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August 21, 2025, 07:14:34 PM
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Turkey lost to Lithuania by a landslide on August 7th (70-91).
This time, they defeated Lithuania 84-81.

I didn't watch the entire match. When I did, we were playing well, even leading. I didn't watch because I thought we were going to lose anyway. I was surprised to hear the score later. This win gave me some hope for the European Championship. I think we'll at least make it through the group stage.
It was different Turkey than we saw few weeks ago. Then they were hust started preparation proccess and played without Larkin.
Turkey were leading most part of game, in the end Lithuania took a lead with a big run, but few stupid mistakes didn't let us to win.
It's difficult to play against Turkey with their height. Like having Sengun and Osmani on the court on the same time. Something what you don't see often nowadays.

Bad news for Bosnia-Herzegovina. Dzanan Musa will not join their team for the tournament, since his recovery from the surgery that he had in Munich will last longer than he and the doctors expected. Losing their most valuable player is a big blow and cuts their chances drastically for any good position.
It's big hit for Bosnia. Without Musa I'm not even surevthat they will get out of the group stage. Georgia will be big challenge for them.

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August 23, 2025, 11:05:50 AM
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Bad news for Bosnia-Herzegovina. Dzanan Musa will not join their team for the tournament, since his recovery from the surgery that he had in Munich will last longer than he and the doctors expected. Losing their most valuable player is a big blow and cuts their chances drastically for any good position.

This is really bad news, unfortunately they are left without, as you said, their most valuable player. I don’t know how they will manage without him. Otherwise, Bosnia and Herzegovina didn’t have bad results in the qualifiers they had the same number of points as Croatia, but qualified together with France for euro basket. We will see what kind of results they will have without Musa.

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August 23, 2025, 04:03:52 PM
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We will see what kind of results they will have without Musa.

Their odds drop a lot after the announcement that Musa will be out and it's more than logical. Musa is their best player, and without him on their team will lose almost half of their strength (in terms of numbers/ statistics). However, this will be a chance for the other non-favorite teams of this group to get a ticket for the next phase.



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August 23, 2025, 09:51:24 PM
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Today I watched Germany - Spain game, one of last friendly games before Euroasket. Germany didn't had much troubles and got confident win. What I can say - Germany looks so complete. If 2 years ago when they won World Cup, it was very unexpected result, now it wouldn't anything surprising if they will take gold.
Greece - France friendly on Sunday is remaining and then Eurobasket opener on Wednesday.

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August 24, 2025, 11:10:59 AM
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The tournament is now just a few days away. We've seen how prepared the teams are, and judging by their performances in the friendly matches, Germany looks like a strong contender for the championship this year. Spain doesn't look particularly ambitious this season. Dennis Schröder will be the MVP again this season and looks poised to lead Germany to the championship.

Türkiye is another contender for the championship. If Alperen Şengün, Adem Bona, and Shane Larkin can form a strong trio, we could see some top-tier basketball Smiley

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August 24, 2025, 04:52:15 PM
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The tournament is now just a few days away. We've seen how prepared the teams are, and judging by their performances in the friendly matches, Germany looks like a strong contender for the championship this year. Spain doesn't look particularly ambitious this season. Dennis Schröder will be the MVP again this season and looks poised to lead Germany to the championship.

I didn't see the game but I don't doubt that Germany has the quality to be among the medalists. However, I can't see Dennis "The Menace" Schröder as an MVP of the tournament, unless Germany gets the gold medal. But for the gold medal, my favorite is Serbia, thus the MVP title goes to Jokic. Grin

Türkiye is another contender for the championship. If Alperen Şengün, Adem Bona, and Shane Larkin can form a strong trio, we could see some top-tier basketball Smiley

Everyone wishes their home teams to be the winners but we all know that the reality is different. Turkey might have a great coach and a very good team, but it will be a tremendous surprise to win this tournament. They will have to surpass their limits as a team in every game and win against stronger and more experienced teams who also have top players. Sorry, but I find it very hard. Sad



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August 24, 2025, 07:12:44 PM
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The tournament is now just a few days away. We've seen how prepared the teams are, and judging by their performances in the friendly matches, Germany looks like a strong contender for the championship this year. Spain doesn't look particularly ambitious this season. Dennis Schröder will be the MVP again this season and looks poised to lead Germany to the championship.

I didn't see the game but I don't doubt that Germany has the quality to be among the medalists. However, I can't see Dennis "The Menace" Schröder as an MVP of the tournament, unless Germany gets the gold medal. But for the gold medal, my favorite is Serbia, thus the MVP title goes to Jokic. Grin


Yeah in a tournament where you have Jokic, Giannis, Luka, Bogi, Sengun and others there is no chance for Schröder to win MVP, unless like you said they win gold, which is very unlikely to happen.
This time the talent pool is just too big and if I would have to bet money on MVP it's Jokic 100 out of 100 times, no other pick possible for me.

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The tournament is now just a few days away. We've seen how prepared the teams are, and judging by their performances in the friendly matches, Germany looks like a strong contender for the championship this year. Spain doesn't look particularly ambitious this season. Dennis Schröder will be the MVP again this season and looks poised to lead Germany to the championship.

Türkiye is another contender for the championship. If Alperen Şengün, Adem Bona, and Shane Larkin can form a strong trio, we could see some top-tier basketball Smiley

Germany, under Dennis Shöreder's leadership, looks poised to do well. Turkey and Germany faced off in the VTG Cup, where Germany defeated Türkiye.

They lost to Serbia in the final. Serbia appears to be Germany's biggest obstacle to the championship. I've had the opportunity to watch Serbia in a couple of matches, and they're a very good team. Jokic is the leader, but he's not the only one. They have Micic, Guduric, and Bogdanovic all in the mix.

Serbia is the big favorite in this tournament. I'm curious to see who's second.


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As a follower of the Turkish national basketball team, I hope to achieve a good placing in this tournament, but of course, like everyone else, Serbia is my favorite. I hope we can show potential to advance to the quarterfinals and semifinals. We have good players, and Alperen Şengün and Adem Bona are dangerous. Turkey's biggest challenge will be the lack of players capable of scoring from behind the three-point line. Our big men are very qualified, but we don't have much productive shooting guards. I hope Cedi, Furkan, and Shane Larkin will put in extra effort and help us win matches.

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August 25, 2025, 11:54:23 AM
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Türkiye is another contender for the championship. If Alperen Şengün, Adem Bona, and Shane Larkin can form a strong trio, we could see some top-tier basketball Smiley

Germany, under Dennis Shöreder's leadership, looks poised to do well. Turkey and Germany faced off in the VTG Cup, where Germany defeated Türkiye.

They lost to Serbia in the final. Serbia appears to be Germany's biggest obstacle to the championship. I've had the opportunity to watch Serbia in a couple of matches, and they're a very good team. Jokic is the leader, but he's not the only one. They have Micic, Guduric, and Bogdanovic all in the mix.

Serbia is the big favorite in this tournament. I'm curious to see who's second.

Serbia has a lot of active NBA player including Jokic which is the best NBA player currently.

Serbia can rival US full roster so it’s easy to assume that they dominate the Eurobasket. France, Spain and Germany are the best contender for 2nd place for me.

What’s interesting on Euro league is they are much better now than the current NBA in terms of competition.



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August 25, 2025, 12:43:00 PM
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As a follower of the Turkish national basketball team, I hope to achieve a good placing in this tournament, but of course, like everyone else, Serbia is my favorite. I hope we can show potential to advance to the quarterfinals and semifinals. We have good players, and Alperen Şengün and Adem Bona are dangerous. Turkey's biggest challenge will be the lack of players capable of scoring from behind the three-point line. Our big men are very qualified, but we don't have much productive shooting guards. I hope Cedi, Furkan, and Shane Larkin will put in extra effort and help us win matches.


I think Türkiye has a good squad, but their defensive weaknesses were severe in the Montenegro match. They struggled to get defensive rebounds, but because their offensive power is strong and Montenegro's team isn't very high-quality, Turkey won, but they won't be able to do the same against Germany or Serbia.

The first match is against Latvia on Wednesday. I hope Türkiye wins, but Latvia is a strong team. Turkey will advance from the group, but I don't know how far they'll go. I don't think they'll win the championship.


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Yeah in a tournament where you have Jokic, Giannis, Luka, Bogi, Sengun and others there is no chance for Schröder to win MVP, unless like you said they win gold, which is very unlikely to happen.
This time the talent pool is just too big and if I would have to bet money on MVP it's Jokic 100 out of 100 times, no other pick possible for me.

The thing is that the MVP award will certainly go to the player whose team will get the trophy, and based on the odds and how teams are now, Serbia is the undisputed favorite; thus, Jokic will be the MVP. However, having such world-class players in almost any team can change things, and perhaps we will witness something totally different. But we will know soon enough, 2 days left for the beginning of the tournament! Tongue



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August 25, 2025, 02:26:53 PM
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The tournament is now just a few days away. We've seen how prepared the teams are, and judging by their performances in the friendly matches, Germany looks like a strong contender for the championship this year. Spain doesn't look particularly ambitious this season. Dennis Schröder will be the MVP again this season and looks poised to lead Germany to the championship.

Türkiye is another contender for the championship. If Alperen Şengün, Adem Bona, and Shane Larkin can form a strong trio, we could see some top-tier basketball Smiley

Germany, under Dennis Shöreder's leadership, looks poised to do well. Turkey and Germany faced off in the VTG Cup, where Germany defeated Türkiye.

They lost to Serbia in the final. Serbia appears to be Germany's biggest obstacle to the championship. I've had the opportunity to watch Serbia in a couple of matches, and they're a very good team. Jokic is the leader, but he's not the only one. They have Micic, Guduric, and Bogdanovic all in the mix.

Serbia is the big favorite in this tournament. I'm curious to see who's second.

Although Germany will try to compete a lot now, since they defeated Turkey in the VTG Cup, Germany lost against Serbia. Of course, Serbia will be a big obstacle for Germany in this championship, because the Serbian team has enough skilled players and the leadership of Svetislav Pešić is great.
Since the Serbian team has good players and they have played very well before, the team will be ahead. Moreover, Serbia is far ahead of all other teams, so they are definitely the favorites in this championship, competing with them, maybe all other teams will not be able to catch up.

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Although Germany will try to compete a lot now, since they defeated Turkey in the VTG Cup, Germany lost against Serbia. Of course, Serbia will be a big obstacle for Germany in this championship, because the Serbian team has enough skilled players and the leadership of Svetislav Pešić is great.
Since the Serbian team has good players and they have played very well before, the team will be ahead. Moreover, Serbia is far ahead of all other teams, so they are definitely the favorites in this championship, competing with them, maybe all other teams will not be able to catch up.

Honestly, whoever was or is the coach of Serbia won't matter much. Serbia will lose the trophy only if they blow themselves up, OR some other team makes the game of their life in every aspect/area. I can't see this happening with Jokic at his best, surrounded by another 4-5 NBAers who any one of them can cause panic in other defences.
But never say never, right?

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Yeah in a tournament where you have Jokic, Giannis, Luka, Bogi, Sengun and others there is no chance for Schröder to win MVP, unless like you said they win gold, which is very unlikely to happen.
This time the talent pool is just too big and if I would have to bet money on MVP it's Jokic 100 out of 100 times, no other pick possible for me.

The thing is that the MVP award will certainly go to the player whose team will get the trophy, and based on the odds and how teams are now, Serbia is the undisputed favorite; thus, Jokic will be the MVP. However, having such world-class players in almost any team can change things, and perhaps we will witness something totally different. But we will know soon enough, 2 days left for the beginning of the tournament! Tongue
Interesting what odds for Jokic to become MVP, I guess it's not very attractive Cheesy.
We can already exclude players like Doncic, Markkanen as there is no chance that their teams will go far. Sengun or Giannis also have don't much chances.
IMO, Schroder is 2nd option after Jokic to become MVP. You need to win gold and when it comes to Germany, I can see it happening.

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The tournament is now just a few days away. We've seen how prepared the teams are, and judging by their performances in the friendly matches, Germany looks like a strong contender for the championship this year. Spain doesn't look particularly ambitious this season. Dennis Schröder will be the MVP again this season and looks poised to lead Germany to the championship.

I didn't see the game but I don't doubt that Germany has the quality to be among the medalists. However, I can't see Dennis "The Menace" Schröder as an MVP of the tournament, unless Germany gets the gold medal. But for the gold medal, my favorite is Serbia, thus the MVP title goes to Jokic. Grin


Yeah in a tournament where you have Jokic, Giannis, Luka, Bogi, Sengun and others there is no chance for Schröder to win MVP, unless like you said they win gold, which is very unlikely to happen.
This time the talent pool is just too big and if I would have to bet money on MVP it's Jokic 100 out of 100 times, no other pick possible for me.

Jokić or Luka, but it would probably be the same for me if i were to bet money. Jokic contributes a lot to the team, he always gives advice to the players, and sometimes he even speaks instead of the coach. Other players don’t have the kind of quality that Jokic has. In general, it’s expected that he will be the MVP, but we’ll see.

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Jokić or Luka, but it would probably be the same for me if i were to bet money. Jokic contributes a lot to the team, he always gives advice to the players, and sometimes he even speaks instead of the coach. Other players don’t have the kind of quality that Jokic has. In general, it’s expected that he will be the MVP, but we’ll see.

Thing is, since Slovenia has 0 chance to win anything in this tournament so does Luka. We all know how it is, if the team performs bad, the individual player (even if he scores like 40 ppg) has 0 chance to win an MVP award, always been that way. Sure, if there was the biggest miracle of all time and his team goes to the semis or something there would be a chance but other than that there is absolutely no chance.

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Jokić or Luka, but it would probably be the same for me if i were to bet money. Jokic contributes a lot to the team, he always gives advice to the players, and sometimes he even speaks instead of the coach. Other players don’t have the kind of quality that Jokic has. In general, it’s expected that he will be the MVP, but we’ll see.

Thing is, since Slovenia has 0 chance to win anything in this tournament so does Luka. We all know how it is, if the team performs bad, the individual player (even if he scores like 40 ppg) has 0 chance to win an MVP award, always been that way. Sure, if there was the biggest miracle of all time and his team goes to the semis or something there would be a chance but other than that there is absolutely no chance.

I agree that everything depends on the team, not on a single player, but miracles do happen. Luka is an excellent player, we’ll see if the team can keep up with him. With Serbia it’s different, there literally isn’t a bad player there, and they all play as one. That’s why Jokic is definitely the main favorite for the MVP award.

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Interesting what odds for Jokic to become MVP, I guess it's not very attractive Cheesy.
We can already exclude players like Doncic, Markkanen as there is no chance that their teams will go far. Sengun or Giannis also have don't much chances.
IMO, Schroder is 2nd option after Jokic to become MVP. You need to win gold and when it comes to Germany, I can see it happening.

Well, it's as we all said and agreed. Serbia and Germany are the favorites for the first 2 places, and if they are not, well, it will be a surprise for all. In any case, we will enjoy every game of the tournament with such players. Cool

With Serbia it’s different, there literally isn’t a bad player there, and they all play as one. That’s why Jokic is definitely the main favorite for the MVP award.

And maybe, this is the only way to see someone else as the MVP and not Jokic. If the criteria for the MVP are his sole contribution to bringing his team to the medals, then Jokic doesn't necessarily have to be the MVP. Because, as you said correctly, the whole Serbian team is like one player. E.g., if Luca or Giannis manages to bring their teams among the medals, then they can take the title of the MVP because they are both the players who change the whole picture on their teams. However, we all know that this is difficult to happen.



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Interesting what odds for Jokic to become MVP, I guess it's not very attractive Cheesy.
We can already exclude players like Doncic, Markkanen as there is no chance that their teams will go far. Sengun or Giannis also have don't much chances.
IMO, Schroder is 2nd option after Jokic to become MVP. You need to win gold and when it comes to Germany, I can see it happening.

Well, it's as we all said and agreed. Serbia and Germany are the favorites for the first 2 places, and if they are not, well, it will be a surprise for all. In any case, we will enjoy every game of the tournament with such players. Cool

With Serbia it’s different, there literally isn’t a bad player there, and they all play as one. That’s why Jokic is definitely the main favorite for the MVP award.

And maybe, this is the only way to see someone else as the MVP and not Jokic. If the criteria for the MVP are his sole contribution to bringing his team to the medals, then Jokic doesn't necessarily have to be the MVP. Because, as you said correctly, the whole Serbian team is like one player. E.g., if Luca or Giannis manages to bring their teams among the medals, then they can take the title of the MVP because they are both the players who change the whole picture on their teams. However, we all know that this is difficult to happen.

It’s hard to happen, but not impossible, because we know the quality of both Luka and Giannis. We know that they can score 40+ points. I agree again, it’s difficult but possible. Serbia somehow looks to me now like team USA at the previous Olympic Games. When they were losing to Serbia by almost 20 points in the semifinals, and when Curry’s three-point shots weren’t falling, that’s when Durant stepped up to fix things and replace him in that role. That’s the example Serbia reminds me of if Jokic "falls short," then there’s Bogdanovic, and if Bogdanovic has a bad game, then there’s Micic, and vice versa. In any case, we’ll see, i’m hoping for a great tournament.

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