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August 08, 2025, 11:13:48 AM
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They say the newly unveiled GPT-5 was able to recreate the full codebase of Doom and Minecraft from a single prompt. Maybe not a perfect recreation, maybe just close analogs - but that’s not the point.

The real point is this:
If neural networks can create software that well, why are we still using other people’s platforms?

If we want to place bets and play against each other - we could simply ask an AI to build the backend, then generate a frontend, deploy it on a cheap (or even free) hosting service, and start playing directly with one another. No middlemen needed.

There are tons of gamblers here on the forum. Finding a player base shouldn’t be a problem.

All we need is someone to kickstart the idea - a spark, a driving force.

Anyone here up for it?

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August 08, 2025, 11:18:04 AM
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Why dont you just use wheel of names and everyone place an ante, then spin the wheel and the name the wheel stops on wins the bet? Why does anyone need to build anything period.

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August 08, 2025, 11:22:17 AM
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there are tons of people gambling here, that's true, but compared to the betting sites we currently use, it's a drop in the ocean. how many people will regularly gamble on the site once it's set up? the number of people is a very important factor.

if something like this is tried and it has a structure specific to this forum, i would definitely participate. i am certain that the process will be transparent because even the slightest mistake in such an experiment would be noticed by the forum administrators.

additionally, how will the odds in this casino be determined? will there be a profit? if so, who will it go to? there are many questions.











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August 08, 2025, 11:26:34 AM
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If we want to place bets and play against each other - we could simply ask an AI to build the backend, then generate a frontend, deploy it on a cheap (or even free) hosting service, and start playing directly with one another. No middlemen needed.
Creating a reputable online casino is not an easy task like your post kind of makes it look like. Building an entire casino platform from scratch to finish with zero technical knowledge and at least a dev team in his going to be as careless as hell. You can't just put people's deposit at risk.
Casinos are not left out from cyber attacks. It's part of the reasons why a a good service that deals on funds should have a good cyber back up not just an AI generating codes.

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August 08, 2025, 11:31:01 AM
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If we want to place bets and play against each other - we could simply ask an AI to build the backend, then generate a frontend, deploy it on a cheap (or even free) hosting service, and start playing directly with one another. No middlemen needed.

You realize that you're missing one thing, the money, and this is what no AI can create out of thin air?
If you play for fun you can play the one billion slots free games in Playstore, if you want to play with money, you have to find someone who is willing to take you on for and accept the losses if you win.

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August 08, 2025, 11:35:23 AM
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Creating a reputable online casino is not an easy task like your post kind of makes it look like. Building an entire casino platform from scratch to finish with zero technical knowledge and at least a dev team in his going to be as careless as hell. You can't just put people's deposit at risk.
Casinos are not left out from cyber attacks. It's part of the reasons why a a good service that deals on funds should have a good cyber back up not just an AI generating codes.
If it is even possible with ease, I will prefer to gamble on reputed gambling sites as how it is on this forum than any P2P that can not be helpful. If they want better decentralized gambling site, maybe he can start a better decentralized Web3 gambling site instead which is the area some gambling sites are moving to but they are just still centralized.

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August 08, 2025, 11:45:46 AM
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Trust, convenience, liquidity and a lot of factors you've likely not considered will hinder the possibility of such idea coming to light even with the high number of gamblers that we have on the forum.

It's just like saying, since we have so many holders of bitcoin and other crypto on the forum, then there's no need of using an exchange for any form of transaction that we are doing. on the surface, tgag looks easy and pretty much possible but in reality, we all know how deficit it is to trust even the ones we have known for long on the forum. There's a lot of reputable gambling platforms on the forum with more constantly joining every now and then, to do away with them and opt for something that's likely not going to stand the test of time won't work.

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August 08, 2025, 11:51:13 AM
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Even when the AI is able to build the backend and frontend with as easy as a few prompts, but building a casino platform is not an easy matter, it requires a good understanding of security, payment system integration, RNG, marketing, etc. Not to mention that we need to maintain the platform, which means we need developers to ensure that the platform remains safe and not hacked. So it's not just a matter of building and playing with the hope that everything will be okay, it's a long-term commitment involving technical, legal and operational teams, and it doesn't come cheap.

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There are tons of gamblers here on the forum. Finding a player base shouldn’t be a problem.

All we need is someone to kickstart the idea - a spark, a driving force.

Anyone here up for it?

You forgot the most important feature of the casino which every gambler love which is the bonus and VIP system.

I like the idea of P2P betting without middleman but in exchange there will be no other incentive aside than removing the house edge on each bet which is just very minimal.

Bonus is what makes the casino attracts customers that’s why even centralized casino ask KYC people still choose it over decentralized casino due to bonuses and other rewards.



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August 08, 2025, 12:06:42 PM
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If we want to place bets and play against each other - we could simply ask an AI to build the backend, then generate a frontend, deploy it on a cheap (or even free) hosting service, and start playing directly with one another. No middlemen needed.

First I'll admit that I'm hearing this powerful AI GPT-5  in the first time. If it can really perform as described, I'd think it's going to be fun but it's just going to be a game feature that'll be played between closed friends and relatives. Or is the AI features going to make provisions where others from their anonymous and various places be able to visit and play along? If yes who's going to act as the house edge doing the funding to pay winners? Because where I see this game function able interesting is only for casual playing with the full node of game features that's up to your likeliness just within a cycle of familiar people which means there isn't going to be a room to gamble and earn those huge returns like the other casinos or gambling platforms that developers or owners are invested to make profits. Moreover this method of development can't be trusted because you either don't know the cons behind the AI via reliability.

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August 08, 2025, 12:07:03 PM
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Building a casino as we all know requires team members and I think anyone on a random could just start building a casino without any basic knowledge or ideas on how to code or program some certain things about gambling sites and of course human knowledge can not be compared with robots or any artificial intelligence that is being programmed by human. No matter what we do, to have such executes people still need to come together as team members or friends to build a casino with this, they should be able to raised funds on their own and build it to some certain level and also, the site is provably fair. We can't solely rely on AI because they can't assure of safety or how secure they could protect the site being created or generated by them if not of having some lapse of security and fairness.

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August 08, 2025, 12:09:08 PM
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I ask the opposite question to you, why would you not play on someone else's platform?  Smiley Instead of wasting human life and effort rebuilding things that work good, simply use existing platforms. There is no need for new ones as long as the existing ones operate well.
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August 08, 2025, 12:10:54 PM
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International buddy!. Have you thought about transparency in the platform. How deposits function and who have access to the wallet all the money goes into. You have to think about a lot of things first you know. Well, I remember designing a p2p betting platforms once, but the features works differently, not this way, I would explain more if it were just a two aside conversation.

Why dont you just use wheel of names and everyone place an ante, then spin the wheel and the name the wheel stops on wins the bet? Why does anyone need to build anything period.

I kind of buy his idea. With AI building the simple site he mentioned, it wont take time to do it, just simple prompt and in less than 10 minutes the site can be ready.

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August 08, 2025, 12:13:36 PM
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No matter how well you build something, if there’s no funding especially for marketing, it won’t succeed. Sure, with AI a lot of things are possible because of its coding capabilities, but that’s just a small piece of the puzzle. There’s a lot more involved. Even some casino owners with decent funding struggle without strong community support, and their projects still end up failing. So I don’t think the current setup will be disrupted anytime soon. Programs or platforms can be bought easily now, but getting the funds to actually make a casino popular that’s the hardest part TBH.

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I've been trying to create AI tools using prompts for both the front-end and back-end, and it's live now, you can check it out at signatools.net (ANN). I can't say it's perfect, even though it works, but the concern is whether we have the ability to properly maintain it or not. Because a gambling website requires security, and money will be deposited into the platform, AI alone isn't enough to make sure the security of the platfrom. It requires proper cyber security team, and it must be handled by professionals, not AI.

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All we need is someone to kickstart the idea - a spark, a driving force.

Anyone here up for it?

I used Claude and ask:

"Generate a Python Flask backend for a Texas Hold’em game with WebSocket support. Add a React frontend with betting UI. Deploy instructions for Fly.io".

Architectural Overview:



Backend implementation: https://claude.ai/public/artifacts/510a7181-1307-4a8a-b13c-5aecc1f93035

Step-by-Step Deployment Guide: https://claude.ai/public/artifacts/58f38fb2-4b07-4aa2-bac6-050ed9d57e5a

Code:
#!/bin/bash

echo "🎰 Texas Hold'em Poker Deployment Script"
echo "========================================"

# Check if flyctl is installed
if ! command -v flyctl &> /dev/null; then
    echo "❌ Fly CLI not found. Installing..."
    curl -L https://fly.io/install.sh | sh
    echo "✅ Fly CLI installed. Please restart your terminal and run this script again."
    exit 1
fi

# Check if logged in
if ! flyctl auth whoami &> /dev/null; then
    echo "🔐 Please log in to Fly.io:"
    flyctl auth login
fi

# Get app names from user
read -p "📝 Enter backend app name (e.g., poker-backend): " BACKEND_APP
read -p "📝 Enter frontend app name (e.g., poker-frontend): " FRONTEND_APP

# Deploy Backend
echo "🚀 Deploying backend..."
cd backend

# Create fly.toml with user's app name
cat > fly.toml << EOF
app = "$BACKEND_APP"
primary_region = "dfw"

[build]

[env]
  PORT = "8080"

[http_service]
  internal_port = 8080
  force_https = true
  auto_stop_machines = true
  auto_start_machines = true
  min_machines_running = 0

[[services]]
  http_checks = []
  internal_port = 8080
  processes = ["app"]
  protocol = "tcp"
  script_checks = []

  [services.concurrency]
    hard_limit = 25
    soft_limit = 20
    type = "connections"

  [[services.ports]]
    force_https = true
    handlers = ["http"]
    port = 80

  [[services.ports]]
    handlers = ["tls", "http"]
    port = 443

  [[services.tcp_checks]]
    grace_period = "1s"
    interval = "15s"
    restart_limit = 0
    timeout = "2s"
EOF

# Deploy backend
flyctl deploy --app $BACKEND_APP

# Set backend secrets
echo "🔑 Setting backend secrets..."
SECRET_KEY=$(openssl rand -hex 32)
flyctl secrets set SECRET_KEY=$SECRET_KEY --app $BACKEND_APP

BACKEND_URL="https://$BACKEND_APP.fly.dev"
echo "✅ Backend deployed at: $BACKEND_URL"

# Deploy Frontend
echo "🚀 Deploying frontend..."
cd ../frontend

# Create fly.toml with user's app name and backend URL
cat > fly.toml << EOF
app = "$FRONTEND_APP"
primary_region = "dfw"

[build]

[env]
  REACT_APP_BACKEND_URL = "$BACKEND_URL"

[http_service]
  internal_port = 80
  force_https = true
  auto_stop_machines = true
  auto_start_machines = true
  min_machines_running = 0

[[services]]
  http_checks = []
  internal_port = 80
  processes = ["app"]
  protocol = "tcp"
  script_checks = []

  [services.concurrency]
    hard_limit = 25
    soft_limit = 20
    type = "connections"

  [[services.ports]]
    force_https = true
    handlers = ["http"]
    port = 80

  [[services.ports]]
    handlers = ["tls", "http"]
    port = 443
EOF

# Deploy frontend
flyctl deploy --app $FRONTEND_APP

FRONTEND_URL="https://$FRONTEND_APP.fly.dev"

echo ""
echo "🎉 Deployment Complete!"
echo "======================"
echo "🖥️  Frontend: $FRONTEND_URL"
echo "⚙️  Backend:  $BACKEND_URL"
echo ""
echo "🎮 Your poker game is ready to play!"
echo "💡 Share the frontend URL with friends to join games"
echo ""
echo "📊 Useful commands:"
echo "   flyctl logs --app $BACKEND_APP   # View backend logs"
echo "   flyctl logs --app $FRONTEND_APP  # View frontend logs"
echo "   flyctl status --app $BACKEND_APP # Check backend status"
echo "

This is raw, maybe someone can take it from here. Or maybe ask Claude yourself and see how it goes.

Disclaimer: I'm no expert.

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August 08, 2025, 12:54:00 PM
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Why dont you just use wheel of names and everyone place an ante, then spin the wheel and the name the wheel stops on wins the bet? Why does anyone need to build anything period.
I kind of buy his idea. With AI building the simple site he mentioned, it wont take time to do it, just simple prompt and in less than 10 minutes the site can be ready.
I don't think you understood his post or point.

This is raw, maybe someone can take it from here. Or maybe ask Claude yourself and see how it goes.

Disclaimer: I'm no expert.
Why would anyone with a working brain risk their money with this?
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August 08, 2025, 01:20:30 PM
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The real point is this:
If neural networks can create software that well, why are we still using other people’s platforms?

If we want to place bets and play against each other - we could simply ask an AI to build the backend, then generate a frontend, deploy it on a cheap (or even free) hosting service, and start playing directly with one another. No middlemen needed.

The problem is who will manage everything, including the domain and hosting, in the event of bugs and attacks, and who will take the time to address all issues.

Who will take the blame for errors if there are no middlemen to address all the issues?
We have a saying: “Don’t fix it if it ain’t broken.” Is the casino industry broken enough for us to create this idea? Since players are unfamiliar with the setup, I doubt they will buy this idea.

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August 08, 2025, 01:27:25 PM
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I can't say it's perfect, even though it works, but the concern is whether we have the ability to properly maintain it or not. Because a gambling website requires security, and money will be deposited into the platform, AI alone isn't enough to make sure the security of the platfrom. It requires proper cyber security team, and it must be handled by professionals, not AI.
From OP point of view, we are not meant to deposit inside the AI created software. His essence of bringing this idea is to avoid depositing into platforms, canceling the part of middlemen. Using the AI software don't cover all aspect that a licensed platform covers, we are limited to exciting games and benefits like bonuses and what will be the RTP in games.

Using P2P idea will work better for sports betting than casino games, no deposits just calculated odds.



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August 08, 2025, 02:19:42 PM
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If we want to place bets and play against each other - we could simply ask an AI to build the backend, then generate a frontend, deploy it on a cheap (or even free) hosting service, and start playing directly with one another. No middlemen needed.

Anyone here up for it?

I wasn't interested even though it sounded interesting. Of course it's something extraordinary. Never mind. I think the security of a gambling site should be extra and I also think nothing is really good if it's free.
The AI only acts according to orders. The management and supervision process will not necessarily be perfect if it only relies on AI.

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