Why mad people shouldn't be killed

[Loveday422]

Good day everyone the reasons be hide this discussion is the way mad people cluster around port Harcourt but the government can always gather them put them in one particular place and give them treatment till many of them gets better.but out government doesn't care about this people.

one of the most reasons, why they shouldn't be killed is that i have seen several mad people who mad and also got heal without treatment, assuming they killed them this person who regain his self would have been in a mess

[mich]

Good day everyone the reasons be hide this discussion is the way mad people cluster around port Harcourt but the government can always gather them put them in one particular place and give them treatment till many of them gets better.but out government doesn't care about this people.

one of the most reasons, why they shouldn't be killed is that i have seen several mad people who mad and also got heal without treatment, assuming they killed them this person who regain his self would have been in a mess

Well if someone is mad I do not think he does deserve death just for this. There is alot of people that are mad but they are born like that and can not do alot about it.
Yes they can take some medicine but not all people can pay for it. And alot of people do not have ability to get the medicine he needs. I do think if a mad person wants treatment then he should be able to get it.

[Loveday422]

Good day everyone the reasons be hide this discussion is the way mad people cluster around port Harcourt but the government can always gather them put them in one particular place and give them treatment till many of them gets better.but out government doesn't care about this people.

one of the most reasons, why they shouldn't be killed is that i have seen several mad people who mad and also got heal without treatment, assuming they killed them this person who regain his self would have been in a mess

Well if someone is mad I do not think he does deserve death just for this. There is alot of people that are mad but they are born like that and can not do alot about it.
Yes they can take some medicine but not all people can pay for it. And alot of people do not have ability to get the medicine he needs. I do think if a mad person wants treatment then he should be able to get it.

but come to think of it, the government has all it takes to keep this people in a particular place ,feed them ,the money is there but i don't know why they don't reason the same with others, like in outside country i dont think if their are mad people outside the environment ,this mad people make the normal people look somehow anytime we see them

it irritate people passing,they also make many places to be  dirty.

[YADAYADA]

There is nothing wrong with "being" a "mad person" or with just "being" anything in fact. Its is when the violent actions of a person cause injury or death to another person it then becomes an issue. There many "sane" people who commit homocide and violent assault also.

It is down to wheter this person is actually violent and a threat to public safety.

I recollect a case where a violent schzophrenic was held in the tank overnight with general population prisoners and over the course of the night the voices in his head convinced him that the weakest most defenceless prisoner in the holding cell with minor convictions was somehow responsible for an assault on his sister even though his sister was not in the cell and these voices convinced him the best course of action was to murder this defenceless prisoner while other prisoners stood back in horror and then defecate and urinate on him before putting his mattress over him and sleeping peacefully on top of him until the next morning. No alert or panic button was in the cell and no prisoner did anything as many criminals are under the illusion their is some form of dishonour in ratting out a fellow prisoner although common sense would tell a normal person that the best course of action would for prisoners to form a group and overwhelm the 6ft 5 schzophrenic monster with extreme prejudice until he was subdued however it appeared all these prisoners were first time offencedr apart from the one who commited the murder.

In an ideal world both the prison service and the murderer would have been punished ...ideally with the schizophrenic with the fantasy line of defence being given lethal injection  in order to attain proper justice for the victim and his family while the prison service personell would have been given mandatory prison sentences for wreckless endangerment to human life and the state pay out comoensation in the tune of millions of dollars however this did not happen. You see if there is no justice there can be no peace and this works BOTH ways whether you are to the left or the right of the political spectrum the majority of low IQ humans are these days.

[Mekie21]

Being mad is not one’s willingness, they might have been introduced to or taken substance that doesn’t sit well with their chemistry and must of have caused some temporary damages mentally or some other circumstances that must have caused their mental disorder, doesn’t mean with a good medical care they won’t come back sanity someday. It is well known that this mad fellow are sometimes dangerous to be close to but if kept in a confined area with a good medical checkup team to look after their well being and securities to make sure they don’t behave otherwise, there’ll be very low probability of any casualties.

[BADecker]

Why mad people shouldn't be killed


How do you determine if anybody is mad? And who makes the determination? After all, it might simply be a typo in the document that expresses being 'mad'. It really might have been 'made' and the 'e' was simply lost by accident. Changes the whole meaning of it, right?

[WhoYouCantKill]

Termination or rejection of those with mental illness is wrong and not seeing what the future holds.
These people need the care of those around them, outreach and treatment from the community, lots of them gets better or show signs of recovery with time and support. The community and government should raise programs and invest in mental health services, control stigmatization and make arrangements for safe places for taking care of these people and reintegration.

[Hydrogen]

The link between serial killers and head trauma

A recent study conducted by the University of Glasgow and published in the Journal of Violent and Aggressive Behaviour looked into the ‘Neurodevelopmental and psychosocial risk factors in serial killers and mass murderers'. It was the first-ever analysis of all available literature (books, journals, legal files, news reports, electronic documents) about serial killers and mass murderers.

‘Our findings tentatively indicate that these extreme forms of violence may be a result of a highly complex interaction of biological, psychological and sociological factors,’ the report reads. ‘Potentially, a significant proportion of mass or serial killers may have had neurodevelopmental disorders such as ASD (autism spectrum disorder) or head injury.’

Out of the 239 ‘eligible’ killers used in the study, 28% were found to have had ‘definite, highly probable or possible‘ ASD (to compare, 1 in 100 people in the UK have ASD), 21% had suffered a ‘definite or suspected’ head injury, whilst 55% of those with ASD and/or a head injury had experienced psychosocial stressors such as significant traumatic events during childhood (i.e. violent or sexual abuse, death of a close family member, parental divorce etc).

Dr Clare Allely from the Institute of Health and Wellbeing at the University of Glasgow led the study and explains the significance of these findings. ‘The report, which is the first of its kind to look at all the available material around serial and mass killers, identified that a complex interplay between neurodevelopmental problems and psychosocial factors are most likely to lead to incidences of this kind.’ The suggestion being that if this combination of characteristics is discovered within an individual, that person could be predisposed to developing into a serial killer. Having such knowledge could lead to preventative measures to help stop mass killings.

https://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/article/the-link-between-serial-killers-and-head-trauma

[franky1]

the insanity defence is a complex thing and shouldnt become normalised to use to escape a death sentence
for instance, some say they were temporarily insane. to not just avoid the death sentence, but also avoid long term treatment because their insanity was 'temporary'

as for those legally defined as insane as a more long term illness, if they have the capability to plan a murder, or even have the patience to find the opportunity and hold a weapon steadily and target someone. then they are not really insane as they have a higher level of cognition to calculate the method and intentions

a true insane defence is a complicated diagnoses whereby there has to be proper long term history of medical issues along with the murder itself being one of complete unpredictable unplanned randomness. EG just grabbed a random object and bam struck someone unprovoked with no warning or reason

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im all for the right treatments for people of true insanity, the right institution to monitor/rehab people for the right circumstance. but normal people dont kill, so killers by the very act of murder have atleast one screw loose but usually have enough sanity to perform the murder for it not be a case that they are exonerated of murder and instead just offered medical treatment

[Cryptohunterkill]

Being mad in some cases is not always permanent, they shouldn't be killed, instead let's try as much as possible to help them no matter the situation. They are still human beings. So with proper medication, I believe they will always improve with time

[Reatim]

Being mad in some cases is not always permanent, they shouldn't be killed, instead let's try as much as possible to help them no matter the situation. They are still human beings. So with proper medication, I believe they will always improve with time

even though they are mad they still have rights as human beings and this should not be taken away from them no matter what whether or not they improve, it’s inhumane to just end their lives

[lornadane]

Imo, killing someone because they’re mentally ill is just wrong. Mental illness isn’t a crime. Most cases need treatment, support, and proper care, not punishment. Society’s job is to protect people and help the vulnerable.