Chess + Crypto

[ib927]

It's just an idea, but I wanted to lay out the framework. The best way to describe it would be to walk you through the network.

* 1) Create an account. This is both a wallet and a profile.
* 2) Play chess against other people in the network.
* 3) Bet coins against your opponent.
* 4) To get coins, you can either buy them or mine them.
* 5) You can mine coins by playing chess.
* 6) Mining is based on proving you played a unique chess game, (proof-of-play?).
* 7) Winner of the game receives the mined coins (plus any bets placed).

Just thought it would be a fun thing to create, and maybe through mining we can solve the chess game-tree. Estimated at roughly 10^123.

[~Coinseeker~]

On the surface it actually sounds kinda cool.  Could you really make it work or is it just a theory?

[ib927]

Wish I had the skills to do it... Its just a theory for now

[jonald_fyookball]

It's just an idea, but I wanted to lay out the framework. The best way to describe it would be to walk you through the network.

* 1) Create an account. This is both a wallet and a profile.
* 2) Play chess against other people in the network.
* 3) Bet coins against your opponent.
* 4) To get coins, you can either buy them or mine them.
* 5) You can mine coins by playing chess.
* 6) Mining is based on proving you played a unique chess game, (proof-of-play?).
* 7) Winner of the game receives the mined coins (plus any bets placed).

Just thought it would be a fun thing to create, and maybe through mining we can solve the chess game-tree. Estimated at roughly 10^123.

i like the idea generally, but its super easy to cheat at online chess.

[Vod]

It's just an idea, but I wanted to lay out the framework. The best way to describe it would be to walk you through the network.

* 1) Create an account. This is both a wallet and a profile.
* 2) Play chess against other people in the network.
* 3) Bet coins against your opponent.
* 4) To get coins, you can either buy them or mine them.
* 5) You can mine coins by playing chess.
* 6) Mining is based on proving you played a unique chess game, (proof-of-play?).
* 7) Winner of the game receives the mined coins (plus any bets placed).

Just thought it would be a fun thing to create, and maybe through mining we can solve the chess game-tree. Estimated at roughly 10^123.

i like the idea generally, but its super easy to cheat at online chess.

I second this.  Anyone can download a computer program that can make a move in a second that would beat 99% of players out there.

You will always have cheating in online chess. 

[fusecavator]

Although this likely could be constructed by having conventional mining going on alongside and giving part of the block reward to a chess prize pool(see huntercoin), the chess would end up as little more than a proof of bandwidth mining system. People would start by hooking up chess ais to the game, as even the ability to handle more games alone would yield better profits for even a bad ai over good human players, and since you mentioned unique games are needed, it would quickly degenerate to random moves being integrated, and possibly random moves only eventually as time goes on. The end result is the more bandwith one has available, the more games can be played, and therefore mining ability scales with bandwith.

[Bit_Happy]

There you go.
Make it cheat proof and you are really on to something.
I'll play...

[jonald_fyookball]

A better idea is to organize a chess tournament with grandmasters and put up bitcoins for the prize money.  Can easily be done.

[Dabs]

You'll see people doing multi-windows. Like in poker. Or multi-table.

[magnet007]

A better idea is to organize a chess tournament with grandmasters and put up bitcoins for the prize money.  Can easily be done.

'nice promotion'idea and not just chess,it would be fine if btc enters the entire sports field ....

[Beliathon]

This would actually work in person. But uhh.. so does cash. It will be quite some time before Bitcoin replaces cash for things like this.

[doof]

elke is a freak

havad khan plays like 46 tables at once

[BitOnyx]

Or you can just use chess bot and win every time.

It would be very hard to fight with cheaters.

[roslinpl]

This is nice idea but it is not 100% fair

as players might use so many tools to help their game to win

I am on it when it will be possible!

[Joshuar]

To stop cheating would be a big issue, especially with those chess bots available.

[MarketNeutral]

I'm not sure it's possible to eliminate cheating via chess engines, but as a chess fanatic, I would love to see some work on chess, perhaps as a distributed engine.

[Brangdon]

* 6) Mining is based on proving you played a unique chess game, (proof-of-play?).

[...], and maybe through mining we can solve the chess game-tree. Estimated at roughly 10^123.

I'm not sure what you're aiming for. Getting a computer to enumerate possible chess games isn't hard; the problem is that there are so many of them. In particular, to prove that a given game is unique will, in general, require storing all the previous unique games, which will be prohibitively expensive.

If you are aiming for a proof-of-work scheme that involves humans doing the work, then that's quite an interesting idea, but chess isn't suitable because computers can do it better than humans can. Also, to resolve conflicts in a distributable system, you need a way to measure which block-chain has the largest proof-of-work, which means assessing how much effort went into the chess games.

As an aside, in John Varley's Titan SF trilogy, long-distance communication is done by singing to a special plant, that will relay the song to distant plants that will also sing it, provided the plants consider the song to be beautiful enough to repeat. With those plants you could maybe create a crypto-currency based around proof-of-beauty, that would be hard to forge because creating beauty is hard.

[mintodev]

They can move computer steps in no time. It doesn't work, may be create some arcade or racing games, and they can win

[Lordoftherigs]

Big fan of chess but online chess for money doesn't work as there are too many programs applications that just make you superior. You could do this with poker as there is a factor of randomness and unknown.

However I love the idea of the combination of crypto and chess. Wish you could come up with something.

good luck.

[Joe_Bauers]

The internets are funny sometimes, I had almost this EXACT idea about a year ago, but stopped giving it thought due to the cheating issues that have been brought up. The ultimate goal of the program would be to create an extremely enhanced implementation of this:  http://www.engine-cloud.com/

The main difference in my concept for this implementation is that "mining" would be entirely based on Stockfish (integrated into the client) machine games, rather than human vs computer. Still, cheating would be an issue, though less so than human vs computer, unless you're Magnus Carlsen  

As far as BTC's for tournament winnings, I believe the chess world would be very amenable toward this concept.