Israel murders Al Jazeera journalists

[FinneysTrueVision]

well you are stupid.. because you dont even know who the Government leader was. he was not some innocent politician..
gaza Government leader was Yahya Sinwar. he definitely was not some innocent politician. his background is military..

Trump is not some innocent politician. I guess that means FEMA workers deserve to be summarily executed because Trump is a pedophile rapist.

so is isreal suppose to go in armed with the trucks and defend the trucks from ambushes.. or not go in with the trucks and just let hamas take the trucks as your form of declaring a passage as a "secure route"

Ambushes which in large part can be attributed to Israel itself and its proxy terrorist groups.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-providing-guns-to-gaza-jihadist-gang-to-bolster-opposition-to-hamas/

Israel should stop arming the terrorist thugs stealing aid and revert back to U.N. coordinated efforts like 244 organizations are asking them to. Are the Abu Shabab goons the Palestinians you’ve been talking to that you think represent the will of the people?

[franky1]

well you are stupid.. because you dont even know who the Government leader was. he was not some innocent politician..
gaza Government leader was Yahya Sinwar. he definitely was not some innocent politician. his background is military..

Trump is not some innocent politician. I guess that means FEMA workers deserve to be summarily executed because Trump is a pedophile rapist.

trump doesnt have a military background.. but i do laugh how you avoided naming the other gaza government(hamas) council and their background

so is isreal suppose to go in armed with the trucks and defend the trucks from ambushes.. or not go in with the trucks and just let hamas take the trucks as your form of declaring a passage as a "secure route"

Ambushes which in large part can be attributed to Israel itself and its proxy terrorist groups.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-providing-guns-to-gaza-jihadist-gang-to-bolster-opposition-to-hamas/

bolster the opposition of hamas

Israel should stop arming the terrorist thugs stealing aid and revert back to U.N. coordinated efforts like 244 organizations are asking them to. Are the Abu Shabab goons the Palestinians you’ve been talking to that you think represent the will of the people?

if isrealis didnt want aid reaching palestinians they simply would send ZERO aid into gaza. but its isreal that is taking the risk by sending aid in..
again you are avoiding the questions of how the aid ends up in hamas hands.. pretending its palestinians fault.. yet the innocent palestinians are only getting 15% of aid becasue the other 85% end up in hamas control

abu shabab -  a palestinian operating to be the opposition to hamas
..
so now you are becoming extremely obvious
you want the UN coordinated efforts of sending in aid to be transfered to hamas
you want isreal to stop securing aid(avoid hamas)
you want palestinians to stop opposing hamas
you want to blame palestinians for wanting aid that is destined for them

you are obviously thinking the aid belongs to hamas and no one should stop hamas taking it

its plain to see now you are anti-palestinian and pro-hamas

if you are against palestinians trying to form their own political opposition to hamas. then you dont care for the palestinians and you just want hamas to continue existing and controlling and harming palestinians

remember isreal is trying everything it can to get aid to palestinians and avoid it ending up in hamas control.
remember isreal is trying to get peacedeals with palestinians and to de-militarise and remove hamas from power
remember the palestinians are also trying to create their own opposition to hamas

but you dont like the anti-hamas tactics.. which shows you are pro-hamas

..
be honest with yourself, ask yourself this question
when aid is destined for palestinians for free. but ends up in hamas control which hamas then sort into the good stuff for their troops and then selling the crap stuff at markets at 3x-15x market rate.. and then when palestinians risk their lives trying to get aid.. hamas execute them and call them(palestinians) looters
are you for the executions and the judgement of calling palestinians the looters.. ?
or
do you think hamas should be removed from gaza and allow  palestinians to get 100% of aid for free, as destined.. and then form a palestinian authority to take over from hamas and bring peace to the region by signing the peace deals/accords with isreal

ask yourself
should hamas take many palestinian/isreali/GHF/UN aid workers hostage, and then wear their uniforms to play lawfare games of calling it a war crime for killing hamas in disguise? or should hamas be called out for their war crimes of taking aid workers and security as prisoners in the first place

admit it to yourself
A. are you anti-palestinian& pro-hamas
or
B. are you anti-hamas & pro-palestinian

your views on this forum make me believe you are (A)

[FinneysTrueVision]

trump doesnt have a military background..but i do laugh how you avoided naming the other gaza government(hamas) council and their background

Trump wasn’t in the military because he avoided being drafted using some lame excuse about heel spurs. It wasn’t uncommon for people from influential rich families to receive special treatment.
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-avoided-the-military-draft-which-was-common-at-the-time-vietnam-war-2018-12

Trump is still the commander-in-chief. He ordered strikes on Iran and is fully aware of U.S. providing intel to Israel, assisting them in ethnic cleansing.

Hamas’ leaders are not the ones doing aid distribution. Some have been killed in the frontlines, others have been assasinated. The remainder are focused on planning their military strategy against Israel.

bolster the opposition of hamas

Why don’t you read what comes after that on the next line: Abu Shabab has its roots in looting aid trucks.

if you are against palestinians trying to form their own political opposition to hamas. then you dont care for the palestinians and you just want hamas to continue existing and controlling and harming palestinians

They are not innocent political opponents. They are Israel’s mercenary stooges. Israel picking who governs and controls Gaza isn’t what self-determination is all about. That strategy hasn’t played out so well in Syria, where thousands of civilians have been murdered by the rebranded al-Qaeda branch Israel helped take over.

[franky1]

Hamas’ leaders are not the ones doing aid distribution. Some have been killed in the frontlines, others have been assasinated. The remainder are focused on planning their military strategy against Israel.

hamas leaders order its troops to use any means possible to take the aid, this includes ambushes where troops are ordered to use even civilians as human shields and pawns. where by the end result is hamas take 88% of aid entering gaza and the prime/good stuff go to the troops and leaders

ask yourself if only 12% of food is reaching palestinians and there is a food crisis. how come hamas leaders and troops are full of energy, well fed and chubby.. think about where their food comes from if the only food entering gaza is from aid trucks

bolster the opposition of hamas

Why don’t you read what comes after that on the next line: Abu Shabab has its roots in looting aid trucks.

yep once its in hamas control...
hamas admit to killing the 'gang' and 'executing looters' that try to take hold of aid in hamas control

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-executes-looters-gaza-food-crisis-worsens-under-israeli-blockade-2025-05-04/

whats actually happening is. isreal sends in aid with the hope that its destined for palestinians FOR FREE. however, hamas take 88% where it ends up in hamas controlled storage or hamas controlled markets/kitchens, sold at hyper inflated prices. and when palestinians opposing hamas try to take it back(because the food is suppose to be free for palestinians and not hamas) hamas target the liberators and execute them as "looters"

hamas should not have anything to do with the aid. it is/was never theirs. yet they play lawfare games to pretend they deserve it and anyone stopping them from having it are the bad guys

..
but it is obvious you are calling palestinians terrorists for opposing hamas, but are not mentioning hamas in any negative way..
so just admit you are anti-free-palestine and pro-hamas

it is funny how when its shown that actual palestinians are finding unity with isreal, coming to common objectives of wanting to remove hamas and form a civilian political party of bilateral recognition and co-existence, you call it out using negative/vulgar language

That strategy hasn’t played out so well in Syria, where thousands of civilians have been murdered by the rebranded al-Qaeda branch Israel helped take over.

the current leader of syria was not a rebrand of al-queda, he was a syrian that created his own political group and army to oppose assad and was setting up governorates in syria and taxing the civilians and rebuilding the area's. the rebuilding of area's of syria and opposing assads regime was how he became popular and liked by syrians
before that he was in prison so had no chance to having met/plotted with al-queda/bin ladden. bin ladden was long time dead by the time the now syrian leader was released from prison to form his own political and military strategy in syria
even the remaining terror groups of al-queda/isis had bad things to say about syrias current leader, because he didnt join their agenda

im thinking you cant read.. and you truly only can learn via social media reals..
soo
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/I_a5eUNCyqk
enjoy

[FinneysTrueVision]

im thinking you cant read.. and you truly only can learn via social media reals..
soo
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/I_a5eUNCyqk
enjoy

Is that what Israel is spending their hundreds of millions in hasbara budget? A bunch of cringey influencers who can barely get views, even with inflated engagement from bots.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-executes-looters-gaza-food-crisis-worsens-under-israeli-blockade-2025-05-04/

whats actually happening is. isreal sends in aid with the hope that its destined for palestinians FOR FREE. however, hamas take 88% where it ends up in hamas controlled storage or hamas controlled markets/kitchens, sold at hyper inflated prices. and when palestinians opposing hamas try to take it back(because the food is suppose to be free for palestinians and not hamas) hamas target the liberators and execute them as "looters"

hamas should not have anything to do with the aid. it is/was never theirs. yet they play lawfare games to pretend they deserve it and anyone stopping them from having it are the bad guys

Once again you have spun up a tale that does not accurately reflect what is stated in the article.

ask yourself if only 12% of food is reaching palestinians and there is a food crisis. how come hamas leaders and troops are full of energy, well fed and chubby.. think about where their food comes from if the only food entering gaza is from aid trucks

Ask yourself why is it that now that GHF has taken over for the UN in aid distribution and the virtuous and noble Israeli-armed jihadist thugs are protecting the aid from Hamas, why is it that the food crisis has only continued getting worse.

the current leader of syria was not a rebrand of al-queda, he was a syrian that created his own political group and army to oppose assad and was setting up governorates in syria and taxing the civilians and rebuilding the area's. the rebuilding of area's of syria and opposing assads regime was how he became popular and liked by syrians
before that he was in prison so had no chance to having met/plotted with al-queda/bin ladden. bin ladden was long time dead by the time the now syrian leader was released from prison to form his own political and military strategy in syria
even the remaining terror groups of al-queda/isis had bad things to say about syrias current leader, because he didnt join their agenda

It is really disgusting how you are trying to rewrite history to defend an Al-Qaeda terrorist, because he has some alignment with Israel and the US. Al-Jawlani was literally under international sanctions for being part of Al-Qaeda in Iraq.

https://main.un.org/securitycouncil/en/sanctions/1267/aq_sanctions_list/summaries/individual/abu-mohammed-al-jawlani

Just because he trimmed his beard and did a Zelensky style makeover that had the media fawning over him does not make him a good guy now. Yes, there was disagreements between different factions, which is why they splintered off and merged with other terrorist groups to become HTS.

[franky1]

im thinking you cant read.. and you truly only can learn via social media reals..
soo
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/I_a5eUNCyqk
enjoy

Is that what Israel is spending their hundreds of millions in hasbara budget? A bunch of cringey influencers who can barely get views, even with inflated engagement from bots.

its more like when people who research what hamas actually do, but then see idiots eating up anti-palestinian(pro-hamas) social media.. obviously to get the truth and message out, the truth needs to sink down to the same lame media/social media hooks as what hamas waste money on.. because it becomes obvious idiots dont like to read actual data, and need quick snippet/reals spoonfed to them in emotive ways to hook them to atleast get them to hear whats really happening, hoping it will get even idiots to think beyond the pro-hamas spoonfeed of social media crap

It is really disgusting how you are trying to rewrite history to defend an Al-Qaeda terrorist, because he has some alignment with Israel and the US. Al-Jawlani was literally under international sanctions for being part of Al-Qaeda in Iraq.

https://main.un.org/securitycouncil/en/sanctions/1267/aq_sanctions_list/summaries/individual/abu-mohammed-al-jawlani

Just because he trimmed his beard and did a Zelensky style makeover that had the media fawning over him does not make him a good guy now. Yes, there was disagreements between different factions, which is why they splintered off and merged with other terrorist groups to become HTS.

its funny you made a slight effort to recognise different factions, but still have the same mindset to combine them when it suits you heck you even want to flip around with opposing sides by saying he was jihadi one day then american/isreali the next.. then jihadi the next.. it just shows you have no clue at all

you need to do more investigation
he was raised in demascus syria to syrian parents. but he shared his fathers ideologies of defending palestinians as desiring a peaceful nation.. and syrians as desiring for peaceful nation
his ideology/theology was never for transnational jihadists
2000+ he was radicalised by the palestinians in the second Intifada (which became hamas (so nothing about isreali-american alignment/allegiance))
he was paid to study media studies and medicine as part of those duties.. (yep the supremes of hamas(pre hamas) already had plans of lawfare strategies)
they paid for his studies in iraq and he moved there in 2003. but he had no allegiance into the missions of 9-11 and such, he was not part of bin ladens al-queda^TM and never met him.. his ideologies grew to that of sorting out his families homeland which was syria. but to continue in work (he worked as a low level foot soldier for an iraqi faction) which called itself "al-queda in iraq" but was not the same as the bin laden al-queda^TM and done that for a couple years paying back his education funders in labour and felt it was his duty to.
he never met with the supremes of the terror factions. nor any of the al-queda supreme leaders, nor the isi supreme leaders. he was low level and was against things like 9-11 and other transnational terrorisms
he was told to lay some IED's in known transport corridors that americans used in iraq.. but got caught.. and put in prison for nearly 6 years
he didnt have the ideologies to martyr himself for any jihadi/religious radical cause

upon release in mid 2011, he didnt join the main al-queda nor ISI. but instead got compensated by other sub-factions of those for being in prison but remaining loyal and not snitching. this time coincided with the syrian revolution he was paid enough to set up his own faction which he named al-nusra to be part of the syrian revolution fight, which was his personal ideologies and family ideologies/heredity of wanting peace in syria

he didnt follow any of the mission/objectives of any al-queda nor ISI. and they started noticing. al-sharaa kept distancing himself from the transnational jihadi goals and instead concentrated on the national syrian struggles.
from 2012-16 he did grow al-nusra and converted some ISIS troops in syria to join his nusra group. and also threw out some defectors who were doing extreme bad things he was not proud to see them do.. denouncing his involvement and denouncing their actions.. this also shown the syrian population that he was different than the normal jihadi regime, he was smarter, more political, more strategic and wanting peace in syria, desiring the removal of assad. but also removing troops who done bad things using his name. he didnt want to be brushed the same way as terrorists.. he wanted something different

later he changed to HTS and got more political, gaining governorate control of area's, rebuilding them, getting the economy growing in area's that were having economic problems. this too grew his political notoriety and separated the mindsets of people falsely believing he was just another jihadi terrorist

ask yourself if only 12% of food is reaching palestinians and there is a food crisis. how come hamas leaders and troops are full of energy, well fed and chubby.. think about where their food comes from if the only food entering gaza is from aid trucks

Ask yourself why is it that now that GHF has taken over for the UN in aid distribution and the virtuous and noble Israeli-armed jihadist thugs are protecting the aid from Hamas, why is it that the food crisis has only continued getting worse.

because you are a silly uneducated person on the subject.. the group you now want to pile on as the real looters(palestinians opposing hamas), they are not some multi-thousand man strong group.. theres is only about 300 of them in the organised armed group... they cant defend all aid trucks, all they can do is try to get to the aid once in hamas hands.. and thats where they are caught and executed BY HAMAS for looting HAMAS warehouses

.. what the articles highlights and reveals is that in pre May 2025. hamas had stockpiles of aid and was executing palestinian 'looters' of HAMAS hoarded aid
so ask yourself how come hamas was well fed and tendered to(using it as salary and selling it at market), yet they and you consider palestinians wanting to free the aid as 'looters' and executing them

you also need to learn why isreal stopped sending aid from March-May 2025
isreal knew in march it had already sent enough food to last palestinians until september 2025. but were finding out that hamas were taking some. so they stopped because they knew there should be enough to feed palestinians but wanted hamas to come to the negotiation table, and other things like no longer wanting hamas to take more prisoners and deprive/execute palestinians.... but when things like May came about where negotiations failed and it was becoming more apparent that hamas were victimising palestinians. isreal stepped back in trying to get aid to the palestinians using new tactics to avoid as much as possible for it to end up just in hamas control

may-now
though isreal-ghf sent more food, now enough t last palestinians until 2026 if it were not in hamas hands. hamas are still ambushing trucks, UN stopped sending its own volunteers in but suggest hamas can take it at the border(playing lawfare peacekeeper). isreal-GHF had many incursions/attacks/ambushes 'near' aid sites highlighting the take overs still happened on route even after May. isreal/GHF even tried air dropping aid to avoid risk of incursions, even at extra cost

its still an issue because of hamas, which is where isreal are now concentrating its recent effort on Hamas's last largest stronghold.. gaza city

[FinneysTrueVision]

its funny you made a slight effort to recognise different factions, but still have the same mindset to combine them when it suits you heck you even want to flip around with opposing sides by saying he was jihadi one day then american/isreali the next.. then jihadi the next.. it just shows you have no clue at all

Al-Jawlani never stopped being a jihadist. Israel and the U.S. don’t have a problem collaborating with them whenever it suits their agenda.
https://keithwoods.pub/p/israel-jihad

you need to do more investigation

I was going to give a more thorough reply, but it is very clear by now that you are not a serious person. Any more investigation and research will just end up with you moving the goalposts further and further, more gaslighting and more circular reasoning whenever a fact you don’t like is brought up. There is even a term for this kind of behavior.



Everything you accuse others of is just a projection for the very things you support. You idolize terrorists, you support the looting of aid, everything you say is overt zionist propaganda. This isn’t debatable, your own words are irrefutable confirmation of this.

[franky1]

so in your eyes you think/say that i:
support jihadi's whilst also supporting those sending in aid
support the citizens opposing their oppressive governments. but also support oppressive regimes

funny how you are trying all you can to make no sense, but you cant even do a good piece of research on the topic

the journalists sleeping beside hamas at the hospitals(used for military operations).. were not all super innocent unbiassed career journalists.
facts and data show that they have been trained in ways that aid hamas tactics
they have left death notes in their wills that were released, that publicise their martyrdom

as for the current syrian leader. al-sharaa has had his history documented. so while you wanted to play that he was somehow bin laddens second in command and lead transnational terror groups. actual fact shows his theology and intentions were not that of transnational terrorism
infact he was in favour of a peaceful palestinian nation.. and a peaceful syrian nation.

ask yourself. are hamas showing ideologies of peace and rebuilding, or acts of genocide

ask yourself who governments are using diplomacy, politics to bring peace, offer aid and treaties, and even warning citizens on the other side.. vs whos use aid as a weapon, funding their continuance, who use genocidal buzzwords and slogans, declining peace deals and instead using military tactics to govern the land they hide in, using citizens as shields without warning

have you even seen hamas's sponsors(tehran regime) show the empathy of sending hundreds of trucks of aid.. or are they just sending money and military resources into gaza for hamas..

..
you couldnt give a deep thorough reply even if you tried. your replies are just buzzwords you found via social media. you have not even shown an ounce of independent critical thinking to come up with an unbiased response, based on actual events. you just want to play cover up and turn peoples gaze away from any negative talk of hamas, which includes now trying to make palestinians the bad guys

you are not pro-palestinian, in any shape or form. you dont want the war to end. you are very much pro-hamas and you want all isreali/jews wiped off the planet
just admit it

[paxmao]

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/italys-meloni-condemns-killing-journalists-gaza-by-israeli-fire-2025-08-27/

Italy's Meloni condemns killing of journalists in Gaza by Israeli fire
[...]

ROME, Aug 27 (Reuters) - Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni said in a speech on Wednesday that her government condemned the "unjustifiable" killing of journalists in Gaza.
Israel struck Nasser Hospital in the south of the Gaza Strip on Monday, killing at least 20 people, including five journalists who worked for Reuters, the Associated Press, Al Jazeera and others.

[franky1]

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/italys-meloni-condemns-killing-journalists-gaza-by-israeli-fire-2025-08-27/

Italy's Meloni condemns killing of journalists in Gaza by Israeli fire
[...]

ROME, Aug 27 (Reuters) - Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni said in a speech on Wednesday that her government condemned the "unjustifiable" killing of journalists in Gaza.
Israel struck Nasser Hospital in the south of the Gaza Strip on Monday, killing at least 20 people, including five journalists who worked for Reuters, the Associated Press, Al Jazeera and others.

oh reuters.. cool lets have a go at this

the hospital was operating as a military outpost for hamas. the camera's used to keep an eye on IDF movements for hamas intel were that of the journalists.
yep the very camera that was taken out by missiles were that of the freelance videographer that was associated with reuters

Husam al-Masri, was among those killed. He had been operating a live TV feed on the roof and it shut down at the instant of the initial strike

Israel’s Israel Hayom said, “A security source told the newspaper Israel Hayom today [Monday] that the reason for the attack on the Khan Yunis hospital was the presence of a camera on the hospital roof, which Hamas members were using to document IDF forces. The forces received permission to neutralize the camera, but the incident escalated into a wider incident.”

The Reuters live video feed from the hospital, which was operated by Al-Masri, suddenly shut down at the moment of the initial strike, the wire said.

im sure reuters in a few years will come around and say how they failed in vetting their freelance reporters.. one day, but not today

what you have to learn is hamas use a tactic called "lawfare" where they use and abuse resources, facilities and infrastructure for their own military tactics of conceilment, cowardness and hopes of safety.
their incentivise people to hide with hamas in area's considered safe by international law. but by doing so create instances where by them using these area's these area's lose their protective law status because they then become military targets.

many people whom hide with or affiliate with hamas know the risks but continue to surround themselves beside hamas due to their own theologies siding with the hamas regime or being coerced, coaxed or held hostage to then become collateral damage

..
note how the reports from both sides do not speak of dozens-hundreds of patients inflicted by the event.. even though it was supposedly an active hospital "the biggest in southern gaza".. ask yourself where were the patients you would expect the biggest hospital to be treating.. oh wait they were already moved when the hospital became a known hamas outpost

note how these camera's were set up to live feed to monitor IDF.
note how these camera's and their operators were used to give hamas intel of IDF movements
note how there was a military reason to take out the hamas observational outpost.. whereby actual innocent palestinians(patients, neighbouring citizens) were not targetted or hit

and one last thing
when you weed through, and read through the different reports on the others that died and read "civil defense workers". this is the gazan government(aka hamas) defence workers
basically hamas troops disguised as emergency responders

..
isreal also acknowledge it is doing a full investigation into the processes
' the IDF said it would “examine several gaps” in its understanding of the attack. This would include examining the “authorization process prior to the strike” and “the decision-making process in the field.”' such as the authorisation to strike using a drone, somehow became shells from a tank

An Israeli security official with knowledge of the initial inquiry into the strikes told CNN on Monday that IDF forces received authorization to strike the camera with a drone. But instead, Israeli forces fired two tank shells, the source said – the first at the camera and the second at (civil defence) rescue forces.

[FinneysTrueVision]

so in your eyes you think/say that i:
support jihadi's whilst also supporting those sending in aid
support the citizens opposing their oppressive governments. but also support oppressive regimes

funny how you are trying all you can to make no sense, but you cant even do a good piece of research on the topic

the journalists sleeping beside hamas at the hospitals(used for military operations).. were not all super innocent unbiassed career journalists.
facts and data show that they have been trained in ways that aid hamas tactics
they have left death notes in their wills that were released, that publicise their martyrdom

as for the current syrian leader. al-sharaa has had his history documented. so while you wanted to play that he was somehow bin laddens second in command and lead transnational terror groups. actual fact shows his theology and intentions were not that of transnational terrorism
infact he was in favour of a peaceful palestinian nation.. and a peaceful syrian nation.

ask yourself. are hamas showing ideologies of peace and rebuilding, or acts of genocide

ask yourself who governments are using diplomacy, politics to bring peace, offer aid and treaties, and even warning citizens on the other side.. vs whos use aid as a weapon, funding their continuance, who use genocidal buzzwords and slogans, declining peace deals and instead using military tactics to govern the land they hide in, using citizens as shields without warning

have you even seen hamas's sponsors(tehran regime) show the empathy of sending hundreds of trucks of aid.. or are they just sending money and military resources into gaza for hamas..

..
you couldnt give a deep thorough reply even if you tried. your replies are just buzzwords you found via social media. you have not even shown an ounce of independent critical thinking to come up with an unbiased response, based on actual events. you just want to play cover up and turn peoples gaze away from any negative talk of hamas, which includes now trying to make palestinians the bad guys

you are not pro-palestinian, in any shape or form. you dont want the war to end. you are very much pro-hamas and you want all isreali/jews wiped off the planet
just admit it

The TLDR for anyone trying to make sense of these incomprehensible ramblings of a mentally ill individual is that basically you wholeheartedly endorse the Al-Qaeda terrorist who was the liaison of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. No one can be too sociopathic or genocidal for franky1 to sing their praises.

[franky1]

The TLDR for anyone trying to make sense of these incomprehensible ramblings of a mentally ill individual is that basically you wholeheartedly endorse the Al-Qaeda terrorist who was the liaison of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. No one can be too sociopathic or genocidal for franky1 to sing their praises.

you are soo inept you dont even know what side you support*, let alone others. you just want to join a debate of whatever side you read on social media, evn if whats said is wrong
all you can do is pretend other people support things they are not talking about because you are too ignorant to even understand the situations and events that are going on

seriously take some time to learn about the world, the different factions, clans, political parties, their ideologies and theologies. because right now you have no clue about any of them, which is why you are continually incorrect about everything

you are even too afraid to mention the sides which the journalists lean towards, and how they publish propaganda and gather intel for hamas, even when their own death notes talk of their martyrdoms towards the hamas cause

*your avatar pretends to support palestinians, but your post history shows ideologies for hamas and other transnational jihadi oppressors

[FinneysTrueVision]

you are even too afraid to mention the sides which the journalists lean towards, and how they publish propaganda and gather intel for hamas, even when their own death notes talk of their martyrdoms towards the hamas cause

You are too afraid to mention which side Abu Mohammad al-Jolani was fighting for, Al-Qaeda and the Islamic State.

[franky1]

you are even too afraid to mention the sides which the journalists lean towards, and how they publish propaganda and gather intel for hamas, even when their own death notes talk of their martyrdoms towards the hamas cause

You are too afraid to mention which side Abu Mohammad al-Jolani was fighting for, Al-Qaeda and the Islamic State.

al-sharaa was radicalised by the terrorist jihadi's during the second intifada*(2000-ish), because he thought he was fighting to defend palestinians(his fathers ideologies). he used that opportunity to go to university in iraq
*later that group became HAMAS, so he shifted away from that group

he never joined bin laddens al-queda. instead he joined a iraqi faction in 2003 as a low level pawn/foot-soldier, but ended up in prison in 2006 and when he was in prison he obviously couldnt then be part of any big mainstream terror leader groups.. IS was created while he was in prison and couldnt join that either.. and on release from prison he didnt join IS but instead established his own group 'al nusra' which became HTS that concentrated on a syrian objective, which was different to ISIS

ive said this a few times now.. without fear

if you cant distinguish between the different factions, clans and the theologies/ideologies of such different groups. thats on you

al-sharaa had local ideologies and theologies based around palestinians and syrians, he was not interested in the transnational terror plots of the big groups like alqueda and IS

al-sharaa denounced and talked negatively about the transnational attacks of the big groups.
heads of alqueda and IS both showed negativity towards al-sharaa equally, due to the fact that al-sharaa didnt pursue the transnational jihadi regime/plan

[FinneysTrueVision]

instead he joined a iraqi faction in 2003 as a low level pawn/foot-soldier, but ended up in prison in 2006 and when he was in prison he obviously couldnt then be part of any big mainstream terror leader groups.. IS was created while he was in prison and couldnt join that either.. and on release from prison he didnt join IS but instead established his own group 'al nusra' which became HTS that concentrated on a syrian objective, which was different to ISIS

This is blatant disinformation. Al-Jawlani was part of the Islamic State of Iraq, the group that became known as ISIS, under the leadership of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. Jawlani, who was not merely a foot soldier, but a high ranking commander, founded al-Nusra at the direction of Baghdadi, who provided funding and extensive logistical support.

[franky1]

finneytruevision already has lost the debate about the journalists so now trolling about syria.. shame he doesnt use his time to look deeper and away from social media snippets

instead he joined a iraqi faction in 2003 as a low level pawn/foot-soldier, but ended up in prison in 2006 and when he was in prison he obviously couldnt then be part of any big mainstream terror leader groups.. IS was created while he was in prison and couldnt join that either.. and on release from prison he didnt join IS but instead established his own group 'al nusra' which became HTS that concentrated on a syrian objective, which was different to ISIS

This is blatant disinformation. Al-Jawlani was part of the Islamic State of Iraq, the group that became known as ISIS, under the leadership of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. Jawlani, who was not merely a foot soldier, but a high ranking commander, founded al-Nusra at the direction of Baghdadi, who provided funding and extensive logistical support.

before prison(2006) al-sharaa was a foot soldier not a leader.. he was never part of the bin ladden group of transnational terrorism.

after prison he got compensated for his time in prison, and asked if he wanted to be part of the transnational jihadu regime (al-queda / IS) he turned them down
he also did not join ISI, because he instead wanted and succeeded in setting up al-nusra straight after prison using the compensation
ISI was not al-nusra
al-sharaa was not second in command of ISI. they were completely separate clan/groups with different ideologies
ISI wanted control of all the middle east(levant) but al-nusra was just concentrating on territory in syria and toppling assads regime

again you cant even get the idea of the differences between the factions, clans of different groups. nor the differences in the ideologies of such groups
alqueda - transnational jihadi group of bin ladden
alqueda of iraq - sub group of just iraq national missions against american invaders

so again, more spponfeeding:
IS began in 2006 as ISI (islamic state in iraq).. al-sharaa was in prison at this time, so no association with ISI(OMAR al-baghadi)
- also ISI 2006-2010 was lead by OMAR al-baghadi whom died in 2010. so again no association of al-sharaa with leader of IS/ISI
- BAKR al-bagdadi took command of ISI in 2010

al sharaa got released from prison and already set up al-nusra in 2012(just months after prison release) and started doing his own stuff in syria before ISIL
ISI had no interest in syria 2010-2013.. but al-nusra was making successful progress in syria

yes bakr bagdadi seen the territorial successes made by al-nusra,

ISI changed in 2013 to ISIL (in iraq and levant)..
ISIL's announcement was to also show it wanted to enter syria and absorb al-nusra.. (emphasis wanted)
however AQI leaders denounced such announcement if ISIL leaders and instead ordered ISIL to withdraw from syria. ISIL said they would continue and had a faction called ISIS that remained in syria but did not absorb al-nusra

and yes bakr bagdadi wanted to have al-nusra join/merge in with ISIS.. but, it never developed

the disagreement and crap lead to fights between al-queda and ISIS/ISIL
-meanwhile al-nusra continued separately and was not part of ISIS nor al-queda

ISIS leaders and al-queda leaders did not like that al-sharaa was not joining the transnational terror agenda, and he was doing his own syrian missions under al-nusra

western countries were using pre-text and misinformation pretending al-nusra and ISIS/al-queda were tied, but al-sharaa decided to rebrand his group to JFS to show a significant difference between the groups(western nations tried to make out al-sharaa's syrian objectives were also part of transnational intentions)
JFS later became HTS

for emphasis:
ISIS and Al-nusra were not the same thing. not the same group. al-sharaa was not a high level/second of command of ISIS. he was his own leader and founder of Al-nusra.. al-nusra had its own set of missions that lead to issues and resistance and intolerance by ISIS/ISIL and al-queda

[GigaBit]

Nowadays, people have become so selfish that those who are greedy for money or power do not bother to tell the truth as a lie and the lie as a truth. The barbaric torture that Israel is carrying out on unarmed people is not unknown to anyone. They are now torturing ordinary people while trying to suppress the rebels and that is why even Al Jazeera journalists were not spared there. Without seeing who is a journalist or a civilian, they have started mass killings, Which is certainly a dark chapter in the genocide. The world is helpless against big powerful countries. If journalists, civilians and children were kept from this torture, then the slightest humanity in Israel would be revealed. I hope that the people of the world will definitely open their sleeping eyes one day.

[franky1]

Nowadays, people have become so selfish that those who are greedy for money or power do not bother to tell the truth as a lie and the lie as a truth. The barbaric torture that Israel is carrying out on unarmed people is not unknown to anyone. They are now torturing ordinary people while trying to suppress the rebels and that is why even Al Jazeera journalists were not spared there. Without seeing who is a journalist or a civilian, they have started mass killings,

isreali's do know and sent warnings to innocent citizens to leave the area, also the journalists that used their cameras and words to push hamas's agenda were also known
the numbers of true 'innocent' death due to collateral damage is far less than hamas health ministry stats say
most 'al jazeera' journalists were not actually proper career journalists employed by salary by al jazeera long term
same went for reuters too
most were just short contracts with less vetting. most had history of being either trained in media using known hamas college curriculum or were ex-hamas military, or just bias towards hamas to produce its propaganda for income.. its also found some actually used camera equipment specifically to monitor IDF to give intel to hamas
many of them all left death notes showing their martyrdom in the name of hamas leanings

[FinneysTrueVision]

finneytruevision already has lost the debate about the journalists so now trolling about syria.. shame he doesnt use his time to look deeper and away from social media snippets

The only argument you made was “the journalists were Khamas and the rescuers who came to their aid were also Khamas”. It your typical bullshit response trying to always blame the victims of Israeli terror attacks.

You also erratically jump from one topic to another, always evading key points and making up new lies or falling back on the same tired excuses. If I replied to every part of your ridiculous comments, I’d be here all day. Wasting time is all you end up accomplishing in your attempts to muddy the water.

al sharaa got released from prison and already set up al-nusra in 2012(just months after prison release) and started doing his own stuff in syria before ISIL
ISI had no interest in syria 2010-2013.. but al-nusra was making successful progress in syria

While he was in prison, al Nusrah was only a concept. During this time, AQ in Iraq dissolved to become part of Islamic State in Iraq. In prison, Jawlani met with ISI leaders and discussed his concept. The idea was presented to Baghdadi, who then gave Jawlani a leading role in ISI when he was released from prison, before sending him to Syria to create al Nusrah as an affiliate of ISI. Later, the disagreements started and Nusrah became loyal to central al-Qaeda, eventually turning against them too.

Some news and government reports might refer to ISI as al-Qaeda in Iraq, but that is a misnomer. Jawlani joined the group calling themselves Islamic State upon his release from prison. You can downplay it and try to make up a different version of events, but it doesn’t change facts.

[franky1]

You also erratically jump from one topic to another, always evading key points and making up new lies or falling back on the same tired excuses. If I replied to every part of your ridiculous comments, I’d be here all day. Wasting time is all you end up accomplishing in your attempts to muddy the water.

i was talking about the lawfare games of hamas abusing the protections offered to people labelled as "press" by simply having hamas-linked people wear a "press uniform" to cowardly hide.. you were the one that then mentioned things like trump and syria and meanderd the discussion, but you done it with so many lies, that it needed correcting

While he was in prison, al Nusrah was only a concept. During this time, AQ in Iraq dissolved to become part of Islamic State in Iraq. In prison, Jawlani met with ISI leaders and discussed his concept. The idea was presented to Baghdadi, who then gave Jawlani a leading role in ISI when he was released from prison, before sending him to Syria to create al Nusrah as an affiliate of ISI. Later, the disagreements started and Nusrah became loyal to central al-Qaeda, eventually turning against them too.

you are too funny. AQI nor ISI did not conceive the idea of al-nusra.
AQ leader(al-Zawahiri’s) didnt even recognise al-nusra until early 2013, after the US-UN designated al-nusra as a terror group
ISI leader(baghdadi) didnt have plans for syria until 2013 after seeing al-nusra's progress
when the UN-US designated al-nusra as a terror group, 29 syrian groups opposing assad regime signed a petition against the US designation of al nusra

during the revolution, 2012+ al-nusra sponsored locally tailored governance in ungoverned areas of Syria, rebuilt economies and won favour in a more political way and less destructive way compared to ISIS

again you have no clue. the transnational terror groups did not have plots to take over the assad regime, nor that of peace in nations. their goals were the anti-american jihadi stuff. america was not really in syria, so the transnational groups (AQ,AQI, IS,ISI,ISIL) didnt see syria as a goal/destination pre 2013
it was al-sharaa's ideology and theology that wanted to do something for palestinians/syrian and took the opportunity on himself
from 2013 ISI(S/L) were at loggerheads with al-nusra.. and competing for resources, territory and notoriety. not partnering
ISI(s/L) wanted to merge with al-nusra, but it never happened. ISI(S/L) leader was pretty much jealous of al-sharaa's success and wanted to claim those successes as his own. and on the flip side tried to tie atrocities performed by ISI(S/L) on al-nusra to shift the westerners eyes off of ISI(S/L)

you might want to try doing more research.. especially how al-sharaa in 2000 had ideologies of defending palestinians(his dads theology) but got radicalised by the group that would then become hamas, and paid to go to university to learn media/medical studies.. (notice the lawfare training even back then that were prologues of hamas tactics in planning stages(wanting troops with press/aid credentials)) luckily al-sharaa moved away from their regime, and joined another group as a foot-soldier, and got in prison and moved away from other groups (to avoid the crap of the jihadi transnational terror campaigns of which echo buzzwords you idolise)

al-sharaa's aims. goals, ideals, and theologies differed to the transnational genocide regimes of "death to america death to isreal"
al-sharaa was never bin laddens, no omar baghdadi nor bakr baghdadi's second in command. al-sharaa had his own path, his own theologies.

you are just angry that al-sharaa didnt follow the transnational genocide slogans/buzzwords you idolise.. you know, the ones hamas idolise but real peaceful palestinians dont care to be part of.. to which you are also now mad and angry with palestinians for wanting to revolt against hamas's goals

you only sympathise with those that idealogically follow the regimes that echo the buzzwords, you are only sympathising towards the "journalists" because they mention your favourite buzzwords.
..for instance, if they talked about removing hamas and bringing peaceful co-existence to the region. where they kept their camera's on hamas leaders instead. you would be screaming with anger that they must be some bad people and needed to be taken out to protect your idols