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September 29, 2025, 09:58:05 AM
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Obviously the casino's are strictly built for business and that is why the game systems gives the companies more advantages that the players whereas, the developers has already taken decisions via RNG. So players will always be left to try their lucks on catching up with the house edge as contenders.
Perhaps that advantage as the casino's house edge counters as privileges that gives the casino more better profiting positions to be compared to what those players who had only relied on luck before winning had profited in the long time.

I don't understand this thread. It's like saying water is wet. It seems so obvious and so predictable that there's no point in explaining or saying it.
The casinos are the winners, and do you know where you find that? From the constantly increasing number of casinos in the world and on the forum. If it weren't profitable, there wouldn't be so many casinos.

It is widely understood that gambling is a business, not a charitable activity. In fact, the majority of individuals who participate in casinos whether offline
or online tend to lose more often than they win.

The number of actual winners is relatively small, and upon closer observation, one can see that the funds used by casinos for payouts are essentially derived from the losses of other players.
This reflects the underlying system on which the gambling industry operates.

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September 29, 2025, 10:08:30 AM
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Everyone is complaining about losing More often than win, why in the other hands hardly you hear casino owners come and complain online about there loses. I have come across a thread that talks about The Slot Machine money Glitch how a glitch in machine made the Casino lose alot of money, but hardly we witnessed such cases. and lately many Casino or gambling site has surface both in and outside forum, now I wonder if Casino loss that much like gamblers because if they do gambling site would have been few. If you think am wrong you can prove me right.
Your last sentence makes me laugh. 😂 So the person who didn't see it your way should still prove you right? Grin

Fortunately, I'm in support of your view, in the end, casino is supreme here and the reason is not far-fetched. You can't imagine someone in full control of a thing to still be disfavour by that thing. The house owns the technology, system and algorithms, so what do you expect? You will have to race against luck to win in casinos, but they don't, they are the games themselves, so they let you win when they want and let you lose when they want.

However, what gamblers are after is not the control but being lucky, and if they are indeed lucky, they can win something good. The only time casinos may lose is the time of technical errors as you explained, other than that, they are always the undisputed winner in the industry.


I personally do not like to think casino games specifically allow one to win and push one to lose when it is the most convenient for the house, for example, when gamblers decide to wager more money than usual in a single dice roll or a hand on blackjack. It sounds rather dishonest and against of the idea that games are controlled by randomness and the edge of the house. Anything else beyond the edge and randomness could be considered as rigging.

That is why I am a firm believer of the importance of provable fairness in casinos, and if possible even to encourage the development of free source games, though the latter option is less common... Game providers like to be in control or their code.

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September 29, 2025, 10:15:37 AM
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What strikes many is the win. When a player wins and it's made public, it increases the casino's visibility and the desire of other users to try playing.
A mechanism is triggered that makes you think, "Well, if that player managed to win, why can't I?"
From that moment on, even just to try, you enter and play. Maybe it's a one-time play, maybe it's the start of an addiction.
There are many of these occasional players, and in any case, they should always be considered extra income for the casino, because 90% of the time they'll bet everything with the hope of winning.

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September 29, 2025, 11:47:05 AM
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Yes, and even that there's chances for those gamblers to win the numbers of gamblers that will going to lose will cover those amount for promotions, those winning money that gamblers manage to withdraw are being covered by those deposits coming from gamblers who lose their bets, simple logic as casino is a business and owners are aiming to be compensated before they start venturing they understand how the business works and how they could gain interest from the gamblers to use their platforms.

So automatically the Casino's don't even use their own money to cover up loses or for promos but use the money of losers to settle winners and it makes their business very easy cause since there's more losers than winners it means there would be more money for them to settle winners and even take their profits without their business being affected. This is the more reason why gamblers shouldn't spend recklessly while gambling cause they could get themselves bankrupt, make the Casino more richer and become poor.

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September 29, 2025, 12:38:04 PM
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Everyone is complaining about losing More often than win, why in the other hands hardly you hear casino owners come and complain online about there loses. I have come across a thread that talks about The Slot Machine money Glitch how a glitch in machine made the Casino lose alot of money, but hardly we witnessed such cases. and lately many Casino or gambling site has surface both in and outside forum, now I wonder if Casino loss that much like gamblers because if they do gambling site would have been few. If you think am wrong you can prove me right.
That's right, no casino authority has come online and said they are in huge losses. But gambling users come online to express their sorrow and share that they are in losses. Casino authorities are here to do business and they will do business. They will never be in loss and if they were in loss, no casino or gambling site could be run by the party. Generally, gamblers make profits or losses. If a gambler makes a profit, then somewhere else, another gambler will make a loss.
Gambling for me ehn is a business which focuses more on the transfer of money from from one hand to another(more like rotating profit and also loss)). That is why a person who win today mostly may encounter a very serious loss tomorrow. That is why as a gambler always have an open mind, meaning that when you win be happy about it but don't over depend on it and if you lose also accept it cos you know it could happenn....

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Yes, and even that there's chances for those gamblers to win the numbers of gamblers that will going to lose will cover those amount for promotions, those winning money that gamblers manage to withdraw are being covered by those deposits coming from gamblers who lose their bets, simple logic as casino is a business and owners are aiming to be compensated before they start venturing they understand how the business works and how they could gain interest from the gamblers to use their platforms.

So automatically the Casino's don't even use their own money to cover up loses or for promos but use the money of losers to settle winners and it makes their business very easy cause since there's more losers than winners it means there would be more money for them to settle winners and even take their profits without their business being affected. This is the more reason why gamblers shouldn't spend recklessly while gambling cause they could get themselves bankrupt, make the Casino more richer and become poor.

Though they need to invest their money as they need to show that there are available funds to make sure trust from the players will be established, but along the way, the money that they are using for promotions and those winning withdrawals, all those can be covered by the profits that they already earned from those gamblers who loses their money.

It's business and casino owners understand how to play with the gamblers and they mostly the winners onces they established everything from promitions to gained gambler's trust in using their platforms.

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So automatically the Casino's don't even use their own money to cover up loses or for promos but use the money of losers to settle winners and it makes their business very easy cause since there's more losers than winners it means there would be more money for them to settle winners and even take their profits without their business being affected. This is the more reason why gamblers shouldn't spend recklessly while gambling cause they could get themselves bankrupt, make the Casino more richer and become poor.
I have to be misunderstanding what you say, because that doesn't make much sense. It's all casino's own money they are paying. Money you lose to casino, can be used to pay winnings, but it's their money before that.

And obviously casinos need buffer money in case of someone blowing a bank. Especially from the start they would be taking a huge risk if that wasn't available to them. Because statistically someone always wins huge at some point.

Saying that they wouldn't use their own money is like saying retailers aren't using their own money to buy more stuff to sell, if they are using their revenue to buy more.

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September 29, 2025, 01:53:28 PM
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Obviously the casino's are strictly built for business and that is why the game systems gives the companies more advantages that the players whereas, the developers has already taken decisions via RNG. So players will always be left to try their lucks on catching up with the house edge as contenders.
Perhaps that advantage as the casino's house edge counters as privileges that gives the casino more better profiting positions to be compared to what those players who had only relied on luck before winning had profited in the long time.

I don't understand this thread. It's like saying water is wet. It seems so obvious and so predictable that there's no point in explaining or saying it.
The casinos are the winners, and do you know where you find that? From the constantly increasing number of casinos in the world and on the forum. If it weren't profitable, there wouldn't be so many casinos.

It is widely understood that gambling is a business, not a charitable activity. In fact, the majority of individuals who participate in casinos whether offline
or online tend to lose more often than they win.

The number of actual winners is relatively small, and upon closer observation, one can see that the funds used by casinos for payouts are essentially derived from the losses of other players.
This reflects the underlying system on which the gambling industry operates.
exactly, and as such there is business risk, we know that there are gamblers who manage to win a lot and take a lot of money away from the casino and this is taken into account by them.
As with any self-respecting activity, there is also the risk that there are some good players

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exactly, and as such there is business risk, we know that there are gamblers who manage to win a lot and take a lot of money away from the casino and this is taken into account by them.
As with any self-respecting activity, there is also the risk that there are some good players
Of course there are people who make profits while gambling on the casino, while there are others who also lose largely while gambling but the percentage of people who are making loses are much more than those who are making  profits from gambling, sometimes the casino also takes good records of these people and monitors their accounts closely to see if there would be any ill activities from their ends. Yes, lot of people complains about loses we should also remember there also quite majority of people who are making profits from the casino as well.

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October 01, 2025, 10:42:35 AM
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What strikes many is the win. When a player wins and it's made public, it increases the casino's visibility and the desire of other users to try playing.
A mechanism is triggered that makes you think, "Well, if that player managed to win, why can't I?"
From that moment on, even just to try, you enter and play. Maybe it's a one-time play, maybe it's the start of an addiction.
There are many of these occasional players, and in any case, they should always be considered extra income for the casino, because 90% of the time they'll bet everything with the hope of winning.

I hadn't thought of that, right? They do it this way with the SuperEnalotto too, they publish the jackpot or the winnings to attract more people to play.
smart and shrewd, I would never have thought of it, it seems that I don't have a mind suited to marketing

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October 01, 2025, 11:45:09 PM
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Some people may achieve big wins, but this is also a casino strategy to build player confidence in gambling, which encourages them to continue gambling, thus ensuring consistent profits for the casino.

This is normal, the casino makes the player feel that he is very important, the player will Continue going even if he loses, it is a fact that things will always be this way, I personally always play little, I am not one to bet large amounts of money due to all my obligations, but it is something that we must consider when making any move, that is why the smartest is the player who manages his money well.

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That's true. Casinos are businesses that aim to make a profit, so they're guaranteed to win more often than players. The casino's advantage is certainly greater than the player's, and this can't be changed. Players must understand that they only win when they're lucky.

Some people may achieve big wins, but this is also a casino strategy to build player confidence in gambling, which encourages them to continue gambling, thus ensuring consistent profits for the casino.

Yes, and everything is normal, the profits that some players obtain are previously already studied, a casino knows every move of the players, knows every move of what is lost, that is why it is a very careful business, those who win the most in a casino are its owners, and that is something that nobody can deny, whoever tells me that one as a player has the possibility of beating the casino is Practically crazy, that will not happen.

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Everyone is complaining about losing More often than win, why in the other hands hardly you hear casino owners come and complain online about there loses. I have come across a thread that talks about The Slot Machine money Glitch how a glitch in machine made the Casino lose alot of money, but hardly we witnessed such cases. and lately many Casino or gambling site has surface both in and outside forum, now I wonder if Casino loss that much like gamblers because if they do gambling site would have been few. If you think am wrong you can prove me right.
Your last sentence makes me laugh. 😂 So the person who didn't see it your way should still prove you right? Grin
If people that game have to gamble with this perspective in mind the rate of gambling addictions as a result of gamblers striving so hard to want to beat the casino when on the contrary the casino onwers are winners before the games even start. The only time casino onwers lose is when their site is hacked and billions of dollars stolen and when a glitch like the op has it happened.  The casinos knows where their big losses can come from and for that they make sure to strengthen their security system against any cracks.


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October 05, 2025, 04:44:11 PM
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Everyone is complaining about losing More often than win, why in the other hands hardly you hear casino owners come and complain online about there loses. I have come across a thread that talks about The Slot Machine money Glitch how a glitch in machine made the Casino lose alot of money, but hardly we witnessed such cases. and lately many Casino or gambling site has surface both in and outside forum, now I wonder if Casino loss that much like gamblers because if they do gambling site would have been few. If you think am wrong you can prove me right.
Your last sentence makes me laugh. 😂 So the person who didn't see it your way should still prove you right? Grin
If people that game have to gamble with this perspective in mind the rate of gambling addictions as a result of gamblers striving so hard to want to beat the casino when on the contrary the casino onwers are winners before the games even start. The only time casino onwers lose is when their site is hacked and billions of dollars stolen and when a glitch like the op has it happened.  The casinos knows where their big losses can come from and for that they make sure to strengthen their security system against any cracks.
Even if casinos lose during the time of hacking or security breach, they still do not lose eventually. It's either they cover up with the already gained successes or they quickly gain it back after a while. Either way, the casino's fate is secure, they are the house, so they are supreme here. However, what we are hoping for is not to drag the supremacy with them but for them to cut a little slice for us in some possible gains. This is why people gamble often because that is possible when they are lucky, so we are all relying on the luck to gain at times even as casinos gains more.

This understanding alone should help gamblers to be calm instead of believing they can hit it so big all the time, which can make them get anxious or desperate.

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Even if casinos lose during the time of hacking or security breach, they still do not lose eventually. It's either they cover up with the already gained successes or they quickly gain it back after a while. Either way, the casino's fate is secure, they are the house, so they are supreme here. However, what we are hoping for is not to drag the supremacy with them but for them to cut a little slice for us in some possible gains. This is why people gamble often because that is possible when they are lucky, so we are all relying on the luck to gain at times even as casinos gains more.

This understanding alone should help gamblers to be calm instead of believing they can hit it so big all the time, which can make them get anxious or desperate.
The gambling companies for sure can not lose it all even with a hack into their system, there was a a time in 2020 during the COVID-19 period when many sports leagues were temporarily shutdown to prevent spread of the virus, a time when gambling gains should have been affected since sports bettors would not be having much leagues to bet on but the local gambling platforms in my country still records billions in profit and I was astonished at that, which means they make thrice right now that there's normalcy across all leagues.


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October 05, 2025, 06:11:09 PM
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Even if casinos lose during the time of hacking or security breach, they still do not lose eventually. It's either they cover up with the already gained successes or they quickly gain it back after a while. Either way, the casino's fate is secure,
The actual fact is that the casino makes more money than we the gamblers, since the chances of winning is like 95% to 5%, so they have more  chances of winning than we the gamblers. And it's not just the casino, even in our society today, the business owners makes more money than those working as a salary earners, that their salary are fixed.
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they are the house, so they are supreme here. However, what we are hoping for is not to drag the supremacy with them but for them to cut a little slice for us in some possible gains.
It's a very good that you understand this fact, but the sad reality is that not everyone understands this, that's why you will see a gambler going all in, in his gambling habits which may likely leads to addiction, because they are too desperate to win or recover their losses thinking that it's by how much effort they put in they will make more money, without understanding the fact that you have to be very lucky before you may likely get a winning, if not it's constant losing since your chances of winning is very small when compared to the casino owners

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exactly, and as such there is business risk, we know that there are gamblers who manage to win a lot and take a lot of money away from the casino and this is taken into account by them.
As with any self-respecting activity, there is also the risk that there are some good players
That's right. In my opinion, the winnings received by players are definitely predetermined by the casino itself, and this is one of the casino's tricks to convince players to return to gambling, because the casino will likely take back their winnings, but periodically.
Those who win big are indeed lucky and don't return to gambling, but in reality, it is very likely that winning players will return to gambling again, which is a source of profit for the casino.

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No need, because that's not some kind of secret. Just look at how booming the gambling industry is right now and you’ll already know. A lot of people know you will lose more. Well, there are some exceptions, those who can’t accept their losses. They don’t admit it and even blame the casino for cheating. Hmmm, as a gambler myself, why do I keep playing even if I know I will just lose more? I don’t know, maybe there’s still a part of me hoping, or maybe it’s because it has become part of my routine already.

New casinos keep coming up everyday, that tells you that it's a profitable business...most bookies are adding lots of casino games to their options, this is done for them to recover and get back more profits..As gamblers we already know that we are playing a losing game but why do we still fund ourself playing..like you said, to some it has become a routine while to others they just do it to pass time

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exactly, and as such there is business risk, we know that there are gamblers who manage to win a lot and take a lot of money away from the casino and this is taken into account by them.
As with any self-respecting activity, there is also the risk that there are some good players
That's right. In my opinion, the winnings received by players are definitely predetermined by the casino itself, and this is one of the casino's tricks to convince players to return to gambling, because the casino will likely take back their winnings, but periodically.
Those who win big are indeed lucky and don't return to gambling, but in reality, it is very likely that winning players will return to gambling again, which is a source of profit for the casino.

Following you on that last statement, casino owners understand the emotions that they establsihed to those gamblers who thinks that they already mastered the right strategy to keep winning, that perspectives that they install inside the mind of a gambler will lead them to keep chasing for more wins, only to realize that they already hook in and along the way they will start experiencing losing streaks.

That's the time where casino owners will start collecting more deposits as gamblers will keep coming back trying to chase that loses and will just repeat that same mistake from to time till they realize that they already lose more than they can afford to let go.

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October 06, 2025, 12:39:19 PM
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exactly, and as such there is business risk, we know that there are gamblers who manage to win a lot and take a lot of money away from the casino and this is taken into account by them.
As with any self-respecting activity, there is also the risk that there are some good players
That's right. In my opinion, the winnings received by players are definitely predetermined by the casino itself, and this is one of the casino's tricks to convince players to return to gambling, because the casino will likely take back their winnings, but periodically.
Those who win big are indeed lucky and don't return to gambling, but in reality, it is very likely that winning players will return to gambling again, which is a source of profit for the casino.

Following you on that last statement, casino owners understand the emotions that they establsihed to those gamblers who thinks that they already mastered the right strategy to keep winning, that perspectives that they install inside the mind of a gambler will lead them to keep chasing for more wins, only to realize that they already hook in and along the way they will start experiencing losing streaks.

That's the time where casino owners will start collecting more deposits as gamblers will keep coming back trying to chase that loses and will just repeat that same mistake from to time till they realize that they already lose more than they can afford to let go.
The moment a person steps in the casino they already loss, this is why its important to have a specific spending when coming to casino, people wont realize that they are already putting so much money on the table, but because they are already focus on gambling, the house is already draining their pockets and the moment they know it, its already too late, and the gambler will panic, that moment is another win to the house, because its either he go home, or will try again to get the money, the house is always the winner, there are more loss than winning.

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