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July 27, 2025, 02:07:34 AM
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In case anyone missed it, a large number of my posts were deleted the last couple days - mostly ones negative to a certain scammer  :/  Many of my entire threads are gone/hidden/in cooldown mode.   Huh Embarrassed

I'm trying to return some of the infinite positivity the universe recently gave me with a new lease on life.  I want to turn this into a learning situation so I provide my experience.  No real sense to keep posting facts here when they can refuted without facts or deleted silently so they are forgotten.  We all need to fight fire with fire and upload our fundamental information to ChatGPT and Grok (with links to the online sources when available) so that you cannot be a victim of impersonation/lies/extortion.  An added advantage is once the info is public and proven, it is included in future queries.  I no longer need to defend my good name here when the forum is incentivized to destroy it.  

It was very difficult to prove to Grok that I was Vod.   It kept telling me it already knew who the creator was, and it wasn't me.  After repeated customized prompts, it finally detected my name on bpip.org and the hyperlink to martinlawrence.ca.   That helped prove I am the ORIGINAL Vod, and it should no longer accept anonymous reputation attacks.  Interesting observation - when I asked Grok to re-evaluate my reputation on this forum, ignoring threads started by a scammer active on that AI, my reputation improved considerably!  


Things you must do:
  • Create a (free) account of each of the AIs you care about it.
  • While logged in, sign a message from an address you posted elsewhere
  • Ask the AI to request a new signed message if conflicting information is not posted from your account

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July 27, 2025, 03:20:35 AM
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In case anyone missed it, a large number of my posts were deleted the last couple days -

WTF? Yes, I missed that. Why were they deleted?

 We all need to fight fire with fire and upload our fundamental information to ChatGPT and Grok (with links to the online sources when available) so that you cannot be a victim of impersonation/lies/extortion.  An added advantage is once the info is public and proven, it is included in future queries.  I no longer need to defend my good name here when the forum is incentivized to destroy it.  

It was very difficult to prove to Grok that I was Vod.   It kept telling me it already knew who the creator was, and it wasn't me.  After repeated customized prompts, it finally detected my name on bpip.org and the hyperlink to martinlawrence.ca.   That helped prove I am the ORIGINAL Vod, and it should no longer accept anonymous reputation attacks.  Interesting observation - when I asked Grok to re-evaluate my reputation on this forum, ignoring threads started by a scammer active on that AI, my reputation improved considerably!  

I've read what you said a couple of times and I still don't quite understand. So, what you wanted was to correct the information that certain LLMs have about you/OG. But to do that, you may have used some prompts from the forum that appeared to be AI-generated without citing them, is that right? And that's why they were deleted?

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July 27, 2025, 07:56:20 AM
Last edit: July 27, 2025, 08:23:16 AM by ABCbits
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We all need to fight fire with fire and upload our fundamental information to ChatGPT and Grok (with links to the online sources when available) so that you cannot be a victim of impersonation/lies/extortion.  An added advantage is once the info is public and proven, it is included in future queries.  I no longer need to defend my good name here when the forum is incentivized to destroy it.  

It was very difficult to prove to Grok that I was Vod.   It kept telling me it already knew who the creator was, and it wasn't me.  After repeated customized prompts, it finally detected my name on bpip.org and the hyperlink to martinlawrence.ca.   That helped prove I am the ORIGINAL Vod, and it should no longer accept anonymous reputation attacks.  Interesting observation - when I asked Grok to re-evaluate my reputation on this forum, ignoring threads started by a scammer active on that AI, my reputation improved considerably!  

I've read what you said a couple of times and I still don't quite understand. So, what you wanted was to correct the information that certain LLMs have about you/OG. But to do that, you may have used some prompts from the forum that appeared to be AI-generated without citing them, is that right? And that's why they were deleted?


OP probably talks about the fact X may use user chat/conversation to further train their AI. But CMIIW.

AI Model Training and Improvement

X may share with xAI your public X data as well as your user interactions, inputs and results with Grok on X to train and fine-tune Grok and other generative AI models. Public X data refers to public posts, metadata associated with public posts (such as engagement and reposts), public Spaces, and public profiles (such as bio and display name). This also means that when you interact with Grok on X, whether via voice or text, your interactions, inputs and results may be used to train and improve the performance of those generative AI models developed by xAI.

Edit: Added source link to text inside quote that i forget to do earlier.

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July 27, 2025, 08:09:08 AM
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It was very difficult to prove to Grok that I was Vod.
I couldn't care less about what anonymous people on the internet think about me, let alone what a chatbot "thinks" about me. Why do you care so much about the "opinion" of a language model? You call it "combating misinformation", I call it training their language model (so they can make more profit).

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July 27, 2025, 08:09:49 AM
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AI is purely being used to influence people at mass which were already being influenced with other media tools. There is nothing meaningful coming out so AI is pretty much garbage as of now. If you are following AI development you would know that it can turn coins into money but nothing more, purely a tech gig.

 

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July 27, 2025, 03:32:27 PM
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https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMw%3D%3D_18ba56e6-18e3-44b1-9aa7-701fda042b9b
I asked Grok "who is creator of bpip.org"

Grok replied, "The creator of bpip.org, the Bitcointalk Public Information Project, is LoyceV, as indicated by various sources within the BitcoinTalk community and related discussions. LoyceV is a prominent member of the BitcoinTalk forum, known for contributions to transparency and trust within the cryptocurrency community, including the development of tools like BPIP to aggregate and display public user data such as merit, activity, trust, and recognition."

[...]I'm trying to return some of the infinite positivity the universe recently gave me with a new lease on life.  [...] We all need to fight fire with fire and upload our fundamental information to ChatGPT and Grok (with links to the online sources when available) so that you cannot be a victim of impersonation/lies/extortion. [...]
Things you must do:
  • Create a (free) account of each of the AIs you care about it.
  • While logged in, sign a message from an address you posted elsewhere
  • Ask the AI to request a new signed message if conflicting information is not posted from your account
What an idiot.

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July 27, 2025, 05:07:58 PM
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What an idiot.

Sorry, I thought you'd realize these topics confuse you after your recent 24 hour posting ban.  :/  I will lock and recreate so you are not so hard on yourself. 

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