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August 14, 2025, 01:41:53 PM
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As far as I know, the military are one disciplined and coordinated group of people. The military environment is so coordinated with every activity well scheduled. The soldiers will only have time to gamble when they are free to gamble. It is not like they'll will spend every minute of their time everyday gambling. Moreover, the money they would win is not for themselves as gamblers. The chances of addiction are very low.

As far as you know... I guess you still have a lot to learn.

Those poor guys in military uniforms (been there, done that...) are nothing but ordinary young people trapped in some ideology. And they sacrifice themselves for what? I know the answer, so I will let you to think about it...

I don't know if this is true or not, but if gambling is possible while serving the country, it's like stealing money from those guys who serve. Think about it... You can't go out when you want, you don't have any girls near you, so you don't fuck, you don't feel love... so what will you do? Hey, you can gamble your hard-earned money in "our casino". Great idea for that government! Now they have a lot of desperate people who need money and they are ready to do anything you want from them... Craaazy!
I have only stayed in a military environment for about 3 weeks. Although there were no gambling facilities there, but I saw the level of coordination in the soldiers. 3 weeks is quite a short time to know alot, that's why I am agreeing with you that I still have alot to learn about the military.

My stance on this issue of soldiers gambling in camp or barracks as it may be called is beginning to change. Especially on the fact that these soldiers will be gambling with their own money, bear the losses alone and not be able to claim the profits from winning. I have seen these gambling from the angle of entertainment for the soldiers, but now I am beginning to get a clearer picture of the whole situation...and yea you are right, that's stealing. But the soldiers still have the choice to make, if they want to gamble or not.

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August 14, 2025, 01:50:20 PM
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My stance on this issue of soldiers gambling in camp or barracks as it may be called is beginning to change. Especially on the fact that these soldiers will be gambling with their own money, bear the losses alone and not be able to claim the profits from winning. I have seen these gambling from the angle of entertainment for the soldiers, but now I am beginning to get a clearer picture of the whole situation...and yea you are right, that's stealing. But the soldiers still have the choice to make, if they want to gamble or not.
If the money generated from gaming soldiers is used to support their wards and family in the barracks or improve facilities and artilleries it won't considered a complete waste for the heads in charge of the business. The soldiers lose money directly while the military win indirectly. They could support themselves this way, if things get well organized and coordinated regarding the organisers. Also, the soldiers should be made aware of the harsh effect of addiction .

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August 14, 2025, 02:01:14 PM
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My stance on this issue of soldiers gambling in camp or barracks as it may be called is beginning to change. Especially on the fact that these soldiers will be gambling with their own money, bear the losses alone and not be able to claim the profits from winning. I have seen these gambling from the angle of entertainment for the soldiers, but now I am beginning to get a clearer picture of the whole situation...and yea you are right, that's stealing. But the soldiers still have the choice to make, if they want to gamble or not.
If the money generated from gaming soldiers is used to support their wards and family in the barracks or improve facilities and artilleries it won't considered a complete waste for the heads in charge of the business. The soldiers lose money directly while the military win indirectly. They could support themselves this way, if things get well organized and coordinated regarding the organisers. Also, the soldiers should be made aware of the harsh effect of addiction .
The soldiers have already done enough by  risking their lives to protect the nation. It is the duty of the nation whom they protect to provide all that is neccessary to ensure peace and order. Encouraging these same soldiers to gamble with their own money just to provide what the government is supposed to provide effortlessly is stealing in disguise. In some sane countries, all or part of the income of certain soldiers are even exempted from tax as a form of compensation or motivation for what they do. You can imagine a soldier gambling and paying tax at the same time.

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August 14, 2025, 02:09:01 PM
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If the money generated from gaming soldiers is used to support their wards and family in the barracks or improve facilities and artilleries it won't considered a complete waste for the heads in charge of the business. The soldiers lose money directly while the military win indirectly. They could support themselves this way, if things get well organized and coordinated regarding the organisers. Also, the soldiers should be made aware of the harsh effect of addiction .

The war in Ukraine has been going on for 3.5 years, and during this time there have been several reports stating that the military are the primary group of people losing money in online casinos. Especially in the first year of the war, they were receiving relatively large payments for being on the front line, and most of those payouts were lost through gambling. So this is an extremely common problem among soldiers, particularly during a time that is far from peaceful.

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August 14, 2025, 02:43:39 PM
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If the money generated from gaming soldiers is used to support their wards and family in the barracks or improve facilities and artilleries it won't considered a complete waste for the heads in charge of the business. The soldiers lose money directly while the military win indirectly. They could support themselves this way, if things get well organized and coordinated regarding the organisers. Also, the soldiers should be made aware of the harsh effect of addiction .

Oh God, i don't know that, i just know that becoming a slave to a game because it's about money is very easy.
The only money you can earn is the money you earn through hard work, this is what my father and grandfather always said.
i am a good person and i think that's what to do

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August 14, 2025, 04:03:49 PM
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did you know that there are slot machines in american military bases all over the world? you will not be finding a full blown casinos in there but these machines offer enough entertainment to their soldiers i believe.
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What most catches my attention about his fact on gambling within the USA military abroad is how they manage to keep gambling machines in countries like Japan, where gambling and casinos are banned nationwide. It only shows the favourable treatment the government of the United States has in order to keep their soldiers comfortable.
I don't think it is necessarily a bad think, honestly; specially because the money the USA army makes with those slots machines go back to the budget of the military, so it goes to the military personel and their upkeep.

Also, the USA army has other programs to keep their personnel mentally and physically fit for service, it is not all about gambling, they have also ways to access to religious programs, books, among other things.

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August 14, 2025, 05:47:03 PM
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did you know that there are slot machines in american military bases all over the world? you will not be finding a full blown casinos in there but these machines offer enough entertainment to their soldiers i believe.

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the profit made using these machines is used by the military for their own programs so the money just goes back to them but it raises a few questions. first of all, how ethical it is to put slot machines in an environment where the tension, risk and stress are high? these soldiers undergo intense mental training trying to fight off traumatic experiences and loneliness away from their families and home. are these machines making them a lot more vulnerable to addiction?
Soldier are humans and they too deserves fun time and entertainment to boost their morale. That they are soldiers doesn't mean that they shouldn't enjoy the good things that life can offer. If those soldiers can gamble responsibly I don't see any problems with them gambling. Gambling is for everyone, and you can only get addicted if you allow yourself.

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second, if a soldier is a gambling addict does this make him unfit to serve in the military anymore? we know that addiction no matter where can make someone illogical and make him do things that he would otherwise never do. i am aware that these machines can cure their boredom but is it the best hobby to provide for their brave soldiers? what do you think?
That a soldier is a gambling addict doesn't meke him unfit to serve in the military. If that is true the military wouldn't have allowed their personnel to gamble in the first place. Knowing fully well that they risk being addicted. It's just like saying that if a soldier is a drunkard that he shouldn't serve in the military. As long as the gambling addiction doesn't prevent the soldier to discharge their duties they can continue in their service.

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are these machines making them a lot more vulnerable to addiction?
The machines are deliberately provided for entertainment. Anyone can become addicted to gambling, including soldiers. However, gamblers can become addicted for various reasons. If soldiers can control themselves in gambling, then wouldn't gambling just become entertainment for those who are far from family and public entertainment in the city?
Whether it is ethical or not depends on the perspective we view it from. I am also sure that soldiers may not have much time to keep playing the gambling machines provided. They have a time agenda that must be done routinely and with discipline.

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My stance on this issue of soldiers gambling in camp or barracks as it may be called is beginning to change. Especially on the fact that these soldiers will be gambling with their own money, bear the losses alone and not be able to claim the profits from winning. I have seen these gambling from the angle of entertainment for the soldiers, but now I am beginning to get a clearer picture of the whole situation...and yea you are right, that's stealing. But the soldiers still have the choice to make, if they want to gamble or not.
If the money generated from gaming soldiers is used to support their wards and family in the barracks or improve facilities and artilleries it won't considered a complete waste for the heads in charge of the business. The soldiers lose money directly while the military win indirectly. They could support themselves this way, if things get well organized and coordinated regarding the organisers. Also, the soldiers should be made aware of the harsh effect of addiction .
You only live once and life is short. Let the soldiers gamble and have fun because who knows if they wouldn't survive the next battle that they will go to. However, there should be caution in everything so that the soldiers don't get addicted.

Gambling can be done anywhere as long as humans are living in the place be it in the desert or forest because it keeps body and soul together. Don't forget that gamble ease you from stress. Going to the battle field isn't easy, there will be a lot of thoughts running in the soldiers minds. Gambling can be of help.

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second, if a soldier is a gambling addict does this make him unfit to serve in the military anymore? we know that addiction no matter where can make someone illogical and make him do things that he would otherwise never do.
The truth of the fact is that the chances of a serving military personnel becoming a gambling addict is really rare, due to the fact that they are always engaged 24hrs on duty working or been within the presence of a senior officer. While secondly, regarding if does a gambling addiction makes a soldier fit or unfit to be in the military. I can boldly say that inasmuch his/her gambling addiction does not affect his mental, physical and psychological well-being. Then he is totally fit to still continue to be in the military.


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i am aware that these machines can cure their boredom but is it the best hobby to provide for their brave soldiers? what do you think?
And not only the best hobby could these slot machines be to the soldiers, but also a means of earning extra income for those who could be lucky enough to win while gambling.

 
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are these machines making them a lot more vulnerable to addiction?
The machines are deliberately provided for entertainment. Anyone can become addicted to gambling, including soldiers. However, gamblers can become addicted for various reasons. If soldiers can control themselves in gambling, then wouldn't gambling just become entertainment for those who are far from family and public entertainment in the city?
Whether it is ethical or not depends on the perspective we view it from. I am also sure that soldiers may not have much time to keep playing the gambling machines provided. They have a time agenda that must be done routinely and with discipline.
They are different between soldiers who civilians who gambles with job, soldiers has already secured employment opportunity and they can control to be addicted in gambling than someone who is not working.
Most of the people who is addicted in the gambling, they're addicted in gambling because they seems gambling as a means of getting money and even though they lose today in the gambling they will still hope that they're going to win in next day, many things is involved on it. So soldiers can easily control themselves in gambling because their salaries is accountable to their family, why someone who has no job is interested to win to make money

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i am aware that these machines can cure their boredom but is it the best hobby to provide for their brave soldiers? what do you think?
And not only the best hobby could these slot machines be to the soldiers, but also a means of earning extra income for those who could be lucky enough to win while gambling.
Maybe have been thinking about using gambling as an extra income until that extra thought they have for it is taking all that they've worked hard for.
While I admire this program for the soldiers and they're cared for and so there are machines that are near to them.
There's a likelihood that there are also psychological tests and enhancements done on them so that they're not going to fall into addiction.
It's what everyone thinking of it when they're allowed to do that while they're having some fun and rest.


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second, if a soldier is a gambling addict does this make him unfit to serve in the military anymore? we know that addiction no matter where can make someone illogical and make him do things that he would otherwise never do.
The truth of the fact is that the chances of a serving military personnel becoming a gambling addict is really rare, due to the fact that they are always engaged 24hrs on duty working or been within the presence of a senior officer. While secondly, regarding if does a gambling addiction makes a soldier fit or unfit to be in the military. I can boldly say that inasmuch his/her gambling addiction does not affect his mental, physical and psychological well-being. Then he is totally fit to still continue to be in the military.
If we say a soldier is addicted and he can still go about his usual routine as a soldier, then he is not really addicted. Addiction is a big distraction. It takes away time, money and attention. Any soldier who gets addicted on duty will easily be noticed by others due to his recent behaviour. Although just as you have stated, it will be rare to see an addicted soldier since they are always busy with their time doing one thing or the other.

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I believe solders don't gamble while they are on duty, the only solders that gamble are the ones who are off from duty at that moment. Gambling is a form of entertainment and they already know that. I think that's one of the things that keeps them busy most of the time. Any solder that's on duty and gambling at the same time will be punished if cought and I actually believe that because of how disciplined and respectful they're, they will gamble responsibly so as yo avoid being addicted to the the game.

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August 14, 2025, 08:33:05 PM
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They are different between soldiers who civilians who gambles with job, soldiers has already secured employment opportunity and they can control to be addicted in gambling than someone who is not working.
Most of the people who is addicted in the gambling, they're addicted in gambling because they seems gambling as a means of getting money and even though they lose today in the gambling they will still hope that they're going to win in next day, many things is involved on it. So soldiers can easily control themselves in gambling because their salaries is accountable to their family, why someone who has no job is interested to win to make money
I have to be agreed with partially because usually addiction mean greediness or chase for loses which always encourage peoples, but those are having jobs and stable things around them never run for these chances are high for them to stay calm and wait for right time.
Peoples those are having no stability things always keeps them on addiction because their thoughts always divert them for increase of profit through gambling which is never been ideal situation peoples those can control their emotions always have better mindset, and they can fight against this addiction.
Army peoples are had strong mentality and stable life just because of these chances are not high for them to have addiction but still its big gamble having slots machines in army areas.

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August 14, 2025, 09:36:37 PM
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Since those machines are placed on military areas, it must have a positive effect over the soldiers. We know it's an environment where there are high levels of tension and stress, but keep in mind the cause of such emotions are others than gambling. Therefore, gambling may help reverting such emotions, as soldiers can find relief on this practice for a while, forgetting the tension and pressure felt due to their duty along the day.

It works like a temporary escape from the daily burden, just like we do in our daily routine through different means, after the work or studies are over for the day. For the same reasons, gambling is also allowed inside prisons, through cards games, for an example. That was the method security forces found to keep prisioners calm and under control, decreasing chances of rebellion.

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August 17, 2025, 04:54:13 AM
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My stance on this issue of soldiers gambling in camp or barracks as it may be called is beginning to change. Especially on the fact that these soldiers will be gambling with their own money, bear the losses alone and not be able to claim the profits from winning. I have seen these gambling from the angle of entertainment for the soldiers, but now I am beginning to get a clearer picture of the whole situation...and yea you are right, that's stealing. But the soldiers still have the choice to make, if they want to gamble or not.
If the money generated from gaming soldiers is used to support their wards and family in the barracks or improve facilities and artilleries it won't considered a complete waste for the heads in charge of the business. The soldiers lose money directly while the military win indirectly. They could support themselves this way, if things get well organized and coordinated regarding the organisers. Also, the soldiers should be made aware of the harsh effect of addiction .
let us hope that all revenue actually goes for the betterment of their facilities and their services or training and not towards the pockets of the generals or those in power then that would really be the waste because we know that we can't eliminate corruption completely even from the military

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My stance on this issue of soldiers gambling in camp or barracks as it may be called is beginning to change. Especially on the fact that these soldiers will be gambling with their own money, bear the losses alone and not be able to claim the profits from winning. I have seen these gambling from the angle of entertainment for the soldiers, but now I am beginning to get a clearer picture of the whole situation...and yea you are right, that's stealing. But the soldiers still have the choice to make, if they want to gamble or not.
If the money generated from gaming soldiers is used to support their wards and family in the barracks or improve facilities and artilleries it won't considered a complete waste for the heads in charge of the business. The soldiers lose money directly while the military win indirectly. They could support themselves this way, if things get well organized and coordinated regarding the organisers. Also, the soldiers should be made aware of the harsh effect of addiction .
let us hope that all revenue actually goes for the betterment of their facilities and their services or training and not towards the pockets of the generals or those in power then that would really be the waste because we know that we can't eliminate corruption completely even from the military

If US is a 3rd world country, then I might think that there is corruption and someone is pocketing big with this kind of program. Not defending the US, but it's a totally different country and for sure there is accountability here. Just imagine a General was found guilty, he might be strip of his privilege and lost everything, including his face. And we all know that military men protect their reputation as it's very hard for them to get it and be respected by his peers. So I think there could be no corruption here and everything goes back to men in uniform who really needs help specially after going back to their home after the war.

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August 17, 2025, 05:07:06 AM
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did you know that there are slot machines in american military bases all over the world? you will not be finding a full blown casinos in there but these machines offer enough entertainment to their soldiers i believe.
This is the first time I’ve heard about this, and I must admit, it surprised me.

the profit made using these machines is used by the military for their own programs so the money just goes back to them but it raises a few questions. first of all, how ethical it is to put slot machines in an environment where the tension, risk and stress are high? these soldiers undergo intense mental training trying to fight off traumatic experiences and loneliness away from their families and home. are these machines making them a lot more vulnerable to addiction?
Well, now everything becomes clear. Why do military personnel need salaries if the state already provides them with everything. Smiley Let them return their salaries back to their native government through slot machines. Smiley As a result, it turns out that military personnel work "for free". A brilliant solution.

Ethical or not, the main thing is profit. Smiley

second, if a soldier is a gambling addict does this make him unfit to serve in the military anymore? we know that addiction no matter where can make someone illogical and make him do things that he would otherwise never do. i am aware that these machines can cure their boredom but is it the best hobby to provide for their brave soldiers? what do you think?
A soldier with a gambling addiction is cheaper for the government, and will also carry out any orders, because he always needs money. An ideal universal soldier, right?

If the government really cared about the boredom of soldiers, it would buy Xbox or PS5, not slot machines.

Where there are slot machines (gambling) - there is business (profit).

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let us hope that all revenue actually goes for the betterment of their facilities and their services or training and not towards the pockets of the generals or those in power then that would really be the waste because we know that we can't eliminate corruption completely even from the military
Corruption exist in every country even in the US. But I guess the rate of corruption in the US is low. The accounts of these gambling platforms would be constantly audited yo check ho the revenue is been used. But in countries like mine, the money will be syphoned by top government and military official. The account auditors will be bribed and they will issue an unfair financial report. However, let's hope that the goals of setting up this gaming services will be achieved.

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