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August 21, 2025, 11:12:29 AM
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Smart parents plan properly(Proper finances, stable relationships etc) before bringing kids into this world in order to try and give them great lives while the dumb ones simply don't plan much and just go with the flow of things leaving everything to fate.

Sadly, most people are dumb parents while the minority are smart parents which will most likely never reverse in my opinion.

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August 21, 2025, 11:44:49 AM
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What title says,

unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?
My question is, what happens when we grow too old to take care of ourselves? In my opinion, instead of not having children at all, it’s wiser to have at least one. We should do our very best to give that child the best life we can afford. Then, once they come of age and are financially stable, we can consider adoption depending on our financial capacity at that time.

The main reason for this approach is to secure our future in old age. It would be worse if, after all the years of toiling while we were younger, we ended up with no one to look up to or rely on when we can no longer help ourselves.

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August 21, 2025, 01:24:43 PM
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Having kids, is a personal decision and there are certain factors that will determine or influences the choice to have kids.

Some people may not want to have kids for some reasons, which could range from; financial strength, health, and their emotional, mental ability to handle children.

Remember, it is not just about getting a woman pregnant or getting pregnant as a woman.

Their are questions every one should ask themselves and answer themselves honestly before considering having children.

It is not enough to have the financial ability, but being able to accept the responsibility that comes with it.
There are changes in lifestyle both for men and women. Before having children, the intending parents should be prepared to take the task that come with having kids. Because it is enormous, finance alone can not o the job.
Unless you want to have children just for the sake of it, and they can go ahead and raise themselves. By being their own guide, mentor and instructor.

The school can not do the raising of a child in a way the parents will be proud of.
Am saying economy alone is not enough to urge me to have a kid.
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August 21, 2025, 01:36:50 PM
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What title says,

unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?
Childbearing is not just about age; it is a responsibility that requires money, and if you are not fit to provide for a child, there is no need to bring anyone into this world. Give birth according to the money you have to provide for, and if the money is not there at all, there is no need to make plans for bearing children.

 The same applies to married people; the reason why we have birth control is so that married couples can make plans and manage their births. The reason for poverty is when people give birth to children that they can't even take care of; it just increases the rate of population, which exacerbates poverty.

Make some money for yourself before you think of having children, because when children are not being taken care of very well, they become problems for society.

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August 21, 2025, 04:34:04 PM
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My question is, what happens when we grow too old to take care of ourselves? In my opinion, instead of not having children at all, it’s wiser to have at least one. We should do our very best to give that child the best life we can afford. Then, once they come of age and are financially stable, we can consider adoption depending on our financial capacity at that time.

The main reason for this approach is to secure our future in old age. It would be worse if, after all the years of toiling while we were younger, we ended up with no one to look up to or rely on when we can no longer help ourselves.
Having one for care ourselves is surely not favourable because still it's mindset and depend on both what are they looking for currently too many those are surviving without having anyone because they feel they can care themselves, and they never need kids.

Changes are happening and peoples are facing serious issues just because of this now mindset are changing because peoples those can't afford they are not thinking to take risk with they are also not mentally feeling good about this here they are not having anything related to care. In many developed countries, they can afford, but their mindsets are not prepared for this so they are ignoring this but in developing countries there things are the lowest level, and they can't afford they are having terrible figures of increasing population.

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August 21, 2025, 05:19:04 PM
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Smart people plan properly before they have children but I know too many that things went hurrible wrong for after they bring kids into the world, if successful people can still go broke in the future then anything is bound to happen. If I am in a position to advice anyone here right now I would say make sure you have atleast a child, because if becoming successful is all you have in mind and that's all you keep chasing after you might realize that you've wasted so much time trying to become successful and still yet you haven't become successful. I am not voting for bringing kids into this world when you can't even take care of yourself, but having one won't take a ton on you compare to someone who is struggling and went ahead bringing multiple kids into this world.

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August 21, 2025, 05:41:49 PM
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It makes sense --- especially since poor people have children who will be a burden to them while supporting themselves is still difficult but we can't say that because there are still many people who are not rich but have many children.

For me having two children is enough because in the future I have to think about their future with higher costs especially when they go to school if for example there are more children the burden on parents will be even greater to support them.

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August 21, 2025, 06:09:27 PM
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What title says,

unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?

Having children is God's will. However, achieving financial freedom before having children is certainly everyone's dream, so that our children don't experience the same hardships we did.

And when we have children, even if our financial situation is unstable, we can't blame them for their birth or regret it. Instead, the presence of a child should motivate us to strive even harder for success. And no matter how tiring our efforts, we should still return home with a smile, even if we return home with failure. Always return home with a smile; family and children are the real antidote to the fatigue of life's journey. Make them believe that you will be able to guide them to a better future.

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August 21, 2025, 06:12:47 PM
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If such calculation would really work, people would never have babies. Imo, having a baby or not should not be valued from if I could effort  to have a baby or not. Poop people have more than 2 or 3 children and manage to survive. Some millionaires cant handle expenses on one child. You can still have a child and earn one minimum salary. It will be difficult to raise, but your child will love you anyway, if you have one minimum salary or 3x. If you dont earn a lot, it just means that you not buy new or top class accessories, toys, clothes.
It's not about just "surviving", it's about to live with "minimum needs", not comfortable nor luxury.

If the mother can't breastfeed due to unexpected situation, you must able to buy a good quality formula milk and drink based on the serving size. Don't reduce the serving size due to frugal as your excuse, also don't replace it with condensed milk.

As a human we need to eat enough protein, vegetables and fruits, remember "enough" not just having a small piece of chicken meat, a small serving vegetable, a piece of dragon fruit. But it should meet the minimum need.

Don't think like this "I will bring enough protein, vegetables and fruits to my wife and child, it's okay for me just to eat a big bowl of rice and small chicken", that's stupid. You're working, which mean you should be more healthy than them, if you eat like that, you will sick and can't go work, in the end it ruins everything.

If a person is as poor as church mouse, then that person should think thousand times before planning a baby. But if a person managed to get bills pays, isnt starving, have clothes, why then «low income» be a problem? How come in past, people that did not have anything, only garden with vegetables and hunting, managed to raise children? If money is the main issues in having baby or not having baby, I suggest to check all benefits that government give. Parents receive monthly child support money, after birth quite an amount. I havent checked, but maybe government also provide with food. In my country they give a huge pack of diapers when baby is born (heh, this is only for few months). I am 100% sure that there is government support, as they need to support their future voters Smiley

 
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August 21, 2025, 07:05:43 PM
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unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?

You are absolutely right, I agree with you. We live in a world where the rich don’t have children, while the poor have many. If I had a child, I would create a portfolio for them starting from infancy and invest in it every month. They need to have money for education or starting a business when they grow up.
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August 21, 2025, 07:38:46 PM
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Same, but as I keep working hard and make myself well off, it drives me away to have kids because I keep thinking how to make my life better.

In my opinion, the minimum salary before you can have a baby is making at least 3x of minimum salary in your country. 1x minimum salary for one person, so the other 2x for a spouse and a baby.

But, with such amount you can only live minimum, you can't enjoy your life because you keep thinking to save money for your kids needs in the future. Either you or your spouse will want the best for your kids, hence you can't save money when you have a family.

Example you have $20,000 and your kids will enter school, you have two options: public school or private school. Public school is free, private school have 3 tiers, the lowest tier you need to spend $5,000 that cover everything, middle tier cost you $15,000 and the highest tier cost you $30,000.

People will choose the middle tier because they can afford rather than thinking to grow their wealth.

Not many people said this, personally I think marriage is a big scam.
Children are blessings from God and don't be self centered because assuming your parent thought like this, they wouldn't have given birth to you and you wouldn't exist. Life is all about planning and staying positive.

Sometimes, having kids will motivate you to think outside the box and look for other means to increase your income because you already have a responsibility to take care of. If you feel that because of family responsibilities that you are scared of and refuse to get married, it means that you are not a man enough. One child is enough.

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August 21, 2025, 08:49:18 PM
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Smart parents plan properly(Proper finances, stable relationships etc) before bringing kids into this world in order to try and give them great lives while the dumb ones simply don't plan much and just go with the flow of things leaving everything to fate.

Sadly, most people are dumb parents while the minority are smart parents which will most likely never reverse in my opinion.
You're right. Couples should carefully think it through and plan before they start procreating. If they're not ready financially, they should work harder because raising a child can be quite expensive. Sadly, I live in a part of the world where most people don't take this into consideration. They give birth, and after that, they start looking for family members to assist in raising their kids. Sometimes these children don't get the proper love, care and attention, and they end up being a nuisance to the society.

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August 21, 2025, 11:11:39 PM
 #73

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unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?
Yeah your opinion and not mine, children are gifts from God and I have received mine and I'm grateful to God because I have my children to pass my legacy on. However, I agree with you to an extent though, anyone that isn't well off shouldn't be thinking about having kids because it will be cruel to bring children to the world to suffer. I made not have all the luxury in the world but I give the best to my kids and my kids are my biggest motivation to be successful at least for their future. Some people bring children to the world without any plans and with zero financial strength and they hope on family and friends to help out in raising their kids which is totally wrong. In summary I'd say that we shouldn't wait to be billionaires first before having children because what if you don't become a billionaire before you turn 80yrs? And sometimes kids are your biggest motivation too so when you are financial buoyant before they return.

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August 21, 2025, 11:56:13 PM
 #74

What title says,

unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?

Same for me. I don't have plan on having kids with the financial and economic conditions I'm experiencing now. Having kids is a lifetime commitment. Once you decided to have one, your only focus will only be how to give them a good future.

I won't force myself to have a kid even if the society demands it if my financial income is not enough to build a family. Some would disagree to my opinion but I'd rather become single in the future than bear a child and make him suffer.

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August 22, 2025, 01:29:50 AM
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Smart parents plan properly(Proper finances, stable relationships etc) before bringing kids into this world in order to try and give them great lives while the dumb ones simply don't plan much and just go with the flow of things leaving everything to fate.

Sadly, most people are dumb parents while the minority are smart parents which will most likely never reverse in my opinion.
It's the sad truth and here in our country, the teenage pregnancy is rampant and so, the kids grow with less provision and all they say that it's because of poverty. They don't have an experience on how to work and that's why they're forced into labor just to provide their kids some milk and other important needs. I think that blaming poverty has always been the reason for most of these mistakes that these people does. But, they don't look at how smart they are because it's their fault. They didn't used contraceptives and never have planned for their future. But they do change, once they've grown older and become more mature to make things right and understand things clearer.


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August 22, 2025, 02:27:50 AM
 #76

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unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?
I really appreciate your opinion, if viewed from an economic perspective, having children will absorb a lot of expenses for living expenses and education, especially if you have more than one child, it will require you to continue working hard to meet the family's living expenses. However, in terms of happiness, not all rich people can live a happy life, life will feel empty without the presence of children in the family.

In my opinion, true wealth is when you have children and I believe that God has entrusted the blessings of children to parents. I have seen how my parents struggled in raising me, they were never afraid of poverty even though they had to support themselves and 4 children, so there is no reason for me to break their lineage because they have taught me how to survive and live a life full of happiness even though from an economic perspective they are not very rich.

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August 22, 2025, 02:36:16 AM
 #77

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unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?

My kids all died.

I would have been better off not getting my wife pregnant.

Humanity is pretty much doomed.

So why make any kids anymore at all?


I really detest those that continuing their lineage means something in the long run.

Now if you like fucking and your spouse wants to have lots  of sex to make kids that's fine.

But kids like all of us are not import at all.

I say this because God whacks them with impunity.

The only people that understand what I am saying are those that had all their offspring  whacked .

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August 22, 2025, 03:47:53 AM
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 #78

What title says,

unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?
you dont need to be rich or be well off before having kids, you just need to have something doing that can be generating a steady income that may well feed you and also your family. if you want to be stingingly rich before having kids or even getting married am afraid you may never have none. the truth about life is that none of us knows when we will become rich, riches  might come when we are  young or when we are old, and if it comes when we are old then its of no use to us. except those wealth will be wiled to family members or donated to charity organization . those that wanted to be rich before getting married later regretted when it was too late because the business they where doing could fed for themselves and family but they neglected it thinking it was too small, only to see themselves getting old when getting married now becomes difficult even when they have the money.

the truth of the matter is that before making babies you need to plan yourself because the economy is getting harder by the day, if you dont plan well you might land yourself in an unwanted situation where you will think your kids are the reason for your backwardness why they are not. but when i talk about planning i dont mean that you must be that rich but at least be financially buoyant so that you will not feel regretful later run.


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August 22, 2025, 04:41:19 AM
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unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?

In this modern day economy?

Honestly though, I'd forget about it if I don't have a house, good salary, and stable income.

It's too expensive these days to start a family. University is also getting more expensive, so you need to stash some money on top of the daily expenses that keep rising exponentially.

In other words, if you can start family without financial problem, you're already well off person.

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August 22, 2025, 05:50:36 AM
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unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

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Children are needed, whether for family prosperity or for family hardship. Our country has a birth control policy that says no more than two children, one is better. If a family is economically prosperous, then there will be no problem in having two or three children because the family is quite prosperous. But in the case of families that are not economically prosperous, i.e., not economically prosperous, it is better to have one child. However, being childless is not desirable at all because children are definitely needed to bring diversity and beauty to the family.

 
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