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July 30, 2025, 08:47:03 AM
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Do you know? Today is the day. 15 years back, Satoshi said, “If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.” - Discovered from Cointelegraph Tweet.

 Can you imagine the weight of his voice? After 15 years we are still not getting him except for those who already hold Bitcoin. But 15 years ago, Satoshi dropped an iconic line in tech history. This quite reminds us of how people reacted when Bitcoin was created. They laughed and called Bitcoin magic internet money or a direct scam. But now? People become billionaires from Bitcoin, and more new billionaires are investing in it as well.

Satoshi wasn't really disappointed; to be honest, he was one step ahead, and that's why he said he didn't have enough time to convince. Because he knows he has created something revolutionary, and Bitcoin will speak for itself in time. So now, Bitcoin is speaking for itself; people worldwide are running after Bitcoin. His message reminds us, don't argue with Bitcoin haters. Don't waste your time by fighting with them. Let Bitcoin speak for itself and HODL tight.




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July 30, 2025, 09:00:29 AM
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One thing that made bitcoin stands out was seriously the developer behind it, Satoshi was very much sure of what was building and it was like it didn’t need any convincing, it is Ponzi schemes that you will need to be convincing people and actually even lie in the process about the reward of the project. Satoshi didn’t even tell any one that of you hold bitcoin in the next 10 years you will be having 10x your investment. He never advertised bitcoin on any platform like we see other similar projects do, but he was so sure that the adoption will grow as the year goes by because he was solving financial problems that the world wouldn’t escape from.

Personal I don’t think bitcoin needs us to actually go around trying to convince anyone likes it’s a one Ponzi scheme, yes I am not against the idea of spreading its adoption but seriously trying to convince someone shouldn’t be our thing, financial market crisis like inflation and fiat devaluation will do the convincing. Look today at one of the biggest bitcoin maximalist Michael Saylor, wasn’t he one of those who call this a Ponzi scheme, looks whose company is buying bitcoin today almost daily. M

Joyful we got into this early. Even if you’re finding out about bitcoin today, you’re still early in my opinion

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July 30, 2025, 09:48:28 AM
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Shows once again the difference between bitcoin and altcoins. No altcoin developer will say this about their project. They would prefer it if people like their product because, without that, they won't get anything. It's like a product that is not top quality, so the producers invest so much in marketing so people can buy the product.
Bitcoin is different; there's no need for extra marketing or PR work, more like the product will sell itself. There need to be special qualities or features of your product for you to be able to know that it will provide what people want, and Bitcoin has all those features, while altcoins don't.
For a developer to know this about his project even when nobody believed, shows how much of a visionary he is.

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July 30, 2025, 10:14:45 AM
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Do you know? Today is the day. 15 years back, Satoshi said, “If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.” - Discovered from Cointelegraph Tweet.
This is the original post on this forum:

The current system where every user is a network node is not the intended configuration for large scale.  That would be like every Usenet user runs their own NNTP server.  The design supports letting users just be users.  The more burden it is to run a node, the fewer nodes there will be.  Those few nodes will be big server farms.  The rest will be client nodes that only do transactions and don't generate.

Besides, 10 minutes is too long to verify that payment is good.  It needs to be as fast as swiping a credit card is today.
See the snack machine thread, I outline how a payment processor could verify payments well enough, actually really well (much lower fraud rate than credit cards), in something like 10 seconds or less.  If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=423.msg3819#msg3819


I ink the part that Satoshi wrote it.


They were discussing about scalability and transaction rate there. It is better to get such information directly on this forum to actually know the reason it was said.

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July 30, 2025, 10:21:46 AM
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Shows once again the difference between bitcoin and altcoins. No altcoin developer will say this about their project. They would prefer it if people like their product because, without that, they won't get anything. It's like a product that is not top quality, so the producers invest so much in marketing so people can buy the product.
Bitcoin is different; there's no need for extra marketing or PR work, more like the product will sell itself. There need to be special qualities or features of your product for you to be able to know that it will provide what people want, and Bitcoin has all those features, while altcoins don't.
For a developer to know this about his project even when nobody believed, shows how much of a visionary he is.

Most of altcoin project try to hype their project just to gain attention.

But in Bitcoin they never see Satoshi doing any hard sell just to create demands for his coin. But what's happening in the scene is people keeps coming back and happily accumulate Bitcoin because we know its potential.

This is what other altcoins can't copy that's why they always compare their scam tokens on Bitcoin because they want to raise curiosity and make people think that their shady cons or token will go the same as what Bitcoin achieve. While in reality it will not go that way and usually their intention is to scam people.

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July 30, 2025, 10:33:37 AM
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Shows once again the difference between bitcoin and altcoins. No altcoin developer will say this about their project. They would prefer it if people like their product because, without that, they won't get anything. It's like a product that is not top quality, so the producers invest so much in marketing so people can buy the product.
Bitcoin is different; there's no need for extra marketing or PR work, more like the product will sell itself. There need to be special qualities or features of your product for you to be able to know that it will provide what people want, and Bitcoin has all those features, while altcoins don't.
For a developer to know this about his project even when nobody believed, shows how much of a visionary he is.

Most of altcoin project try to hype their project just to gain attention.

But in Bitcoin they never see Satoshi doing any hard sell just to create demands for his coin. But what's happening in the scene is people keeps coming back and happily accumulate Bitcoin because we know its potential.

This is what other altcoins can't copy that's why they always compare their scam tokens on Bitcoin because they want to raise curiosity and make people think that their shady cons or token will go the same as what Bitcoin achieve. While in reality it will not go that way and usually their intention is to scam people.

Everyone who creates new coins doesn’t necessarily want to scam, they look up to bitcoin because they want to create something just as large-scale as it is. But it’s clear that creating an equivalent is a difficult task and still unachievable for now, although there are plenty of scammers too.

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July 30, 2025, 11:26:42 AM
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Probably one of the most iconic quotes ever in the crypto sphere. Satoshi believed in his creation since the starting and his conviction shines clearly in this quote. I wonder what he feels (wherever he/ they may be), seeing Bitcoin become one of the biggest talking points in tech and the 21st century in general.
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Satoshi wasn't really disappointed; to be honest, he was one step ahead, and that's why he said he didn't have enough time to convince. Because he knows he has created something revolutionary, and Bitcoin will speak for itself in time. So now, Bitcoin is speaking for itself; people worldwide are running after Bitcoin. His message reminds us, don't argue with Bitcoin haters. Don't waste your time by fighting with them. Let Bitcoin speak for itself and HODL tight.
You know it really beats me to see that people are so blind to see what's in front of them. It was understandable 15 years back because Bitcoin was as good as worthless and only those who saw the vision saw the worth, it was easier for anyone to feel sceptical about the technology, I mean I would have.
But right now, it's right in front of everyone, the historical performance and outbreak of Bitcoin, the insane adoption, the price skyrocketing and piercing through every single ATH and people are still so dumb enough to doubt it's future and long term potential. I mean that's just lame.

Well, just like Satoshi, convincing Bitcoin sceptics has never been my thing, I feel it's a waste of my precious time, I mean everyone has the right to believe what they wanna believe and trust whatever they wanna trust and it's not as if their lives depends on it.

Rather than tryna tell or convince them, I do more of the showing, I live Bitcoin and it reflects in my lifestyle, it's not as if I brag about, or disclose information about my holdings, no that's rather too risky. But my lifestyle, especially the financial aspect I'll say is a testimonial of the awesomeness of Bitcoin.

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July 30, 2025, 11:38:44 AM
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Do you know? Today is the day. 15 years back, Satoshi said, “If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.” - Discovered from Cointelegraph Tweet.
I consider it also as a blueprint of how someone should act when you're trying to convince someone or telling someone about Bitcoin. Following in the footsteps of Satoshi, if they fail to believe you or understand it even after several attempts to convince them, and perhaps you perceive that the person is simply trying to be difficult, don't waste more time trying to convince them; wish them well and move on.

This should apply to all persons, even if you have a close relationship with the person you are trying to convince.

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July 30, 2025, 11:46:04 AM
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Honestly Satoshi statement have reflected on every true bitcoin holders, most especially those that are active and present on bitcoin communities loke bitcointalk and the rest, we really gat no time to waste other than being focused on the goals which is to accumulate more bitcoin.

If you dont align yourself, you will most definitely be left out, no body reall have the need to convince you about bitcoin and the entent it has grown within the past 15 years.

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July 30, 2025, 11:54:40 AM
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Probably one of the most iconic quotes ever in the crypto sphere. Satoshi believed in his creation since the starting and his conviction shines clearly in this quote. I wonder what he feels (wherever he/ they may be), seeing Bitcoin become one of the biggest talking points in tech and the 21st century in general.
Satoshi isn't human but aliens, who doesn't care about the material things of the world but breaks exceptional history. Market Zuckerberg, Vitalik and the rest new innovative builder shows their identity for validation from the public, to explain more further what they trying to build.

The case of Satoshi is different, he built a system that works for itself, where developers work for developers to solve a puzzle that needed everyone to make it move and not owned by anybody.

Plug in from anywhere you are, take some quantity of it while you solve problems that keeps the system going, no cheating. There is no need to convince anyone, if you don't get, forget about it.


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Do you know? Today is the day. 15 years back, Satoshi said, “If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.” - Discovered from Cointelegraph Tweet.

 Can you imagine the weight of his voice? After 15 years we are still not getting him except for those who already hold Bitcoin. But 15 years ago, Satoshi dropped an iconic line in tech history. This quite reminds us of how people reacted when Bitcoin was created. They laughed and called Bitcoin magic internet money or a direct scam. But now? People become billionaires from Bitcoin, and more new billionaires are investing in it as well.

Satoshi wasn't really disappointed; to be honest, he was one step ahead, and that's why he said he didn't have enough time to convince. Because he knows he has created something revolutionary, and Bitcoin will speak for itself in time. So now, Bitcoin is speaking for itself; people worldwide are running after Bitcoin. His message reminds us, don't argue with Bitcoin haters. Don't waste your time by fighting with them. Let Bitcoin speak for itself and HODL tight.
That's a nice saying. There was the coin, the wallet, blockchain and there was the whitepaper. If you want to know what Bitcoin is and how it works, you can read the whitepaper, Satoshi documented it very well. So, since there is the paper for everyone to read, it's their duty to shake their heads and use their brains to understand whether Bitcoin is good and evolutionary or not, so it was really a waste of time from Satoshi to convince anyone. It was a logical approach from him. By the way, I would argue with Bitcoin haters because they spread the wrong message.

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July 30, 2025, 12:11:50 PM
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Those bitcoin haters are now part of the OGs before they are shouting bitcoin is a scam no future. Now they are speculating how far it will go, why? Maybe they bought in now and started to support once they called a scam. Satoshi is quite smart for his statement and many users reflected on that aa bitcoin one of the best creation in the space.

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July 30, 2025, 12:15:15 PM
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I totally get Satoshi here. Many people are of the kind that you can't convince them with no amount of facts. Others are the kind that you can convince but only after you tell them something tens of times. For mass scale this is not good for individual people, especially those that want to build things. I've had this same problem with Bitcoin in the early days. There are people I told about it but they just refused to or were unable to understand. The risk was minimal, who cares about losing a few hundred dollars. Instead they only saw it again at bull run peaks, but even now they don't get it. I would have wasted a lot more time trying to convince them, what for?

On the other hand I love seeing or meeting a Bitcoiner who understands most of these things already.

Those bitcoin haters are now part of the OGs before they are shouting bitcoin is a scam no future. Now they are speculating how far it will go, why? Maybe they bought in now and started to support once they called a scam. Satoshi is quite smart for his statement and many users reflected on that aa bitcoin one of the best creation in the space.
I don't agree, there are many haters who have not stopped shouting that and some even claim that it will always be a scam no matter the price. That's how desperate they are.  Cheesy
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July 30, 2025, 12:51:08 PM
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Those bitcoin haters are now part of the OGs before they are shouting bitcoin is a scam no future. Now they are speculating how far it will go, why? Maybe they bought in now and started to support once they called a scam. Satoshi is quite smart for his statement and many users reflected on that aa bitcoin one of the best creation in the space.
The Satoshi statement is a testament that action speaks louder than words, he knew that in the future Bitcoin originality and potentials will speak for itself and it's already happening. Many people were calling Bitcoin different things and most of the things where negative but it's not surprising that most of them are now singing a different song, not only changing their mind about it but actually buying it aggressively. I would have been a millionaire by now if I didn't go with the crowd about how Bitcoin was a Ponzi and that it was going to die soon. It is sad that despite everything that Bitcoin has achieved as a store of value we still have doubters and haters, we will simply move ahead without them.

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July 30, 2025, 01:39:59 PM
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Those bitcoin haters are now part of the OGs before they are shouting bitcoin is a scam no future. Now they are speculating how far it will go, why? Maybe they bought in now and started to support once they called a scam. Satoshi is quite smart for his statement and many users reflected on that aa bitcoin one of the best creation in the space.
The Satoshi statement is a testament that action speaks louder than words, he knew that in the future Bitcoin originality and potentials will speak for itself and it's already happening. Many people were calling Bitcoin different things and most of the things where negative but it's not surprising that most of them are now singing a different song, not only changing their mind about it but actually buying it aggressively. I would have been a millionaire by now if I didn't go with the crowd about how Bitcoin was a Ponzi and that it was going to die soon. It is sad that despite everything that Bitcoin has achieved as a store of value we still have doubters and haters, we will simply move ahead without them.

It's inevitable, basically, human nature cannot be stopped.

Some may still think that even Internet may be bad for you in the long run, not something as new as BTC (relatively).
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July 30, 2025, 02:32:59 PM
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Probably one of the most iconic quotes ever in the crypto sphere. Satoshi believed in his creation since the starting and his conviction shines clearly in this quote. I wonder what he feels (wherever he/ they may be), seeing Bitcoin become one of the biggest talking points in tech and the 21st century in general.
I think the quote was addressing critics who may not believe in Bitcoin becoming anything. Just like every new innovation, Bitcoin had its fair share of criticism, we saw it even up to the time Bitcoin price rose to over $1,000 so people believed it was a bubble that would burst and the price crash to zero. I believe most of those vocal critics are now ashamed because their predictions about Bitcoin failed woefully.

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July 30, 2025, 02:57:56 PM
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Probably one of the most iconic quotes ever in the crypto sphere. Satoshi believed in his creation since the starting and his conviction shines clearly in this quote. I wonder what he feels (wherever he/ they may be), seeing Bitcoin become one of the biggest talking points in tech and the 21st century in general.
I think the quote was addressing critics who may not believe in Bitcoin becoming anything. Just like every new innovation, Bitcoin had its fair share of criticism, we saw it even up to the time Bitcoin price rose to over $1,000 so people believed it was a bubble that would burst and the price crash to zero. I believe most of those vocal critics are now ashamed because their predictions about Bitcoin failed woefully.
I won't blame critics then, It was around 2006-2009 cybercrime was rapidly evolving, the likes of phishing, botnets, and banking Trojans slowly laid underground work for large scale attacks which got full maturity around 2017. Many were too skeptical about what the future of internet money would be and dragged their foot.

As more credit goes to Satoshi for his outstanding innovation, a share of the honor should also be shared across the developers, miners and host of bitcoin communities that believed in the project regardless of the doubts and FUD. Today bitcoin is  beyond the mere investment, it is a life time fortune.

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I won't blame critics then, It was around 2006-2009 cybercrime was rapidly evolving, the likes of phishing, botnets, and banking Trojans slowly laid underground work for large scale attacks which got full maturity around 2017. Many were too skeptical about what the future of internet money would be and dragged their foot.
Satoshi Nakamoto thought of such crisis and developed Bitcoin years before this crisis so it's not reason why Satoshi Nakamoto mined the Bitcoin Genesis Block.

It's the message in the Genesis Block if anyone does not know about it.
https://www.thetimes03jan2009.com/

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As more credit goes to Satoshi for his outstanding innovation, a share of the honor should also be shared across the developers, miners and host of bitcoin communities that believed in the project regardless of the doubts and FUD. Today bitcoin is  beyond the mere investment, it is a life time fortune.
Satoshi Nakamoto can not do everything and can not prevent FUD against Bitcoin. If you don't think of Bitcoin, but think of traditional markets, you will see FUDs exist in those markets too. Fortunately, FUDs are FUDs and can not beat Bitcoin down or kill it so far and in the future with less "Bitcoin is dead" over years and better adoption for Bitcoin with time.
https://endthefud.org/
https://bitcoindeaths.com/

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July 30, 2025, 03:37:36 PM
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This is the original post on this forum:

If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=423.msg3819#msg3819


I ink the part that Satoshi wrote it.


They were discussing about scalability and transaction rate there. It is better to get such information directly on this forum to actually know the reason it was said.
Thank you for including the original post. During times like this where misinformation is so rampant, it is so important to know the source. It is not enough that we will believe anyone these days.

Anyway, about what Satoshi had said... I guess this is still applicable today. Maybe even more so. Because internet is now widespread and information is available only in a few clicks. So, if you still don't get it then you should find a way to understand it because there are plenty of ways now.

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