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October 06, 2025, 12:54:42 PM
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Everyone is complaining about losing More often than win, why in the other hands hardly you hear casino owners come and complain online about there loses. I have come across a thread that talks about The Slot Machine money Glitch how a glitch in machine made the Casino lose alot of money, but hardly we witnessed such cases. and lately many Casino or gambling site has surface both in and outside forum, now I wonder if Casino loss that much like gamblers because if they do gambling site would have been few. If you think am wrong you can prove me right.
The most important thing we need to understand is that casinos will always win, and gamblers will always lose. Ultimately, we often see and read complaints from gamblers rather than from casino owners, because that's the reality. Everyone may be aware of this, but they still gamble for various reasons, including myself, who still gambles despite understanding this.

In my opinion, casino owners will never lose if the casino is running as it should, unless the casino experiences machine problems that cause losses to the owner. But if calculated as a whole, perhaps these mistakes will not cause them a loss overall if accumulated, unless the Casino is new and is still in the stage of finding visitors to gamble.

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October 06, 2025, 01:28:06 PM
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No need, because that's not some kind of secret. Just look at how booming the gambling industry is right now and you’ll already know. A lot of people know you will lose more. Well, there are some exceptions, those who can’t accept their losses. They don’t admit it and even blame the casino for cheating. Hmmm, as a gambler myself, why do I keep playing even if I know I will just lose more? I don’t know, maybe there’s still a part of me hoping, or maybe it’s because it has become part of my routine already.

New casinos keep coming up everyday, that tells you that it's a profitable business...most bookies are adding lots of casino games to their options, this is done for them to recover and get back more profits..As gamblers we already know that we are playing a losing game but why do we still fund ourself playing..like you said, to some it has become a routine while to others they just do it to pass time
No matter how much we spend in the casino chasing our losses, we will still continue losing to the casino. I could remember when I was addicted, I gamble often without self control hoping to win the casino but the end was frustrating because I lost it all and became addicted.

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October 06, 2025, 02:53:46 PM
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It's natural for people to complain about losing, and casino owners are almost never heard complaining about losing. This is because a person is a player and can win or lose, but a casino owner is the game organizer. Casino owners never rely on luck because they design the system (often called the house edge) to always be in a profitable position in the long run. Therefore, the losses between a casino owner and a player are certainly very different, and it's clear that players suffer far greater losses.
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October 06, 2025, 02:58:34 PM
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exactly, and as such there is business risk, we know that there are gamblers who manage to win a lot and take a lot of money away from the casino and this is taken into account by them.
As with any self-respecting activity, there is also the risk that there are some good players
That's right. In my opinion, the winnings received by players are definitely predetermined by the casino itself, and this is one of the casino's tricks to convince players to return to gambling, because the casino will likely take back their winnings, but periodically.
Those who win big are indeed lucky and don't return to gambling, but in reality, it is very likely that winning players will return to gambling again, which is a source of profit for the casino.

Following you on that last statement, casino owners understand the emotions that they establsihed to those gamblers who thinks that they already mastered the right strategy to keep winning, that perspectives that they install inside the mind of a gambler will lead them to keep chasing for more wins, only to realize that they already hook in and along the way they will start experiencing losing streaks.

That's the time where casino owners will start collecting more deposits as gamblers will keep coming back trying to chase that loses and will just repeat that same mistake from to time till they realize that they already lose more than they can afford to let go.
The moment a person steps in the casino they already loss, this is why its important to have a specific spending when coming to casino, people wont realize that they are already putting so much money on the table, but because they are already focus on gambling, the house is already draining their pockets and the moment they know it, its already too late, and the gambler will panic, that moment is another win to the house, because its either he go home, or will try again to get the money, the house is always the winner, there are more loss than winning.
Real side of gambling that a lot of people overlook casinos are not built around luck or fairness alone they operate on calculated odds and psychology the idea that some players win big isn’t purely chance but part of the system that keeps the rest engaged every major win becomes a story that motivates others to keep playing believing that they can do the same what people don’t realize is that those winnings are part of a much larger plan the house designs everything around long term profit not short term generosity. Once players experience a win they get hooked by the feeling of control they start thinking they’ve figured out a pattern or strategy that will let them keep beating the system that’s where the casino’s psychological advantage takes hold it feeds the illusion of skill while the math behind the games ensures the house always gets its share over time when the losses start building up players chase them thinking one more bet will fix everything and that’s how the trap tightens slowly but surely.

Setting a strict spending limit is the only real defense against this the moment someone steps inside a casino they’re already entering a controlled environment designed to make them spend as much as possible lights sounds and even the absence of clocks keep players in the moment detached from reality once that emotional focus takes over rational thinking fades and that’s when the losses start piling up the house doesn’t need to trick anyone it just lets human psychology do the work. In the end gambling only works for entertainment not as a source of income those who walk in thinking they’ll win are already walking into a system where the odds are never in their favor it’s not about luck it’s about knowing when to stop.

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October 07, 2025, 04:18:40 AM
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Following you on that last statement, casino owners understand the emotions that they establsihed to those gamblers who thinks that they already mastered the right strategy to keep winning, that perspectives that they install inside the mind of a gambler will lead them to keep chasing for more wins, only to realize that they already hook in and along the way they will start experiencing losing streaks.

That's the time where casino owners will start collecting more deposits as gamblers will keep coming back trying to chase that loses and will just repeat that same mistake from to time till they realize that they already lose more than they can afford to let go.
It could be said that casinos do indeed poison the minds of their players, but they don't do it directly. Regardless, players will likely have the same reaction: seeking profit, which naturally leads to continuous gambling. If this happens, losses will naturally outweigh wins. And because of this reaction to the need to win, players are more likely to repeat the process even after experiencing losses. So, in my opinion, it's a given that the casino is the ultimate winner, and this is permanent.

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October 07, 2025, 05:09:52 AM
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So, in my opinion, it's a given that the casino is the ultimate winner, and this is permanent.

Casinos run a business, so it's normal to assume the casino always wins. However, the business is for profit. If you feel this only for the casino, then why do you continue gambling?

If you can't profit from the casino, then don't gamble. Because you understand the risks: "jackpot or bust." There's no other option but to make smart choices by controlling yourself and your emotions and staying consistent with your gambling limits, with doing this, at least you are able to minimize your losses.

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October 07, 2025, 05:25:07 AM
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Everyone is complaining about losing More often than win, why in the other hands hardly you hear casino owners come and complain online about there loses. I have come across a thread that talks about The Slot Machine money Glitch how a glitch in machine made the Casino lose alot of money, but hardly we witnessed such cases. and lately many Casino or gambling site has surface both in and outside forum, now I wonder if Casino loss that much like gamblers because if they do gambling site would have been few. If you think am wrong you can prove me right.
Definitely, casinos and bookies are always at advantage in this case because gambling is a game of luck and in most cases, lucks don’t fall in place everyday. There are awhole lot of reasons why the house is always at the advantage and player losing but I think I’ve seen a case where a casino owner came out to complain of how someone won 70m naira with a bet of 300 naira some years back and the complain might seem like a joke  but you never can tell how much pains the owner might be facing because I think he made mention of his intentions to run for an electoral position and him losing such amount of money might affect his ability to run for the election.

Casinos will always win because gamblers will always gamble and some gamble with the believe that someday, they will hit a reasonable amount of money and that thought alone keeps giving the casino some good edge over the players.
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October 07, 2025, 05:50:53 AM
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The moment a person steps in the casino they already loss, this is why its important to have a specific spending when coming to casino, people wont realize that they are already putting so much money on the table, but because they are already focus on gambling, the house is already draining their pockets and the moment they know it, its already too late, and the gambler will panic, that moment is another win to the house, because its either he go home, or will try again to get the money, the house is always the winner, there are more loss than winning.
This is a wrong assumption, stepping into a casino doesn't mean the person has loss. Don't forget that gambling is a game of chance, there is possibility that luck maybe on the person side and they end up with winning. Having a self control is what will really help here because some person may set a limit that they will only gamble with a certain amount but at the end of the day due to lack of self control they will end up an unanticipated amount of money.

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exactly, and as such there is business risk, we know that there are gamblers who manage to win a lot and take a lot of money away from the casino and this is taken into account by them.
As with any self-respecting activity, there is also the risk that there are some good players
That's right. In my opinion, the winnings received by players are definitely predetermined by the casino itself, and this is one of the casino's tricks to convince players to return to gambling, because the casino will likely take back their winnings, but periodically.
Those who win big are indeed lucky and don't return to gambling, but in reality, it is very likely that winning players will return to gambling again, which is a source of profit for the casino.

This "winning curse" especially affects those gamblers who, early on, won a large sum, after which all their internal barriers were broken and self-control was lost. Money ceases to have value; it becomes numbers on a screen that rapidly increase or decrease. Therefore, for many weak-willed gamblers, it's often better not to win at all at first, because that's the key the casino finds to unlocking their self-control.

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Everyone is complaining about losing More often than win, why in the other hands hardly you hear casino owners come and complain online about there loses. I have come across a thread that talks about The Slot Machine money Glitch how a glitch in machine made the Casino lose alot of money, but hardly we witnessed such cases. and lately many Casino or gambling site has surface both in and outside forum, now I wonder if Casino loss that much like gamblers because if they do gambling site would have been few. If you think am wrong you can prove me right.

No it wouldn't be few because nobody would launch a casino if it was a losing business. There would be no casinos at all. A gambler returns for fun hoping to win some and can go from pay check to pay check in theory. If a casino provider were to do the same just for fun knowing he would lose money every time, he wouldn't repeat the same mistake continuously just for the sake of having fun running a casino once in a while. Cheesy
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Gambling should be taken as a bit of fun that you can spend money on and have a tiny chance of getting something back. If you look at it as a form of entertainment and go into it with a fixed budget, which you stick to through self control - then there should be no issue there.

I wonder why most people are still making a big deal out of this, the truth is alot of people have not yet figured out what gambling is all about that is why they keep asking and bringing questions like this. Imagine if you're a retailer, you know after buying goods from the wholesalers when selling to the final consumer I'm sure that you would want to add sometime to the price so as to enable you get some profit, there's no way you will sell the goods with that same amount you bought it. So those casino owners are also in for the profit and there's no way they would make it 50-50 if they do it this way then, they stand to gain nothing.

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This "winning curse" especially affects those gamblers who, early on, won a large sum, after which all their internal barriers were broken and self-control was lost. Money ceases to have value; it becomes numbers on a screen that rapidly increase or decrease. Therefore, for many weak-willed gamblers, it's often better not to win at all at first, because that's the key the casino finds to unlocking their self-control.

The funny thing is that that's the best case scenario.

That is, if someone wins a large amount of money in the casino in their first few bets, that's the best that they will ever be, so they should just stop and take the win.

If they continue betting they will eventually lose it all.

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So, in my opinion, it's a given that the casino is the ultimate winner, and this is permanent.

Only if you consider that you lose money while gambling, not spend them. For example I seek entertainment from gambling. For me gambling is having fun, like watching a game and buying snack during it, or going to cinema and buying snack there. I am not losing money in gambling, I am paying for entertainment.

Or then we can say that anything, where you continue spending money, is the ultimate winner. Food producers are ultimate winners and consumers are ultimate losers, because they always feel hungry later, and buy more food after.

 
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So, in my opinion, it's a given that the casino is the ultimate winner, and this is permanent.

Only if you consider that you lose money while gambling, not spend them. For example I seek entertainment from gambling. For me gambling is having fun, like watching a game and buying snack during it, or going to cinema and buying snack there. I am not losing money in gambling, I am paying for entertainment.

Or then we can say that anything, where you continue spending money, is the ultimate winner. Food producers are ultimate winners and consumers are ultimate losers, because they always feel hungry later, and buy more food after.
We cannot sit down and eat fiat without using it to get what you want or to entertain ourselves. Which means that whatever, you use your money for cannot repay you back if it's not an investment or a business. Gambling is a means of entertainment therefore, one shouldn't expect anything in return. When you feel that it's a must for you to make profit, you are going to lose more.

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There is no business that does not want to make more profits, as their expenses are substantial for advertising, taxes, and other expenses. Gamblers, like customers, enjoy what they buy, and the owners profit from it.

No matter how clever you are at gambling, casino owners have designed their games to favor the house. Therefore, we can't beat gambling. Even if someone wins a significant amount of money, their business will continue because the winnings come from other people's losses, not from the casino.

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October 07, 2025, 10:28:17 AM
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So, in my opinion, it's a given that the casino is the ultimate winner, and this is permanent.
Only if you consider that you lose money while gambling, not spend them. For example I seek entertainment from gambling. For me gambling is having fun, like watching a game and buying snack during it, or going to cinema and buying snack there. I am not losing money in gambling, I am paying for entertainment.

Or then we can say that anything, where you continue spending money, is the ultimate winner. Food producers are ultimate winners and consumers are ultimate losers, because they always feel hungry later, and buy more food after.
We cannot sit down and eat fiat without using it to get what you want or to entertain ourselves. Which means that whatever, you use your money for cannot repay you back if it's not an investment or a business. Gambling is a means of entertainment therefore, one shouldn't expect anything in return. When you feel that it's a must for you to make profit, you are going to lose more.
If we have this mindset, we never feel like we've lost, and that's true. We gamble just for fun, not for profit. Even if we experience losses, that's a risk of the entertainment we get from the game. Winning is just a bonus.

First, we must understand and establish a goal for our gambling. We're aware of all the risks, but we still play anyway. So, there's no one to blame, and we can't assume anything about what happens. Gambling is entertainment, so there's no harm in continuing to think that way.

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October 07, 2025, 12:45:17 PM
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There is no business that does not want to make more profits, as their expenses are substantial for advertising, taxes, and other expenses. Gamblers, like customers, enjoy what they buy, and the owners profit from it.

No matter how clever you are at gambling, casino owners have designed their games to favor the house. Therefore, we can't beat gambling. Even if someone wins a significant amount of money, their business will continue because the winnings come from other people's losses, not from the casino.

The business model is so simple that it's hard to believe people still play it on the other side. It's precisely because of its simplicity that everyone loves casinos, because anyone with money is welcome. Even if they don't know how to do anything more than press a button on a screen, they'll find plenty of games to keep them entertained.
Until now, no computer game had been invented that was so cool that you had to press a single button and couldn't tear yourself away from it due to the excitement. Slots are exactly that kind of game. Although, of course, the main motivation is money.

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October 07, 2025, 01:48:34 PM
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The moment a person steps in the casino they already loss, this is why its important to have a specific spending when coming to casino, people wont realize that they are already putting so much money on the table, but because they are already focus on gambling, the house is already draining their pockets and the moment they know it, its already too late, and the gambler will panic, that moment is another win to the house, because its either he go home, or will try again to get the money, the house is always the winner, there are more loss than winning.
This is a wrong assumption, stepping into a casino doesn't mean the person has loss. Don't forget that gambling is a game of chance, there is possibility that luck maybe on the person side and they end up with winning. Having a self control is what will really help here because some person may set a limit that they will only gamble with a certain amount but at the end of the day due to lack of self control they will end up an unanticipated amount of money.
yes, in fact, many believe that going to a casino means you necessarily lose, but in reality this is not the case. I think that there is something also called luck, which can turn, both on the casino's side and on our side.
Obviously this makes things interesting for us, and that's why we play.

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October 07, 2025, 08:44:59 PM
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There are many new casinos that have become scams. I believe this business is very saturated. Every year new casinos appear, and even though these new casinos do a lot of marketing, in the end many of them don't survive. It's even sad because they don't even manage to operate for a year.

So I think the risk of creating and managing a casino is not very different from the risk of the people who are playing in it. People who play for entertainment, for example, don't play under pressure; losing won't make a big difference in their lives. While the guy who creates a casino is under pressure every day because he has operating costs that he needs to pay. He needs to generate profits to pay employees.

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First of all, I think that we rarely see casino owners complaining that they have lost users due to bugs in their games, and the main reason for this is that such bugs are very rare.
I will say here that it is not only because of bugs that casino owners lose, but in many cases due to careless marketing and management errors, many new casinos are facing huge losses and in many cases the casino has shut down. Moreover, the number of casino owners is limited, while the number of casino players is over a billion.

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