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August 03, 2025, 05:57:30 PM
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Seeing big companies buying billions+ dollars of bitcoin, isn't it becoming too centralized. Could they centralize it if they own a lot of it's portion.
How can we defend against this process?
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August 03, 2025, 06:14:07 PM
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Seeing big companies buying billions+ dollars of bitcoin, isn't it becoming too centralized. Could they centralize it if they own a lot of it's portion.
How can we defend against this process?
Based on the title of your post, miners are the ones keeping the network safe from 51% attack, they are keeping the network secured. They also validate transactions and create new blocks by solving the cryptographic puzzle. Currently, miners are not making bitcoin centralized, and I don't think that bitcoin will lose her decentralized nature in future. Only if the government start controlling mining pools to tell them which transaction that they add to the block chain or not.

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August 03, 2025, 07:36:59 PM
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Seeing big companies buying billions+ dollars of bitcoin, isn't it becoming too centralized. Could they centralize it if they own a lot of it's portion.
How can we defend against this process?
Bitcoin is a POW blockchain and not a POS blockchain. Buying any amount of Bitcoin never gives you any power. In a POS network this could be a problem, but here no.

Seeing big companies buying billions+ dollars of bitcoin, isn't it becoming too centralized. Could they centralize it if they own a lot of it's portion.
How can we defend against this process?
Based on the title of your post, miners are the ones keeping the network safe from 51% attack, they are keeping the network secured. They also validate transactions and create new blocks by solving the cryptographic puzzle. Currently, miners are not making bitcoin centralized, and I don't think that bitcoin will lose her decentralized nature in future. Only if the government start controlling mining pools to tell them which transaction that they add to the block chain or not.
Miners have an economic incentive to operate according to the rules of the network and ideals behind the network. There is a huge incentive to never do a 51% attack as one will have more profit by behaving correctly. Users hold the power of the Bitcoin network no matter what business people want to believe. Tomorrow all miners could be made bankrupt with an emergency fork. Which miner would want to risk that?


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August 03, 2025, 08:01:19 PM
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Seeing big companies buying billions+ dollars of bitcoin, isn't it becoming too centralized. Could they centralize it if they own a lot of it's portion.
How can we defend against this process?
No, Bitcoin is never going to be centralized.  Institutional investors who have the capacity to buy that much bitcoins can only manipulate the price of bitcoin with their massive buy/sell, but don't have that capacity to act as a central authority.

As for miners, they also are not in the position to make Bitcoin centralized. Miners have some crucial responsibilities they perform to keep the Bitcoin network going and it never contradicts the decentralized status of Bitcoin. You should read up more about miners to get clear knowledge of who they really are and what they do.

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More miners need to adopt the Ocean approach and their templating.
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August 03, 2025, 09:04:30 PM
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Owning a huge portion of bitcoins doesn't mean bitcoin can be centralized but owning huge amount of bitcoin can affect the price of bitcoin but never make bitcoin centralized at all. About miners, they are the ones who are responsible for making the 51% attack and continue making bitcoin network run. Who do you think validates each transactions on a block and mined a block?. If you make a research about miners then you will know how important they are.

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August 03, 2025, 09:33:25 PM
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Seeing big companies buying billions+ dollars of bitcoin, isn't it becoming too centralized. Could they centralize it if they own a lot of it's portion.
How can we defend against this process?

Your concept of centralized being miners and institutions buying a huge volume of the currency is presumably said to have some level of control over the currency? Is that it?
If that be it we might as well count Trump in somewhere, his tweets on X could also give an edge isn’t it…

Well, the cowboy would call all that horse sh!t. The market is not there for anyone to control and the volume you have doesn’t give any one an edge as per being able to manipulate the market. Flooding coins in the market might cause some shift but, the market always swallows it all.

Besides, whales and miners don’t determine the price of Bitcoin and so, how is that centralized.

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August 03, 2025, 09:35:09 PM
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There is nothing you can do about it, individually speaking. In theory, what should happen is that average people around the world purchased their own portion of Bitcoin, so many small portions of Bitcoin splitted among several different hands would bring balance to Bitcoin. However, in practice that is not how things work for real. Average people don't give any importance about Bitcoin, they don't care about finances, so only the wealthy ones become investors (and in large scale).

As consequence, Bitcoin remains more centralized than it should.

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Owning a lot of Bitcoin does not allow you centralize it and doesn't give you any form of control, but a good decentralization of holders is healthy for a decentralized currency.

If majority of the coins are among the hands of a few people that could give them a certain level of influence and a sell off could create panic among other holders. The only way to reduce this is by holding your bitcoins and not selling of easily for profits.

Mining centralization is a much bigger issue and could lead to transaction censoring if there is an incentive to do so. Regular holders can ot prevent this as it takes a big capital to start a mining rig to rival current pools.

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August 03, 2025, 09:59:10 PM
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Your concept of centralized being miners and institutions buying a huge volume of the currency is presumably said to have some level of control over the currency? Is that it?
If that be it we might as well count Trump in somewhere, his tweets on X could also give an edge isn’t it…
The impression that big institutions buying bulk amount of Bitcoin can lead to Bitcoin being centralized is just like talking about whale activities in the market, when few people have possession of a commodity in large quantities they can control the price of that commodity..
But yet again it is not only whales that can control the price of Bitcoin, the media, influential figures an example is the US president.
Yes the price can get controlled but I don't think they can make Bitcoin centralized because they have high numbers of Bitcoin.

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Seeing big companies buying billions+ dollars of bitcoin, isn't it becoming too centralized. Could they centralize it if they own a lot of it's portion.
How can we defend against this process?
In order to defend against that, we shouldn't let them to buy so many Bitcoins. I'll admit that I was against hodling and my priority was to spend Bitcoin as much as possible to help the network become active and more widespread but now, after so many governments and big institutions publicly state that they want to buy thousands of Bitcoins, I believe that it's time to hold our coins tight. We are the only ones who can stop them. If we, people, hold the most Bitcoins, then they will not have a great influence. People shouldn't panic when they announce something bad because they want to buy Bitcoin at a discount.

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August 03, 2025, 10:21:15 PM
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Miners and large institutions have no impact on Bitcoin’s decentralization, this aspect will never change, even if someone tries to manipulate the price.  In fact, more Bitcoin miners mean more computing power (hash rate) is dedicated to securing the Bitcoin network against a possible 51% attack.  The presence of miners from different locations further enhances decentralization.

Bitcoin will remain decentralized, and this will never change.
Because of its consensus mechanism, Bitcoin uses Proof of Work (PoW), meaning no single party controls decision-making unless it controls the majority of hashing power.
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It may not be centralized as many say, but I think it's detrimental to the ecosystem that it's concentrated in the hands of a few. Some kind of control could be exerted, I don't know, maybe it could just be a conspiracy theory. Bitcoin gaining more visibility is great, but it's not in the hands of the "people," as I believe it should be. Everyone should have easy access and use it in their daily lives, but with the price surpassing $100,000 (1 BTC), those with the most purchasing power are dominating the game.

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Seeing big companies buying billions+ dollars of bitcoin, isn't it becoming too centralized. Could they centralize it if they own a lot of it's portion.
How can we defend against this process?

The topic you raised is of a valid concern seeing the rapid growth coming from the institutional buyers and side of adoption,  but No, the institutional players won't make Bitcoin centralized because Bitcoin was programmed in such a way that it runs what we called an open source code.The are buying because of their realisation of how important and scarce that Bitcoin is and the fear of missing out, The more they buy Bitcoin the more they enrich the early adopters, Bitcoin is designed to suck up any amount of liquidity that comes in because of its limited supply. so worry not, it's not going to be an easy thing to centralized Bitcoin ecosystem.

 
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It is easy to worry that big companies buying much of Bitcoin will give them too much control but Bitcoin design actually prevents this. Because it is built on open source code and decentralized network no single person or institution can take over. Network is run by thousands of people worldwide so even major buyers must follow same rules as everyone else. Their buying actually proves how valuable Bitcoin is because they see its scarcity and security and their purchases help make entire network stronger. With fixed supply of only 21 million coins Bitcoin is made to handle all this new money without being owned by few people. Instead of these new players just become part of system.

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Seeing big companies buying billions+ dollars of bitcoin, isn't it becoming too centralized. Could they centralize it if they own a lot of it's portion.
How can we defend against this process?
Companies, individuals, the government and all can own billions upon billions of dollars in bitcoin, they can own the majority of the supply of bitcoin with which they can decide which direction the price of Bitcoin will go, this is market manipulation, but they can never be able to centralized bitcoin so long as they cant and do not have access to control what happens in the bitcoin blockchain.

We all have to know that the blockchain is the engine house that powers bitcoin, it is the foundation of bitcoin and who ever has access to this foundation automatically have gained access to bitcoin in its entirely, and like we all know, no one has access to this foundation, not even Satoshi himself.
Thing can only turn difficult if the government after owning majority of the bitcoin supply decides to take over the mining of bitcoin as well, this may affect transaction confirmation on the blockchain, but if we have so many miners in different parts of the world, the government still won't succeed in this area as well.

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You unfortunately can not defend against this.  No matter what you do, it will continue to be a problem.

Some people simply have money.  Too much, some may say.  Enough money to shake a Cryptocurrency market at the very least.  The best thing that can happen to Bitcoin is that the market cap increases significantly enough that it becomes way harder to control.  If Bitcoin is worth a few trillion Dollars, it becomes a much tougher and larger rock to counter.

On the other hand, I doubt some of the biggest players so far will quit by the time Bitcoin becomes so expensive and gigantic.  This gives them possibly even more power than they currently have.

Bitcoin was thought to offer a way to a more equitable wealth distribution.  In time, we have only been proved that there is no way the current very dirty and cunning financial system can be beaten up by Bitcoin.

 
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How can we defend against this process?

As retail investors, there is nothing we can do but adapt, regardless of what happens to Bitcoin. We have only two options, one is to adapt and accept all changes, and the other is to quietly leave the market.

However, I also don't see anyone worried or concerned about the issues you mentioned. I even see people being very excited and enthusiastic in supporting institutions and governments to buy and hold bitcoin. Because that would push the price of bitcoin even higher and that's what most investors are concerned about right now. Not many people care about decentralization as much as you think or as they say.

As long as bitcoin can help them make money and get rich, it doesn't matter whether bitcoin becomes centralized or not.

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You unfortunately can not defend against this.  No matter what you do, it will continue to be a problem.

Some people simply have money.  Too much, some may say.  Enough money to shake a Cryptocurrency market at the very least.  The best thing that can happen to Bitcoin is that the market cap increases significantly enough that it becomes way harder to control.  If Bitcoin is worth a few trillion Dollars, it becomes a much tougher and larger rock to counter.

On the other hand, I doubt some of the biggest players so far will quit by the time Bitcoin becomes so expensive and gigantic.  This gives them possibly even more power than they currently have.

Bitcoin was thought to offer a way to a more equitable wealth distribution.  In time, we have only been proved that there is no way the current very dirty and cunning financial system can be beaten up by Bitcoin.
Yes wealthy individuals and large companies can easily influence Bitcoin market causing big price changes. It is tough problem because market is not as big as traditional markets. You suggested that if Bitcoin total value grew to trillions of dollars it would be much harder for any one person to control  price. However you also made good point that same powerful people might get even more control if Bitcoin becomes that huge. This shows main problem with Bitcoin it was meant to be fair system for everyone but it still has to deal with  same powerful players who control old financial system. Because of this it is still very difficult to achieve fairer spread of wealth using Bitcoin.

 
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To be fair with the institutional buyings, that's just how it is. The more capital you got, you can own much more bitcoin than other people. That's why holding in self custody is recommended. You can help decentralize holders.

In regard of mining, the biggest hashrate owners is Foundry USA then AntPool with just half of ahshrate. Personally I have no problem since its still far from 51% attack. However if people can start doing mining as their side hobby, it can definitely help decentralization of hashrate.

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