From Newbie To Legendary: The Case For Early Opportunities

[Dulen007]

From my research about this forum and its history, I’ve come to understand why it was created in the first place, and that is to spread Bitcoin knowledge across the world, create a place for discussions, and help people grow in their understanding of this technology. Over the years, this forum has produced incredible members who started as complete beginners and became valuable contributors.
One thing I discovered is that in the past, there used to be signature campaigns that at least Jr. Members could join. It wasn’t just about the earnings. I believe these campaigns encouraged newcomers to read more, research, write better posts, and participate in meaningful discussions. Many of the high-ranking members today probably had their spark from those early opportunities.
Now, those campaigns no longer exist. I’m not fully sure why they were stopped. Maybe because of spam or misuse, but I honestly believe not every newcomer is a spammer. There are still people who join with genuine interest, willing to learn and contribute if they have a reason to stay active.
Bringing back campaigns for at least J. Members, even in a limited or carefully monitored way, could motivate more newcomers to stay, learn, and improve. While they’re getting motivated, they’ll also be building the habits and skills that could make them Legendary one day.

If the goal is to keep growing the Bitcoin community, then we should also be thinking about how to nurture the next generation of members. Sometimes, a little opportunity is all it takes to create a great contributor..

[EarnOnVictor]

The absence of the lower rank campaigns may not necessarily be linked to spamming or low-quality posting, but to the discretion of the campaign managers. Every campaign manager knows what they want for their campaign, which makes it look the way it does now.

[Plaguedeath]

Signature campaigns aren't created by the forum, move this thread to Service Discussion.

Signature campaign for Jr.Member is wasting money, currently there are many Full Member+ without campaign. It's not all about the post quality, it's also about the signature you wore/visibility. Jr. Member can only wear plain text with very limited characters, how it can attract people to see his signature?

There are still people who join with genuine interest, willing to learn and contribute if they have a reason to stay active.

You said they have a genuine interest, then in your last words you said "reason to stay active", so which one? it's the genuine interest or signature campaign? don't mix it.

[Joy- maker]

Well am not against your opinion of creating slots for low rank members in signature campaigns, beside everything depends on campaign managers and not the forum, so if campaign managers see reasons to creat slots for jr member rank and member rank it's cool, but come to think of it don't see creating slot for jr member and member rank will make them not to be commited in learning and grow in this forum?  Because from what I have observed so far I noticed that immediately some users here join any signature campaign they don't longer take their time to make good and quality posts, their  main focus is to complete their post quarter for the week in other for them to get paid which not really making sense. And Please don't see this my comment as a canter to your opinion at least see some seasons in this my comment.

[_act_]

One thing I discovered is that in the past, there used to be signature campaigns that at least Jr. Members could join. It wasn’t just about the earnings. I believe these campaigns encouraged newcomers to read more, research, write better posts, and participate in meaningful discussions. Many of the high-ranking members today probably had their spark from those early opportunities.
Now, those campaigns no longer exist. I’m not fully sure why they were stopped. Maybe because of spam or misuse, but I honestly believe not every newcomer is a spammer. There are still people who join with genuine interest, willing to learn and contribute if they have a reason to stay active.

I was a full member before I first participated in a campaign. Full member ranks and higher ranks have more experience and larger signature space than those of lower ranks. If someone wants to stay and remain active on this forum, the person will rank up to legendary is what that I noticed.

If the goal is to keep growing the Bitcoin community, then we should also be thinking about how to nurture the next generation of members. Sometimes, a little opportunity is all it takes to create a great contributor..

Some people are not here to even join a campaign. Anyone that wants to join a campaign should rank up to full member and remain active. Just 100 merits is required for that.

[Perfectbaby]

I don't directly see how newcomers or newbies now directly subjected to join a campaign to increase their knowledge. I could flashed my own time what I started, I was eager to learn and understand how things work over here, I wasn't actually focusing on earning or increasing in rank, and yet my curiosity to know things kept boosting me where I had to grow so quickly and when I rank up, it wasn't that stressful for me, in fact immediately they launched and I applied they accepted me.
So, I think you should be thinking of increasing your knowledge and then you would have that chance of gaining merits rank up.

[Dulen007]

You said they have a genuine interest, then in your last words you said "reason to stay active", so which one? it's the genuine interest or signature campaign? don't mix it.

What I meant is that newcomers already have a genuine interest in Bitcoin. The signature campaigns were just a tool to give them extra motivation to stay active and contribute more, not to create interest from scratch.

[lovesmayfamilis]

You said they have a genuine interest, then in your last words you said "reason to stay active", so which one? it's the genuine interest or signature campaign? don't mix it.

What I meant is that newcomers already have a genuine interest in Bitcoin. The signature campaigns were just a tool to give them extra motivation to stay active and contribute more, not to create interest from scratch.

Lots of high-flown words. To read and develop and, therefore, to rise in rank, you need to be a little selfless. Many high rankers did not start earning from the rank of a beginner. But you, OP, do nothing for free, apparently, so with such a view of things, it will be difficult for you not only on this forum but also in life. Sometimes you need to offer something first so that they are interested in you, and only after that can your name work for you.

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Besides, creating posts with the help of AI is not your contribution, and with such an offer, no one will ever accept you into any signature company.

Miners play a very big role in keeping Bitcoin running. They help confirm transactions and make sure everything is secure. Without them, the network wouldn’t work properly, and transactions could get stuck forever.

Now, about the Future; Yes, the block rewards will stop one day because Bitcoin has a fixed supply. But even after that, miners can still earn money from transaction fees. As more people use Bitcoin, the total fees might be enough to keep miners interested. The more the network grows, the more chances there are for miners to earn just by helping the system run.

But if miners ever stopped completely (which is very unlikely), Bitcoin would face a big challenge. That’s why it’s important that the community keeps building and improving the system so it stays strong in the long run.

One cool thing to remember is this: Bitcoin was made to survive without depending on any one group not even the miners. So if things ever change, chances are new solutions will come up too. That's how strong communities work.

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[The Sceptical Chymist]

One thing I discovered is that in the past, there used to be signature campaigns that at least Jr. Members could join. It wasn’t just about the earnings. I believe these campaigns encouraged newcomers to read more, research, write better posts, and participate in meaningful discussions.

Oh hell no.  I'm not sure why exactly you believe that, but signature campaigns have basically acted as the biggest billboard advertisement you've ever seen in your life.  Imagine everyone in the world can see it, it's that big.  And what it says is:

"WRITING JOBS AVAILABLE, NO PROFICIENCY IN WRITING OR KNOWLEDGE OR EVEN INTEREST IN BITCOIN REQUIRED.  COME ONE, COME ALL!!"

And it's typically been the lower-ranked members who've made this place so polluted with crap.  So if it's true that there aren't any campaigns with spots for Jr. Members (I haven't looked at what campaigns are available in a long time), then I tip my fedora to whoever made that happen.

OP, I'm not sure if you're really a newbie, since I never trust newbies who write posts like yours, but on the off chance you are, why don't you go back to December 2017, right before the merit system was fired onto the forum like a ballistic missile.  You'll see that there were tons of members with alt accounts talking to each other in the same thread, cheating in campaigns, more zero-quality posts than interesting ones and much more.  It was a nightmare for those of us who love bitcointalk.   All of it is still there for anybody to read.

[knowngunman]

If the goal is to keep growing the Bitcoin community, then we should also be thinking about how to nurture the next generation of members. Sometimes, a little opportunity is all it takes to create a great contributor..

Tell us you're here for a signature campaign and nobody will crucify you

Aren't you aware some people are much active here even without participating in any campaign? In fact, some of them are against signature campaigns and advocate for it cancellation.

They have a reason to be here, simply to contribute and it's genuine. If signature campaigns are the reason to keep you active here, you should sponsor one and keep it for as long as you want to stay here or at least, invite a client to come and run signature here otherwise you won't stay long here.

You should focus on how to engage in meaningful discussions to rank up your account instead of looking for a signature campaign to motivate you. No one noticed you are here and nobody cares whether you leave or stay.

[Asiska02]

Bringing back campaigns for at least J. Members, even in a limited or carefully monitored way, could motivate more newcomers to stay, learn, and improve. While they’re getting motivated, they’ll also be building the habits and skills that could make them Legendary one day.

First impression is what matters a lot. For a user who joined to gain the best of knowledge about Bitcoin won’t mind how long it’ll take them to reach the rank to be able to join signature campaigns available for them. It’s just like an incentive you get for contributing to the forum at the discretion of campaign managers and not a must that you’ll feel compelled to be your right to have once you’re here.

If the goal is to keep growing the Bitcoin community, then we should also be thinking about how to nurture the next generation of members. Sometimes, a little opportunity is all it takes to create a great contributor..

Does nurturing of new members have to be through getting them into campaigns from early stages in the forum? You can nurture new members by guiding them also, giving them the first hand informations they need to know about the forum, that’s how new generation of members are built and not getting them into campaigns before they show their best of contributions to the forum.

[notocactus]

Newbies with posts like this are almost not actual newbies. Findings from lovemayfamilis just proved this but I witnessed many fake newbies like this so the findings don't surprise me at all.

Newbies with posts like I want to learn or I want to teach others only ring the alarm bell and make other forum members have more cautious thinking that they are fake newbies.

Newbies- Stop teaching when you need to learn.

[libert19]

Now, those campaigns no longer exist. I’m not fully sure why they were stopped. Maybe because of spam or misuse, but I honestly believe not every newcomer is a spammer.

Altcoin bounties used to have jr member spots, but these altcoin bounties themselves are rare sight these days, much less a worthy ones and forum has no involvement in this, altcoin projects themselves stopped having interest in forum as place for their promotion.

By the way, I just checked bounties section for you and there is one for jr members: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5554005.0

Now, whatever existing, altcoin bounties are absolute shit since last few years, above mentioned looks no exception, but it may help you with motivations.

[The Cryptovator]

From my research about this forum and its history, I’ve come to understand why it was created in the first place, and that is to spread Bitcoin knowledge across the world, create a place for discussions, and help people grow in their understanding of this technology. Over the years, this forum has produced incredible members who started as complete beginners and became valuable contributors.

This is right; the forum was created to gather all the members who love and want to learn about Bitcoin. This is the place you can engage in open discussion about crypto and economics issues as well, but it is mainly focused on crypto discussion. There are different boards for different kinds of discussion. If a newbie spends time here and intends to learn, then there are a lot of things here to learn, to be honest. Just need a stronger dedication.

One thing I discovered is that in the past, there used to be signature campaigns that at least Jr. Members could join. It wasn’t just about the earnings. I believe these campaigns encouraged newcomers to read more, research, write better posts, and participate in meaningful discussions. Many of the high-ranking members today probably had their spark from those early opportunities.

You seem more interested in the signature campaign than in learning and contributing to the forum. I know it does encourage lower-ranked people to be active on the forum. But this isn't really related to forum functions; campaigns are often managed by the campaign manager, and it would be you as well. So it depends on managers; either they want to accept a Jr member or not.

Now, those campaigns no longer exist. I’m not fully sure why they were stopped. Maybe because of spam or misuse, but I honestly believe not every newcomer is a spammer. There are still people who join with genuine interest, willing to learn and contribute if they have a reason to stay active.
Bringing back campaigns for at least J. Members, even in a limited or carefully monitored way, could motivate more newcomers to stay, learn, and improve. While they’re getting motivated, they’ll also be building the habits and skills that could make them Legendary one day.

I am just curious: why are you sointerested in the signature campaign exactly? I know all Jr members aren't spammers, but most of them are spammers. Whoever comes here to learn, they will definitely exist even without any signature campaign. They will contribute to the forum; as a reward, he will achieve a higher rank day by day. That means automatically he will be eligible for the signature campaign later. Doesn't necessarily start earning from the beginning of joining the forum.

[SamReomo]

Bringing back campaigns for at least J. Members, even in a limited or carefully monitored way, could motivate more newcomers to stay, learn, and improve. While they’re getting motivated, they’ll also be building the habits and skills that could make them Legendary one day.

Well, like others I also believe that it's not worth it to accept Jr Members into signature campaigns and that's why managers don't accept them. The reason is simple, the signature campaigns on this forum are basically advertisements funded by the platforms, and the managers want high signature space to advertise a platform properly and that's why they pay more money to Hero/Legendary members than to Sr or Full members.

However, one should also keep in mind that being a Legendary member isn't enough to get in those signature campaigns. There're few or many Legendary members who're not in signature campaigns, and they don't even get any offers either but at the same time there are many members of low rank like Sr members or Hero members who're in campaigns.

I suggest you to be active on the forum and learn as much as possible by reading posts of reputed members of the forum, and when you've really good stuff that you want to post then do that without any thinking, but you must read the rules of the forum to be on safe side. Overtime, you'll start getting merits and that'll help you to rank up. Instead of creating threads like this you may focus on learning and contributing.

[Stalker22]

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If the goal is to keep growing the Bitcoin community, then we should also be thinking about how to nurture the next generation of members. Sometimes, a little opportunity is all it takes to create a great contributor..

Honestly, thats highly debatable. Are we supposed to believe that folks who show up just to grab some quick cash, barely lifting a finger, tossing out AI- generated garbage posts, are magically gonna turn into top-tier contributors? Come on, get real.

If someone is only here for the payday, you better believe they are gonna keep doing the bare minimum to squeeze out some coins. That is how people are. To (foolishly) think that these users are randomly going to worthwhile members because they "found passion for Bitcoin" is naive.  I have seen numerous cases that show just the opposite.

[AVE5]

All I can say is that at your rank stage Op, if you consider to earn payment in a campaign as what'd motivate you to learn and contributes effortlessly with good qualities, I think it'll be difficult for you to cope here because you shouldn't have to prioritize to that.
I agree with you that the implementation of signatures and campaigns in the forum is one of it that has brought the forum this far with active users.
Take this serious; at the earlier time of the forum was easier to earn merits which accounts members rank up which as well give you an edge to join signature campaigns but today's, there're much more users in the forum which has trafficked the merit flows while users have to put more efforts on their post qualities to earn merits and rank up.
Now take merits have become a valuable for the forum which determines your rank up to be eligible to joineor apply for campaigns and signatures.
Don't also forget, this platform is basically an institution to discuss and learn about bitcoin and crypto, earning payment is otherwise a privilege and not a right.

[CryptSafe]

Newbies with posts like this are almost not actual newbies. Findings from lovemayfamilis just proved this but I witnessed many fake newbies like this so the findings don't surprise me at all.

Newbies with posts like I want to learn or I want to teach others only ring the alarm bell and make other forum members have more cautious thinking that they are fake newbies.

Newbies- Stop teaching when you need to learn.

From the findings as presented by a well-recognised and reputable member here speaks more volume, most newbies think they know it all, but from such, you would already know who they are. When a newbie posts and when an oldie posts, you will see the difference in tone and posting as well.

So far, I have seen posts of newbies trying to correct oldies and some go at length to make funny statements which does not show any sign of respect and some come to complain whenever their post get deleted by mod as a result of reports from members who see their post as awful to say. It is funny though that some crop of newbies exhibit attitude that shows they know the platform well enough to do whatever they want to do.

[TheUltraElite]

Unless you are an alt of some other farming account you would not be thinking about this. Genuine newbies even if they came here to make money would rather go through the grind, eventually grow in ranks and reach seniority from where they are welcome to campaigns.

So just spill the beans, whose alt are you coming from?

Even if you are not I suggest you try to engage in meaning discussions and consider telling the community know about your skills - if there are services you can provide. You will eventually become recognized and have more chances of getting into a campagin.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

One thing I discovered is that in the past, there used to be signature campaigns that at least Jr. Members could join. It wasn’t just about the earnings. I believe these campaigns encouraged newcomers to read more, research, write better posts, and participate in meaningful discussions.

This is at the discretion of the campaign managers together with the company they are advertising for, if they see needs be, then there is nothing to stop them from making use of jr members, as long as they are going to be selective and not abuse signature promotion by taking in spammers to their campaign.

This could be why some of the newbies are not that considered, some of them are not experienced enough in making up to the standard of the required quality post.

Do not just automatically accept any user that signs up to your campaign. Check their posts first. If they're all short sentences or unsubstantial or in very poor English then they're likely not going to change their habits. If every campaign only accepts and pays for users who have made fairly constructive posts then this will instantly clean up the forum as any poor posters will have to improve if they want to earn anything from a campaign.

And most importantly, this also is part of the reasons why higher account are most considered because a campaign manager could be held responsible for any indecent post made by their participant.

Consider only accepting higher-ranked accounts. Not only do lower-ranked members tend to make the most spam, they also have limited signature space for your advertisement. Full Members and above would be recommended, but if you want to pay Newbies then that's entirely up to you, just remember that you are responsible for the posts they make.

Many of the high-ranking members today probably had their spark from those early opportunities.

Things change over time, you may not expect the way the managers operate years ago to how they do today, moreover, we are not posting quality content because of the opportunity we serve to earn from this forum or signature campaign, instead, because of our passion for bitcoin, if the opportunity comes, then fine.