Why still plagiarize when there is AI?

[God Of Thunder]

I agree with you that some people plagiarize in order to earn merits. And majority of them end up sending their accounts to early graves.
Thinking of this in another dimension, it is recommended to investigate any newbie that is earning merits rapidly.
This could be a clue to catch newbie plagiarists. This does not mean that there are no newbies who earn merits genuinely.
There are many of them these days.

The newbies mostly plagiarize to earn merits, while some higher-ranked forum members may plagiarize to meet their minimum post limit for their signature campaign. But I don't think anyone actually plagiarizes, knowing they will get banned for that. Whoever plagiarizes thinks they can simply go with it, and no one would know they actually copied and pasted their posts.

Let's be honest. I also wondered how these people are earning merits, and I am not getting merits. What if I copied their posts and posted them? But soon enough, I realized that copying and pasting someone else's content is not allowed.

[notocactus]

The newbies mostly plagiarize to earn merits, while some higher-ranked forum members may plagiarize to meet their minimum post limit for their signature campaign.

A common reason is laziness.

If they are not lazy, they can rank up naturally by posting and waiting for merit naturally.
If they are not lazy, they can make posts in signature campaign naturally too and if they don't have time, they just leave a campaign, give that spot to another forum member.

Being lazy and trying to cheat is bad.

But I don't think anyone actually plagiarizes, knowing they will get banned for that.

They know, but they want to outsmart forum members and moderators. They only feel regretful when their accounts were banned by plagiarism.

[Findingnemo]

while some higher-ranked forum members may plagiarize to meet their minimum post limit for their signature campaign. But I don't think anyone actually plagiarizes, knowing they will get banned for that.

This happens when someone treats the signature campaign as job and we humans always have the habit of bypassing something and get the end results and same like that people who wants to complete their post quota but doesn't equipped with enough knowledge and skills will be caught doing that but it becomes rare since the merit system because they all know ranking up is not easy anymore.

And in some cases it could be a genuine mistake which is why we have second chances.

[Btcdeybodi]

I agree with you that some people plagiarize in order to earn merits. And majority of them end up sending their accounts to early graves.
Thinking of this in another dimension, it is recommended to investigate any newbie that is earning merits rapidly.
This could be a clue to catch newbie plagiarists. This does not mean that there are no newbies who earn merits genuinely.
There are many of them these days.

The newbies mostly plagiarize to earn merits, while some higher-ranked forum members may plagiarize to meet their minimum post limit for their signature campaign. But I don't think anyone actually plagiarizes, knowing they will get banned for that. Whoever plagiarizes thinks they can simply go with it, and no one would know they actually copied and pasted their posts.

In the perspective of a newbie plagiarizing, it is understandable because many newbies didn't read the rules of the forum before they start making posts because some people come to this forum with social media mentality of copying other people's contents without giving credits (such as attaching a link) to the originator. In the aspect of a high rank member getting involved in plagiarism, i will call it cowardice and inferiority complex for them to prefer other people's write ups better than the one they can write on their own knowing fully well the penalty that is attached to plagiarism.

Let's be honest. I also wondered how these people are earning merits, and I am not getting merits. What if I copied their posts and posted them? But soon enough, I realized that copying and pasting someone else's content is not allowed.

No one goes checking if a post is plagiarized before giving merit inasmuch as the post is merit worthy but one person i admire in that area is Lovesmayfamilis. She has her own unique ways of identifying a plagiarized post and a post written by the use of an AI so i give her hats off for such talent.

[God Of Thunder]

A common reason is laziness.

If they are not lazy, they can rank up naturally by posting and waiting for merit naturally.
If they are not lazy, they can make posts in signature campaign naturally too and if they don't have time, they just leave a campaign, give that spot to another forum member.

Being lazy and trying to cheat is bad.

Yep. Laziness is another reason people plagiarize. Some people want to do everything too easily without making any effort. Most newbies copy and paste because they don't know which post will help them earn merits and which one won't. The higher-ranked accounts mostly plagiarize because of their laziness. I believe the laziness comes when people operate more than one account. If you are making around $300 a month from the forum by participating in signature campaigns, you have to spend a few hours a day on the forum. But if someone has to handle multiple accounts and meet the requirement of signature campaign, they may end up copy pasting contents.

[notocactus]

Yep. Laziness is another reason people plagiarize. Some people want to do everything too easily without making any effort. Most newbies copy and paste because they don't know which post will help them earn merits and which one won't. The higher-ranked accounts mostly plagiarize because of their laziness. I believe the laziness comes when people operate more than one account. If you are making around $300 a month from the forum by participating in signature campaigns, you have to spend a few hours a day on the forum. But if someone has to handle multiple accounts and meet the requirement of signature campaign, they may end up copy pasting contents.

Many reported Plagiarists have suspicious merit transactions and if you roll the picture up and down, you can see accounts with merit exchanging transactions, you put them into your watching list as sooner or later, they will turn to plagiarists.

To be clear, watching list does not mean you put them into your radar, but you can simply occasionally check them, and can see their plagiarism works. Exchanging merit is another clear signal of their laziness while as said laziness is root cause of copying and pasting contents but hiding sources.

They can not hide their merit exchanges with each other, and can not hide exchange deals in their low quality posts. Even they try to write long OPs, long posts, it can not change their merit exchanges to non exchanges at all. Long posts don't equal to quality posts and it's clearly that lazy and shitposters can not write quality posts by their own.

[348Judah]

Anyone who have the attributes of the use of AI is likely to be involved in plagiarism, while the worst part of it is that the forum does not regard ignorance about one not being informed about plagiarism, the act accordingly by giving a ban, also, for the experienced ones among us, to identify a content that is most likely going to be a copy and paste article is very easy, because when you start reading, you would have sensed if the writer is making a personalized kind of content or a general one without even engaging the use of a plagiarism checker at first.

[Ultegra134]

I think otherwise; probably those who used AI got other tools that humanize texts well, and unfortunately, there are a lot of them. Because of this, the number of those caught decreased. Without expecting it, we taught spammers AI how to write posts so that they are undetectable. Yes, AI is easy for everyone, but there are many tricks on the Internet on how to work with AI and not get caught. I think fans of this tool will definitely use such methods. Those who simply copy texts from the Internet during such technologies as AI, one can say, are at the lowest level of development and laziness, and it is probably not worth expecting that they will be able to extract something from the forum. Although the ban on plagiarism in our time is considered for each person personally.

I just now noticed that you had replied to me. I 100% agree with you, but I believe it's both. There's no way the AI Report Thread doesn't have an impact on AI usage, I kept seeing full copy-pasted AI posts all the time, the number of those posts has dramatically decreased. On the other hand though, I am seeing a few users/posts that look like AI, but aren't detected as such, and you can't accuse them without solid evidence. Certainly, spammers have gone smarter and are trying ways to evade being spotted, it doesn't take much, just a simple Google Search, and numerous results of humanizers and re-writing software will appear.

[God Of Thunder]

Exchanging merit is another clear signal of their laziness while as said laziness is root cause of copying and pasting contents but hiding sources.

They can not hide their merit exchanges with each other, and can not hide exchange deals in their low quality posts. Even they try to write long OPs, long posts, it can not change their merit exchanges to non exchanges at all. Long posts don't equal to quality posts and it's clearly that lazy and shitposters can not write quality posts by their own.

If you talk about merit exchange, I have been witnessing this for over a year now in my local thread. I have warned them a couple of times in my post; they stopped participating in our local thread. Now they exchange merits on other boards such as speculation board where they post in mega threads like buy buy buy, sell sell sell. Also, JJG is their main merit source.

I know a lot of people criticized JJG before, so I don't want to talk about that. I know at least half of a dozen members from my local who exchange merits between a closed circle and trying hard to rank up as soon as they can.

[nutildah]

Certainly, spammers have gone smarter and are trying ways to evade being spotted, it doesn't take much, just a simple Google Search, and numerous results of humanizers and re-writing software will appear.

If we keep making it harder for the AI spammers to not get caught, it will soon take less time to just write a post from scratch than it does to type a prompt into ChatGPT and "humanize" the text to make it undetectable. The main reason people use AI for posts (or plagiarize) is because they are lazy. So if its no longer time efficient, they might stop doing it. We can only hope, lol.

[Ultegra134]

If we keep making it harder for the AI spammers to not get caught, it will soon take less time to just write a post from scratch than it does to type a prompt into ChatGPT and "humanize" the text to make it undetectable. The main reason people use AI for posts (or plagiarize) is because they are lazy. So if its no longer time efficient, they might stop doing it. We can only hope, lol.

Yeah, I mean, going through ChatGPT to write the initial post, then to a humanizer to make it undetectable and to make it look like a human wrote it is already a hassle for someone like you and me. However, from my perspective, those doing it either have nothing valuable to say, can't express their opinion or have zero knowledge on the subject, or their English is so poor that they simply can't write it themselves and be readeable for other users, or both. Depending on the thread/post, it doesn't require more than a few minutes to write one from scratch, but what appears like too much of a hassle for us, isn't for them.

[JiiBs]

I thought that the reason why people were plagiarizing in the past was because of the lack of research tools and platform. Now that even google has integrated AI, research shouldn't be difficult and the rate of plagiarism is supposed to reduce drastically.
Why is there still plagiarism?

Isn't the use of AI synonymous to plagiarism, are you the one that wrote what was there being copied or do you take your time in referencing that the content was AI the same way plagiarism was done.

Synonymous but not same. From what the OP said there, it could be used as a tool for studies. That being, having several ways to understand a thing and that would require you having to read and read again. We know how some contents can come with some technical or terminologies that would be unfamiliar to the reader or how some phrases just wouldn’t make any sense to you… well, these are places where you could request AI to simplify or put in simple terms or beginner level for you to understand.

That doesn’t mean when AI does this, you copy and paste on the forum, no. If you do that, then you have plagiarized all the same. What ought to be your line of action is, since you now understand the context of what is being discussed, you could be able to contribute based on your own understanding and it wouldn’t have anything to do with copying what AI generated before.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

Synonymous but not same. From what the OP said there, it could be used as a tool for studies

AI can be used for many purposes including study, I agree.

If you use AI for making posts, and get money from your posts (assuming you are joining in a signature campaign and working for a company to shill their brand, as well as there is term in their signature campaign against plagiarism and AI), I think your posting style like this is unacceptable.

No company, no campaign manager tolerates that posting style, not yet about how forum community react to this.

Another example is using AI for studying, it's good but if you use AI to write your homework, your thesis, it's not allowed by your professor or university.

[Ultegra134]

AI can be used for many purposes including study, I agree.

If you use AI for making posts, and get money from your posts (assuming you are joining in a signature campaign and working for a company to shill their brand, as well as there is term in their signature campaign against plagiarism and AI), I think your posting style like this is unacceptable.

No company, no campaign manager tolerates that posting style, not yet about how forum community react to this.

Another example is using AI for studying, it's good but if you use AI to write your homework, your thesis, it's not allowed by your professor or university.

We're a public forum, open to discussions and any kind of questions. We're here to communicate with others, not talk to a bot with an automated AI reply. Regardless of you being in a signature campaign or not, you shouldn't use AI to write your posts. We don't want to speak to ChatGPT, but a real person who will share his opinion, not AI's. It's a great tool and can assist you in many projects, significantly reducing the required time, but you should be responsible on how you're using it. For instance, I used it to find sources for my thesis, something which would take hours to find something appropriate if I were to search through Google Scholar or Sciencedirect.

[SamReomo]

It might be out of topic but AI is reaching peaks of intelligence in short time, those days are gone when there was only ChatGpt, now there are so many AI models can that perform good at certain tasks. The day isn't far when it will be very tough or almost impossible to differentiate AI generated content from human written ones.

The open-source LLM models like Qwen, and Deepseek could be used by the negative minded people to train their those models their own way and those models are fully open-source and uncensored.  I know the AI won't be able to replace human written text because each human has their own opinion along with their knowledge that they have but still it poses some risk.

[lovesmayfamilis]

We're a public forum, open to discussions and any kind of questions. We're here to communicate with others, not talk to a bot with an automated AI reply. Regardless of you being in a signature campaign or not, you shouldn't use AI to write your posts. We don't want to speak to ChatGPT, but a real person who will share his opinion, not AI's. It's a great tool and can assist you in many projects, significantly reducing the required time, but you should be responsible on how you're using it. For instance, I used it to find sources for my thesis, something which would take hours to find something appropriate if I were to search through Google Scholar or Sciencedirect.

That's right, I also support your position. Communication with real people in our time should be very valuable. Unfortunately, not all people who come to the forum agree with this; they perceive the forum as a "cash cow" that owes them. What kind of communication can we talk about if we see a thousand replies paraphrased from other users, repeating the same thoughts? This is only a semblance of communication; however, to stoop to responding to bots' posts goes beyond all bounds. Fortunately, we have the right to choose; when we see that the answers in the topic resemble dry machine speech or some incoherence, we can complain to the moderators, who do an excellent job of removing such garbage.