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August 14, 2025, 05:26:37 PM |
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Markets are big money big money don't move one place to another just like that it requires volatility and events. Make ur bets Also have look futures options contracts volume and data to see on where larger funds making bets on. One thing for sure trump buddies Will get rich again regardless of outcome. Trump have turned his political power into manipulation of markets for sure his own buddies knows the outcome and are well priced in on right bet. Also a lot retail buyers on defence stocks....well would be logical to collapse those and shake out retail to sell in loss.
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August 14, 2025, 06:21:10 PM |
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We don't know yet what will be the outcomes of this meeting, and no one could expect what should be. From outside, Trump and Putin willing to divide Ukranian resources, while Ukraine itself and allbits european allies refuse any agreement without their approval which i find it logic.
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August 14, 2025, 10:24:42 PM |
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What will happen? Same as the other times. Trump maybe will say both sides don't want a cease fire and nothing happens. Or Trump will try to get a deal with Putin that favors Russia a lot, and Ukraine will say no. The war will continues
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August 14, 2025, 10:36:09 PM |
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They will meet face to face with Putin for the first time in Trump's second presidency. Markets will react to the results based on the topics discussed there, and whether they will react is very difficult to predict. Nothing will end the war from this meeting.
Furthermore, the fact that they will meet in Alaska also has significance. Trump will want Putin to end the war, but does Trump truly want the war to end? The fact that they will meet in Alaska carries considerable symbolic significance.
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August 15, 2025, 01:38:49 AM |
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Markets are big money big money don't move one place to another just like that it requires volatility and events. Make ur bets Also have look futures options contracts volume and data to see on where larger funds making bets on. One thing for sure trump buddies Will get rich again regardless of outcome. Trump have turned his political power into manipulation of markets for sure his own buddies knows the outcome and are well priced in on right bet. Also a lot retail buyers on defence stocks....well would be logical to collapse those and shake out retail to sell in loss. Actually... your suggestion about "Trump's friends" is much more speculation than an fact, because I agree that some political decisions favor a some sectors of the economy, but their effects on markets must be much more complex and certainly "dispersed" between different sectors. But the reaction of stock markets, oil and defense assets has a direct and immediate (or precipitate) impact, something that, in my view, is also completely normal. And the idea about the money only circulates during volatility... is true! meetings like this have always generated speculation and rapid market movements. Paying close attention to volumes and options is a good way to make money if you can land a good entry. What about Bitcoin? I think if this meeting generates fear or tension in traditional markets, then investors will seek protection in decentralized assets and that will probably be good for Bitcoin. But if there's an agreement or sign of stability, I think they wuill migrate to traditional assets and leave BTC out. This, of course, will have a short-term impact (weeks or a few months at most).
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August 15, 2025, 01:41:51 AM |
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It's impossible to know what will happen after this meeting. Lately, dialogue regarding the war with Ukraine has been difficult. The United States and Russia have a long history of disputes; both are global superpowers, affecting the stock market and the global economy. Reaching an agreement that will benefit both is the most important issue, to avoid an escalation of the conflict, and even a full-scale war.
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For an outsider to make a bet as to the result of this meeting is no different from gambling. It will be based on sheer speculations, unfounded. An ordinary mortal who doesn't have reliable insider information doesn't have to make a bet on geopolitical maneuverings of powerful world leaders. You can save your life from unnecessary headaches and financial losses.
Bet on Bitcoin instead. None of them can stop it, suspend it, or kill it. Whatever secret or public agreements they'll come up with can't touch Bitcoin either.
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August 15, 2025, 04:27:38 AM |
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For an outsider to make a bet as to the result of this meeting is no different from gambling. It will be based on sheer speculations, unfounded. An ordinary mortal who doesn't have reliable insider information doesn't have to make a bet on geopolitical maneuverings of powerful world leaders. You can save your life from unnecessary headaches and financial losses.
Bet on Bitcoin instead. None of them can stop it, suspend it, or kill it. Whatever secret or public agreements they'll come up with can't touch Bitcoin either.
That's true, geopolitical maneuver like this usually only affect people who trade on futures with high leverage since they're the one that can get liquidated, If we hold spot, we can just ignore it, at the worst case scenario when bad outcome happen the price gonna dump for a while then recovers. Could be a good bet since market gonna be volatile and it opens up chance for massive profit but personally as bitcoin holders, i'm sure bitcoin's long term growth will be promising whatever happens.
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IF you look at the Polymarket odds, there is a 98% chance that the meeting actually takes place. But if you look at the odds of a ceasefire, its only at 33%. So markets are predicting that nothing concrete will come out of this meeting. Most likely it will take place, and there will be volatility, especially with the oil markets, but in the end most likely a deal won't be reached this time.
Either way, I think many traders will want to take profit going into the week, they dont know how the meeting will go and with the horrible PPI numbers we got today, it looks like the markets are exhausted for the next few weeks. Also August is a typical sideways month and usually its slow when people are taking vacations and there is little liquidity to begin with.
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August 15, 2025, 05:23:13 AM |
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Make ur bets Also have look futures options contracts volume and data to see on where larger funds making bets on.
Sure, future markets are a big one and people can make so much there only if they know what they're doing. But blindly trading there will cost you a fortune. It doesn't work for everyone. One thing for sure trump buddies Will get rich again regardless of outcome.
They've always been the winners of this market and every time that something is up, you'd see them that they're in profit, not just in millions or hundreds of it. But in billions!
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We don't know yet what will be the outcomes of this meeting, and no one could expect what should be. From outside, Trump and Putin willing to divide Ukranian resources, while Ukraine itself and allbits european allies refuse any agreement without their approval which i find it logic.
We don't know the outcome of this meeting but OP's message is right, this meeting can really affect the market. To my mind, we have to be sure to stick with news websites according the time of Anchorage, Alaska at 11:30 a.m. because news websites will try to update in live what's happening and once the negotiation ends, we have to read news very fast to understand what can be the outcome of their meetup. If they don't reach an agreement, I think that there is a chance the market will react negatively but this reaction can be short-lived but good enough to make a profit for that day. If there is a positive agreement, then the market will see a slight boost and if the war ends, then the bull market will be stronger than it is today.
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If as expected this meeting does take place I don’t expect anything too great to come out of it. Russia wants Ukraine to cede territory in order to end the war but I don’t think Ukraine wants to now so there is a stalemate. Somebody has to be submissive in this for any full ceasefire to work & neither seem willing at the moment. I don’t think Trump can do anything about it.
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Trump will most likely take a significant step by ending the war. This war needs to come to an end now. It’s interesting that the meeting is taking place in alaska  It is a critical meeting that could shape the future of the global trade order. The decisions to be made could have wide ranging impacts, from energy prices to supply chains, from the global role of the dollar to the balance of alliances among major powers..
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Trump will most likely take a significant step by ending the war. This war needs to come to an end now. It’s interesting that the meeting is taking place in alaska  It is a critical meeting that could shape the future of the global trade order. The decisions to be made could have wide ranging impacts, from energy prices to supply chains, from the global role of the dollar to the balance of alliances among major powers.. Trump has a simple way that this could very well end today if both sides agree, and I mean like literally right now. But that is a horrible deal for Ukraine, which I am sure they will not accept, plus why should they? The offer is simple, I do not know the names of the regions, but there are two regions that Russia is in possession, well they had marine base down at the sea 10+ years ago in a war before, and now they are getting two more regions, what was it, Luhansk or something and then donbaks or something, basically Russian side of the Ukraine, in order to put some more distance away from NATO, so Russia took those two regions. USA is saying, give Russia those, because Ukraine can't get it back, accept defeat, and the war will be over, Russia will stop attacking, and everything will go back to normal. But, why would Ukraine say "okay take our land, and stop fighting"?
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August 15, 2025, 04:11:47 PM |
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A bit like the boy who cried wolf, people are starting to consider Trumps threats and demands to be pretty shallow - you cannot trust a word that he says, because he has so often changed back in a very short time. Unless somehow he magically walks away with an agreement that Ukraine can accept, which is highly unlikely, then very little is going to happen with this meeting. Putin has no interest in ending the war, but Trump has been riling him up lately and this may be a way to show that Trump has little influence over him. Economically speaking everything is likely to be the same today as it is tomorrow, except the USA might become a little bit poorer if Trump gives away Alaskan resources in return for nothing, as he claimed he would previously.
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August 16, 2025, 04:44:36 AM |
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Trump will most likely take a significant step by ending the war. This war needs to come to an end now. It’s interesting that the meeting is taking place in alaska  It is a critical meeting that could shape the future of the global trade order. The decisions to be made could have wide ranging impacts, from energy prices to supply chains, from the global role of the dollar to the balance of alliances among major powers.. The deal was still not disclosed and I do think the impact will be huge once the deal getting announced. If the war ended, I bet the market gonna be lively and everybody gonna put their money into moderately risky asset again and there will be big inflows, bitcoin will be one of the asset they'd sought after. Hoping for the best outcome right now but it seems it's gonna be taking sometime before they announced the result.
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mindrust
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August 16, 2025, 05:21:41 AM |
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So far it looks like the meeting was nothing but a nothing burger.
“Many points were agreed to…”, “only a few details were left to be worked”, “we cannot disclose the details yet”, “There wouldn’t be a war if Trump was president.” (Putin confirms)
and most importantly:
“there is no deal until there is a deal”
Those quotes pretty much sums up the meeting.
It is nice that both USA and Russia are having a conversation at least but so far we don’t have anything real to end the war. Let’s see how the markets will react to that on Monday.
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August 18, 2025, 04:44:52 PM |
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If any of the markets big players are making a bet on statements by the same guy who said he will end their war with Russia on day one after he takes office, then they don't deserve the money they have and should lose it all pretty soon  In any case I personally think this is still a scam by NATO to try to establish a "ceasefire" (not peace) with Russia during summer since during hot months Russian forces advance a lot faster than during the cold months. The objective of this proxy war is still the same: to weaken Russia by prolonging the war. In other words they neither want the war to end nor do they want Russia to win! So when Russia is winning (takes more territories every day) they try to slow it down or even stop it temporarily, rebuild their proxy forces and resume it again. A ceasefire can do that, not peace. This is exactly why Putin disagreed with ceasefire and only agreed with peace. But of course since they're winning their demands are more "brutal" for NATO ie. demanding more territories, disarming Ukraine, full retreat of NATO, and other crazy stuff! So don't try to make any major economic decision based on this crazy show US and Russia are putting on. Nothing has changed, the uncertainty in the markets are also palpable.
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August 18, 2025, 04:58:21 PM |
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Indeed, some factors occur in real life that affect the current market, and everything is interconnected in investor behavior. That's how the market operates, and whether it's influenced by geopolitical events or just pure speculation, it has an impact. The best way I think is to observe previous events like that and examine what happened to the market where superpower leaders meet, and then see how the market ultimately ended up.
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August 18, 2025, 05:10:51 PM |
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What is making the market reach is US is not clear with his response to Putin. Because to Putin, he seem to be clear with his demands. Its going to be all out war and Ukraine will all be taken if there will be negotiations that will happen. And Trump will not like that. However is Trump says nothing clear response that Putin couldn't see positive result, there is nothing to talk about but war continues and this is what makes the markets move.
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