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August 29, 2025, 09:32:33 PM
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Bitcoin buying shouldn't be subjective to the price at that time, since if we look at the time it may not be perfect for our buying but if when we have the right cash flow, we still have a higher chances of gaining since most times we have more up trend movement after we buy bitcoin.

Even if the price declined below the price we bought it, we only need to wait aome times to get a good chances to start at profits again so all that we need is to act accordingly with events at hand.

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August 29, 2025, 09:53:34 PM
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We can buy at peaks or lows, the result would be the same if we hodl right and don't fear the dips and such: everything will be good regardless.
the case is that we should know when to buy and when to sell, if we know the particular time to sell it will not be a problem to us because holding a Bitcoin or holding any cryptocurrency is like saving your capital for future purposes until the time you will sell, at point, as beginner the best time to sell bitcoin is when the price is high, and the best time to purchase bitcoin is when the price is on a dip, so I believe that bitcoin investment have to do with basic understanding,  and we should ensure that we purchase bitcoin when the price is low, this advice is strictly for people who has not invested before, but people who has invested before knows theirs ways

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August 29, 2025, 09:59:39 PM
Last edit: August 29, 2025, 10:16:02 PM by Stalker22
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The money comes from his company issuing shares and borrowing money, essentially allowing investors to leverage Bitcoin without holding the property.  This isnt a secret, and its how they have acquired over 600,000 BTC.  Its a calculated, leveraged bet on the long-term appreciation of Bitcoin, and so far, it has paid off spectacularly for them.  The reputation of his company is tied to this strategy, and continuing to buy, even on "lackluster" days,  is the way to communicate conviction to the market. And I also think that the buy-now-pay-later strategy is not something individuals should "follow".  He is a public company, we are not.

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August 29, 2025, 10:49:20 PM
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while strategy is admirable for continuing to buy bitcoin, we individuals should not be following strategy if they tend to buy bitcoin at its peak. now that bitcoin is declining now is the time to accumulate the most bitcoins as you can again.
Chasing the peak and the low is a mistake though. DCA has proven itself to be much more reliable and effective than most traders. Because of that I don't get what is wrong with doing this.  Smiley

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The money comes from his company issuing shares and borrowing money, essentially allowing investors to leverage Bitcoin without holding the property.  This isnt a secret, and its how they have acquired over 600,000 BTC.  Its a calculated, leveraged bet on the long-term appreciation of Bitcoin, and so far, it has paid off spectacularly for them.  The reputation of his company is tied to this strategy, and continuing to buy, even on "lackluster" days,  is the way to communicate conviction to the market. And I also think that the buy-now-pay-later strategy is not something individuals should "follow".  He is a public company, we are not.
People that don't understand the full details of his operation tend to overestimate the risk that his strategy has. Sure they do have plenty of debt, but they have also gained substantial capital through share dilution and that does not really pose a risk to Bitcoin. Strategy does have a good strategy.  Tongue
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August 30, 2025, 11:38:49 AM
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There is nothing wrong using any strategy to accumulate Bitcoin as long as your portfolio is growing but as a new investor you shouldn't be waiting for the dip before accumulating Bitcoin that is the strategy i won't advise any new investor to adopt.

Investos are of different accumulation stage don't follow because others are waiting for dip before accumulating and you fellow them to be waiting for dip, it could be that those investor has gotten to their accumulation stage and decide to be adding gradually to their portfolio during the dip time, for me using the DCA strategy will be good since you can be accumulating regularly without always waiting for for the dip before accumulating Bitcoin let the dip be an opportunity to accumulating more Bitcoin to your portfolio.

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August 30, 2025, 02:51:32 PM
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unlike most of us who tend to buy bitcoin during its dips, Michael Saylor has a different strategy. strategy buys over 3,000 bitcoins again despite bitcoin declining. but their purchases for this month actually is lackluster compared to their previous purchases during previous months.

This is very normal because we all want Bitcoin to invest at Bitcoin during the lower prices. Moreover, the strategies we always use the richest people. Using them, I try to do everything properly. But say in your life Saylor Bitcoin is the time of falling and then Bitcoin buy It is very normal to do it because he has a lot of money. Through which he is holding bitcoin day after day. And make a lot of money in the future. Even if we do not have too much money, we can invest in Bitcoin even with a very small amount of money. Because it is not necessary to follow any kind of strategy. That is why we should always change the mentality, this will improve us more.

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He can afford executing this strategy. I can't. That is the difference. When you have a big budget under your disposal, you can give yourself the luxury of taking higher risks and even gambling with your money. On the other hand, when your budget is limited, and you have to calculate every financial moves carefully in order to not lose what you have already accumulated, it's another story. Every few hundreds matter, and must be taken into consideration to maximize your earnings, so you can invest further to raise your income.

Once you reach the status of Michael Saylor, then you can stop following strategies, as money won't be an issue or challenge in your life anymore.

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The money comes from his company issuing shares and borrowing money, essentially allowing investors to leverage Bitcoin without holding the property.  This isnt a secret, and its how they have acquired over 600,000 BTC.  Its a calculated, leveraged bet on the long-term appreciation of Bitcoin, and so far, it has paid off spectacularly for them.  The reputation of his company is tied to this strategy, and continuing to buy, even on "lackluster" days,  is the way to communicate conviction to the market. And I also think that the buy-now-pay-later strategy is not something individuals should "follow".  He is a public company, we are not.


Ah yes, I actually do remember reading that a while back, it seems like a very savvy way to do it. Saylor is a smart dude. He was also right about Apple a long time ago and now look where he is today. I wonder where he is on the list of richest people in the world.

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Bitcoin lingering at 113k USD for some time, I can say that this is a stagnant top. It might go upwards from this after the recent drop. So any big company buying it will surely lead to smaller groups also buying it leading to an inorganic swelling of market price.

I would rather wait than buy. As far as listening to such groups, I would avoid that because we have seen how market has been manipulated by bigger fish in the past. Hence dont hurry and wait for the next big move.

 
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“I’m going to be buying the top forever. Bitcoin is the exit strategy,” the Strategy co-founder said in 2024.

knowing this strategy, do you still feel more compelled following strategy's bitcoin purchases?
He's the first popular Bitcoin investor that said that he will be holding Bitcoin FOREVER in one of his interviews, and if that's his strategy, we can't blame him, but I don't think that at some point, he will not sell those Bitcoins that he bought since 2020. I mean Blackrock and Ark Invest already sold some of their Bitcoins, and they'll buy again in the future that's for sure. As for Strategy, I don't when they will sell their Bitcoins.

He's lowkey shilling Bitcoin because the price of his stock $MSTR is tied with the price of Bitcoin, and if you will see the price increase of MSTR, it coincides with the price increase of Bitcoin when it reached $100,000. As for his strategy, I will never, never follow that kind of strategy because markets move in cycles, and the best thing to do for me is to maximize that cycle. Sell at near the peak, then do DCA during the bear market and it's succeeding years before the bull run happens again. Well, that's what Saylor's doing anyway. DCA

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Yeah, I totally agree with that take. Saylor’s approach sounds extreme when he says he’ll hold Bitcoin forever, but in reality, no one can deny that at some point even the biggest players consider taking profits. Like you mentioned, BlackRock and Ark have already done it, and they’ll definitely do it again when the timing is right. His public stance feels more like a way to keep confidence high, especially since MSTR’s stock price basically mirrors Bitcoin’s movements. Personally, I think your idea makes more sense,ride the cycles, sell close to the peak, and DCA back in during the downturn.
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Every strategy is bound to create a positive effect, so if you want to use a certain strategy when accumulating bitcoin, regardless if you buy at its peak or during its dips, as long as you find it more working and suitable on you as an investor, then buying regardless of its price still contributes to a bigger part of bitcoin accumulation.

However, following Saylor’s strategy is not actually something new for us, but it’s actually DCA wherein if you consistently buy at its peak price or even when the price is in crash, it only assures that in less time, you will accumulate a good amount of bitcoin in your portfolio. And that’s what is actually doing for the majority of the bitcoin investors these days.

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One of the ways I stack new Bitcoin is to hold some MSTR shares and let Saylor add to the Bitcoin per share (Bitcoin Yield).
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There are no problems with purchasing whenever you want, and if MSTR's strategy is buying at the top, then it's their strategy, but for us retail investors, we mostly want to take advantage of dips like this one.

Being consistent in investing is something to be proud of because it is challenging, especially if you are an individual.

I agree with you here, not every strategy works perfectly well for everybody; strategies vary as people choose the ones that best suit their current state of investment capacity. Big organisations that are well-to-do and have strategies that could warrant them to buy at any time, do so at their own will, while we, who are little earners, just go for what we can afford in buying the dip, because that is when we feel best to enter the market. After all, we know we could make a little profit from the little dip purchase we do, and it is beneficial at that level when being consistent. Although it is not as easy as we think but consistency and patience matter if we want to get good profit from the little purchases made.


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Every strategy is bound to create a positive effect, so if you want to use a certain strategy when accumulating bitcoin, regardless if you buy at its peak or during its dips, as long as you find it more working and suitable on you as an investor, then buying regardless of its price still contributes to a bigger part of bitcoin accumulation.

However, following Saylor’s strategy is not actually something new for us, but it’s actually DCA wherein if you consistently buy at its peak price or even when the price is in crash, it only assures that in less time, you will accumulate a good amount of bitcoin in your portfolio. And that’s what is actually doing for the majority of the bitcoin investors these days.

I guess people are confuse towards the situation happen since most of people accumulate the same as what MicroStrategy did because they are aiming HODL it for long term. So if they currently buy at the top then there's no problem with it since they could also buy more cheaper ones on their next accumulation. Its normal cycle especially if you do DCA and we can't avoid to make that happen since what matter the most for this kind of investment is consistency on their accumulation.

If they are aiming to trade their Bitcoin for short term then sure they should wait for the dip because if it happens they bought their coins at top for sure that there's huge chance that they gonna are going to lose on their trades.

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September 02, 2025, 08:34:56 AM
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One of the ways I stack new Bitcoin is to hold some MSTR shares and let Saylor add to the Bitcoin per share (Bitcoin Yield).

What do you mean by new BTC?
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September 02, 2025, 08:40:54 AM
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You clearly explained difference between long term and short term crypto investing. You are right that for long term investors using Dollar Cost Averaging means DCA buying at high price is not problem because consistency matters most. And this strategy does not eliminate all risks as prices can stay low for long time testing investor patience. In contrast for short term traders timing is crucial and buying at high price is major risk that can lead to losses.


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September 02, 2025, 01:03:56 PM
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One of the ways I stack new Bitcoin is to hold some MSTR shares and let Saylor add to the Bitcoin per share (Bitcoin Yield).

What do you mean by new BTC?

I mean new Bitcoin for me.  MSTR Bitcoin Yield is over 25% YTD.  That means Saylor is adding to the stash of each share I own.  He’s stacking for me.
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September 03, 2025, 05:18:57 PM
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Honestly, I think Michael Saylor has a very different reason why he keeps buying no matter the price. Maybe for him it’s more about showing confidence for his company and investors. But for us normal people, it doesn’t make sense to just copy that. I feel like it’s better to buy when the price is down so we can accumulate more. MicroStrategy can buy the top forever, but for small investors like me, it’s safer to be patient and wait for dips.
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September 04, 2025, 04:06:36 AM
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I just think in principle he’s DCAing weekly, as many individuals do, with some differences as a public corporation, of course.  For example, they’ve now conditioned the markets to expect weekly purchases.  If they took a month off, even for good reasons, investors and the media would freak.
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