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June 29, 2025, 07:45:11 PM
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Nothing like maturity in chance because a gambler can be playing for year or over a long time never to have the opportunity of winning something big, except for a minor ones, when  we talk about chance, then there's lot to discuss about it and we can as well think of the probability of winning or losing at the same time, so this is not about the maturity, but the luck we may have upon playing any game.
However, we must always strive to increase our chances of winning in accessible ways, for example, as professional poker players do. They know how they beat their opponents, control their bankroll, as well as their emotional state. If they feel that they are angry, they will not give their opponent an advantage and will close the game to come next time in a good mood. All this allows them to win, but as for other gambling games, I do not know how to win, because it will not help too much there. Maybe it is still possible in sports betting, but in slots, everything is decided by luck.

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June 29, 2025, 08:28:10 PM
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As I've heard, "your past doesn't determine your future", but I believe that in sports betting this can work well. It is possible to analyze previous results to decide on the current bet, it is not a guarantee, but generally the results tend to be similar, or are easier to "predict". This is not a certainty, it is just another speculation of the many that exist in the world of betting, the so-called "formula for success".

 
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June 30, 2025, 03:55:32 PM
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As I've heard, "your past doesn't determine your future", but I believe that in sports betting this can work well. It is possible to analyze previous results to decide on the current bet, it is not a guarantee, but generally the results tend to be similar, or are easier to "predict". This is not a certainty, it is just another speculation of the many that exist in the world of betting, the so-called "formula for success".

In sports betting, yes, previous results can indeed be used as an illustration in making decisions for betting on the next match, besides that, looking at statistical data can also be an effective way, but of course overall there is still no guarantee at all that the results will be the same as expected, I hope all gamblers, especially beginners who are involved in any type of game including sports understand this part which still cannot be fully known for the results, however and until whenever gambling will always be an activity that depends on probability or possibility without any certainty and guarantee and that is why gamblers must always apply limits, especially in terms of budget.

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June 30, 2025, 04:40:24 PM
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The Fallacy of the maturity of chances is a common mistake among gamblers.

Some gamblers always think past events affects future outcomes.
For example, if a coin is lands heads up several times, some people
Think it's more likely to land tails up next.

But each coin flip is independent and the probability of heads or tails is always 50/50
I am not sure what kind of translator you are using but it's called just Gambler's fallacy, or Monte Carlo Fallacy. And it's not the only fallacy that's affecting gamblers. People have this build in need to be in control of things, and when everything is random, we start to see patterns in it. Patterns that don't even exist.

It's a skill that helped us during evolution so we apply it to everything, no matter if it works or not, and more then often it doesn't. Especially not in gambling.

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June 30, 2025, 04:45:52 PM
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The Fallacy of the maturity of chances is a common mistake among gamblers.

Some gamblers always think past events affects future outcomes.
For example, if a coin is lands heads up several times, some people
Think it's more likely to land tails up next.

But each coin flip is independent and the probability of heads or tails is always 50/50
It depends on the games since the experience with slot games is different from the experience from sports betting, since if you compare the two you see that, in slot you have to depend on luck to be able to win and also be faced with some house edge requirements, but in spritiyou can easily analyze the team and be able to to forecast accurately what the team will perform in a game.

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June 30, 2025, 05:31:11 PM
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The Fallacy of the maturity of chances is a common mistake among gamblers.

Some gamblers always think past events affects future outcomes.
For example, if a coin is lands heads up several times, some people
Think it's more likely to land tails up next.

But each coin flip is independent and the probability of heads or tails is always 50/50

This is one of my favorite fallacies regarding gambling and betting because gamblers assume each dice roll or each coin flip has some strange or mystical connection with the past ones, so if they start to see there is a pattern being followed by the coin or the dice, then they would start to adjust their wager and strategy according to such pattern, which is completely fake and does not exist.

It is interesting, how gamblers have memory to remember the history of a coin being flipped or a dice being rolled, and we all automatically assume the object itself also has some kind of implicit memory which may lead it to give specific results on the future.

Even though I know it is a fallacy, I could see myself falling for it as well, as many others have.

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June 30, 2025, 06:43:48 PM
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History repeats itself most of the time, but sometimes it changes and does not come as we predict or assume. The truth is, whoever believes that in gambling the past will come into the future again is a foolish person. Gambling does not have any connections, it's simple math working in gambling. No one knows if a coin will land five times on heads or if the roulette wheel will hit red again. Whoever falls into this trap will give their money to the casino, and for the casino, such kinds of people are like a jackpot, as they do not analyze the bets and blindly believe in such myths.

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June 30, 2025, 06:57:59 PM
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The Fallacy of the maturity of chances is a common mistake among gamblers.

Some gamblers always think past events affects future outcomes.
For example, if a coin is lands heads up several times, some people
Think it's more likely to land tails up next.

But each coin flip is independent and the probability of heads or tails is always 50/50
It depends on the games since the experience with slot games is different from the experience from sports betting, since if you compare the two you see that, in slot you have to depend on luck to be able to win and also be faced with some house edge requirements, but in spritiyou can easily analyze the team and be able to to forecast accurately what the team will perform in a game.

We have to identify the differences in games, then know how they are being played, before we can work on the assumption of whether we can win a bet by luck or by chance, but some don't know about this much, that is why they have seen gambling as what they must face in a single way forward or direction, but before they know it, everything turned a changed story.

As you all have said, the same fallacy of winning chance by time or day, another one is the kind of approach some might have given that sport bet must always comes with a winning potential, while casino games on another viewing perspective different from the norms as well, and all these have been part of what has resulted to what some of us get in gambling, because of how we think it.   

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June 30, 2025, 10:56:40 PM
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The Fallacy of the maturity of chances is a common mistake among gamblers.

Some gamblers always think past events affects future outcomes.
For example, if a coin is lands heads up several times, some people
Think it's more likely to land tails up next.

But each coin flip is independent and the probability of heads or tails is always 50/50
i had to search what was the fallacy of the maturity of chances but it turns out it’s just another name for the gambler’s fallacy which is what it’s most commonly called as far as i know

anyway this is what drives gamblers a lot of the times the possibility of being “close to the win” and when they win it proves their point and they do it again when it’s just probably coincidence
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June 30, 2025, 11:37:49 PM
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The Fallacy of the maturity of chances is a common mistake among gamblers.

Some gamblers always think past events affects future outcomes.
For example, if a coin is lands heads up several times, some people
Think it's more likely to land tails up next.

But each coin flip is independent and the probability of heads or tails is always 50/50

That's correct if every event is considered a single event and there are indeed people falling for that all the time. It's classic in coin flips, but also in dice games or roulette when some players exclude a number from the next round because it was hit last round. That is why these strategies are dangerous when players double their stakes every round they lost. It can have devastating consequences and destroy the entire bankroll. It is just wrong to believe that it is not possible for tails to hit like 15 consecutive times. It can and will happen and is only a question of time. Of course it is unlucky if it happens because the probability to hit tails 15 consecutive times is very low, but it is never 0. And as long as the probability for something to occur is not 0, it maybe your unlucky moment any time.
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When there is a recurrence of something over and over again, there is always something that will be attached to it as the reason why it does happen that way. Let's use the flipping coin as an example: if it's always turning to a particular side more than it turns to the other side, it could be argued that one side is heavier than the other.
Yes that's true in flipping of a coin if a particular side shows up repeatedly it show that there is a reason for such reoccurrence, possibily one side heavier than the other as you said,  or there could be a  force attached to it. Just like suit sayers will libate and throw cowries and it keep repeating thesame perten meaning there is something behind it. Lolz I know this is crazy.. but truth is that to every reoccurrence there is something behind it. And as a result of that people capitalize on it to assume it may likely occur. That's why most guys believe in past or previous analysis.

Those who rely on past events and their results to determine the outcome of the present are always most likely to get disappointed. In gambling, the chance of winning is under probability; irrespective of which pattern you use to determine your option, the chance of winning is always below 50/50.
Yes I agree with you that irrespective of the pattern people use, that they may get disappointed believing in past event and there result. But however I believe that if the past losers don't improve to beat the past record, then there may still be likelyhood that past record may still reoccur. But believe me once the record is broken then the past record becomes a 50/50 Chance otherwise it will remain 70/30

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July 01, 2025, 04:30:16 AM
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The Fallacy of the maturity of chances is a common mistake among gamblers.

Some gamblers always think past events affects future outcomes.
For example, if a coin is lands heads up several times, some people
Think it's more likely to land tails up next.

But each coin flip is independent and the probability of heads or tails is always 50/50

I even suspect why such a misconception arises. Intuitively, it seems that an eagle drop, say, ten times in a row, is unlikely. Actually, not at all. It is unlikely to throw ten eagles on ten coins at the same time, since the probability of such a roll is 1/210.

That is, the number and the count are confused in the human mind. By the way, the example with ten coins shows how slots work, and it is clear that the number of spins is not related to the number of options. In other words, this is pure luck, since neither the winning outcome nor the loss can "accumulate."


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The Fallacy of the maturity of chances is a common mistake among gamblers.

Some gamblers always think past events affects future outcomes.
For example, if a coin is lands heads up several times, some people
Think it's more likely to land tails up next.

But each coin flip is independent and the probability of heads or tails is always 50/50
What did you expect? People are prone to error. Especially when it comes to gambling. What won't they come up with? So many techniques, strategies and rules that they just throw everything together and hope for banal luck. And that's the only way to do it. Well, nothing else works. Even rituals don't help. You should just enjoy the moment of the game and not think about how lucky you'll be right now. All of this needs to be pushed into a far corner and never taken out of there, so as not to interfere with the game process.

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The Fallacy of the maturity of chances is a common mistake among gamblers.

Some gamblers always think past events affects future outcomes.
For example, if a coin is lands heads up several times, some people
Think it's more likely to land tails up next.

But each coin flip is independent and the probability of heads or tails is always 50/50
There is no strategy in gambling that can be used repeatedly to win. It is always uncertain. That is why if someone wants to win in gambling by using a strategy, it will sometimes be effective, but it will not always be so. It is true that there is no certainty that the result of a previous bet will be the same in the future, but there is sometimes a repetition. In random games, there is no certainty that the result of a bet will be the same as the previous bet. But it is not rare for this to happen at times. However, from my personal point of view, in any bet, be it sports betting or casino gambling, the result of a previous bet can sometimes be repeated, but there is no certainty.











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July 01, 2025, 08:12:11 AM
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The Fallacy of the maturity of chances is a common mistake among gamblers.

Some gamblers always think past events affects future outcomes.
For example, if a coin is lands heads up several times, some people
Think it's more likely to land tails up next.

But each coin flip is independent and the probability of heads or tails is always 50/50

It is true unfortunately that many people who gamble do not think like that, me included make this very generic error, I think if in 1000 spins in a slot machine the bonus has not fallen on the screen I tend to assume that in a few other spins it will fall on the screen. This is absolutely not true as I have waited for another 700 spins or so until the bonus hit. The problem is that when you have lost such amount of money in 1700 spins the bonus needs to be explosive in giving you a big multiplier in order to justify the lost amount. The fact is rarely the bonus gives a huge multiplier after having a long time before being hit. This logic needs to change and believe every spin is independent of each other.


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The Fallacy of the maturity of chances is a common mistake among gamblers.

Some gamblers always think past events affects future outcomes.
For example, if a coin is lands heads up several times, some people
Think it's more likely to land tails up next.

But each coin flip is independent and the probability of heads or tails is always 50/50

The coin example is also based on physics, if you throw the coin in a certain way, with the same force, the same inclination and on the same surface,
it will fall 90% in the same way.
Differently the probabilities change with roulette, example red\black but there is a third option zero.
Past results (in sports betting) can help you in choosing, but not on the certainty of winning.

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July 01, 2025, 08:18:34 AM
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I completely agree with you most sport followers especially football fans think that history is always repeating itself especially this season where smaller teams where winning the big and favorite teams sport is a game of how better prepared an athlete is or a team is for the team sports so those thinking and using passed record to compare and predicting the future events are doing mistakes because it doesn't always come true if the present form of the team is bad it's not going to do any magic
Honestly, this history of a thing has always become a big problem for most gamblers. Without realizing that the young sha grow, just like as you mentioned this season was truly unbelievable after most of us concluded at the earlier stage that what happened in the past are going to repeat itself again this season. But unfortunately it doesn't happened as they were expecting, as the smaller ones were able to beat the bigger ones because as time goes on that is how things are changing.

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July 01, 2025, 10:59:58 AM
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In casino games there is no connection between past and present games, if the game is fair that means that it is totally luck based. But in sports bet and prediction games we can use past games and events to analyze what the preset result can be. We can check the history of players and teams to know their strengths and weaknesses also we can check on histories and predictions to know how former events went. Although this is not a guarantee that you will win your bet but it guides us to make decisions instead of betting randomly.

 
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July 01, 2025, 11:31:13 AM
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Correct, past results won't determine the future results.
The past results can influence future results, but not in live matches, we could get them in simulated matches, only if you can observe them very well. I have not been active in analyzing these reoccurrences for a long time now owing to busy schedules.

I remember when we were younger and fans of virtual football matches in a physical casino, We kept records of simulated matches results for a few months and found out some patterns which we exploited and got good money, then the software was not strictly based on randomness, but some specific kind of results and behaviors. I know it would be harder now to achieve same result, but it is still possible to crawl the sites and get information about these results and still use it, but I don't wanna do something illegal.

 
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The Fallacy of the maturity of chances is a common mistake among gamblers.

Some gamblers always think past events affects future outcomes.
For example, if a coin is lands heads up several times, some people
Think it's more likely to land tails up next.

But each coin flip is independent and the probability of heads or tails is always 50/50
It's all still about being lucky. The probability of you picking a head or tail, anytime you toss that coins if 50/50, but that 50 head and 50 tails would not come at same equal intervals. We may see heads for a long or short period as the case may be, then tails mixed with head or just the tails. It just you trying to predict what the possible outcome would be on a short period. While we do this, we should have in mind the risk Involved and the chance of losing, so you try with best to play safe, managing your risk at the same time.

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