of trolling around cluelessly without contributing anything to the project. Trolls and spams are not going to end, things we will continue to see and shouldn't get bothered.

[Amphenomenon]

Experienced users you say will be busy promoting the signature casino on their profile instead of trolling around cluelessly without contributing anything to the project. Trolls and spams are not going to end, things we will continue to see and shouldn't get bothered.

Not all experience users are in this category, there are others who are in no rush to reach post counts or something similar. While there are others who are not even in signature campaign but doesn't have time for this or just doesn't bother about any related drama of such.

Also, experienced users sometimes might choose to troll and may even be in a sig campaign.

[Zwei]

@Free Market Capitalist, I only have one doubt regarding this topic, did the OP create two alt accounts or did he hire someone to do it for him. This is a very common tactic that you can witness every day if you actively follow the forum, but these people don't realize that by doing so they are doing themselves more harm than good.

i don't think he hired someone to do this for him. @betterthanSNnBTC is clearly just a troll, and trolls only enjoy it when they do it themselves. and if the 3 accounts are not alts, i suspect he is being trolled by another troll from the politics & society board judging by the names of the other 2 accounts and their writing style.

[Free Market Capitalist]

@Free Market Capitalist, I only have one doubt regarding this topic, did the OP create two alt accounts or did he hire someone to do it for him. This is a very common tactic that you can witness every day if you actively follow the forum, but these people don't realize that by doing so they are doing themselves more harm than good.

i don't think he hired someone to do this for him. @betterthanSNnBTC is clearly just a troll, and trolls only enjoy it when they do it themselves. and if the 3 accounts are not alts, i suspect he is being trolled by another troll from the politics & society board judging by the names of the other 2 accounts and their writing style.

This is the first I've heard of this. I don't see the point in hiring people to write with accounts that don't make money (that aren't in signature campaigns). Apart from the fact that it is very easy and quick to create a couple of accounts to write a couple of posts.

This reminds me of Polo7 and his multiple alts, creating fake conversations. It seems to me that we are dealing with someone who is not quite right in the head.

[Lucius]

This is the first I've heard of this. I don't see the point in hiring people to write with accounts that don't make money (that aren't in signature campaigns). Apart from the fact that it is very easy and quick to create a couple of accounts to write a couple of posts.
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I remember that alt farms of dozens of accounts were detected before, which were used precisely to create fake discussions on a much larger level than the one you detected. There is also an old member of the forum who offers his services that fall into the category of shilling and fake discussions with the aim of creating a false impression about a project or idea - I think he has his own topic in Services.

Don't be surprised, people are ready to do anything for money, especially if they think they are anonymous online.

[lovesmayfamilis]

This reminds me of Polo7 and his multiple alts, creating fake conversations. It seems to me that we are dealing with someone who is not quite right in the head.

Whoever it was, your statement about abnormality in the normal sense is true. He has written a lot of nonsense today. Moderators have deleted his posts with AI, but it seems he is a fan of this tool. I am simply amazed at how lonely people can be to come to the forum and talk nonsense in the hope of finding interlocutors in their mental compote. I also sent him to ignore, which I advise others to do.

[nutildah]

I am simply amazed at how lonely people can be to come to the forum and talk nonsense in the hope of finding interlocutors in their mental compote.

This is a great sentence. A "compote" is a fruit stew - unless it has some other meaning I'm not aware of - but in this context it makes sense because the craziness stirring in their brains is indeed sort of a fruit stew.

Sometimes people come here and create multiple accounts to have a discussion promoting their own product or service (no matter how unlikely it is to succeed), sometimes they are farming multiple accounts, and sometimes they do it out of a form of mental illness.

One of my favorite examples of combining promotion with mental illness was an instance of a guy selling "covid cures," vouching for himself with his alts.

!! listen, he only just want to helps many peoples!! no more OK
then what have you done to prevent this virus from attacking humans ... ?? nothing..only Fake talk here!

[Alone055]

The first and second replies in the thread, both by newbies, smell like alts:

The writing pattern says you are right:

1st:

You are talking about eradicating........

You are not just creating another........

2nd:

If you need any financial help to make this a reality please contact me.  

Salute good sir.  

If you need help with the code I would love to meet you to get the full picture of what you are trying to build.

Respect.

[Mpamaegbu]

One interesting thing to also take note of about the two newbie accounts is;
User: dreaddeadpirate: account creation date: today at 07:10:11 AM
User: SNhimself; account creation date: today at 07:23:30 AM

Even a cursory look at the OP, the moniker (betterthanSNnBTC) points to better than Satoshi Nakamoto and BTC. Though created earlier than the other two, there must be something those dudes are up to on that thread.

Anyway, I don't even like wasting time on newbie accounts once I see them trying to teach the forum one thing or the other with lengthy posts. I always know that there's something not adding up. It's either they're plagiarizing, using Ai or veteran accounts masquerading as noobs. So far, I haven't been wrong on that.