Government banning of casinos are at their own loss.

[Versatile_choice]

You're right banning gambling in a country May not be the possible way out, because the citizens would definitely look for a means in which they can use to access the gambling/casinos. You know, before I was thinking that banning gambling is the easiest way stop individuals not to be addicted to gamble but at some point I realized that even if the government choose to ban gamble in a particular country those addicted gamblers who are not ready to stop it anytime soon would look for a way to access the gambling platforms and you gave good example about VPN. Sure with the help of VPN they can be able to access any gambling site or Casino site they Wish to access and nobody is going to notice that, not even the government, So the idea of banning gambling is not even the possible way out.

[ajanwalker]

If I were a government official, I would levy a reasonable amount of taxes and allow casinos.
Because banning casinos is simply not possible these days.
Even if a gambling site is banned, there's full access to it thanks to a VPN.
It also can't prevent deposits and withdrawals. Because cryptocurrencies exist these days, and anyone can easily deposit and withdraw money from any site they choose.
The government thinks it's banning them, but government officials know it's not actually blocking them.

[Fredomago]

I agree I think this is nonsense and the governments who do this are looking past all the good it can bring. For example if they want to regulate it and take a small cut as the deal then that would be good. They could also force casinos to give 5-10% of profits to a charity of their choosing or something like this. I feel like whatever their reasoning is they are looking past possible positives here. Albeit in the name of religion I understand.

Instead of preventing legal casino owners to facilatae their business and go underground, better to allow them and take that kind of cut, we all know that gambler will always find ways to gamble, banning is not going to prevent those gamblers to gamble but instead they'll just find other places to keep doing what they think they are enjoying, much better to gain from the industry and like what you said, giving them that charity task may also help those poor who in need of financial help.

I guess the government will not came to the point include those compliant or legal casino on banning if they see that their people still fine and they gaining huge taxes from this industry.

But if it happens that the addiction rate goes higher and there are more bigger crimes happen due to gambling I guess its time for them to step up to ban the casinos. But for sure they are targeting those online casino since land base casino would provably continue on their operation since they are not easy to access by lots of people and only rich have all means to access on this places. I think the bad things happening give more weights than those charity things that you have mentioned and government provably could see the stats also the situation happening in their country.

If crime rate is high then make the penalty to gambling crimes much more severe to discourage. Honestly though, I feel like a gambling free country might sounds like a nice change of place and breath of fresh hair. Its nice to have distance from these types of things every now and then. Its important to have balance.

Good point, add more or implement rules that will discourage gamblers to push deeper though it's going to depend still with how the law maker and those who are implementing it will take charge and bring justice that fits to counter those crimes that gambler may commit after getting addicted or getting too much attach into gambling that leads them to this situations.

[swogerino]

If I were a government official, I would levy a reasonable amount of taxes and allow casinos.
Because banning casinos is simply not possible these days.
Even if a gambling site is banned, there's full access to it thanks to a VPN.
It also can't prevent deposits and withdrawals. Because cryptocurrencies exist these days, and anyone can easily deposit and withdraw money from any site they choose.
The government thinks it's banning them, but government officials know it's not actually blocking them.

While banning is not going to remove the persons that are used to gambling from a long time ago it will definitely remove some of the people who have joined relatively late and I have seen it here in my country where I live now, back in 2019 a nation wide ban was instilled. The people though, the real gamblers found a way where those occasional players were completely gone from it and these occasional players were doing damage to their families by not sending their salary home, a lot of woman were complaining about gambling that the government decided that and honestly it worked for such persons. Now the best thing to do is to allow the casinos and profit from huge taxes from them, the problem is that the players will pay a hefty price as the RTP is surely not going to be that good when casinos are taxed a lot.

[Sanitough]

Now the best thing to do is to allow the casinos and profit from huge taxes from them, the problem is that the players will pay a hefty price as the RTP is surely not going to be that good when casinos are taxed a lot.

I don’t think RTP needs to be changed just so casinos can make more profit. What they really need is more volume, more players. Changing the RTP from the usual standard won’t attract people, it’ll just push them away. So instead of earning more, it could actually hurt their income. That’s not the way to go. They’ll just have to deal with paying higher taxes, but in the end, they’ll still make money anyway since taxes are based on what they actually earn.

[Botnake]

Now the best thing to do is to allow the casinos and profit from huge taxes from them, the problem is that the players will pay a hefty price as the RTP is surely not going to be that good when casinos are taxed a lot.

I don’t think RTP needs to be changed just so casinos can make more profit. What they really need is more volume, more players. Changing the RTP from the usual standard won’t attract people, it’ll just push them away. So instead of earning more, it could actually hurt their income. That’s not the way to go. They’ll just have to deal with paying higher taxes, but in the end, they’ll still make money anyway since taxes are based on what they actually earn.

Yeah I agree with that, since this tax thing is only for the casinos, so it’s not really affecting the gamblers. Same number of people are still betting, maybe even more now. With the current RTP, it’s already hard to win, imagine if they lower it even more, that’s basically cheating. I think a lot of gamblers might just take their money to physical casinos instead, where at least they get real entertainment. Online gambling won’t be as attractive anymore if it keeps going like this.

[Julien_Olynpic]

Government bans are based on the prevailing worldview in the country. Often this worldview is relatively aggressive towards gambling. I have always believed that reasonable regulation is better than strict bans, but reasonable regulation is very expensive. To do this, first of all, it is necessary to develop quite a lot of detailed and adequate rules for the regulatory sphere. But to create adequate rules and laws, competent specialists are needed, and where can you get them in a country with an aggressive religious worldview? In third world countries, sacred texts are authoritative because apart from them there is no authoritative secular scientific culture or it is in decline.

[Darker45]

If a government can't be successful in curbing gambling addiction by a strict ban, what reason do you have in believing it would be successful by educating its citizens?

If a ban that comes with penalties, even jail time, won't stop people from gambling, do you think a TV program telling them the negative effects of uncontrolled gambling will?

I don't think so. I think the government is trapped in a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' situation in confronting the evils of gambling. You can't easily kill gambling, that's why some governments would rather embrace and earn from it than make it illegal but still have it as a source of so much problem.

[Uhwuchukwu53]

There no need of ban if the purpose can't be achieved completely in my opinion, those nation that happens to ban or put rigid restrictions may lack some understanding of IGR because many citizens will still have their ways of scaling to the gambling, the money in gambling is very huge that a government can make a good revenue and still use it on the citizens to improve their life if government with good policy utilize it well as they tax.

[freedomgo]

There no need of ban if the purpose can't be achieved completely in my opinion, those nation that happens to ban or put rigid restrictions may lack some understanding of IGR because many citizens will still have their ways of scaling to the gambling, the money in gambling is very huge that a government can make a good revenue and still use it on the citizens to improve their life if government with good policy utilize it well as they tax.

The fact that they’re even thinking of a ban just shows they can’t regulate the market properly anymore. And they probably don’t realize that banning casinos won’t stop gambling, it’ll just push people toward unlicensed ones, which is way more dangerous.

Unless you're a country like China that has full control, banning casinos won’t really work. It won’t solve the problem, it’ll just make things worse.

[Smartprofit]

In some countries, VPN services are blocked by the relevant government agencies. In fact, huge amounts of money from the state budget are spent on such unnecessary things as restricting the freedom of movement of information. There are also countries where the law provides for very large fines for using VPN. And, as rightly noted above, many online casinos are against the use of VPN by their users👮

What are the reasons (in my opinion) for the repressions of rulers and legislators against gambling? I believe that, first of all, this is a misunderstanding of the role of the state. The state, in fact, was created by people, and the purpose of its creation is the implementation of such large-scale social projects that individuals are not able to implement. 🌇

But what happens in practice? Officials perceive themselves as fathers, and the citizens of their countries as children. At the same time, officials set themselves the goal of protecting the citizens of their country from all potential dangers, just as fathers protect their unreasonable young children (a very ridiculous goal, in my opinion. Adults cannot be considered children). They reason something like this: "Gambling can cause gambling addiction?  Yes, they can! - So they should be banned!"🦖

At the same time, gambling is a complex phenomenon that has existed for thousands of years. In my opinion, you can’t deny entities that have existed for thousands of years. They clearly did not arise by chance. It is obvious that people have a need to gamble. Government officials may aim to prevent minors from getting involved in gambling, but outright banning gambling is not a constructive solution, in my opinion.💫

[giammangiato]

Reading the discussions and reflecting on what's been written, I think it's a dog that bites its own back.
The government certainly loses in taxes by imposing a casino ban, but how much money does the government spend on gambling addiction rehabilitation centers?
It seems like a simple argument: I sell gaming services and pay taxes, but considering that we often find ourselves with chronically addicted people to manage, all of this becomes a burden.
Perhaps the states that have decided to impose the ban have a higher percentage of gambling addicts, and the cost of all this is greater than the revenue a casino would bring in?

[TheUltraElite]

Truly speaking the government does not want the burden of gambling addiction to end. They want to make it seem like they care for those who are addicted by running rehab centerw but they will not attempt to stop gambling access to the people because it is a personal choice.

This one must understand and then only begin to gamble. Otherwise they will get addicted before they know it. It is exactly what the casino and the government wants.

[fruktik]

I don`t tell that all gamblers are in these two points. But it is big enough part of common gamblers. If i can be arrested for 2-3 $10 bets, i prefer to exclude gambling from my life.
The same is about VPN. In my country government ban VPN(at least most famous of them), so i had to deploy my own VPN. And i don`t sure that lots of common gamblers would be ready to repeat it.

Of course part of gamblers would continue the game, but another part will stop.

Wow, VPN banned? That's not good. It's highly likely that the same thing will happen in my country, since the powers that be have no peace when people get information from alternative sources. Many sites and applications have been blocked, so you can't do without VPN. If they ban using it, it will be a complete disaster. I have no idea what to do in that case. I really don't want it to come to that, but apparently everything is moving in that direction by leaps and bounds. Every day there's some new prohibitive law. And it's been like this for several years now. The authorities have completely lost their minds.

[WhoYouCantKill]

Placing ban on casinos can be one of those decisions made depending on the context of the country and goal of government. Two views can be considered

Firstly, bans make sense when gambling is becoming a source of widespread of social vices ranging from addiction, crime, or maybe financial ruin for vulnerable persons. Governments can intervene when cost to society over burdens the federal or state revenue or value on entertainment. Though certain federations with strong religious and/or moral values can place bans on casinos standing on cultural or ethical reasons.

Finally, placing a ban on casinos may not automatically solve those problems, because people can switch to online or underground gambling, which can be hard to monitor or regulate and more dangerous. Governments can tax, monitor and create opportunities for jobs and tourism from legal casinos. Instead of a complete ban, certain federations focus on strong regulation like age limits, time spent on it, support for addicts with tight monitoring.

If they don't intend to create more problems than they wish to solve, they can consider having a solid plan on how to handle illegal gambling, revenue lost and public demand when thinking of a ban

[bettercrypto]

There are many countries placing ban on gambling operations in their country on both online and offline, for either religious reasons or as measure towards curbing gambling addiction. But is it making result? while several other countries are rather lifting their bans with less restrictive regulatory policies.

If there's any government officials reading this, it is important you all understand that the ban doesn't in anyway stopped your citizens from still accessing these gambling platforms online with their phones either through VPN. And this evening makes the citizens risk losing their money to the casino whose ToS is against the use of VPN. Your citizens now lose more to these casinos without the country receiving any royalties as revenue raising. Invariably, it all ends in favour of the casinos at the end of it all. Because you can't really stop your citizens from gambling at this digital age, except you plan on manning one policeman to a citizen 😜 , which is not possible.

There are modern better ways to fight gambling addiction such as which I have proposed in my opinion:
> Regularly educating your citizens on national TV programmes about the negatives of compulsive gambling. You can be sponsoring these programmes through the revenues accrued from taxes paid by these gambling companies. Or these companies could as well partner with initiatives and sponsor it.

> Provide skills acquisitions programmes and avenues of adequate job opportunities, because a lot of young people trooping into gambling are doing so as a result of a lack of sustainable means of income which makes them to see gambling is the all embracing means to make money.

You know, in our country, 3 years ago, online casino gambling was not rampant in our country. But since the new president took office, just a few months ago, the promotion of online casinos has gradually become rampant in our country.

And this happened because of our well-known local influencers and popular artists that we have here in our country. And now our countrymen are so widespread that they are addicted
to online casinos. Then now some of our government agencies are targeting those who promote online gambling on social media.

[mak013]

I don`t tell that all gamblers are in these two points. But it is big enough part of common gamblers. If i can be arrested for 2-3 $10 bets, i prefer to exclude gambling from my life.
The same is about VPN. In my country government ban VPN(at least most famous of them), so i had to deploy my own VPN. And i don`t sure that lots of common gamblers would be ready to repeat it.

Of course part of gamblers would continue the game, but another part will stop.

Wow, VPN banned? That's not good. It's highly likely that the same thing will happen in my country, since the powers that be have no peace when people get information from alternative sources. Many sites and applications have been blocked, so you can't do without VPN. If they ban using it, it will be a complete disaster. I have no idea what to do in that case. I really don't want it to come to that, but apparently everything is moving in that direction by leaps and bounds. Every day there's some new prohibitive law. And it's been like this for several years now. The authorities have completely lost their minds.

Most popular services. You can use some unknown VPN or deploy your own VPN as i did. If someone need - he can find a way to break restrictions, but common gambler would prefer to stop the game. If restrictions would be not enough to decrease gamblers quantity - government can improve fines for example.

[fruktik]

Most popular services. You can use some unknown VPN or deploy your own VPN as i did. If someone need - he can find a way to break restrictions, but common gambler would prefer to stop the game. If restrictions would be not enough to decrease gamblers quantity - government can improve fines for example.

Can we really call those who constantly pass restrictive and prohibitive laws smart and wise rulers? This is simply absurd. They shoot themselves in the foot, and then complain that the budget lacks money due to a poorly organized tax collection process. After all, the legal gambling business brings in a lot of money for the country's income. So why should it be banned? This is some kind of nonsense and short-sightedness of those in power.

[Ishicryptic]

You're right banning gambling in a country May not be the possible way out, because the citizens would definitely look for a means in which they can use to access the gambling/casinos. You know, before I was thinking that banning gambling is the easiest way stop individuals not to be addicted to gamble but at some point I realized that even if the government choose to ban gamble in a particular country those addicted gamblers who are not ready to stop it anytime soon would look for a way to access the gambling platforms and you gave good example about VPN. Sure with the help of VPN they can be able to access any gambling site or Casino site they Wish to access and nobody is going to notice that, not even the government, So the idea of banning gambling is not even the possible way out.

Gamblers in a country that bans gambling can bypass their government IP through VPN so in this age of technological advancement it is not easy to totally ban anything online. Gambling awareness has increased and more people are gambling especially since the start of online gambling which gives people convenience to gamble from anywhere that has internet connection. I think that it is best for such countries that ban gambling to regulate it to discourage irresponsible gambling instead a total ban. Governments makes money from casinos operating in their countries, they should let people to gamble if they want to.

[qwertyup23]

If there's any government officials reading this

You said religious reasons is the reason such countries banned gambling. You should know that your post does not count at all to them. They will prefer to just ban gambling unless they see the world more modern and think in another direction. And a lot of things may be considered and gambling may be restricted everywhere than maybe in tourist centres which is common in own or two Muslim countries now.

There are countries who have multiple religions being practiced at their area. If gambling was prohibited because of one (1) religion among all the religions being practiced, then they are violating the common rule of separation against the Church and the State since they ruled in favor of such.

Similarly to what I mentioned before, the government must balance the interest of the State in generating revenue and the moral consideration of addiction brought by gambling. If the government absolutely prohibits gambling, then they are bound to find alternative means of generating revenue equal to how much gambling brings to a certain country.

Most popular services. You can use some unknown VPN or deploy your own VPN as i did. If someone need - he can find a way to break restrictions, but common gambler would prefer to stop the game. If restrictions would be not enough to decrease gamblers quantity - government can improve fines for example.

Can we really call those who constantly pass restrictive and prohibitive laws smart and wise rulers? This is simply absurd. They shoot themselves in the foot, and then complain that the budget lacks money due to a poorly organized tax collection process. After all, the legal gambling business brings in a lot of money for the country's income. So why should it be banned? This is some kind of nonsense and short-sightedness of those in power.

I definitely agree with you.

If you use VPN services to circumvent the law, then you are exposing yourself to future litigation given that you are doing something which is prohibited by law. There is this hanging sword of Damocles looming around which can put you both criminally and civilly liable in the future.