Is it due to skills or luck?

[Sanitough]

If someone becomes successful in sports betting over the long run, would you say that’s because of luck or skill?

There’s been a debate in the forum, some believe that gambling success is purely luck, that no real skill is involved, and that it’s not something to take seriously because eventually, you’ll lose. But there are bettors who have consistently made profit and proven they can win in the long run, believe it or not.

So the question is, can we still call that luck? Or is that already skill at work?

[Charles-Tim]

So the question is, can we still call that luck? Or is that already skill at work?

Calling it a skill if just another trap for people that is reading what you post, especially the newbies. If 95% of gamblers are losing, why calling anything skills about gambling.

All I know is that there are skill based games like poker but I can never call winning in gambling a skill.

Success in gambling in long term? I do not believe even if there is one person that said he is making it from gambling.

Why are people always thinking about earning money when it comes to gambling? This is how addiction and waste of money on gambling starts. Best to do it responsibly and just take it for fun.

[freedomgo]

If you’ve proven that you can succeed in the long run and keep repeating those results, then obviously it’s not just luck anymore.. that’s skill.
You’ve developed real ability in sports betting, and you're one of the few who can actually use that to get rich faster than most.

This has always been one of my dreams too. But up to now, I still haven’t found that consistency.
Maybe it’ll just remain a dream for me... but who knows, I’m not giving up yet.

[Webetcoins]

Sportsbetting is different than all other games of a casino but staking on either one of these still categorized under gambling. So, consistent success in sportsbetting is skill based whereas no other type of gambling may give you consistent profit making chances. Poker is another type of gambling where you can apply your skills to win.

Overall, sportsbetting requires your analytical skills hence success in it not by just luck.

[Solosanz]

There’s been a debate in the forum, some believe that gambling success is purely luck, that no real skill is involved, and that it’s not something to take seriously because eventually, you’ll lose.

Yeah I'm that person.

The reason why I said it's pure of luck and people lose in the long run because majority are like that including myself. I can't give any proof if I'm in profit after gambling for long term, so I talk based on my experience.

If someone winning in the long run, it should be skill, but I just don't know how they make it or the skill they have.

[bakasabo]

I think it would be properly to call it as a lucky coincidence, than just luck or skill. If prediction would be a skill, then it must be something that can be obtained by everyone and mastered over the years of practice. Years in betting does not guarantee success. It cant be also just luck. I dont believe that a person could be lucky for years and only in something specific.

I suggest to make another question - show us an example of a person who is successful in betting for years. Even if such person exist, he will never show us his predictions statistics. Such person most probably will tell how much he has won, or name his biggest wins, but will never tell how much he has lost.

[hyudien]

As bettors we certainly already know the difference between luck and skill. What I know is that luck is short term while skill is long term, I believe there are a small number of bettors who continue to make a profit in the long term if they really have good skills in analyzing, of course they will not always win in every pair of bets but for example in 100 bets they can still profit then it is purely because of skill.

[Cointxz]

If someone becomes successful in sports betting over the long run, would you say that’s because of luck or skill?

So the question is, can we still call that luck? Or is that already skill at work?

Usually it’s a combination of both skills and luck. You can’t win 100% in the long term using pure skills since there’s always a winning factor relying on luck every bet.

But the correct answer on your question is only possible to determine if you can provide the actual betting history of the said player on winning long term.

If he is winning using high odds then it’s luck but when using normal to low odds then it’s skills.

[purple_sparkles]

If someone becomes successful in sports betting over the long run, would you say that’s because of luck or skill?

There’s been a debate in the forum, some believe that gambling success is purely luck, that no real skill is involved, and that it’s not something to take seriously because eventually, you’ll lose. But there are bettors who have consistently made profit and proven they can win in the long run, believe it or not.

So the question is, can we still call that luck? Or is that already skill at work?

A long time ago, I worked at a physical betting shop. And I can say with confidence, it's not just about luck. Players used to come in, place their bets, and share their successful strategies with me during friendly conversations. These strategies could actually be calculated mathematically. They would place bets across different bookmakers and take advantage of favorable differences in odds.From what I heard, it's unlikely that an average player without experience and analytical skills could pull this off. But it's definitely real, and luck is far from being the main factor here.

[passwordnow]

If someone becomes successful in sports betting over the long run, would you say that’s because of luck or skill?

That's not luck. If someone becomes good at the start with sports betting, that's luck. But if we're talking about the long run, that's skill but also a combination of luck.

There’s been a debate in the forum, some believe that gambling success is purely luck, that no real skill is involved, and that it’s not something to take seriously because eventually, you’ll lose. But there are bettors who have consistently made profit and proven they can win in the long run, believe it or not.

Most of the casino games are luck based but if it's with sportsbetting. Even the best in analysis can also lose but it requires skills. But sometimes, you'd see bettors that will only do it because they think that they're lucky and that's not a problem. Everyone is free to do such bets if they have their own money for it.

[Zackz5000]

Luck alone doesn't work, you can't be lucky enough to win in a long run when you don't know teams and how to predict game , sometimes most people win through research and post record sometimes it works while sometimes it doesn't work. There was a period i won 5 times in a week i will say i was lucky those period but a skill was added also so in this situation am giving luck 60% and skill 40% it's impossible to give all 100% to one.

[Sanitough]

So the question is, can we still call that luck? Or is that already skill at work?

Calling it a skill if just another trap for people that is reading what you post, especially the newbies. If 95% of gamblers are losing, why calling anything skills about gambling.

That’s why it’s being asked, so people can look at both sides of the argument.

All I know is that there are skill based games like poker but I can never call winning in gambling a skill.

Success in gambling in long term? I do not believe even if there is one person that said he is making it from gambling.

Why are people always thinking about earning money when it comes to gambling? This is how addiction and waste of money on gambling starts. Best to do it responsibly and just take it for fun.

That really depends on the type of gambling game, and in this case, it’s been clearly stated in the thread that we’re specifically talking about sports betting.

The thing is, there are people who have actually made real profit from it  even though they’re rare. But they exist. You can easily find names if you search online, like Billy Walters, Bob Voulgaris, and a few others who’ve proven it’s possible to win in the long run.

[Oshosondy]

But the correct answer on your question is only possible to determine if you can provide the actual betting history of the said player on winning long term.

They can only say about it but they will not have a prove not to talk of proves.

If he is winning using high odds then it’s luck but when using normal to low odds then it’s skills.

Low odd does not mean skills at all, it can still be a pure luck. So far you are dealing with gambling sites, all odds are their to make you lose. Only what you can say is if it is a skilled game or not. And even in skilled games, not all the time someone will be lucky.

[Orpichukwu]

So the question is, can we still call that luck? Or is that already skill at work?

To win in betting, you need both skill and luck for you to be able to win your games, and if someone has been winning for the long run, we can say it's no longer just luck but it's combination of skill and luck; you can't be winning for the long run just by luck alone.

The reason why some can easily argue that there is nothing like skill in betting is because you can't perfect the skill; you will still need luck to win even when you have used your skill to predict gambling. It will still remain a game of probability irrespective of how much skill you have.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I am inclined to think that mastery in sports betting is possible. Still, the owners of this mastery have outstanding experience and knowledge of all the subtleties that occur in sports games. Such analysis as the game on someone else's field, the health of the players who play, the prediction of the team composition, not to mention the place in the tournament table and other subtleties, can be correctly compiled into a single form, which will allow the one who makes a bet to be in profit. I think these people are great fans of the sport in which they make bets. An ordinary person from the outside, who accidentally won once, cannot repeat the number of successful bets that such, one might say, betting professionals create.

[eisen33]

If someone becomes successful in sports betting over the long run, would you say that’s because of luck or skill?

There’s been a debate in the forum, some believe that gambling success is purely luck, that no real skill is involved, and that it’s not something to take seriously because eventually, you’ll lose. But there are bettors who have consistently made profit and proven they can win in the long run, believe it or not.

So the question is, can we still call that luck? Or is that already skill at work?

Long term success in gambling comes only from skill. Luck cannot be so consistent that you could keep winning for a long time. I can admit that luck might lead to a fairly good winning streak. But in the long run, only skill and good abilities necessary for this can help you stay profitable in gambling. Stories about successful players are fine, but I believe that a player who is really capable of winning would prefer to keep quiet about it.

[Mpamaegbu]

It's not as if skills aren't involved in sports but the act of betting on such sports and getting a win from that is pure luck. I'm referring to sports based games. That's why sometimes you find a football team in top four on a league table with perfect form and no injury will get slaughtered by a struggling team avoiding relegation in that same league. It's luck factor that can cause that.

As for slot games on casinos, there's nothing skillful there at all. There isn't a special way of rolling dices online or a better way to spin. It's pure luck.

[Beparanf]

Skills I guess, There’s no way you can keep up winning long term with pure luck because at some point you can’t escape the house edge without being consistent on accurate prediction.

It’s true that luck play an important part to win but sports betting is different since skills can increase your winning percentage on the game unlike typical casino games that purely based on luck.

It’s normally skills but I think there’s some rare cases of pure luck.

[Ruttoshi]

If you’ve proven that you can succeed in the long run and keep repeating those results, then obviously it’s not just luck anymore.. that’s skill.
You’ve developed real ability in sports betting, and you're one of the few who can actually use that to get rich faster than most.

This has always been one of my dreams too. But up to now, I still haven’t found that consistency.
Maybe it’ll just remain a dream for me... but who knows, I’m not giving up yet.

Just the way you have been dreaming to win in a long term from sportbet is the same way others have been dreaming too, but is it possible. There's nothing bad to think of that, but it will always be a dream because no kind of strategy that you will come up with that can give you a long-term win. All strategies are temporary which makes me come to conclusion that gambling is mostly based on luck.

Any gambler that can win in the long run was a coincidence because your luck will come to an end and you will start losing all the profits that you have made in the long run and your capital. I wouldn't dream of making profits from gambling in the long run because it can lead to addiction.

[btc_angela]

If someone becomes successful in sports betting over the long run, would you say that’s because of luck or skill?

There’s been a debate in the forum, some believe that gambling success is purely luck, that no real skill is involved, and that it’s not something to take seriously because eventually, you’ll lose. But there are bettors who have consistently made profit and proven they can win in the long run, believe it or not.

So the question is, can we still call that luck? Or is that already skill at work?

It's  very hard question to answer mate, and as you have said, there has been a ongoing debate here. On the other hand, it could be skills because those successful bettors might have been following that sports for a long time that he might have all the data inside his mind on which one to bet. And also, they don't include their emotions on betting. Meaning, even if their favorite team is playing if they see that they are in a dis advantage, he is not going to bet on that team.

On the contrary, if games are very lose, or if you think that the team that you bet are not going to win, suddenly there is a change in the wind and suddenly they were able to chase and recover and win by just the slim of the market and most likely it could be just the breaks of the game or luck that's why they were able to win.