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 The above graph does a nice job at visualizing the wealth disparity between working class Americans in contrast to billionaires and property owners. The lowest income brackets will be even worse off and only those earning amove 1m USD per year will see a noticeable difference based on Trump's financial plan. Is this what Americans were hopeful of when voting for Trump? I honestly don't think so. The bad thing with American politics is that both parties are distracting people from the real issue. To both the American Left and Right, Billionaires are a protected class. When are people going to realize that billionaires are the enemy?
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Oxfam analysis shows the wealth of the 10 richest U.S. billionaires increased by $365 billion in the past 12 months, based on data from Forbes. These billionaires stand to benefit even further from the House of Representatives’ reconciliation bill, which, if passed, would slash over $1 trillion in support for ordinary people in order to pay for an estimated $3.8 trillion in tax cuts skewed toward the ultra-wealthy and corporations. Source This new budget will cut the educational and health support that the poor get from the government, and the money will be channelled to tax breaks enjoyed by the rich. With the reduction of funding to medical care and food aid, a large chunk of the income of low-income earners will be lost. It's not surprising that Donald Trump chose to increase the wealth of billionaires while the common men struggle to make ends meet. He is a billionaire and his circles will influence his policies. There were indications that some of his friends had prior knowledge about his tariff policies. Some of them took advantage of this inside information to make more money.
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Is this what Americans were hopeful of when voting for Trump? I honestly don't think so. The bad thing with American politics is that both parties are distracting people from the real issue. To both the American Left and Right, Billionaires are a protected class. When are people going to realize that billionaires are the enemy?
With your bias, I'm not surprised you don't believe it. The main reason people voted for Trump was to stop the madness of mass immigration, which only served to increase insecurity, worsen public services, and impoverish everyone. It's a textbook plan that is followed in many European countries: let in lots of illegal immigrants very quickly, give them benefits from the start, and thus get grateful voters for life. It is typical of leftist policies to make everyone poorer, except for the political elite and their friends, so that society becomes increasingly dependent on the state. Look at what happened in Argentina, for example. What is clear is that, as a good socialist, what drives you is envy: what bothers you is that there are people who earn more money than you, and for that reason you would prefer everyone to become poorer. It's not surprising that Donald Trump chose to increase the wealth of billionaires while the common men struggle ot make ends meet. He is a billionaire and his circles will influence his policies. There were indications that some of his friends had prior knowledge about his tariff policies. Some of them take advantage of this inside information to make more money.
Do you mean like Nancy Pelosi?
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Even before he was elected you could tell he was only interested in enriching himself, friends and family. You had to be blind to miss it, but he is an excellent performer and populist. He knows how to target the fears of the general population but he has no proper ideas on how to solve problems. His whole business career was basically legal bullying and being shrewd enough to hire the best lawyers, but that doesn't make him the good leader of the country.
You could have watched how he spent the majority of his time golfing in his first term to understand he has no interest in serving the people. He is an old man, just like the president before him, and really there should be a cut off age for such high office - he looks senile on stage and can barely piece together coherent sentences, talks about topics he has no idea on and generally bumbles through most speeches but talks at a dumb enough level for the just over 51% of people who voted that decided to choose him. His presidency is just one long failure with very little substance.
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What is clear is that, as a good socialist, what drives you is envy: what bothers you is that there are people who earn more money than you, and for that reason you would prefer everyone to become poorer.
Don't you think we've fallen off so far as a society if people are accused of envy and jealousy when they call out things they believe to be wrong with the system? If a person believes a system is meant to favour the upper class, it doesn't necessarily mean they're socialist or want everyone to be poor. Throughout the campaign, I kept seeing Trump's party calling everyone else socialist. If people request a certain thing to be subsidised, for example, they will be branded socialist because "they want to earn what they didn't work for". How did we get here? There have always been systems in place so that those who are poor or the lower class will be able to benefit from the state, too, so if that system is being jeopardised and people are speaking against it, it doesn't mean they're socialist or whatever. It is the job of the government to make life easier for its citizens; they don't have to be wealthy, except the person is not ready to work at all. There were indications that some of his friends had prior knowledge about his tariff policies. Some of them take advantage of this inside information to make more money.
His tariff policy was no secret. He stated it during his campaign. Any good businessperson will take advantage of it if they're in a business where they can take advantage. It was no secret. These are the things Trump's campaign was based on. His campaign was based on immigration and tariffs. He said all these things during his campaign, so I don't understand why people are pretending to be surprised now. All the things Trump is doing now are the things he said he would do, but I guess it seemed cool to people during that period, or they just didn't think it through.
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Whenever the economic situation in any country is getting worse with inflation and whatnot, the wealthy elite usually benefit the most. They come out richer in the end! We went through it 6-7 years ago in our country when we had higher than usual economic problems; during that time a lot of millionaires got richer.
In the US this is accelerated because their laws and regulations are actually written by the same wealthy elite to favor them the most. I dare say it mostly started with Reagan in the 1980's when the 1% fully infiltrated the White House and started to truly take over and set policies that favored them. They have only gotten better at it as time passed and they also got more corrupt (controlling markets, insider trading, market manipulation, theft, tax evasion, various illegal activities, etc).
So this chart is very understandable based on what I explained. With Trump weakening US economy with his craziness, that same minority that owns nearly all the wealth and power is getting increasingly richer.
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It's not surprising that Donald Trump chose to increase the wealth of billionaires while the common men struggle to make ends meet. He is a billionaire and his circles will influence his policies. There were indications that some of his friends had prior knowledge about his tariff policies. Some of them took advantage of this inside information to make more money.
Elon Musk a billionaire is his close to Donald Trump before their hilarious fight. Donald is a businessman and I don’t think he stopped being a business after he became president. He has companies and may be linked to some other secret companies. Those tariff policies could have benefited companies he is linked in or owned by his billionaire friends, all this are allegedly but the Trump administration policies lead by a billionaire is becoming profitable for billionaires. Remember his gold card that has a price tag in millions of dollars, that is more like an invitation card for more wealth people to come into the country why the poor or average masses trying to come into the country are scrutinized.
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I thought this was how it works. That the government only helps the rich get richer And widens the gap with the poor, being experiencing such in my country since I can remember. A government that's truly a government and care about their people is now like a myth or at best legendary. Is this what Americans were hopeful of when voting for Trump? I honestly don't think so.
No it was. Right from the onset many were aware that the policies he is pushing for Would favour the richer class But they still chose him for one reason or the other.
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Don't you think we've fallen off so far as a society if people are accused of envy and jealousy when they call out things they believe to be wrong with the system? If a person believes a system is meant to favour the upper class, it doesn't necessarily mean they're socialist or want everyone to be poor.
You only have to look at the threads started by the OP to see that this is the case. And here I am to defend what is happening: that the socialism that the envious love so much is a machine for creating what it claims to defend: the poor. They care so much about the poor that wherever they govern, they keep creating more and more of them. The countries where the lowest incomes live best are the countries where there are the most rich people, and amid all that envy and that garbage about inequality, which is nothing more than a neo-communist term, they forget to mention that low-income people in developed countries today live more comfortably than a king did three centuries ago, but since they are driven by envy and conceive of wealth as a pie rather than a process, they cannot see beyond that.
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Whenever the economic situation in any country is getting worse with inflation and whatnot, the wealthy elite usually benefit the most. They come out richer in the end! We went through it 6-7 years ago in our country when we had higher than usual economic problems; during that time a lot of millionaires got richer.
In the US this is accelerated because their laws and regulations are actually written by the same wealthy elite to favor them the most. I dare say it mostly started with Reagan in the 1980's when the 1% fully infiltrated the White House and started to truly take over and set policies that favored them. They have only gotten better at it as time passed and they also got more corrupt (controlling markets, insider trading, market manipulation, theft, tax evasion, various illegal activities, etc).
So this chart is very understandable based on what I explained. With Trump weakening US economy with his craziness, that same minority that owns nearly all the wealth and power is getting increasingly richer.
Agreed, the fact is that, according to the inverted pyramid, 1% of the world's population currently controls nearly half the wealth of the entire population. So, only a handful of people control half the world's wealth. Income and wealth disparities have naturally created a powerful oligarchy with exceptional influence over policymaking. This 1% can multiply their wealth quickly, easily, and effortlessly through the banking system, stock markets, and fiat money. With all the instruments at their disposal, the wealth of this 1% group increases due to their ability to accumulate assets and invest in businesses and stocks. Human evolution ended with the advent of Western liberal democracy/American democracy (Francis Fukuyama). Liberal democracy, capitalism, and globalization marked the completion of humanity's social, cultural, political, and economic evolution. Capitalism thrives when liberalism exists. Liberalism is useless without capitalism. Capitalism and liberalism are "greedy" creatures, and greed is not bad in capitalism; greed is good. What America has forgotten is that globalization is not a competition between countries, but between companies within those countries. To achieve high profits, as the creed of capitalism dictates, large American companies outsource their production to China. The slogan that previously benefited only America now fairly benefits all actors in every country. Trump assumes that if the country could be managed like a private entity with all the power of a nation, and with Trump at the helm, trillions of dollars would flow into America. Trump's principle is "winner takes all," and as a leader, America must profit first, leaving the rest to chance. https://www.news18.com/photogallery/business/in-pics-the-global-wealth-pyramid-how-much-money-does-the-world-have-6008647.htmlhttps://wealth-monitor.co.uk/the-global-wealth-pyramid/
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Human evolution ended with the advent of Western liberal democracy/American democracy (Francis Fukuyama).
Funny thing is that each time someone comes up with one of these messed up "isms" they call it the "best thing ever" and that it is going to be the final "ism"  Liberalism which was all based on Laissez-faire and a system where everything can be traded even your "soul" so to speak, was doomed to fail by design. I personally believe it was the worst of them all since it spread like the plague across the world. At least communism only infected some parts of the world. We are even seeing today that this American Democracy plague is not even different from Fascism or what the Nazi regime did in the 40's. The Western Democracy is committing worse atrocities in Palestine 24/7 that are also being broadcast live for the whole world to see. Income and wealth disparities have naturally created a powerful oligarchy with exceptional influence over policymaking. This 1% can multiply their wealth quickly, easily, and effortlessly through the banking system, stock markets, and fiat money. With all the instruments at their disposal, the wealth of this 1% group increases due to their ability to accumulate assets and invest in businesses and stocks.
Some of those who have gotten rich, have done it through hard work and most importantly by being smart. So the second part is correct, they invest better and wiser and they increase their wealth better. So this is one reason why the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. But the problem is in the first line, when they use their wealth and influence to get ahead. Even change regulations to favor them instead. One example off the top of my head is the case with taxes. Usually that 1% don't pay any taxes because they have actually changed the laws to allow them to avoid paying them legally! Meanwhile an average American for instance flipping burgers at McDonald's has to pay a big chunk of his or her paycheck to the government as taxes! And this is the other reason why the rich get richer and the poor get poorer!
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Is this what Americans were hopeful of when voting for Trump? I honestly don't think so. The bad thing with American politics is that both parties are distracting people from the real issue. To both the American Left and Right, Billionaires are a protected class. When are people going to realize that billionaires are the enemy?
With your bias, I'm not surprised you don't believe it. The main reason people voted for Trump was to stop the madness of mass immigration, which only served to increase insecurity, worsen public services, and impoverish everyone. It's a textbook plan that is followed in many European countries: let in lots of illegal immigrants very quickly, give them benefits from the start, and thus get grateful voters for life. I too believe its too early to decide Trump is good or not for the people. US had been suffering from illegal immigrants. There are people who are claiming these illegal immigrants are running the US economy but it isn't. If US needs immigrants, it should take them legally, not only it would help US plan their needs and ask for and allocate accordingly, it also helps the immigrants to have better human rights and working rights. Similarly, Many countries around the world were sending goods to US on zero tariff while they levied tariff on US goods. Trump's action might not be diplomatic enough but he's doing what he said he would.
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Since he took position as the president of the United States, he implemented new polies, increased tax rates and threatened other states and countries.
What more can we expect from someone who's first move as a crypto president was to create his own coin. He just wants the best for his own advantage and I doubt he thinks more about the poor.
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Not just Trump but this is what every government does to their citizens, we think that we will have a better life after this election and when the new leader comes in nothing changes, the prices of fuel, electricty, gorceries will increase, government will also increase their tax rates to sustain theur spendings and say we need to develop so everyone must contribute but it's always the rich make most out of these new polcies while average employee got nothing to say in and hoping a miracle to change their lives.
We are cursed if we don't find a way to make loads of money.
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Not just Trump but this is what every government does to their citizens, we think that we will have a better life after this election and when the new leader comes in nothing changes, the prices of fuel, electricty, gorceries will increase, government will also increase their tax rates to sustain theur spendings and say we need to develop so everyone must contribute but it's always the rich make most out of these new polcies while average employee got nothing to say in and hoping a miracle to change their lives.
We are cursed if we don't find a way to make loads of money.
And with that being said, it is now up to you how you will elevate your economic conditions. It means, don't rely to any politician to uplift your living status. You can work on your own and do your due diligence to change your path without relying from anyone. I believe, in this life, rely on yourself if you want to improve your living conditions. You don't need to blame anyone about on what you have. Because it is your life, so it is on you how you will alter your life for the better. Do remember these rags-to-riches stories, think of the perseverance and the grit that they had to endure to reach that level. It means, the work is on you not from others. If you are about to give up, think of the reason why you need to do such thing. Always think of your motivation so you can align yourself again with what you want to achieve.
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August 01, 2025, 11:14:25 PM |
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The democratic policies have done so much for the poor class, surely they will fix everything just elect them another 100 times.  Liberalism which was all based on Laissez-faire and a system where everything can be traded even your "soul" so to speak, was doomed to fail by design. I personally believe it was the worst of them all since it spread like the plague across the world. At least communism only infected some parts of the world. We are even seeing today that this American Democracy plague is not even different from Fascism or what the Nazi regime did in the 40's. The Western Democracy is committing worse atrocities in Palestine 24/7 that are also being broadcast live for the whole world to see.
The problems that you see today are not consequences of liberalism or laissez-faire, it is based on corrupt capitalism and oligarchy. Free trade and free markets does not mean free from any and all consequences. Instead what you have in the west is the powers that be manipulate every possible law and instrument to entrench power and prevent competition. Just look at the EU. They will have 1000 page laws about law making soon, all for the sake of preserving democracy and never for the sake of making it harder for someone to clean up the mess. Even the small chart at the bottom of the picture is just propaganda. The lowest earners are losing not because someone else is trying to make them poorer, but because people are sick of them being parasites. There are many benefits and aid that was cut but precisely because it is done in a backwards incentive. If you earn more money by not working more hours, then something is very wrong in that income bracket. This was the case for many of those parasites, and now the benefits have been cut.
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Since he took position as the president of the United States, he implemented new polies, increased tax rates and threatened other states and countries.
What more can we expect from someone who's first move as a crypto president was to create his own coin. He just wants the best for his own advantage and I doubt he thinks more about the poor.
It did never be one of his priorities to defend poor people and homeless persons who are about 2% of the population (arround 26 million person). I don't remember Trump talked about poor people in his electoral promises. All his promises were call for racist people to fire immigrants and build a wall (big wall) and to blackmail USA friends arround the world, and many other projects to invade half of the world and to blackmail the other half. He is insane and those who believe him making America great again are more insaner than him.
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August 01, 2025, 11:18:33 PM |
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Since he took position as the president of the United States, he implemented new polies, increased tax rates and threatened other states and countries.
What more can we expect from someone who's first move as a crypto president was to create his own coin. He just wants the best for his own advantage and I doubt he thinks more about the poor.
It did never be one of his priorities to defend poor people and homeless persons who are about 2% of the population (arround 26 million person). I don't remember Trump talked about poor people in his electoral promises. All his promises were call for racist people to fire immigrants and build a wall (big wall) and to blackmail USA friends arround the world, and many other projects to invade half of the world and to blackmail the other half. Absolutely, the majority of the US population and western population is racist.  Get over it, nobody who isn't a commie marxist retard wants illegal immigrants or hordes of immigrants with incompatible cultures. Trump campaigned on several things and he is delivering on most of them. This is what people wanted and they are getting it. Deal with it. He is insane and those who believe him making America great again are more insaner than him.
Definitely, your 3rd world shithole is becoming greater than our dear America. Soon by the year 2100 you may have stable electricity and working sewage system, endure just a little while in this great prosperity of yours.
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August 01, 2025, 11:19:34 PM |
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The rich always gets richer after all. And it's no doubt that many of the leaders policies are more beneficial to the wealthy and elite. The bad thing with American politics is that both parties are distracting people from the real issue. To both the American Left and Right, Billionaires are a protected class. When are people going to realize that billionaires are the enemy?
Most of the countries are like this. Leaders and officials are distracting on what's the real issue and problem of the country that needs to addressed and be solved asap. It cannot be helped that many of them are there to protect the wealthy and they will benefit from it as well. It's a win-win to both parties.
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August 01, 2025, 11:21:07 PM |
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The rich always gets richer after all. And it's no doubt that many of the leaders policies are more beneficial to the wealthy and elite. The bad thing with American politics is that both parties are distracting people from the real issue. To both the American Left and Right, Billionaires are a protected class. When are people going to realize that billionaires are the enemy?
Most of the countries are like this. Leaders and officials are distracting on what's the real issue and problem of the country that needs to addressed and be solved asap. It cannot be helped that many of them are there to protect the wealthy and they will benefit from it as well. It's a win-win to both parties. Whatever problems of corruption and protecting the wealthy America has it is worse in 90% or more of the countries in the world. People only highlight America because it is so big and rich, and has massive influence over everything. If we really compared corruption properly everywhere, nobody would mention America for many years.
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