Cannot restore my BTC wallet with a seed frase.

[KiaKia]

If you were able to restore wallet using the same seed phrase you had written down originally without any problems, the case shouldn’t be any different even after funding with a good sum.
My best guess is, you have done something to the wallet in your derivation part.

It’s always a garbage in and garbage out for these systems.
How about you don’t try to be any sophisticated and just try to restore a standard wallet, following numeral procedures. You shouldn’t have any problems restoring your wallet address.

I think I tried like 500 times with different parameters in the past 20 hours.
Tried my seed frase on iancoleman.io, it shows "invalid mnemonic".
Looks like its a native Etherium seed frase. That means the only option is - I used an extended seed frase? Because you cannot mess with derivation path, when creating a seed in Electrum. Or am I wrong?

I don't know if this can help, since you mentioned iancoleman and it's showing invalid please watch out for capital letters in your seed phrase, they should all be in small letters especially the first word.

Another one is space, I know it can sound stupid but I once found myself in this same position, normally as a iancoleman user you shouldn't be getting invalid, most of the time it happens because of space and capital letters.

If none of these are the case then the derivation path is where you should look into just like some suggested on here, that shit can be complicated for a beginner though but if you can take your time you will get it.

[Franctoshi]

Five months ago I created a bitcoin wallet in electrum. I created the seed phrase in electrum (I'm 90% sure) on a macbook. I put a small amount there, deleted the wallet file, deleted electrum. I immediately reinstalled electrum, entered the seed phrase, the wallet was restored, the amount was displayed on the balance. The seed phrase is absolutely correct, I rewrote it many times and remembered it, entered it exactly from a piece of paper. The seed phrase was 12 words without an additional word. I transferred a larger sum there.

After that, I deleted the wallet file. Then restored it. Then deleted it again.

5 months later I am trying to restore it, the balance is 0. I found the address in the blockchain where I transferred the money, btc is there, but this address is not in the list of wallet addresses. I tried to restore the wallet in BlueWallet, it identified the seed phrase as electrum segwit. 0 ballance.

Any ideas what to do now?

This situation can be worrying and annoying at the same time, but let's get something clearer: you said you wrote it many times on different places or just one place? That's my question. If the answer is that you wrote it in different places, do well to compare your seed phrases you wrote down in other places; maybe the one you used to try to gain back access to your electrum wallet after months back might have a bit of an error or differ.

[Bitcoin Smith]

I think I started to remember smth. I could generate an electrum seed fraze. Then when restoring selected Bip39 "to check compatibility", ignoring "bip39 checksum failed". Electrum allowes that. (I didn't know it altered adresses). Then probably changed smth in derivation path.
The question is how do I check all derivation paths, knowing seed fraze and 2 adresses.

Electrum doesn't generate BIP39 seeds, so you are just contradicting your statements. But the checksum failed warning is for the BIP39 seeds that are generated in BIP39 compatible wallet and you can import that on electrum and checksum is to verify the correctness of the entered seeds, so if you get a warning then it means entered seeds were incorrect.

You can ignore the warning and proceed when you are sure the seeds are right but it just generate the address as per the derviation path that you chose.

I recommend you to move this thread to Electrum section.

[nodc3]

Five months ago I created a bitcoin wallet in electrum. I created the seed phrase in electrum (I'm 90% sure) on a macbook. I put a small amount there, deleted the wallet file, deleted electrum. I immediately reinstalled electrum, entered the seed phrase, the wallet was restored, the amount was displayed on the balance. The seed phrase is absolutely correct, I rewrote it many times and remembered it, entered it exactly from a piece of paper. The seed phrase was 12 words without an additional word. I transferred a larger sum there.

After that, I deleted the wallet file. Then restored it. Then deleted it again.

5 months later I am trying to restore it, the balance is 0. I found the address in the blockchain where I transferred the money, btc is there, but this address is not in the list of wallet addresses. I tried to restore the wallet in BlueWallet, it identified the seed phrase as electrum segwit. 0 ballance.

Any ideas what to do now?

This situation can be worrying and annoying at the same time, but let's get something clearer: you said you wrote it many times on different places or just one place? That's my question. If the answer is that you wrote it in different places, do well to compare your seed phrases you wrote down in other places; maybe the one you used to try to gain back access to your electrum wallet after months back might have a bit of an error or differ.

I had printed it in 3 copies, later I copied it to metal plates. I also remember the phrase quite well.
I currently have 2 theories:
1) I for some reason used extended seed phrase (20% chance). Tried all my passwords as a 13th word, tried both electrum native segwit and BIP39.
2) I generated a seed phrase in Electrum. Then recovered the wallet, but using BEP39 option. (80%) I remember I was changing letters "h" for ' in derivation path. Probably I was copying the derivation path from some web article, so it should be smth fairly standard.  Address starts with bc1q, so there are less options. I tried standard derivation paths, nothing worked. (If someone has a list I can manually bruteforce with - I'd be thankful).
Tried checking browser history from that day - nothing, its gone. Tried google activity - nothing that day, prolly used incognito. Tried recovering deleted wallet file on my macbook - nothing. Somehow cannot even recover the one I've deleted today. Going to have some sleep and hope to get more ideas tomorrow. To be honest, I don't get, how I could fk up so bad. I remember I was double checking everything I was doing to be sure I would be able to repeat that.

[promise444c5]

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Let me ask you this, what exactly happened  when you first tested the seed that you had with you,the first attempt..

[GeorgeJohn]

The only way you have your bitcoin back is when the seed phrase you wrote in the paper is all current, what might caused the challenge you are having there, is that you may be inputting a wrong seed phrase, if the address is current and your seed phrase is correct you most see your balance...I will advice you to take your time and look for the address that have the seed phrase you're using to input the seed phrase, secondly check if the seed phrase is the authentic seed phrase for the wallet and again do not do those things under frustration or  pressure, just calm yourself down before you tried it again.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Five months ago I created a bitcoin wallet in electrum. I created the seed phrase in electrum (I'm 90% sure) on a macbook. I put a small amount there, deleted the wallet file, deleted electrum. I immediately reinstalled electrum, entered the seed phrase, the wallet was restored, the amount was displayed on the balance. The seed phrase is absolutely correct, I rewrote it many times and remembered it, entered it exactly from a piece of paper. The seed phrase was 12 words without an additional word. I transferred a larger sum there.

After that, I deleted the wallet file. Then restored it. Then deleted it again.

5 months later I am trying to restore it, the balance is 0. I found the address in the blockchain where I transferred the money, btc is there, but this address is not in the list of wallet addresses. I tried to restore the wallet in BlueWallet, it identified the seed phrase as electrum segwit. 0 ballance.

Any ideas what to do now?

This situation can be worrying and annoying at the same time, but let's get something clearer: you said you wrote it many times on different places or just one place? That's my question. If the answer is that you wrote it in different places, do well to compare your seed phrases you wrote down in other places; maybe the one you used to try to gain back access to your electrum wallet after months back might have a bit of an error or differ.

I had printed it in 3 copies, later I copied it to metal plates. I also remember the phrase quite well.
I currently have 2 theories:
1) I for some reason used extended seed phrase (20% chance). Tried all my passwords as a 13th word, tried both electrum native segwit and BIP39.
2) I generated a seed phrase in Electrum. Then recovered the wallet, but using BEP39 option. (80%) I remember I was changing letters "h" for ' in derivation path. Probably I was copying the derivation path from some web article, so it should be smth fairly standard.  Address starts with bc1q, so there are less options. I tried standard derivation paths, nothing worked. (If someone has a list I can manually bruteforce with - I'd be thankful).
Tried checking browser history from that day - nothing, its gone. Tried google activity - nothing that day, prolly used incognito. Tried recovering deleted wallet file on my macbook - nothing. Somehow cannot even recover the one I've deleted today. Going to have some sleep and hope to get more ideas tomorrow. To be honest, I don't get, how I could fk up so bad. I remember I was double checking everything I was doing to be sure I would be able to repeat that.

All these actions remind us of the rule that "the best is always the enemy of the good."
Sometimes users resort to such paranoid settings that they regularly change passwords, phrases, and syllables, which causes great confusion. Since this topic is in the section for beginners, I can advise for those starting their journey here: do not be too inventive; simplicity is sometimes the best solution. Create a seed phrase, write it down in a place where prying eyes cannot see, and that's it; no more witchcraft is needed. Buying a hardware wallet is also a wise decision.

[nodc3]

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Let me ask you this, what exactly happened  when you first tested the seed that you had with you,the first attempt..

You mean now, or 5 month ago? 5 month ago I restored the wallet and saw my ballance there.
I remember I didn't use any kind of help, I was restoring it using only my memory and the seed phrase 1 min after I deleted electrum and the wallet file. And the ballance was there.
So it wasn't something complicated that I did. I did something that looked logical to me at that moment, and I was sure I'll be able to repeat that in the future.
2 days ago I restored it and the ballance was 0, and the adress was not in the list of adresses of the wallet.

The only way you have your bitcoin back is when the seed phrase you wrote in the paper is all current, what might caused the challenge you are having there, is that you may be inputting a wrong seed phrase, if the address is current and your seed phrase is correct you most see your balance...I will advice you to take your time and look for the address that have the seed phrase you're using to input the seed phrase, secondly check if the seed phrase is the authentic seed phrase for the wallet and again do not do those things under frustration or  pressure, just calm yourself down before you tried it again.

The seed phrase is 100% correct. I know it by heart. I remember typing it 5 month ago when restoring the wallet. I also tried all my passwords, words, pincodes etc as a 13th word both in electrum segwit and Bip39 variations.
I think its the derivation path, that I changed.
I currently tried:
m/0'
m/0'/0'
m/0'/0'/0'
m/0'/0'/0'/0'
from m/44'/0'/0' to m/63'/0'/0'
m/0
m/0/0
m/0/0/0
m/0/0/0/0
m/0'/0/0
m/84'/0'/0'
m/84'/0'/1'
m/84'/0'/2'
m/84'/0'/3'
m/84'/0'/4'
m/84'/0'/5'
m/49/0/0
m/47'/0'/0'
m/44h/60h/0h

Any commonly used ones, that give bc1q adresses, that I missed?
Any suggestions on a good trustworthy firm, that can help me, if I fail to recover it? Lets just say I had more than one BTC there
And can a moderator move this theme to Electrum section? Hopefully I'll get some more advice there.

[Cricktor]

Tried my seed frase on iancoleman.io, it shows "invalid mnemonic".
Looks like its a native Etherium seed frase. That means the only option is - I used an extended seed frase? Because you cannot mess with derivation path, when creating a seed in Electrum. Or am I wrong?

If you entered your mnemonic recovery words on the online version of https://iancoleman.io/bip39/, then consider your recovery words as compromised and you shouldn't use it anymore once you managed to recover your funds.

If you use a native Electrum wallet, you usually have no choice to change the derivation path at all. Electrum uses fixed preset derivation paths and doesn't give you a choice at creation or restore.

Any commonly used ones, that give bc1q adresses, that I missed?

Many of your tried derivation paths aren't common at all and you don't seem to understand the difference between hardened and non-hardened paths. I would suggest to learn a bit about HD wallets and derivation paths here: https://learnmeabitcoin.com/technical/keys/hd-wallets/

When you create and restore a native Electrum wallet from Electrum mnemonic recovery words, you're not offered a choice for a derivation path. Electrum uses m/0h (same as m/0') on the account extended key level for single-signer native Segwit address type wallets.

Individual receive addresses have full derivation paths:
m/0h/0/0  —  first
m/0h/0/1  —  second
m/0h/0/2  —  third
...

Individual change addresses have full derivation paths:
m/0h/1/0  —  first
m/0h/1/1  —  second
m/0h/1/2  —  third
...

The settings in Electrum generate per default a native Segwit address, e.g. for a BIP39 wallet defined by user's choice of radio button in Choose the type of addresses in your wallet. in the "Script type and Derivation path" dialog.

You can have native Segwit address type and an arbitrary derivation path, but users are warned to not change the default (for reasons!). If you change something here and you don't document it for your wallet, this is a good recipe for later desaster (as we likely have here in your case).

You were once able to restore your funded wallet properly. Why haven't you documented all the steps of restauration, if you're not too familiar with all the technicalities? I've also no idea why you constantly de-install Electrum and delete your wallet file without keeping backups of your wallet file (it should be secured by a strong wallet encryption passphrase anyway). Any good reasons for this?

Yes, I know that you don't really need a backup of your wallet file, when you have 100% working, documented and verified wallet restoration details. But apparently you don't have that, you changed something foolishly.

BTW, did you download Electrum solely from https://www.electrum.org/#download and verified your download is genuine?


Yes, it's true, if you switch to BIP39 mnemonic recovery words and your BIP39 checksum doesn't match, Electrum still allows you to proceed and get to the next step of "Script type and Derivation path" dialog. But I'd say, why proceed with a failed BIP39 checksum? Messing with this and a non-default changed derivation path AND  not documented, is fool's territory.
It's not my intend to attack you specifically, I just feel the urge to highlight that it's very dangerous to make non-standard changes AND fail to document all the necessary details and steps taken.

Any suggestions on a good trustworthy firm, that can help me, if I fail to recover it? Lets just say I had more than one BTC there

Choose your professional help wisely. Red flags are usually services that charge you upfront.

I had no business case with Dave, but my perception of his services is so that I do recommend to get in touch with him.
See old thread Bitcoin Wallet Recovery Services - for forgotten wallet password and don't be thrown off by initial negative comments. It's a natural reflex of many users to dismiss even totally legit and honest services as scams. Reputation has to be earned!

Pay close attention to proper spelling of his website, because there're fraudsters who exploit typos, especially when you use ...service.com instead of ...services.com!

Dave charges you only on success which is usually a good sign. My perception of his business is that he will assess your case and will honestly tell you if he's in or not. He has more than a decade of experience and likely pretty powerful gear for cracking.

In any case: DYOR! You don't have any reason to trust my judgement.


Your main problem is that you've changed something which you haven't documented and this needs a very structured and methodical approach.

An additional question that popped up for me: have you re-used your receive address, i.e. do you see your smaller transfer AND your later larger transfer in just one address?

And can a moderator move this theme to Electrum section? Hopefully I'll get some more advice there.

You can do that yourself, at least on the desktop. Not sure, if you're using a mobile to post here.

[nodc3]

All these actions remind us of the rule that "the best is always the enemy of the good."
Sometimes users resort to such paranoid settings that they regularly change passwords, phrases, and syllables, which causes great confusion. Since this topic is in the section for beginners, I can advise for those starting their journey here: do not be too inventive; simplicity is sometimes the best solution. Create a seed phrase, write it down in a place where prying eyes cannot see, and that's it; no more witchcraft is needed. Buying a hardware wallet is also a wise decision.

Absolutely agree.

Many of your tried derivation paths aren't common at all and you don't seem to understand the difference between hardened and non-hardened paths. I would suggest to learn a bit about HD wallets and derivation paths here: https://learnmeabitcoin.com/technical/keys/hd-wallets/

Thanks, will do.

You were once able to restore your funded wallet properly. Why haven't you documented all the steps of restauration, if you're not too familiar with all the technicalities? I've also no idea why you constantly de-install Electrum and delete your wallet file without keeping backups of your wallet file (it should be secured by a strong wallet encryption passphrase anyway). Any good reasons for this?

My idea was to make a wallet, that noone can access even knowing all my passwords and having a physical access to all my belongings. And yes, I was not too familiar with all the technicalities. I was travelling to Cambodia, and Vietnam and wasn't aware these were pretty safe countries.

BTW, did you download Electrum solely from https://www.electrum.org/#download and verified your download is genuine?

yes, I'm using same version, tried on pc and mac.

But I'd say, why proceed with a failed BIP39 checksum? Messing with this and a non-default changed derivation path AND  not documented, is fool's territory.

I agree, why would I do it. I think I wanted smth that I can restore if electrum is unavailable, but I was too paranoid to use smth like bitaddress or Coleman's page. That's why I used electrum for a seed generation, and tried if it works, if I switch to BIP39. When it worked and I tested everything with a small amount of money,  I proceeded to use this method. I just remember I saw the dialog with derivation path, not 100% sure I used it. And I remember I was reading some article online and changing letters h in derivation path to '. Prolly could change smth else too. But I'm almost sure after all the operations I deleted the wallet file, deleted electrum. Then restored everything and exhaled. Then deleted again.

An additional question that popped up for me: have you re-used your receive address, i.e. do you see your smaller transfer AND your later larger transfer in just one address?

Great question. No. I used "receive" tab, it gave me the address. I didn't even have addresses tab turned on in my view. I was new to Electrum. The second time I was using "receive" tab it gave me another address and I remember I was googling, if it was normal for Electrum to have different recieveing addresses.

[nodc3]

I've found an article on the forum that I was reading, when I was creating a wallet. Thats a huge leap forward.
It was stated there, that second index in derivation path for Bitcoin is 44 (m/44'/0'/0'/0/0), and for Ethereum is 60 (m/44'/60'/0'/0/0).
I believed it was a common knowledge and changed it to 44, I'm pretty sure.
That still doesn't give me my wallet adress, I guess I changed smth in other indexes too. But much less to bruteforce now.

[rdluffy]

Coincidentally, there is a user with a problem similar to yours, not exactly the same, but similar
Here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5551688.0

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I currently have 2 theories:
1) I for some reason used extended seed phrase (20% chance). Tried all my passwords as a 13th word, tried both electrum native segwit and BIP39.
2) I generated a seed phrase in Electrum. Then recovered the wallet, but using BEP39 option. (80%) I remember I was changing letters "h" for ' in derivation path. Probably I was copying the derivation path from some web article, so it should be smth fairly standard.  Address starts with bc1q, so there are less options. I tried standard derivation paths, nothing worked. (If someone has a list I can manually bruteforce with - I'd be thankful).
Tried checking browser history from that day - nothing, its gone. Tried google activity - nothing that day, prolly used incognito. Tried recovering deleted wallet file on my macbook - nothing. Somehow cannot even recover the one I've deleted today. Going to have some sleep and hope to get more ideas tomorrow. To be honest, I don't get, how I could fk up so bad. I remember I was double checking everything I was doing to be sure I would be able to repeat that.

I am a disorganized person, so I would never be able to do something in the moment to remember it after a few weeks
It's a recommendation for anyone creating a new wallet: only use an extended word if you can write it down somewhere so you'll never forget it
Something may make sense at the time, but after a few months you won't remember it anymore. This is quite dangerous and may have happened to you, since you can't remember 100% of the steps you took to create your wallet

I would suggest that you try to find your search and browsing history, but I see that it doesn't appear
Do you still have the same Electrum installation file in your downloads folder?
You can try repeating the process and see if you can remember any important information

Another thing you can try is to remember at least where you found the tutorial to create your wallet. Maybe you can find the same article and remember something they instructed you to do

[Cricktor]

Great question. No. I used "receive" tab, it gave me the address. I didn't even have addresses tab turned on in my view. I was new to Electrum. The second time I was using "receive" tab it gave me another address and I remember I was googling, if it was normal for Electrum to have different recieveing addresses.

When you request a receive address, Electrum will choose the next available one that has no transaction history yet AND is not already listed in the "Requests" section on the Receive tab.

When a requested receive address has been funded, it's totally normal and desired behavior that Electrum (or any other decent Bitcoin wallet) chooses a new unused receive address when asked for it.

I've found an article on the forum that I was reading, when I was creating a wallet. Thats a huge leap forward.
It was stated there, that second index in derivation path for Bitcoin is 44 (m/44'/0'/0'/0/0), and for Ethereum is 60 (m/44'/60'/0'/0/0).
I believed it was a common knowledge and changed it to 44, I'm pretty sure.
That still doesn't give me my wallet adress, I guess I changed smth in other indexes too. But much less to bruteforce now.

You may want to give https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0044.mediawiki a read.

We define the following 5 levels in BIP32 path:

Code:

m / purpose' / coin_type' / account' / change / address_index

Apostrophe in the path indicates that BIP32 hardened derivation is used.

Each level has a special meaning, described in the chapters below.
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If you get to the address type and derivation path choice dialog during restore, you MUST have used the BIP39 mnemonic recovery words option in Electrum.

Purpose 44' or 44h basically refers to BIP44 and legacy address derivation for Bitcoin (coin_type 0' or 0h.

You could still have chosen native Segwit address type and a derivation path of m/44h/0h/0h instead of the default value of m/84h/0h/0h on the account level as Electrum expects it at this step. It doesn't matter if you use m/44h/0h/0h or m/44'/0'/0', both are equivalent.

m/44'/0'/0'/0/0 is full path derivation up to the individual address' path, here first receive Bitcoin address of first account of a HD wallet according to BIP44. On account level (m/44'/0'/0') it's not recommended to use any unhardened index/path.

Change index (receive addresses is index 0, change addresses is index 1) and address_index are typically non-hardened paths.

Whatever you've chosen for the derivation path, basically regardless of its length, Electrum would've accepted it as long as the indices are in the valid range. (I haven't tested if there's some derivation path length limit in Electrum.)


As a warning...

My idea was to make a wallet, that noone can access even knowing all my passwords and having a physical access to all my belongings.

You were quite successful with that, likely not as intended by you, because "noone" includes yourself!

If you had kept at least one backup Electrum wallet file, it would've been possible to look up the used derivation path at menu Wallet>Information. Sadly, you deleted them all without any backup or copy in Recycle bin. Apple has Time Machine or iCloud sync. None of that used? (Well, cloud sync could be dangerous if you have poor wallet encryption passphrases. Don't forget: a cloud is someone else's computers.)

[BitMaxz]

It seems that you almost did all possible ways to restore your original wallet.
And you also tried to recover the deleted wallet file on the MacBook, but you didn't mention what tool you used?
Would you mind telling us what tool you used to recover the wallet file?

I'd like to suggest you try Disk Drill to scan the whole drive, and let's see if it could find "default_wallet."

If it doesn't work, then your last hope is to know what you did to your seed phrase before making any copy.
I am thinking maybe you did scramble a few phrase? Or maybe you change the last part of your seed phrase?

If yes then try to brute force it using The finderOuter check the link below

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214021.0

[Abdussamad]

Just to confirm you are seeing a green orb in the bottom right of the electrum window? What version of electrum are you using?

[nodc3]

You were quite successful with that, likely not as intended by you, because "noone" includes yourself!

Haha, yes!
I’ve found out h is equal to ‘ in derivation path empirically.
I have a flashback where I was changing h to ‘ next to number 44. So most probablythe beginning is m/44’/
And I remember it had more than one ‘.

It seems that you almost did all possible ways to restore your original wallet.
And you also tried to recover the deleted wallet file on the MacBook, but you didn't mention what tool you used?
Would you mind telling us what tool you used to recover the wallet file?

I'd like to suggest you try Disk Drill to scan the whole drive, and let's see if it could find "default_wallet."

If it doesn't work, then your last hope is to know what you did to your seed phrase before making any copy.
I am thinking maybe you did scramble a few phrase? Or maybe you change the last part of your seed phrase?

If yes then try to brute force it using The finderOuter check the link below

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214021.0

I was using Disk Drill, even did all the complicated stuff with lowering my disk security for deep scan.
No clouds, backups, nothing.
Pfrase is right Im sure.

Just to confirm you are seeing a green orb in the bottom right of the electrum window? What version of electrum are you using?

Yes.
I feel like I did a good progress today in remembering some details today. Also did a lot of structured brute forcing by hands.Will continue tomorrow. And thx everyone for trying to help, means a lot now.

[BitMaxz]

I was using Disk Drill, even did all the complicated stuff with lowering my disk security for deep scan.
No clouds, backups, nothing.
Pfrase is right Im sure.

If you already did that, then your last hope is the backup seed phrase, and if you're sure that seed phrase is correct, then, like others said here, you might be using a different path.

The link that I provided above is a tool that can help you to find the right derivation path under missing BIP32 path just provide the correct seed phrase and the public key you are looking for and add a passphrase. Just in case the first attempt does not work, you can put any possible passphrase that you think you used before, but first try it with no passphrase.

[nc50lc]

There is a chance it was generated outside electrum. But I think I settled for electrum seed frase. I even could modify derivation path (very low probability). But I somehow restored it easily.

It's easy to confirm this.

During seed restoration process, pay attention to the message below the seed phrase:

• With "BIP39 seed" option unticked, it should show the "Seed Type" of the reserve number of your seed phrase if it's an Electrum seed.
  If there's no message and the next button is grayed-out, it's not a valid Electrum seed.
• With "BIP39 seed" option ticked, it should detect any error in the seed phrase if it's not a valid BIP39 seed,
  Otherwise, there shouldn't be any error message displayed for valid BIP39 seed.

If it's neither of the case, then it's not a BIP39 nor Electrum seed phrase.
Is the arrangement of the words in your written backup correct?

I remember I was clicking (*)Native segwit or smth in Electrum.

Regardless of the origin of the seed phrase, when those script type options are displayed, it means that you've ticked "BIP39 seed".

Additionally, you pretty much tested all standard, common and erroneous derivation paths already via 'Detect Existing Accounts' button.
Here's the list BTW so you wont retry those that the detect feature already tested:
github.com/spesmilo/electrum/blob/master/electrum/bip39_wallet_formats.json

[Cricktor]

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Although not 100% reliably confirmed, it seems so far OP created an Electrum seed, but switched to BIP39 option to mess around with derivation path. We don't know for sure, if none of the recovery words or their sequence have been messed with. Anyway, this will very likely give a BIP39 checksum error but we know that Electrum allows to proceed even with such a checksum error.

OP says he has paper and metal backups of recovery words. I would assume any alterations (or none) of recovery words would've been done before making a metal backup.

Of course there's the possibility that OP altered the recovery words in some way as a means of obfuscation and backed up the obfuscated words (which is foolish and a recipe for desaster when not additionally properly documented elsewhere).

I'm almost running out of crazy ideas what could've been done wrong. 

Frankly, I don't know if FinderOuter can cope with such crazy things that might have happened in this case. (Haven't had to use that tool yet.)

I have a flashback where I was changing h to ‘ next to number 44. So most probablythe beginning is m/44’/
And I remember it had more than one ‘.

I would highly recommend to properly document anything that you might remember so that you're able to thoroughly explore and exhaust any detail in your search methodically.

OP, you have a messy spelling with certain terms, especially with the word "phrase".

If BIP39 option is ticked and you have a spelling error in any of the recovery words, making that word not be in the BIP39 wordlist, Electrum will display "Unknown BIP39 wordlist" below the entry box and next to the "Options" button! But also in such a case, you can still proceed in Electrum to the next step. Watch carefully what is displayed next to "Options" button. You don't want to introduce more variables than necessary.

[nodc3]

Is the arrangement of the words in your written backup correct?

It is, no doubt.

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Although not 100% reliably confirmed, it seems so far OP created an Electrum seed, but switched to BIP39 option to mess around with derivation path. We don't know for sure, if none of the recovery words or their sequence have been messed with. Anyway, this will very likely give a BIP39 checksum error but we know that Electrum allows to proceed even with such a checksum error.

OP says he has paper and metal backups of recovery words. I would assume any alterations (or none) of recovery words would've been done before making a metal backup.

Of course there's the possibility that OP altered the recovery words in some way as a means of obfuscation and backed up the obfuscated words (which is foolish and a recipe for desaster when not additionally properly documented elsewhere).

I'm almost running out of crazy ideas what could've been done wrong.  

Frankly, I don't know if FinderOuter can cope with such crazy things that might have happened in this case. (Haven't had to use that tool yet.)

My conclusion to this moment is:
I created a seed phrase using electrum, it was in electrum format. But I wanted smth that can be restored without electrum. So I just used it as a Bip39 seed phrase, and it worked, even with a "Bip39 checksum failed".
Meanwhile I was reading articles about restoring a btc wallet only using a seed phrase. I found out I should use m/44'/0'/0'/0/0 for bitcoin. I also have a new flashback, that I deleted some of the indexes in the end with a thought "I don't know wtf is that, lets see if it works without it." (Thats a new detail I remembered yesterday before sleep). Also I remember replacing "h" with '.
It worked, I got a working wallet and was able to restore it after deleting. I printed seed phrase, learned it by heart. Then moved a large sum there. Then deleted and restored the wallet again. It worked, I was happy.
Thats pretty much it. If I'm right, the derivation path should not be too complicated, since I deleted some indexes out of it.
Here is the list of derivation paths I tried:

m/84'/0'/0'
m/84'/0'/1'
m/84'/0'/2'
m/84'/0'/3'
m/84'/0'/4'
m/84'/0'/5'
m/49/0/0
m/47'/0'/0'
m/44'/60'/0'
m/44'/0'/1'/0/0
m/44'/0'/2'/0/0
m/44'/0'/3'/0/0
m/44'/0'/4'/0/0
m/44'/0'/5'/0/0
m/44'/0'
m/44'/0
m/44'/0'/0
m/44'/0'/0'
m/44'/0'/1'/1
m/44'/0/0
m/44'/0'/1'
m/44'/0'/2'
m/44'/0'/3'
m/44'/0'/4'
m/44'/0'/5'
m/44'/0'/0'/1
m/44'/0'/0'/2
m/44'/0'/0'/3
m/44'/0'/0'/4
m/44'/0'/0'/5
m/44'/0'/0'/1/1
m/44'/0'/0'/2/2
m/44'/0'/0'/3/3
m/44'/0'/0'/4/4
m/44'/0'/0'/5/5
m/44'/0'/0'/0/1
m/44'/0'/0'/0/2
m/44'/0'/0'/0/3
m/44'/0'/0'/0/4
m/44'/0'/0'/0/5
m/44'/0/0/0
m/44'/0/0/0/0
m/44'/0'/0'/0/0
m/44'/0'/1'
m/44'/0'/2'
m/44'/0'/3'
m/44'/0'/4'
m/44'/0'/5'
m/44'
m/84'/0'
m/84'/0
m/84'/0'/0
m/49'/0'
m/49'/0'/0'
m/49'/0'/0
m/49'/0'/0'/0
m/44'/0'/1'/0
m/44'/0'/2'/0
m/44'/0'/3'/0
m/44'/0'/4'/0
m/44'/0'/5'/0
m/44'/0'/1/0
m/44'/0'/2/0
m/44'/0'/3/0
m/44'/0'/1
m/44'/0'/2
m/44'/0'/3
m/44'/1
m/44'/2
m/44'/3
m/44'/0'/0'/1/0
m/44'/0'/0'/2/0
m/44'/0'/0'/3/0
m/44/0
m/44/0'
m/84'/0'/0'/0

The list lacks structure, I'm currently trying to contact BTCRecover dev to buy a script, that could automate that.

I also tried m/44'/0'/0'/0           m/44'/0'/0'/0/0       m/44'/0'/0'    m/44'/0/0        m/44'/0'     m/44'/0    m/44'/0'/0  with everything I could use as an extended word for seed phrase, just in case.

I have a flashback where I was changing h to ‘ next to number 44. So most probably the beginning is m/44’/
And I remember it had more than one ‘.

I would highly recommend to properly document anything that you might remember so that you're able to thoroughly explore and exhaust any detail in your search methodically.

Yeah, I did it this morning.

OP, you have a messy spelling with certain terms, especially with the word "phrase".

If BIP39 option is ticked and you have a spelling error in any of the recovery words, making that word not be in the BIP39 wordlist, Electrum will display "Unknown BIP39 wordlist" below the entry box and next to the "Options" button! But also in such a case, you can still proceed in Electrum to the next step. Watch carefully what is displayed next to "Options" button. You don't want to introduce more variables than necessary.

English is not my native language, I rarely speak it now, and even more rarely write in it. I'm also actively learning Spanish and "phrase" in Spanish is "frase". Regarding spelling in the seed phrase, all the words there were familiar, and Electrum shows hints, finishing your word. And also at that moment all I was caring about is to not mess the seed frase, thus missing out on everything else.