ICO, IEO, STO, IDO, Fair Launch and Pre-Market, FAILED! What's Next?

[masulum]

We may have followed various phases of coin/token sales, starting from ICO, IEO, STO, IDO, Fair Launch, NFTs and finally Pre-Market. This altcoin sales trend has experienced a changing scheme from time to time. The Pre-Market era has also begun to fade because lately the Pre-Market price is more expensive than the listing price. another reason, Pre-Market that is too long and makes investors bored.

From all the sales methods that I mentioned above, in the end even though I don't use data, it can be said that more than 60% end up as scams. Even though changes in the sales model are considered to be able to minimize scams, but all of them FAILED. scammers, dead projects unbale to stopped with any sales methods, What do you think, what kind of token sales model will emerge and boom at the end of 2025 or when the bearish cycle occurs later?

Just to remind you, if there a new sales method found in near future, maybe they well ended up with similar condition. so, be careful. DYOR/DWYOR/NFA

[Charles-Tim]

The Pre-Market era has also begun to fade because lately the Pre-Market price is more expensive than the listing price. another reason, Pre-Market that is too long and makes investors bored.

Premarket is not what many people think it is. It is so risky to the extent that those that bought the coins before listing will lose.

What do you think, what kind of token sales model will emerge and boom at the end of 2025 or when the bearish cycle occurs later?

I do not know but very possible another one will come. Recently were on-chain tokens on exchanges which are scam to me. Although, they are existing as memecoins or altcoins but centralized exchanges introduced them as on-chain.

Just to remind you, if there a new sales method found in near future, maybe they well ended up with similar condition. so, be careful. DYOR/DWYOR/NFA

They will end up like that. Although, some people can gamble with it and be lucky but later many people will fall for it and lose money.

[justinlamode]

The list you made simply represents different ways people invest in new projects so it will be wrong to state that the method of investment failed because it is actually the project themselves that failed. There have been successful projects that launched through each of the methods you mentioned. Therefore, blame those shitcoins and not the method through which people invested in those projects.

[masulum]

Premarket is not what many people think it is. It is so risky to the extent that those that bought the coins before listing will lose.

It is indeed very risky, but if we compare it to the beginning of the Pre-Market, the current volume is smaller. This indicates after many TON tokens were premarket and failed, also changes in the listing price of several tokens also had a big impact.

The list you made simply represents different ways people invest in new projects so it will be wrong to state that the method of investment failed because it is actually the project themselves that failed. There have been successful projects that launched through each of the methods you mentioned. Therefore, blame those shitcoins and not the method through which people invested in those projects.

Here's why I consider it a fail, because with various ways that have been done to offer token sales that are considered valid and minimize the risk of scams, in reality there are still more scams. That's why I said that 60% failed. some projects make an innovation with doxxed dev, it turns out that KYC dev can still be manipulated.

[salad daging]

It turns out that we have gone through 6 phases of altcoin sales with different name methods, but at the beginning the hype was indeed in the end this trend just disappeared until it ended in fraud - many projects failed, finally altcoin became ZERO SUM.

In the end, there is always a new trend in altcoin! at the beginning, many people might glance at it and invest in its presale after a few months it will die because the hype is gone again.

Yes, the new sales method will definitely end the same as before, so only at the beginning it is profitable, the rest many people lose money.

[Perfectbaby]

Just to remind you, if there a new sales method found in near future, maybe they well ended up with similar condition. so, be careful. DYOR/DWYOR/NFA

Where ever there is finance then there are also likelihood for scam to get associated to it as well. One thing we must know is that as the we keep advancing in the cryptocurrency space that is how people are discovering new ways of marketing and promotion, especially things are changing very faster in the space. And you are right, many project that ended up using any of those above methods to carry out their sales at last it usually ends that either the team made away with peoples funds, while some of the project ends up dumping after they finally got listed and investor won't mind offloading their bags and look for another more trusted and reliable project invest on.

[sheenshane]

Here's why I consider it a fail, because with various ways that have been done to offer token sales that are considered valid and minimize the risk of scams, in reality there are still more scams. That's why I said that 60% failed. some projects make an innovation with doxxed dev, it turns out that KYC dev can still be manipulated.

That's the problem, no matter how many market phases come, it will always turn into a scam if there's no real utility.
Just choose the projects that could focus on building real utility and long-term value rather than quick hype cycles.
So, it will keep coming for those projects that turn into scams because they already know how it will work to lure people.

But not all are the same turn into a scam.
I think the best rate could be 75% have failed, while others succeed because they have what I mentioned above.

[armanda90]

Pre-Market listing is faster of altcoin sales trend with short moment only regarding several kinds of altcoin trend could be existing for longer time, I can't believing with Pre-Market listing how many altcoin get dump significant after officially listing at market. Regarding several kinds of altcoin sales trend very enjoyed with ICO sales, last several ago when first time launching to public very easily to earn much profit buying altcoin at ICO moment after listing at market price increasing up to x3 until x10.

ICO sales trend for altcoin not have many drama and always accurate based on project roadmap by listing at market, difference with new trend of altcoin sales right now many kind of project delay for listing at market. Take around one week until one month later from their first promising for listing at market. So far not any interested yet of altcoins sale trend for joining such as Pre market listing or other kinds sale regarding many time coins price when listing too cheap.

[slaman29]

What, I heard about IDO Fair Launch and Pre Market like in 2021 at latest... so you mean to tell me nobody came up with anything new since 4 years already?

Scammers are getting boring man, they need to come up with new shit.

Actually the shole shitcoin industry is so stale.

[masulum]

What, I heard about IDO Fair Launch and Pre Market like in 2021 at latest... so you mean to tell me nobody came up with anything new since 4 years already?

Scammers are getting boring man, they need to come up with new shit.

Actually the shole shitcoin industry is so stale.

Currently, only innovations from the old model have emerged, for example, a fair launch with a bonding curve model carried out by pump.fun. However, we can now see how more than 90% of the shittokens in pump.fun will lose when the bonding is still not fulfilled. There have been no truly fresh sales so-far, perhaps because there are no more fresh innovations to be made, since all the way they used ended with losing trust from investor. except private funding made, several project still able to hit $10m-$100m+ for their project.

[doomloop]

What, I heard about IDO Fair Launch and Pre Market like in 2021 at latest... so you mean to tell me nobody came up with anything new since 4 years already?

Scammers are getting boring man, they need to come up with new shit.

Actually the shole shitcoin industry is so stale.

I think pre-market is an earlier term and a staple one, I mean this also exist in other industries. I don't really know if fair launch is like that but I only heard it later down the road. As for the IDO, indeed, this should be the latest among the list. I think the reason why we haven't seen a new type of selling a project is because all possible kinds are given already.

This is not the same as creating a project that it is only okay to be duplicated. They are not created by the scammer but they are like a new innovation to possibly curve them in fact. It is just that scammers are so dedicated that they still do their best to fit in the each of them. Scammers getting boring is a good thing. That means it is now easy to avoid them.

[Yaunfitda]

The list you made simply represents different ways people invest in new projects so it will be wrong to state that the method of investment failed because it is actually the project themselves that failed. There have been successful projects that launched through each of the methods you mentioned. Therefore, blame those shitcoins and not the method through which people invested in those projects.

He laid down the business model, not sure if you have been here since the ICO days, but during that time, many turns out to be good, but there are also scams as people behind those projects really wanted to take advantage of  the investors money. Many are caught with a white paper that is just a copy of other previous successful projects. So that is the first time that we have seen how a project will be a scam. He didn't blame the investors, he might just want to give warnings that this market is really full of scammers, although there could still be good one but they didn't get the hype. Only those who knew how to play the game, thru marketing and ads in this community to get a lot of investors. But then suddenly they will just disappear with the investors money, hence we have this DYOR.

[Ahli38]

We may have followed various phases of coin/token sales, starting from ICO, IEO, STO, IDO, Fair Launch, NFTs and finally Pre-Market. This altcoin sales trend has experienced a changing scheme from time to time. The Pre-Market era has also begun to fade because lately the Pre-Market price is more expensive than the listing price. another reason, Pre-Market that is too long and makes investors bored.

From all the sales methods that I mentioned above, in the end even though I don't use data, it can be said that more than 60% end up as scams. Even though changes in the sales model are considered to be able to minimize scams, but all of them FAILED. scammers, dead projects unbale to stopped with any sales methods, What do you think, what kind of token sales model will emerge and boom at the end of 2025 or when the bearish cycle occurs later?

Just to remind you, if there a new sales method found in near future, maybe they well ended up with similar condition. so, be careful. DYOR/DWYOR/NFA

Well in the end all the sales methods that have ever existed only work and become very profitable for those who adopt them early enough. However, when this sales method began to be imitated by many other projects, the conditions became different. A sales method is usually only the best for the first time. But it got bad in the end. However, the sales method that has lasted the longest and is still around in my opinion is Presale. But that doesn't mean it's the most profitable method. Because a lot of trash tokens are created from this method. However, the existence of this method still exists and is still quite popular today. Especially on the BNB and SOL networks.

The next sales method may be a little more complicated. Such as involving the purchase of items or player activities in a game or something like that, which can then be converted into a token or something like that before it is launched. This method already existed but never became popular.

[Wind_FURY]

What do you think, what kind of token sales model will emerge and boom at the end of 2025 or when the bearish cycle occurs later?

It's laughable how a simple, but practical, HODL Bitcoin strategy has outperformed more than 90% of ALL ICO, IEO, STO, IDO, Fair Launches and all sorts of Pre-Market shitcoin sales.

BUT it's probably NOT because of the "sales model". Perhaps it's because they're mere shitcoin projects that have no reason to exist. I believe with the same sales model, a good project building on top of Bitcoin could be successful.

[EarnOnVictor]

What do you think, what kind of token sales model will emerge and boom at the end of 2025 or when the bearish cycle occurs later?

I think crypto projects have reached their limit in "terms" and purpose, "there is nothing new under its sun." We should not be fooled, anything new coming now is just a change of name/term, but with the same purpose. Let's all be careful.

Just to remind you, if there a new sales method found in near future, maybe they well ended up with similar condition. so, be careful.

If new stuff comes on board, well, the first set of people who will participate may be lucky enough to make their money. But I assure you, the subsequent one, or the persistence of the first one, will yield nothing but a waste of time and effort.

[Wind_FURY]

What do you think, what kind of token sales model will emerge and boom at the end of 2025 or when the bearish cycle occurs later?

I think crypto projects have reached their limit in "terms" and purpose, "there is nothing new under its sun." We should not be fooled, anything new coming now is just a change of name/term, but with the same purpose. Let's all be careful.

Just to remind you, if there a new sales method found in near future, maybe they well ended up with similar condition. so, be careful.

If new stuff comes on board, well, the first set of people who will participate may be lucky enough to make their money. But I assure you, the subsequent one, or the persistence of the first one, will yield nothing but a waste of time and effort.

Plus many of those projects that have their own "blockchain", and have their own "token" actually DOESN'T NEED neither a blockchain nor a token. They merely mint those tokens, and make up some security/economic model that doesn't actually work like Bitcoin. But they do hope that their users are going to make a presumption that what they're getting is the same as Bitcoin, without questioning the trade-offs.

  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[slaman29]

What, I heard about IDO Fair Launch and Pre Market like in 2021 at latest... so you mean to tell me nobody came up with anything new since 4 years already?

Scammers are getting boring man, they need to come up with new shit.

Actually the shole shitcoin industry is so stale.

I think pre-market is an earlier term and a staple one, I mean this also exist in other industries. I don't really know if fair launch is like that but I only heard it later down the road. As for the IDO, indeed, this should be the latest among the list. I think the reason why we haven't seen a new type of selling a project is because all possible kinds are given already.

This is not the same as creating a project that it is only okay to be duplicated. They are not created by the scammer but they are like a new innovation to possibly curve them in fact. It is just that scammers are so dedicated that they still do their best to fit in the each of them. Scammers getting boring is a good thing. That means it is now easy to avoid them.

I'm not gonna go and find out which term is first but definitely presale and premarket or private sale existed with stocks first. ICO anyway copied IPO and shit like IDO was just made up for DEX.

So they just need to make up new things. Which is the whole point I'm saying, scammers are very slow to innovate.

Its always easy to avoid scammers. I'm just challenging them to be less boring lol

[Jovanni1337]

Plus many of those projects that have their own "blockchain", and have their own "token" actually DOESN'T NEED neither a blockchain nor a token. They merely mint those tokens, and make up some security/economic model that doesn't actually work like Bitcoin. But they do hope that their users are going to make a presumption that what they're getting is the same as Bitcoin, without questioning the trade-offs.

  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This tokens is the way to pay to their fundrisers

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

If I have any interest to invest in any altcoin today, I would not use any of those method of coin sale, I will definitely wait for the coin or toke to be listed. On the day if listing, I will watch how the market is reacting and how volume keeps topping up or reducing, if see a sign of bullish move, that's when I can buy and sell off quickly after making some profit. That was actually the procedure I was following until I also hit a lose that got me too upset. Altcoins can be messy, it's very important to do a proper research before investing.

[justdimin]

What do you think, what kind of token sales model will emerge and boom at the end of 2025 or when the bearish cycle occurs later?

I think crypto projects have reached their limit in "terms" and purpose, "there is nothing new under its sun." We should not be fooled, anything new coming now is just a change of name/term, but with the same purpose. Let's all be careful.

Yeah, and in fact, I haven't even got into them at 2021 one anyhow, I just held my bitcoin mostly, sure I invested like 5-10% of my money into silly stuff to have some fun, and interestingly made some money overall, but I just keep 90% of my money on bitcoin for the longest time now. I know that it is not that easy to handle, but that doesn't mean it's impossible neither.

You just need to learn more about how you could hold it as long as possible and if you can do that then you are going to be making some good profit with it as well. I am sure people could learn to hold, yes it's hard, specially when you see the price going down, but it's better than all these trends and what not, so keep holding and you will make some good profit.