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August 11, 2025, 07:31:02 AM
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Guys, don't you feel like crypto companies, which comply with governments, actually betray the values of cryptocurrencies and cryptoanarchy? How can this be restored?

I believe we should support initiatives and projects that go against the state's policies.

For example:
1. Insurance against the state. Creation of mutual aid funds for people persecuted by the state.
2. Development of network states. Land tokenization platforms for capturing territories from existing states. You tokenize land first, sell it, then you hire PMCs, which capture this land from the existing states.
3. Unlicensed cryptocurrency exchanges - no AML, no KYC.
4. What happened to Uber? The original idea was that anyone with a car could make money. And what now? Drivers have to get licensed to work for Uber! This significantly increases prices for end customers! A new Uber is needed for drivers to use without any limitations.

What is going on with cryptoanarchy, which was supposed to save the world from governments? Where are Telegram, Nostr, Keybase, and other cryptoanarchy communities? Can you name them? Where are the cryptoanarchy venture funds?  



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August 11, 2025, 10:41:10 AM
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As long as you live in a country, you are bound to obey the law of the land. The government of that particular nation controls the military, the internet, and other areas. There is nothing much that can be done because you can't fight the government that makes, interprets and enforces the law.

The best we can do is to support crypto-friendly politicians and lobby lawmakers to make laws that give the sector more freedom. I also doubt if these measures will be effective because Bitcoin stands for decentralization, while the government is a proponent of centralization.    

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August 12, 2025, 02:26:20 PM
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I have been working on a certification organization. Part of the mission of that is to note the social standing of an organization for determining whether to do business or partner with them in some way. I think this is a step toward the kind of goals you have here and hope to share a business plan soon that seems to overlap with some of your goals. Cryptocurrency groups could be evaluated and certified in certain ways by the certification business. Good standing could involve avoiding government financial privacy violations that would tend to be at the root of some of the problems you've mentioned with government obstructionism in cryptocurrency markets.

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August 14, 2025, 08:37:37 AM
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As long as you live in a country, you are bound to obey the law of the land. The government of that particular nation controls the military, the internet, and other areas. There is nothing much that can be done because you can't fight the government that makes, interprets and enforces the law.

The best we can do is to support crypto-friendly politicians and lobby lawmakers to make laws that give the sector more freedom. I also doubt if these measures will be effective because Bitcoin stands for decentralization, while the government is a proponent of centralization.    

One can support creation of the new countries!

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August 14, 2025, 10:11:57 AM
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As long as you live in a country, you are bound to obey the law of the land. The government of that particular nation controls the military, the internet, and other areas. There is nothing much that can be done because you can't fight the government that makes, interprets and enforces the law.

The best we can do is to support crypto-friendly politicians and lobby lawmakers to make laws that give the sector more freedom. I also doubt if these measures will be effective because Bitcoin stands for decentralization, while the government is a proponent of centralization.    

One can support creation of the new countries!

So... Keeping in mind all the land of the planet has been already divided, you are either calling for insurrection within one'a country or invasion or other countries, which obviously can carry serious consequences, including serious prison time or death penalty, depending on the jurisdiction.
The reality is, as long as one belongs to a state and as long one holds citizenship of a state, any actions which are considered to be against the interest of the established power will be met with prosecution.
Only the simple fact of being a user of a non KYC/AML exchange and having a big enough volume would be enough to be placed in a black list by most powerful western administrations.

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August 15, 2025, 12:37:41 PM
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As long as you live in a country, you are bound to obey the law of the land. The government of that particular nation controls the military, the internet, and other areas. There is nothing much that can be done because you can't fight the government that makes, interprets and enforces the law.

The best we can do is to support crypto-friendly politicians and lobby lawmakers to make laws that give the sector more freedom. I also doubt if these measures will be effective because Bitcoin stands for decentralization, while the government is a proponent of centralization.    

One can support creation of the new countries!

So... Keeping in mind all the land of the planet has been already divided, you are either calling for insurrection within one'a country or invasion or other countries, which obviously can carry serious consequences, including serious prison time or death penalty, depending on the jurisdiction.
The reality is, as long as one belongs to a state and as long one holds citizenship of a state, any actions which are considered to be against the interest of the established power will be met with prosecution.
Only the simple fact of being a user of a non KYC/AML exchange and having a big enough volume would be enough to be placed in a black list by most powerful western administrations.
False. Firstly, a country does not have to be assigned to specific borders, that is a subjective social definition you've adopted to describe a country. Secondly, even if a country does need to be assigned to specific borders, one can withdraw land from the country in which it is situated, then start from scratch. Thirdly, countries may and have abandon land leaving it unclaimed. This happened to Liberland. Both countries nearby became jealous and tried to use nasty violence in typical false government fashion rather than respecting other people's basic human rights, reflecting the kind of attitude you allude to, that new countries shouldn't be allowed or the people doing that should be violently assaulted. Fourthly, countries can surely be formed by creating new land in international waters. Fifthly, new countries can be formed in any floating structure on international waters. Sixthly, new countries can be formed in replacement or addition to most Republics by a constitutional amendment to do so. There are likely other ideas I have not thought of as ways to form new countries without any kind of violent insurrection.

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August 16, 2025, 08:00:53 AM
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You can still operate peer-to-peer outside of the current consolidated systems of control with crypto-currencies and contracts.

To be an [adult]anarchist is first to reconcile your own hierarchical ways of thinking even down to where you think you stand within those systems and where you think your standing is within the human pyramid; then taking that down to equal ground level brick by brick.

The places where you can be a free and sovereign person are shrinking faster than the rain forests.

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