AI vs gambling platforms

[Kelward]

If we want to place bets and play against each other - we could simply ask an AI to build the backend, then generate a frontend, deploy it on a cheap (or even free) hosting service, and start playing directly with one another. No middlemen needed.

You realize that you're missing one thing, the money, and this is what no AI can create out of thin air?
If you play for fun you can play the one billion slots free games in Playstore, if you want to play with money, you have to find someone who is willing to take you on for and accept the losses if you win.

Also, lol at the free hosting service, seriously, stop!

You cannot overlook money when it comes to gambling, without it playing games on AI generated platforms will be no different than play stations. It won't be interesting if there's no chances of big wins because it will most likely be on p2p bets, winner takes the loser's money. What about security? Most posters here have expressed their concerns because anything that concerns money online attracts hackers. I think that we should let casinos run gambling sites because they have the manpower and capacity to operate casino businesses. And I don't expect anything that concerns serious money staking to be on a free hosting site.

[masulum]

From OP point of view, we are not meant to deposit inside the AI created software. His essence of bringing this idea is to avoid depositing into platforms, canceling the part of middlemen. Using the AI software don't cover all aspect that a licensed platform covers, we are limited to exciting games and benefits like bonuses and what will be the RTP in games.

Using P2P idea will work better for sports betting than casino games, no deposits just calculated odds.

Yes, I understand what the OP meant. What I meant was, if we're building a website for a gambling platform, it must accept deposits from users, right. When we accept deposits, the security of the user's balance must be completely secure. This isn't easy and can't be done simply by relying on AI code. Maintaining the security of user balances requires a secure program and must be handled by programmers with expertise in cybersecurity.

[Porfirii]

From OP point of view, we are not meant to deposit inside the AI created software. His essence of bringing this idea is to avoid depositing into platforms, canceling the part of middlemen. Using the AI software don't cover all aspect that a licensed platform covers, we are limited to exciting games and benefits like bonuses and what will be the RTP in games.

Using P2P idea will work better for sports betting than casino games, no deposits just calculated odds.

Yes, I understand what the OP meant. What I meant was, if we're building a website for a gambling platform, it must accept deposits from users, right. When we accept deposits, the security of the user's balance must be completely secure. This isn't easy and can't be done simply by relying on AI code. Maintaining the security of user balances requires a secure program and must be handled by programmers with expertise in cybersecurity.

I think that the idea you mentioned is the key when we talk about the real implementation of the tools, products or outcomes in general generated by AI which are too complicated to review them in full: someone has to take responsibility for the consequences of the potential bugs, errors, dysfunctions...

In the case of traditional casinos, their managers are fully liable, and the same happens with gambling platforms in the Internet (at least with the most reputable), but when you deposit your money somewhere created by an AI with no one to complain to, you have no guarantee in the event that something goes wrong.

[bubilas]

From OP point of view, we are not meant to deposit inside the AI created software. His essence of bringing this idea is to avoid depositing into platforms, canceling the part of middlemen. Using the AI software don't cover all aspect that a licensed platform covers, we are limited to exciting games and benefits like bonuses and what will be the RTP in games.

Using P2P idea will work better for sports betting than casino games, no deposits just calculated odds.

Yes, I understand what the OP meant. What I meant was, if we're building a website for a gambling platform, it must accept deposits from users, right. When we accept deposits, the security of the user's balance must be completely secure. This isn't easy and can't be done simply by relying on AI code. Maintaining the security of user balances requires a secure program and must be handled by programmers with expertise in cybersecurity.

Moreover, I want to say that it has now become clear that this version of the bot is very buggy. I don't know about technical advice, but it's better not to ask it psychological questions, because psychologists warn that AI can be dangerous for psychological health.
There are already many stories when people with unstable psyche communicated with AI and it simply answered them with its polite phrases. This is not a person who calls an ambulance or forcibly takes people to institutions to solve such problems. AI will simply continue to communicate, it's just a bot, and I believe that this technology still needs to develop for a long time to be reliable and safe.

[masulum]

I think that the idea you mentioned is the key when we talk about the real implementation of the tools, products or outcomes in general generated by AI which are too complicated to review them in full: someone has to take responsibility for the consequences of the potential bugs, errors, dysfunctions...

In the case of traditional casinos, their managers are fully liable, and the same happens with gambling platforms in the Internet (at least with the most reputable), but when you deposit your money somewhere created by an AI with no one to complain to, you have no guarantee in the event that something goes wrong.

That's the consequence of using AI to develop tools, there is no handler the code to maintenance any bugs and error. As I mentioned, I've used AI to build tools before, and it does work to build from the scratch. However, other security issues related to account security can't be relied on by AI. Because AI can't verify the security of a platform without knowing every file sent to it individually. Cybersecurity experts, on the other hand, can employ various approaches to security testing. It's also important to understand that deposits generally require key access, which requires caution. The key access could also be copied when requesting the AI to fix a code that isn't working properly.


Furthermore, using AI to develop a platform is limited by character limits and responses. If the code is long and requires more characters, it can be interrupted, or the code can change. They're making assumptions if the full initial code isn't sent. In my opinion, even if it can be completed, the code characteristics will change too. and, if they create database table names based on their own imagination, I don't think it's worth gambling on a platform with AI, even if the subscription is very cheap. Of course anyone can try it to create simple gambling game with AI, but not for real gambling.

Moreover, I want to say that it has now become clear that this version of the bot is very buggy. I don't know about technical advice, but it's better not to ask it psychological questions, because psychologists warn that AI can be dangerous for psychological health.
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We can't control AI to create code, they can change it at any time based on the results they generate. Sometimes, when a request is made to develop a new feature, the correct code is changed again and making we lost the previous code.

[stompix]

From OP point of view, we are not meant to deposit inside the AI created software. His essence of bringing this idea is to avoid depositing into platforms, canceling the part of middlemen. Using the AI software don't cover all aspect that a licensed platform covers, we are limited to exciting games and benefits like bonuses and what will be the RTP in games.

His idea is that you will get this AI programming everything, gathering data, resolving bets, managing all his money, it will be programmed and designed for free, it will run on some free hosting with 500MB of free space and 10 maximum connections and everyone will just love it and use is because, reasons!
If this vaporware of AI programming and doing miracles were even remotely true, the casinos would have already deployed it and fixed a ton of costs already, or you would have every kid in the neighborhood running his own casino, but, it doesn't work like that!

This is not different than a 10yo coming here and saying that he will use AI to create a better bitcoin!

[swogerino]

They say the newly unveiled GPT-5 was able to recreate the full codebase of Doom and Minecraft from a single prompt. Maybe not a perfect recreation, maybe just close analogs - but that’s not the point.

The real point is this:
If neural networks can create software that well, why are we still using other people’s platforms?

If we want to place bets and play against each other - we could simply ask an AI to build the backend, then generate a frontend, deploy it on a cheap (or even free) hosting service, and start playing directly with one another. No middlemen needed.

There are tons of gamblers here on the forum. Finding a player base shouldn’t be a problem.

All we need is someone to kickstart the idea - a spark, a driving force.

Anyone here up for it?

If AI has been able to reproduce that Doom or Minecraft game that well I think we should start thinking of a way as how to use this model to our own benefit when gambling in sports or even if possible to feed the model our slot patterns like how many spins we did without a bonus, how much money we lost so far and what to do next, this would be the real desirable use by anyone in the gambling community. Of course this is much easier said than done because casinos have much more budget than us gamblers so they can buy and train that model to counter what we ask it to do, this is something very new in general and so far the usage of AI by predicting sports have been miserable, I hope they improve it in this regard though I extremely doubt it, the people who program that thing do not care about gambling at all.

[TravelMug]

If we want to place bets and play against each other - we could simply ask an AI to build the backend, then generate a frontend, deploy it on a cheap (or even free) hosting service, and start playing directly with one another. No middlemen needed.

You realize that you're missing one thing, the money, and this is what no AI can create out of thin air?
If you play for fun you can play the one billion slots free games in Playstore, if you want to play with money, you have to find someone who is willing to take you on for and accept the losses if you win.

Also, lol at the free hosting service, seriously, stop!

You cannot overlook money when it comes to gambling, without it playing games on AI generated platforms will be no different than play stations. It won't be interesting if there's no chances of big wins because it will most likely be on p2p bets, winner takes the loser's money. What about security? Most posters here have expressed their concerns because anything that concerns money online attracts hackers. I think that we should let casinos run gambling sites because they have the manpower and capacity to operate casino businesses. And I don't expect anything that concerns serious money staking to be on a free hosting site.

I think that it's obvious that money is involved when creating this kind of gambling sites, its should be a given factor already. But perhaps what the OP meant is that it's very easy to create websites with the aid of AI.

And maybe later we will have to heard that casinos was created using this AI. But obviously, it's a business and so he will have to get some experts as well on how to roll it out and AI is not perfect. There could be loopholes and then we have to deploy it and then added security. So that's where the human touch might enter and it's not entirely up to AI. They can build it from scratch, but then again, in terms of management, there will still be us.

[YOSHIE]

AI vs gambling platforms

It is easy to talk about, although at this time Al is being assumed by many elements, but for me there is a place that should be placed on gambling platfroms, not all of them can be crowned in gambling platfroms of users in the game.

Like the GPT-5 regardless of all the advantages, of course GPT chat also has a risk and threat to the gamblers themselves and the danger to the user itself.

From the research revealed AI technology from GPT chat can cause problems and threats to gamblers themselves.
Example:

Hacking the user's personal data
AI technology from GPT chat can smooth crime by perpetrators of crimes to make a phishing email and dangerous codes, Until it can hack it on a much bigger scale. In fact, according to Elon Musk, AI technology such as GPT chat can be very dangerous for humans to exceed nuclear power.

Make malware
The technology in GPT chat that can make malware is very scary. However, not because the malware he made, but because the GPT chat can do it without stopping because AI never sleeps.

GPT chat can create and manipulate variations in the malware code, so that it is difficult to detect and stop. The mutation of the malware code is so fast, very dangerous to the security of the device.

Clearly, if the results of research on AI vs. technology Gambling has a risk, of course not interested.

[terrific]

If it's about a PVP platform, I don't think that there will be a lot of participants in there. We've got a lot of poker tables that are not filled with a lot of players.
I've also seen a lot of these kind of platforms that have been optimistic with the ideas and having a lot of games to play with other players but, they didn't thrived.
The idea is good and I don't think that there's a need for an AI to do all of these but, if it's about the creation of such platforms to connect us all gamblers with the games that we like to play. That's a good way to socialize but, like I've said, I've seen some good projects like that before but they didn't get the momentum.

[internetional]

Why dont you just use wheel of names and everyone place an ante, then spin the wheel and the name the wheel stops on wins the bet? Why does anyone need to build anything period.

Wheel of Names - is that the free online service where you enter a list of names and spin a virtual wheel to randomly pick a winner?

Can you actually place bets in Bitcoin there? And if so, is there any way to verify that the selection is truly random?

My whole idea was that gambling platforms can cheat their customers - and with neural networks, players could build everything themselves that used to be possible only on professional platforms.

That way, you don’t have to worry about being scammed. The same AI could even review the source code on request from any player.

[adaseb]

They say the newly unveiled GPT-5 was able to recreate the full codebase of Doom and Minecraft from a single prompt. Maybe not a perfect recreation, maybe just close analogs - but that’s not the point.

The real point is this:
If neural networks can create software that well, why are we still using other people’s platforms?

If we want to place bets and play against each other - we could simply ask an AI to build the backend, then generate a frontend, deploy it on a cheap (or even free) hosting service, and start playing directly with one another. No middlemen needed.

There are tons of gamblers here on the forum. Finding a player base shouldn’t be a problem.

All we need is someone to kickstart the idea - a spark, a driving force.

Anyone here up for it?

How you tried to use AI to code? You will see that it is far from perfect.

I took source code already created and I told AI to make a few changes and it rarely gets it correct the first time. You need to keep asking it to make changes back and forth. Sometimes it messes the code up completely and you need it to start from the beginning. And other times you need to switch to a different AI platform to get something done.

You can't expect AI to generate a working code in 5 minutes and upload it to some free site and expect it to work. It will be full of bugs and peoples funds will get stuck there or lost forever. Or it will be buggy and cheaters will emerg. I like you idea however to execute it properly is very difficult.

[alani123]

Why wouldn't a languge model NOT be able to re-create open source code?

There are so many projects on minecraft and/or doom that an AI model would have to be unable to copy paste if it couldn't replicate parts of it.

Anyway, AI is still lagging behind on many tasks but if something is impossible to be done statistically like winning in gambling all the time, neither human nor AI can do it.
So all this talk about AI this and that makes no sense when combined with gambling?

[Hispo]

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Anyway, AI is still lagging behind on many tasks but if something is impossible to be done statistically like winning in gambling all the time, neither human nor AI can do it.
So all this talk about AI this and that makes no sense when combined with gambling?

It makes sense, there are many people out there who still believe artificial intelligence could (somehow) give them advantage or some edge over other gamblers, but they don't realize AI is not magic. It works with publicly available information to perform it's predictions, so it can fail at the same rate of an well informe sport bettor.

I rather to see AI as a tool which can be used by casinos and bookies to enhance the overall experience given to gamblers, instead something used to gamblers to get money. I believe it is the right approach a point of view to have on this new technology within this industry.