What do you guys think is the best way to earn in this market?

[HawkTrader]

Not sure about the sentiment in the market right now especially the current massive sells happening. Seems lots of whales are taking profits even when the odds of a possible rate cut in september is high at the moment.

A lot of options am considering right now are really "hilarious":
1. Buying the dip and staking them
2. Sniping memcoins (highly risky and costly)
3. Buying and staking stablecoins until market show signs of bulishness

What do you think?

[markm]

Trade, in a "market maker" style.

Choose things in which you are able to see "dumps" as GOOD because you WANT to buy as many as possible as cheap as possible so any time anyone "dumps" onto your descending column of buy offers is a wonderful shower of bargain-priced product for you to put back onto the sell-side building up your ever-growing ascending column of sell offers.

Obviously this calls for picking pairs whose buy side and sell side are both something you don't mind accumulating more and more and more of year after year, decade after decade, things that if you end up owning massive amounts of them will be good because in your strong hands the more you have so far grabbed the less is left in the wild for anyone to "dump" and that of course you and your great-grandheirs will never "dump" because to dump means to sell to existing buy offers consuming those offers thus weakening the buy-side, whereas your approach to selling is of course to simply place on sale at higher price than the highest buy offer and wait however long it takes for someone to "take" your offer thus start consuming your ever-growing column of sell offers...


-MarkM-

[edroi]

Not sure about the sentiment in the market right now especially the current massive sells happening. Seems lots of whales are taking profits even when the odds of a possible rate cut in september is high at the moment.

A lot of options am considering right now are really "hilarious":
1. Buying the dip and staking them
2. Sniping memcoins (highly risky and costly)
3. Buying and staking stablecoins until market show signs of bulishness

What do you think?

right now the market feels like it’s mostly about patience... jumping on memecoins or chasing dips can be exciting but stressful so i’m thinking of a mix ( scalping for quick profits, buying coins at rare support levels & staking stablecoins while waiting for clearer bullish signals.. it feels like a balanced way to stay active without taking unnecessary risks.. it's not a financial advice ( always dyor & trade at your own risk )

[Charles-Tim]

1. Buying the dip and staking them

If the altcoins fall, the losses will be significantly more than the profit you will make from altcoins. I mean during the bear market, you need to be very careful. We may not be in bear market yet but we need to be careful, especially those altcoins. It could be a great mistake.

[adultcrypto]

Not sure about the sentiment in the market right now especially the current massive sells happening. Seems lots of whales are taking profits even when the odds of a possible rate cut in september is high at the moment.

A lot of options am considering right now are really "hilarious":
1. Buying the dip and staking them
2. Sniping memcoins (highly risky and costly)
3. Buying and staking stablecoins until market show signs of bulishness

What do you think?

My recommendation for this dip will be to split your investment funds into two equal parts and use one part to buy the established altcoins then the other part to buy bitcoin. I will not support buying memecoins or staking your money on centralized exchanges because of the risk associated with that, if anything happens, you lose your money 100%. I do not believe that we have reached the peak of this market cycle, so buying the dip is still a wonderful thing to do now.

[passwordnow]

Not sure about the sentiment in the market right now especially the current massive sells happening. Seems lots of whales are taking profits even when the odds of a possible rate cut in september is high at the moment.

A lot of options am considering right now are really "hilarious":
1. Buying the dip and staking them
2. Sniping memcoins (highly risky and costly)
3. Buying and staking stablecoins until market show signs of bulishness

What do you think?

1. This is fine as long as you know the risk of staking.
2. You said it, too risky but if you're used to it. You know what you are up to and the risk that it has got.
3. I'll choose this if I've got enough stablecoins and the APY does give me some satisfying money, I'll park my money there and wait for the actual bear market to appear and I'll start buying.

[DeathAngel]

Staking is not for me, too risky in my opinion with the threat of a third party controlling your coins. My advice is to just buy regularly and have a lot of patience to hold for many years. You will be handsomely rewarded for your patience in the future.

[Pandorak]

1. Buying the dip and staking them

This is a fairly viable strategy to use, but you must understand that prices can make lower lows or prices lower than before. If your goal is long-term, that's fine, you just need to do DCA.

2. Sniping memcoins (highly risky and costly)

Memecoins are indeed very risky because they rely solely on hype to drive up prices. People who enter the market have only one goal, to maximize their profits. So, if you sell too late, you'll end up holding a token with no utility, and the price is unlikely to return to the point where you bought it.

3. Buying and staking stablecoins until market show signs of bulishness

If your primary goal is comfort and peace of mind, this is a better option. Waiting is only done by those with extraordinary patience, making it worthwhile to wait for the right moment.

[uneng]

Buying Bitcoin and main altcoins to hold them on your personal wallet, which you are the only one who have access to. Another options involve too high risks which end not being worthy in the end, if we take the history of this market into consideration.

Remember many have already lost money staking money on third party platforms, or while investing in shady tokens, which are promoted as an opportunity to grow your funds x100 or x1000. The promises are always temptating, but they come with low chances of happening for real.

The most traditional and conservative investing methods are the best ones.

[danherbias07]

I don't like sniping memecoins. I'd rather look for a legit project than a coin made just for fun. Most of them are not successful. In fact, make it 90 percent or above that. Snipe a gem, not a memecoin.

Buying the dip and then staking? Ergh! No. Buying the dip and keeping it. Yeah, that sounds better for me.

Number 3 is almost the same as number 1.

Buy legit altcoins. The old schools that are still very alive and healthy. Wait for a sudden dip and take advantage of it. We don't need to use all our investment for it. Just enough to make profits when we sell them at a better price.

[Josefjix]

Staking is not for me, too risky in my opinion with the threat of a third party controlling your coins. My advice is to just buy regularly and have a lot of patience to hold for many years. You will be handsomely rewarded for your patience in the future.

There were less information about stolen funds, hacking the whole DeFi platform, before in the crypto space. Because every transactions were decentralized. Staking program came to expose users funds to many hacks that had occurred many times on decentralized finance platforms. It is risky doing that, afterall, the APR is way too low for tangible profits over a period of 2 year.

[fullfitlarry]

Not sure about the sentiment in the market right now especially the current massive sells happening. Seems lots of whales are taking profits even when the odds of a possible rate cut in september is high at the moment.

A lot of options am considering right now are really "hilarious":
1. Buying the dip and staking them
2. Sniping memcoins (highly risky and costly)
3. Buying and staking stablecoins until market show signs of bulishness

What do you think?

All of them, you can make money from those strategies. But it depends if you have time frame, like if you are in hurry then maybe number 2 is the best but there are risk involve obviously.

So the best is for us to have patience here in the market and knows that it's not a get rich quick scheme. You might get lucky on meme coins, but the timing should be perfect, entry/exit. Staking will take time for your money to grow, same with buying in the dip.

There are no once size fits all strategy.

[markm]

The most traditional and conservative investing methods are the best ones.

I am not sure that is true in crypto, unless maybe market-making is considered traditional and conservative and it is traditionaly carried out the way I have found to work so very well in crypto.

In particular I find the traditional idea of "stop loss" to be crazy, stupid, since what it amounts to is turning unrealised losses into realised losses.

One of the wonderful things about crypto is massive "dumps", which seem to be precisely what "stop loss" seems designed to prevent one from getting full advantage from.

I have to wonder too whether keeping one's assets off of trading platforms is considered traditional and conservative.

In crypto doing so has indeed been traditional and conservative and with good reason, but considering my experience even through earlier times when it seems the vast majority of trading venues were scams, fly by night "we got hacked" exit strategies planned from their start and so on and so on, I would certainly imagine that experienced traditional conservative people maybe even all the way back to the "Tai Pan" times chronicled in the novel "Tai Pan" might well have similarly found that the advantages of being already right there on the spot to be the immediate beneficiary of any movement in price can far far outweigh the "cost of doing business" dents in profits caused by the fly-by-nights and supposedly-got-hacked.

Maybe though part of the problem is semantic, to do with trying to differentiate "investors" from "traders", "investing" from "trading".

I get the impression some folk like to pretend that by failing to pay attention to one's "investments" one is thereby and deliberately somehow not a "trader".

But an "investor" does buy and intends to someday sell so sorry investors are traders just maybe slow and inattentive ones.

A great beauty of crypto is that it offers opportunities for small players to make a real difference with small amounts of capital.

Someday maybe it will become flooded-out with high-capital players trashing all those opportunities and forcing all the small players to just get driven back and forth between the pumps and dumps of the large players or to sit with the hugest things that become less and less volatile as they become more and more huge and institutionalised but currently there remain opportunities the large players still consider "beneath their notice", things to which if they succeed those large players are going to end up being the "Johnnie-come-lately"s, indeed things still so small that only small players can even buy in at a scale that to them is not seeming like buying a penny-worth at a time and having to wait between the times that a penny-worth can be bought without moving the price, as it were.

There are things still available in which even buying a few thousand bucks worth directly from the sell offers would significantly move the price, be perceived as a "pump".

Those are the kinds of things to look at if you are only looking to put less than that at a time into some things...

But as ever of course it is not a matter of taking risks on whatever latest wave of scams is fashionable but rather finding the ancient tried-and-true things the masses consider beneath their notice because not hyped and the big players find beneath their notice because unable at the present moment to absorb the sizes of trade they like to operate in... it is a matter of proportionate scale, finding a scale at which your size of operations can make a real difference so that you are in that context one of the movers-and-shakers...


-MarkM-

[wakier]

Buying at the current market time is indeed confusing whether the price will fall further or will increase again but what is certain is that if we want to buy at a market time like this, I think it is better to trading Spot and avoid futures for a while because it is feared that the market will reverse direction and if you decide to buy coins, don't immediately spend all your funds at once, just buy with 50% of your ownership and the 50% to be able to buy again when there is a sudden market decline but still do it gradually, for example 10% then 15% and so on until the last 50% is used up.

[markm]

The simple way to do that is to simply break up your input amount into a whole descending column of buy offers so the deeper the price falls the more of your offers get taken.

Then whichever of them do end up getting taken you can use the proceeds to build your ascending column of sell offers so again how many get taken depends on what happens.

Just be as sure as possible to descend low and high enough that price never falls off the bottom nor ascends high enough to rocket over the top of your columns and you are in business, gaining on one side or the other of the pair at each movement that is large enough to bite into your offers whether on the buy side or the sell side.

Once those offers are in place over the full span of volatility the more it moves the better regardless which way it moves.


-MarkM-

[uneng]

I am not sure that is true in crypto, unless maybe market-making is considered traditional and conservative and it is traditionaly carried out the way I have found to work so very well in crypto.

Yes, it sounds strange to talk about traditionalism and conservatism inside a volatile industry like the crypto one, as everything here seems pretty risky, but that was the way I found to differentiate Bitcoin and consolidated altcoins from its pairs. So, taking only crypto investments into consideration, Bitcoin would be the most conservative alternative for enthusiasts, as by taking its history into consideration, we can see the price is performing positively, despite the crashes and bearish seasons faced along the way.

If you want a "safe" crypto investment go for Bitcoin. If you want a more risky investment, go for consolidated altcoins. If you want to gamble with your money, go for tokens which promise fast and massive gains on short run.

[TastyChillySauce00]

I don't really think whales are taking profit. Every single one of them still holding, even if some whales are selling ETH, doesn't mean the market should follow it and for all I know it could be just them mitigating risk and so on, doesn't necessarily means the market will turn bearish.

Although I also holding good amount of stablecoin for staking, etc. I still hold on to the altcoins I'm holding prominently ETH right now since I just followed the narrative and hype that's going on.
If you're not sure, just choose bitcoin, you can be buying it anytime and the long term outlook will always be profitable since it's been that way for long. I do believe holding bitcoin still starkly outperforms staking.

[Webetcoins]

The simple way to do that is to simply break up your input amount into a whole descending column of buy offers so the deeper the price falls the more of your offers get taken.

Then whichever of them do end up getting taken you can use the proceeds to build your ascending column of sell offers so again how many get taken depends on what happens.

Just be as sure as possible to descend low and high enough that price never falls off the bottom nor ascends high enough to rocket over the top of your columns and you are in business, gaining on one side or the other of the pair at each movement that is large enough to bite into your offers whether on the buy side or the sell side.

Once those offers are in place over the full span of volatility the more it moves the better regardless which way it moves.

Not bad idea, could be turned into profit for sure. Not a lot of people make that kind of return of course, and it's clear that we are going to end up with results that are challenging at times, but if you follow a strict plan like this one, then there is a good chance you can profit.

To be fair, it's a bull market, we are going to go back up, just because we had a fall doesn't mean we are going to lose, so we should be careful but we can make some great return if we wait and the price recovers.

So falling for the buying at deep rates, could be something that can help and benefit us a lot. It should be what we are dealing with in most cases, and can't be changed all that much if we are not careful with what we are doing.

[gunhell16]

Not sure about the sentiment in the market right now especially the current massive sells happening. Seems lots of whales are taking profits even when the odds of a possible rate cut in september is high at the moment.

A lot of options am considering right now are really "hilarious":
1. Buying the dip and staking them
2. Sniping memcoins (highly risky and costly)
3. Buying and staking stablecoins until market show signs of bulishness

What do you think?

From the things you've mentioned, dude, you should do what you're comfortable with first. It's simple—if you're not comfortable with something, you shouldn't do it. That's just how it is.

Now, if you're asking for my opinion, I think that staking assets is a good thing to do, especially if you're doing it on a DEX or a protocol platform.

Just make sure to research the DEX platform you'll use thoroughly to see if it's reliable or not, and you should also be prepared for any bad things that might happen in the end.
And second, actual trading is still a good thing to do, especially spot trading.

[markm]

Not bad idea, could be turned into profit for sure. Not a lot of people make that kind of return of course, and it's clear that we are going to end up with results that are challenging at times, but if you follow a strict plan like this one, then there is a good chance you can profit.

To be fair, it's a bull market, we are going to go back up, just because we had a fall doesn't mean we are going to lose, so we should be careful but we can make some great return if we wait and the price recovers.

So falling for the buying at deep rates, could be something that can help and benefit us a lot. It should be what we are dealing with in most cases, and can't be changed all that much if we are not careful with what we are doing.

For a live example of the method in action follow https://freiexchange.com/market/IXC/BTC

For a useful comparison, a very very similar, maybe even better, coin but which is currently an example of how the method can sit idle for months at a time follow https://freiexchange.com/market/I0C/BTC

Don't just look at the past history, stick around and watch them for a few months or years.

Several times in the past their price has been brought up to about a U.S. dollar per coin but every time the exchange we are doing it on folded or claimed to have been hacked or even once just simply de-listed them because often exchanges lack the patience to sit through those months of sitting idle.

Each time we moved on to another exchange, starting from scratch, re-absorbing all the "stolen" coins, re-building from scratch the bitcoin buy-side since the whole exit plan of the exchanges that from the start planned to someday claim to have been hacked had always been to run off with all the actual bitcoins.

Usually the IXC and I0C ended up getting dumped back onto the market, which is why we learned to build the bottom end of the buy-side far far far more dense than the sell-side: to absorb dumps.

Even now we need to be aware dumps might still happen, because a few hundred thousand of both are probably in the hands of the Cryptopia liquidators and they have not committed to returning them to their rightful owners so it remains possible the liquidators might just dump them for a few bucks towards their own expenses, even though neither IXC nor I0C were among the wallets that supposedly got hacked.

(Evil way of doing things, all the coins whose wallets were not hacked ought to go right back to their rightful owners but that kind of legal theft is apparently completely legal in some jurisdictions in bankcruptcy cases; evidently the various coin accounts are not being treated as trust accounts thus are not being held inviolate immune to being liquidated to pay the company's debts.)

These two are canary in the goldmine case studies, study them!


-MarkM-