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August 05, 2025, 01:32:40 PM
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I stumbled on AIO by OlaXBT during one of those long nights scrolling through charts, trying to make sense of a market that felt like it had lost its rhythm. At first, I assumed it was just another AI-token buzzword project—but the more I looked, the more it made sense. A platform that actually lets you build AI trading bots without coding? That’s the kind of tool I wish I had during my early trading days when emotions ran the show. Add in staking rewards up to 55% APY and real backing from firms like Amber Group, and suddenly, it didn’t feel like just another token—it felt like something built for people like me.

Now, don’t get me wrong the market’s still rocky, and skepticism is healthy. But watching AIO get listed on top tier exchanges and seeing how fast it's gaining traction reminds me of those rare moments when a project actually aligns with market needs. No wild promises, just tools that give you an edge. It’s still early, and there’s a lot to prove, but if you’ve ever wished for a smarter, calmer way to trade AIO might just be worth watching closely.
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August 05, 2025, 01:42:32 PM
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A platform that actually lets you build AI trading bots without coding?
Nothing new or special, plenty of platforms offer something similar like this.

Add in staking rewards up to 55% APY and real backing from firms like Amber Group, and suddenly, it didn’t feel like just another token—it felt like something built for people like me.
High APY is a red flag. You wrote this post with ChatGPT, and that shows how weak your conviction is for this random scam project.  Smiley
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August 05, 2025, 02:53:14 PM
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High APY is a red flag.
A 55% APY is indeed a very suspicious proposal. It's not feasible, neither sustainable. OP can be pretty sure this token is going to lose price quite fast due to supply being too much for the demand this project has in crypto market.

What calls attention and awakes interest from investors regards this project isn't its usage (concerning AI trading tools), but the financial return offered. Therefore, there is no doubt it's a speculative investment, which heavily relies on hype in order to succeed on short run, generating quick profit for developers and early investors solely.

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August 05, 2025, 07:57:14 PM
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Add in staking rewards up to 55% APY
That's high but this is lower compared to what I've seen that offers more than a hundred and even a thousand. But take note of it, whenever the demand keeps up and there are more stakers, that will decrease a lot. But with all of these projects, they're all the same currently. I don't see any stepping up for the most of the new projects. The older ones that have established itself are the ones that seems to be patronized by many investors. Many are still waiting for the altcoin season but if this one is doing good at the beginning, look at it once the alts rally and see if they will survive.

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August 05, 2025, 08:16:10 PM
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The same way we are to believe that not every token is a hype, we should also know it this way that most of the tokens created are for hypes.

Now here is the big challenge, which is how we can know which is for a hype and which is not, we are all just taking risk for what we can afford, if we see it as not possible, we may avoid the risk.

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August 06, 2025, 09:49:32 AM
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High APY is a red flag.
A 55% APY is indeed a very suspicious proposal. It's not feasible, neither sustainable. OP can be pretty sure this token is going to lose price quite fast due to supply being too much for the demand this project has in crypto market.

What calls attention and awakes interest from investors regards this project isn't its usage (concerning AI trading tools), but the financial return offered. Therefore, there is no doubt it's a speculative investment, which heavily relies on hype in order to succeed on short run, generating quick profit for developers and early investors solely.
Not really shocking, it's a newbie account, that is shilling some shitcoin, nothing more. It happens all the time, and one of the main reasons for it is that bitcointalk has high index level, which means, if you do SEO here, and shill here, then your SEO for your project will do great. Writing and linking back to your website would be even better, that would make you ranked better.

These are shitcoins that are so bad that you can literally google the name of the shitcoin and it may not appear, so they do these kind of work to appear and do better. They need shillers who they pay, to be seen, otherwise nobody knows who they are and what the yare doing. And because they do not have money, they can't do proper marketing, so they do these silly moves instead.

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August 06, 2025, 01:00:14 PM
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The problem with just actually working is that without any hype how is anyone going to stumble upon them and even if they do stumble upon them how likely are they to actually try them thus actually prove to themselves that they do in fact actually work? Smiley

I suspect that a huge fraction of coins and tokens that actually work don't actually make a huge percentage yearly return on investment for passive investors and that that works two ways relative to hype: lacking a ridiculously huge and unsustainable ROI makes them not so easy to hype and lacking hype makes them lack the kind of fast huge ROI that can be achieved by not being sustainable.

In the Galactic Milieu I think the highest rate of return we have achieved was General Financial Corp "shares", and it was accomplished by using "other people's money".

Basically the initial shareholders put in almost nothing (20 DeVCoins per share, one million shares) to form an in-game "Corp" of one million shares, then had that Corp borrow a massive amount of Martian BotCoin (MBC) from the Martians at a quarter percent a planet-Earth day, compounded hourly, which they then used to refinance, at half a percent per planet-Earth day compounded hourly, a whole bunch of intergalactic mining Corps whose initial startup loans had come from General Mining Corp (GMC) and General Retirement Funds (GRF) at one percent per planet-Earth day compounded hourly.

This meant that GFC eared hourly on the capital borrowed from the Martians simply by saving the Martians the bureaucratic overhead of adminstering lots of loans at higher rates, so the Martians only had the one Corp to deal with albeit at lower interest and also didn't have to run around beating the bushes as it were looking for and hunting down and pitching to debtors already paying even higher interest to GMC and GRF.

(Nowadays those debtors who didn't switch over were moved by GMC and GRF to GMC Financial (GMCF) and GRF Financial (GRFF) and ultimately ended up at the same interest rates as GMC and GRF responded to the loss of clients; and also of course some more Finance Corps also have sprung up to siphon off some of the clients.)

Check the thread linked above and you'll see that GFC has done very very well long term; as I write this post I see in the Latest Rates include-file that "shares" of GFC are currently valued at sGFCrate=5104041.82176833 DeVCoins...

GFC long long long ago fully paid-off their loan from the Martians so long long long ago ceased to themselves be in debt to anyone.

This success story is so good actually that nowadays GFC is seriously thinking about approaches to doing much the same over again, that is, they are thinking of starting a new startup to which they will make a huge loan at half the interest rate the new startup will charge its own eventual clients, because nowadays the yearly ROI of GFC itself is rather conservative, since it is nowadays reduced to earning interest on its own capital rather than "other people's"... So they expect a new startup to be able to show a better ROI than their own current ROI even if not as great as their own early-years ROI...


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August 07, 2025, 06:22:02 AM
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High APY is a red flag.
A 55% APY is indeed a very suspicious proposal. It's not feasible, neither sustainable. OP can be pretty sure this token is going to lose price quite fast due to supply being too much for the demand this project has in crypto market.

What calls attention and awakes interest from investors regards this project isn't its usage (concerning AI trading tools), but the financial return offered. Therefore, there is no doubt it's a speculative investment, which heavily relies on hype in order to succeed on short run, generating quick profit for developers and early investors solely.
55% APY probably just empty promise, maybe it's about staking the token and getting the same token as a reward but the volatility will negate the profit anyway.

The places where I see such high APY usually are when the project incentivize staking with the left over tokenomics and people already understand that it's nothing but an illusion since it means inflation of the token supply and people will short.
Other than that, could be a red flag.

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Inflating the token supply to cause the value per token to go ever downward is widely regarded as a good thing presumably, else why would every fiat out there (that I am aware of) do it?

Supposedly having your tokens rapidly lose value is an incentive to spend them, so it "stimulates the economy"; also it encourages "investing" the shit-tokens into hopefully less-shitty assets.

Also by making it cost forever more tokens per span of time to buy whatever air, water, food, shelter etc one's form requires for one's survival it provides pressure to increase one's earnings, as measured in the shit-tokens, constantly just to stay in place as it were in the "rat race".

Thus as that basic survival requirement of tokens per span of time forces the less-fortunate to allocate less of their shit-tokens to re-investment in shit-token-earning "investments" than the more-fortunate participants can afford to thusly re-invest there can exist some level of fortune at which and above which one can stay "afloat" for hopefully at least approximately a "lifetime" and even a level at which one can maybe even rise if only by snagging a bunch of what the less-fortunate are forced to part with by providing some of the survival necessities to them and/or maybe some stuff that is relatively "luxuries" to the not so unfortunate.

I guess the big question here is whether fiats are by any given reader of this thread considered to be among the tokens that "actually work"?


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High APY is a red flag.
A 55% APY is indeed a very suspicious proposal. It's not feasible, neither sustainable. OP can be pretty sure this token is going to lose price quite fast due to supply being too much for the demand this project has in crypto market.

What calls attention and awakes interest from investors regards this project isn't its usage (concerning AI trading tools), but the financial return offered. Therefore, there is no doubt it's a speculative investment, which heavily relies on hype in order to succeed on short run, generating quick profit for developers and early investors solely.

I remember a token that didn't go through a pre-sale or campaign; it was just listed on well-known crypto exchanges. In its first few months, the coin had a great flow in the crypto market.
I even bought some when the price was around $11, though it was just a small amount. Now it's around $348, so it's dropped by quite a bit so far.

The coin I'm referring to is none other than Tao. I'm still accumulating it because I believe there's a high chance it will reach $1000 in the current bull season.
And I know for sure that many people in the market have noticed this coin.

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Think about it, even warren buffet barely cracks above 20% on his career, when you think of that, something that says 55% is "guaranteed" tells you all you need to know. But lets take it for a second that it is what we are seeing today and lets say that it's doing fine, we should consider that even in that case we are not seeing how this could be different.

Because with high pay, it will create more tokens, to pay, and that will droop the price, and that means, while you have more tokens, that also means less dollar value. It's simple finance, I mean anyone who knows basics of economy will know that this will not work but for some reason shillers still try to convince people that high pay is something good, it is not, specially on unknown stuff.

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August 09, 2025, 05:23:44 PM
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High APY is a red flag.
A 55% APY is indeed a very suspicious proposal. It's not feasible, neither sustainable. OP can be pretty sure this token is going to lose price quite fast due to supply being too much for the demand this project has in crypto market.

What calls attention and awakes interest from investors regards this project isn't its usage (concerning AI trading tools), but the financial return offered. Therefore, there is no doubt it's a speculative investment, which heavily relies on hype in order to succeed on short run, generating quick profit for developers and early investors solely.
55% APY probably just empty promise, maybe it's about staking the token and getting the same token as a reward but the volatility will negate the profit anyway.

The places where I see such high APY usually are when the project incentivize staking with the left over tokenomics and people already understand that it's nothing but an illusion since it means inflation of the token supply and people will short.
Other than that, could be a red flag.
The advertised APY is always in the token or coin itself and never in the USD because that way they can guarantee it. But hey, who doesn't want to have APY 55% the first year. You start with 100 tokens worth $100 and end up with 155 tokens worth $2.  Cheesy All of these projects are scams.

Think about it, even warren buffet barely cracks above 20% on his career, when you think of that, something that says 55% is "guaranteed" tells you all you need to know. But lets take it for a second that it is what we are seeing today and lets say that it's doing fine, we should consider that even in that case we are not seeing how this could be different.

Because with high pay, it will create more tokens, to pay, and that will droop the price, and that means, while you have more tokens, that also means less dollar value. It's simple finance, I mean anyone who knows basics of economy will know that this will not work but for some reason shillers still try to convince people that high pay is something good, it is not, specially on unknown stuff.
The scam is often in the details. Yes they can guarantee this return, but that is why they never mention dollars. Print useless tokens freely.
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I feel like this post is just trying to hype up this project. OP mentioned getting listed on top-tier exchanges when in fact it’s only two CEX and one CEX.
HitBT is not a very popular exchange; other members mention red flags specifically the 55% APY, and if there’s even one red flag, people should be cautious investing in a project like this.

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I feel like this post is just trying to hype up this project. OP mentioned getting listed on top-tier exchanges when in fact it’s only two CEX and one CEX.
HitBT is not a very popular exchange; other members mention red flags specifically the 55% APY, and if there’s even one red flag, people should be cautious investing in a project like this.
Most posts about altcoins including major ones like Ethereum are just fake hype posts by bagholders. People need to be very cautious when dealing with altcoins. Some people are lucky winners and make good gains, but most people lose and they often lose hard.
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I feel like this post is just trying to hype up this project. OP mentioned getting listed on top-tier exchanges when in fact it’s only two CEX and one CEX.
HitBT is not a very popular exchange; other members mention red flags specifically the 55% APY, and if there’s even one red flag, people should be cautious investing in a project like this.
Even the coins mentioned by OP are not hyped at all; I have never heard of them, and they are not in the top 100 on CMC or Coingecko, so that is a very foolish claim that we often see from disorganized marketers.

However, I agree that other altcoins besides the ones mentioned by OP have significant benefits. For example, ETH, Solana, and Hyperliquid each have their own functions built on top of large networks. We can use the available infrastructure to bridge ourselves to a broader Web3 ecosystem. Isn’t that more beneficial than the worthless tokens he mentioned? LOL

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I stumbled on AIO by OlaXBT during one of those long nights scrolling through charts, trying to make sense of a market that felt like it had lost its rhythm. At first, I assumed it was just another AI-token buzzword project—but the more I looked, the more it made sense. A platform that actually lets you build AI trading bots without coding? That’s the kind of tool I wish I had during my early trading days when emotions ran the show. Add in staking rewards up to 55% APY and real backing from firms like Amber Group, and suddenly, it didn’t feel like just another token—it felt like something built for people like me.

Now, don’t get me wrong the market’s still rocky, and skepticism is healthy. But watching AIO get listed on top tier exchanges and seeing how fast it's gaining traction reminds me of those rare moments when a project actually aligns with market needs. No wild promises, just tools that give you an edge. It’s still early, and there’s a lot to prove, but if you’ve ever wished for a smarter, calmer way to trade AIO might just be worth watching closely.


55% APY is the first and foremost red flag to be considered here. I haven't seen any good project giving that kind of a staking yield.
Chances are there that it might turn out to be just another shit coin or a scam coin.
It would be best to monitor it for the time being and not directly invest in this.

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