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July 13, 2025, 04:10:46 PM
Merited by krogothmanhattan (20), 2stout (2), ChiBitCTy (2)
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Had chat GPT help me make this to help summarize it because it was incredibly long

Posting this to warn others in the community about a sophisticated scam attempt involving physical Monero coins, an in-person meeting, and a fake escrow agent.



🔹 The Setup

I was contacted by someone on these forums interested in purchasing my physical Monero coins. They seemed normal at first. We talked on the phone for a long while getting to know each other and suggested we meet in person for inspection, followed by a payment in Bitcoin on the spot.



🔹 The In-Person Red Flags

We met in a public restaurant. He said he was buying a boat next door and would meet me at the restaurant During the meeting:

   •   The buyer kept insisting on viewing all three coins at once right in front of him.
   •   He wanted an extended amount of time holding and inspecting them, much longer than necessary and taking photos.
   •   His behavior was strange and uncomfortable — he was overly focused on the coins and how we weren't letting him hold them long enough. He kept saying the wifi wasn't good and it would be hard to send the coins and that he needed to go to the car to get his ledger.

We eventually pulled the coins back and he said the deal is off unless he can inspect them more. Since we didn't have a COA, we offered instead to get them professionally graded, but he said he was in a hurry to get them and gave random excuses. We went our separate ways.



🔹 The Bizarre Excuse

Afterward, the buyer called me and claimed that the person I met wasn’t him, but his “younger brother.” He blamed the brother’s lack of knowledge for the failed meetup and said that’s why more inspection was needed.

I later FaceTimed him, and sure enough — it was not the same person I met. This added another layer of deception and confusion. This guy was a SMOOTH talker and we talked for another hour while he tried to make me feel comfortable. Eventually we agreed to use an escrow.



🔹 Fake Escrow Scam Confirmed

The buyer provided the name of a well-known, trusted escrow agent on the forum for the transaction. After everything was set and agreed upon, I reached out to that agent directly through the forum — and they confirmed they had never spoken to me. The person I had been talking to was an impersonator.

Had I sent the coins, they would have been gone.



🚨 What to Watch For
   •   Buyer asks to inspect coins in person, especially for a long time
   •   Excuses involving other people (e.g., “my brother met you”)
   •   Suggesting escrow but refusing to verify agent identity through forum contact
   •   General weird behavior or overly smooth talk



✅ Final Advice

Always verify escrow agents directly via the forum.
Never send anything unless you’re 100% sure who you’re dealing with.
If something feels off, trust your gut — that’s what saved me from getting scammed.

At this point I am overly paranoid and made sure to take all my valuables and put them in a bank deposit box just in case these guys are more serious and may try to find and rob me. You can never be too carful!
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July 13, 2025, 04:20:07 PM
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I recently had a person attempt to scam me (In-Person). - Location wise It seems to me Florida/Miami is becoming hub for scammers.

Scumbag used this ID:



I'll share my story if people are interested. I already partly shared it on Physical Bitcoins and Bullion Facebook Group. - Unfortunately some members here who act like such upstanding people claim I was an idiot but it seems these scams are on the rise and what I did actually prevented the theft.

 
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July 13, 2025, 04:32:47 PM
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I recently had a person attempt to scam me (In-Person). - Location wise It seems to me Florida/Miami is becoming hub for scammers.

Scumbag used this ID:



I'll share my story if people are interested. I already partly shared it on Physical Bitcoins and Bullion Facebook Group. - Unfortunately some members here who act like such upstanding people claim I was an idiot but it seems these scams are on the rise and what I did actually prevented the theft.

Please share your story here as well

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if you captured photos of either one, please post here.

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July 13, 2025, 05:14:05 PM
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Please share information on here you are comfortable with. This will help all of us learn and prevent this from happening to ourselves or other trusted members. I have been involved in attempted scams by fake Escrow also, luckily recognized flags and was able to identify the scam. Watch for fake account from normal escrow that have an extra “.” or say “_” I always disclose to people I am meeting with that I carry a weapon at all times (legally). I then get “I changed my mind.”  Grin I have had many successful in person meetings to buy/sell/trade or just have a beer, but as the price of BTC increases this method is becoming more and more dangerous. I also encourage an off site safe in a trusted location. Try to break into my place and you won’t find much other than leaving with holes, if you leave at all. Look at all the celebrities and athletes being targeted for theft all over the news. Be safe everyone.

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Last edit: July 13, 2025, 08:21:14 PM by Kazkaz27
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I can start by sharing the contract that I wrote up. - This agreement is what safeguarded me as I followed it to a T.




Caribbean Treasures was also a huge help. - Me and CT have been friends for a while and he helped me bounce ideas off of him regarding the deal. He helped keep me aware and cautious. He was an asset during the process.

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Story:

On July 3rd, I received a message from a newcomer to our Facebook group, "Physical Bitcoins and Bullion," named Skyler Johnson, or simply Sky. He expressed interest in acquiring Casascius and Lealana coins and asked if I could assist him in obtaining them. I explained that while I could potentially help, given my connections with various collectors, I couldn’t make any promises.

Sky presented himself as financially well-off and seemed particularly keen on high-denomination loaded coins. Although I approached this with caution, I decided to show him some items from my collection to gauge his interest. While I found his fixation on loaded coins somewhat concerning, I brushed it aside when he expressed interest in two of my non-loaded coins.

Our conversation continued, and he appeared to be a legitimate and serious buyer. He came across as straightforward, fulfilling his commitments, including covering my travel expenses and verbally agreeing to our contract terms. However, upon my arrival in Miami on July 6th, things took a turn. After three days of constant communication, filled with hours of voice and text conversations, he attempted to make several last-minute changes that compromised my safety and control over the situation. He executed these changes in a very slick manner, which raised my concerns significantly.

As the situation unfolded, it became clear that he was fabricating stories and making excuses to deceive me. I had already shared my itinerary with him, so he was aware of my approximate arrival time. Upon landing at Miami airport, he insisted on changing our meeting location, citing his child's need to eat and other commitments that made him late. I refused to bend to his excuses, knowing that leaving the airport would put me in a vulnerable position without any means of protection. He even suggested I could pick the meeting place and proposed the local police station. I declined, realizing that it wasn’t about the location; it was about intercepting me between Point A and Point B, which I wasn’t willing to risk.

He attempted to salvage the scam he was pulling and was forced to meet me at the airport as originally agreed. The day before, he mentioned bringing his daughter and said he would arrive around 1 PM. I got there around 12:15, thinking I was being proactive, even though our contract stated the deal would take place at 2 PM. I even brought a gift for his daughter, anticipating meeting her, and he had promised to bring me a drone he had accidentally ordered duplicates of.

When he finally showed up around 3 PM—hours later than promised—he was alone and without the drone or his daughter. Upon seeing him, I noticed he didn’t completely resemble the photo ID he had provided; it was as if he were an off version of the person in the ID. He appeared tense and had a high-energy demeanor, which made me uneasy. My friend CT later joked that he looked like a "crackhead Ronald McDonald." His face was caked in makeup, and despite the circumstances, he still tried to control the dynamic of our interaction.

Another off-putting thing he did was show me a video trying to prove that he had a bunch of money by displaying stacks of cash on a kitchen counter. It felt like he was trying to convince me of his financial status without actually providing any real proof. This only added to my suspicions about his character and intentions.

I had set up a safe spot for us in the airport, surrounded by security, but it was clear he was uncomfortable. Preparing for the worst-case scenario, I brought two bags with me. One bag contained the two unloaded coins and several items for the deal, which was heavy. The other bag, discreetly hidden under my clothing, held the physical Bitcoin with 0.5 loaded onto it. I let him handle the contents of the "dummy" bag, not overly concerned if he attempted to run with it, given its weight and the surrounding security presence.

The moment we initially sat down, I had him sign our agreement in person. I then showed him a bag full of items. As he began transferring items from my bag into his duffel bag, I sat next to him, consciously positioning myself to ensure he couldn’t escape. I patted him on the back, conveying through my body language that I was right there, and everything was okay—let’s just finish and close this deal. When he asked about the 0.5, I informed him that I had it on me and offered to let him take pictures of it while I held it. He seemed agreeable to this arrangement, indicating he wasn’t concerned about holding it and preferred to verify in that way. After he took his pictures, I carefully put the Bitcoin back and secured it under my clothing.

Suddenly, he stood up abruptly, grabbing the duffel bag with the items. I firmly grabbed the bag and asked him where he thought he was going. He quickly responded, "Oh, I forgot my ledger," revealing that he didn’t even have the means to pay me, claiming he had forgotten the ledger he intended to use for the transaction. This left me even more wary of his intentions.

At this point, I was furious and told him to go get his damn ledger. He dropped the bag and said, "Okay, I'll be right back," claiming it was in his car parked right outside. As the minutes passed, I sensed something was off. Fifteen minutes went by, and I realized he had run away. I attempted to contact him, but he continued to play the fool, acting as if nothing was wrong and that I couldn't prove a thing. The whole situation felt like a carefully orchestrated scam, and I was left feeling frustrated and cautious about trusting anyone in the future.

When I pointed out his evasions and lack of payment, he turned on me, dismissively stating that he never read the contract and even called me a "retard," claiming that I was sketchy and unprofessional. I responded that professionals abide by the contracts they agree to. His dismissive attitude only confirmed my suspicions; if I hadn't followed that contract to a T, I am certain he would have tried to intercept me while I was going from point A to point B to rob me. It was a harsh reminder to remain vigilant and trust my instincts when it comes to business and personal interactions.

This is our signed contract:



 
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I assume he bought nothing but you at least got the $1500 for your troubles as you had him pay that in advance?
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" "

I assume he bought nothing but you at least got the $1500 for your troubles as you had him pay that in advance?

That's right—ultimately, he forfeited the $1,500 he paid me for my travels, having wasted both of our time while losing $1,500 himself for being a scumbag. (This I was proud about.) I was also proud to have figured him out and to blacklist him to prevent him from harming others.

If I had to do it all over again, I would—likely just the way that I did it. I was optimistic and unsure at first if he was legit. The only thing I think I could have done better is maybe receive more upfront, but I reasonably decided that I wouldn’t trust a stranger myself with a $10K upfront payment.

Another thing I might do next time is ask for a picture of photo ID held up next to their face.

I was going to record the interaction, but the moment that I met face-to-face to him, the energy was intense and I had forgot. - I wish that I got a picture of him, although I can now identify him in the future.

 
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Opps - lol accidently quoted myself

 
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did you manage to get a photo of the guy that did show up?

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did you manage to get a photo of the guy that did show up?

Unfortunately, no. I intended to do so but when we met the high energy threw me off - he did resemble the photo ID he provided to me. But it was off - like he was not really white. He was off-white and wore makeup. His smile or jawline features were the same as the ID. He had wore a ballcap and glasses. He had Wavy, semi-long, brown-blond hair. He also Reeked of weed. - The photo in the ID might be him but it would be a younger version of him or maybe a younger brother / sibling

 
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I recently had a person attempt to scam me (In-Person). - Location wise It seems to me Florida/Miami is becoming hub for scammers.

Scumbag used this ID:

https://i.ibb.co/CpSjg6Z8/IMG-0991.jpg

I'll share my story if people are interested. I already partly shared it on Physical Bitcoins and Bullion Facebook Group. - Unfortunately some members here who act like such upstanding people claim I was an idiot but it seems these scams are on the rise and what I did actually prevented the theft.

Same guy for me! Skylar!! that's not what he actually looks like. I did a FaceTime with him. He even introduced me to his girlfriend too over FaceTime.

There is 2 of them doing the scam. The fake escrow address was in California. I am guessing one of them lives in California. He had an off-putting high energy as well.
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Same guy for me! Skylar!! that's not what he actually looks like. I did a FaceTime with him. He even introduced me to his girlfriend too over FaceTime.

did you do a screen cap of the face time?

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Same guy for me! Skylar!! that's not what he actually looks like. I did a FaceTime with him. He even introduced me to his girlfriend too over FaceTime.

did you do a screen cap of the face time?

No unfortunately. I didn't even think to do it.
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Same guy for me! Skylar!! that's not what he actually looks like. I did a FaceTime with him. He even introduced me to his girlfriend too over FaceTime.

did you do a screen cap of the face time?

No unfortunately. I didn't even think to do it.

You being a newbie I'm wary of you - I'm not going to claim anything upon you but how do we know you're not Skyler? Why and how did Skyler contact you? I'm sorry to ask in a manner that seems to suggest anything - I just don't understand why he targeted you?

Was this in Miami?

Did you get pictures of the other person? - I saw another person at the airport that was suspect to me…

 
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Same guy for me! Skylar!! that's not what he actually looks like. I did a FaceTime with him. He even introduced me to his girlfriend too over FaceTime.

did you do a screen cap of the face time?

No unfortunately. I didn't even think to do it.

You being a newbie I'm wary of you - I'm not going to claim anything upon you but how do we know you're not Skyler? Why and how did Skyler contact you? I'm sorry to ask in a manner that seems to suggest anything - I just don't understand why he targeted you?

Did you get pictures of the other person? - I saw another person at the airport that was suspect to me…

That makes no sense. Why would I create a post outing and warning people of the scam? lol. I made this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5544641.msg65423850#msg65423850

I got a DM from - btchodl101 asking if they were still available and he gave me his number to call.

Unfortunately no photos of any of them. He also deleted our telegram conversation when I outed and blocked him. I did however save the signal chat between us and his fake escrow person.
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Same guy for me! Skylar!! that's not what he actually looks like. I did a FaceTime with him. He even introduced me to his girlfriend too over FaceTime.

did you do a screen cap of the face time?

No unfortunately. I didn't even think to do it.

You being a newbie I'm wary of you - I'm not going to claim anything upon you but how do we know you're not Skyler? Why and how did Skyler contact you? I'm sorry to ask in a manner that seems to suggest anything - I just don't understand why he targeted you?

Did you get pictures of the other person? - I saw another person at the airport that was suspect to me…

That makes no sense. Why would I create a post outing and warning people of the scam? lol. I made this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5544641.msg65423850#msg65423850

I got a DM from - btchodl101 asking if they were still available and he gave me his number to call.

I'm looking into this - something about this and you is rubbing me the wrong way…

Please confirm or deny that you have spoken with Caribbean Treasures regarding your Monero coins.

 
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 Never ever trust anyone claiming to be someone from this forum outside of the forum! Always contact people here. Verify don't trust....so verify here..ALWAYS!
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The character known as Skyler has been reported by multiple members of our Facebook group for reaching out across various platforms and groups, attempting to "buy" or "sell" coins, including a set of Monero coins.

- Personally, I would not trust the newbie who made this post. All of this is not coincidence. Newbie with high-dollar coins is suspect.

 
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The character known as Skyler has been reported by multiple members of our Facebook group for reaching out across various platforms and groups, attempting to "buy" or "sell" coins, including a set of Monero coins.

- Personally, I would not trust the newbie who made this post. All of this is not coincidence. Newbie with high-dollar coins is suspect.

I think you found Skyler in this thread as he wouldn't answer your question.
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