People of Kiev, please move West, out of Kiev.

[BADecker]

The recent drone and missile attacks on Kiev (yesterday) reportedly killed at least 15 people.

If Zelensky isn't going to surrender, expect more destruction in Kiev. If Oreshnik is used by Russia, the whole city of Kiev will become a mass of burning rubble.

Move West, into little cities that Russia has no reason to attack. Stay in Kiev and risk your life and the lives of your loved ones who remain there with you.

You are free to move. In America, everybody recognizes the saying by Patrick Henry, "Give me liberty or give me death." Stay in Kiev, and it will be death. If you deside to stay, I admire your dedication (dead-ication).

[Vod]

Move West, into little cities that Russia has no reason to attack. Stay in Kiev and risk your life and the lives of your loved ones who remain there with you.

I don't think the Ukrainians are as cowardly as you god fearing people. 

[BADecker]

^^^ God didn't place us here to die. Death is our choice, by not accepting Jesus-power. If death is fast, we might be lucky. Dying, itself, isn't so bad. Let's hope we are prepared for the Judgement.

It seems that most people struggle to stay alive a little longer.

[Vod]

It seems that most people struggle to stay alive a little longer.

If the eternity is slavery worshipping a vengeful god, I would stay alive as long as possible too.

[BADecker]

It seems that most people struggle to stay alive a little longer.

If the eternity is slavery worshipping a vengeful god, I would stay alive as long as possible too.

I think I would agree with you on that.

God gave us our life and the freedom to do what we want. But He also gave us the law, because things work according to laws. Jump out of an airplane at 30,000 feet, without a parachute, and the laws suggest what will happen when we hit the ground.

God is wonderful and Good. If we are dumb enough to ignore Him, we receive His vengeance through our own choice. Often, He even extends life of His enemies because He loves them and doesn't want anything bad to happen to them.

[DeathAngel]

Ukrainian people are some of the most brave in the world. They will not flee, they will fight to the death if they have to. There will be a strong resistance in Kyiv so I do not envisage Russia full on attacking any time soon. This war needs to end though, far too many lived lost on both sides. There must be peace soon surely, this just can not continue.

[Hispo]

Ukrainian people are some of the most brave in the world. They will not flee, they will fight to the death if they have to. There will be a strong resistance in Kyiv so I do not envisage Russia full on attacking any time soon. This war needs to end though, far too many lived lost on both sides. There must be peace soon surely, this just can not continue.

I believe people from Ukraine actually have some restrictions on theor freedom to freely move to the west of the country, though.
If I remember correctly, both children and women can in theory more to any country of Europe for the sake of their own protection and well-being, however, men in military age are not allowed by the very same government of Ukraine to flee from Kiev, that is due to the need they may have in the future for more military units to keep the Russian invaders away from the capital.

So realistically, even if men from Kiev wanted to move away from there, they could not do it. Which is pretty disturbing and sad, civilians should not be involved in conflicts or face death if they are not willing to join the military, in that sense United States is ways more advanced than Ukraine.

[paxmao]

People of Ruzzia, leave Ruzzia. You may be drafted or killed by an Ukranian drone. Particularly if you work in anything related to oil and gas.

[Princess Leah]

 Thankful to God that I'm in a location where there's peace, I don't have to worry about running around looking for bomb shelters or refuge homes where I'll be safe, nor even worry about my loved ones whereabouts. My heart goes to the displaced people in that region and I pray they find peace, hopefully the chaos there would come to an end and everyone would mourn their diseased then go back to their normal activities before the war.

 My thoughts was that after Trump had a meeting with both parties president "Putin and Zelensky" that every thing would fall back in place and there would be peace again but here we're talking about "fleeing into cities that Russia has no reason to attack", can't they just come to an agreement and save innocent people from losing their life?

[Alvin_talk]

The recent drone and missile attacks on Kiev (yesterday) reportedly killed at least 15 people.

If Zelensky isn't going to surrender, expect more destruction in Kiev. If Oreshnik is used by Russia, the whole city of Kiev will become a mass of burning rubble.

Move West, into little cities that Russia has no reason to attack. Stay in Kiev and risk your life and the lives of your loved ones who remain there with you.

You are free to move. In America, everybody recognizes the saying by Patrick Henry, "Give me liberty or give me death." Stay in Kiev, and it will be death. If you deside to stay, I admire your dedication (dead-ication).

War brings about loss of property
War brings about hunger
War causes depression
Most importantly, war causes loss of human lives.

My humble suggestion is that the root causes of this war should be addressed so there can stability and peace in the region again, running away can't solve the issue on ground. God bless Ukraine, God bless Russia

[hellflame]

Hmm listening to noise coming out of both the EU and Russia I would imagine the people of Kiev are far safer from the russians than are the people of one or three major european cities right now. Also if I lived in Iran I would be considering pitching my tent far away from that major city that does the "nook" research. Not tehran ..the other one I forget its name.

[WillyAp]

That war is as necessary as the plague.

Just 2 snippets show what stakes there are:

The Telegraph has found that Chinese companies directly supplied parts and materials worth at least £47m to Russian firms sanctioned for producing drones, from 2023 to 2024, a period when Moscow was building large-scale logistics infrastructure for its domestic drone programme.

Nearly a quarter of the value of those shipments – £10.7m – were sent to sanctioned Russian firms linked to the production of Iranian-designed Shahed kamikaze drones, operating in a special economic zone (SEZ) in the town of Alabuga, according to Telegraph analysis of global trade records compiled by Sayari, a risk and data intelligence company.

Goods directly exported by China to Russia included aircraft engines, microchips, metal alloys, camera lenses, fibreglass, emulsion binders for fibreglass, and carbon fibre yarns – all key components to produce the drones that wreak nightly havoc on Ukraine.

Plus a little extra:

In early July, China’s foreign minister Wang Yi said privately to European officials that it simply could not afford for Russia to lose the war as it would risk allowing the US to turn its full attention to China.

I'm pretty sure the Ukrainian Drohne Production uses boards from China.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/09/03/how-china-is-secretly-arming-russia/

[BADecker]

As we have seen over the last week or two, Kiev has been bombed by Russia, with less and less caution to not harm civilians. It doesn't matter if Russia had a reason for lack of care... like Ukraine troops hiding among civilians... or civilians helping to manufacture Ukrainian drones... the point was that many people 'saw' it coming.

[Jet Cash]

The world won't forgive the |Eton/Oxford elitist - Boris Johnson - for blocking the peace deal, and killing Ukrainians and destroying their country. It saddens me that brave and courageous soldiers should be killed instead of rebuilding their country. The only way forward is for Ukraine to become a neutral country, rather like Austria after the second world war. Confiscate and repatriate all the aid that has been stolen by Zelensky and his associates. That could make a small contribution to the restoration of the remnants of the country.

[BADecker]

The world won't forgive the |Eton/Oxford elitist - Boris Johnson - for blocking the peace deal, and killing Ukrainians and destroying their country. It saddens me that brave and courageous soldiers should be killed instead of rebuilding their country. The only way forward is for Ukraine to become a neutral country, rather like Austria after the second world war. Confiscate and repatriate all the aid that has been stolen by Zelensky and his associates. That could make a small contribution to the restoration of the remnants of the country.

If an honest vote were taken of the Ukrainian people - including the ones who have fled the war - more of them would side with Russia than with the EU.

[WillyAp]

If an honest vote were taken of the Ukrainian people - including the ones who have fled the war - more of them would side with Russia than with the EU.

Most of the people fled to the EU.
That makes your statement a joke.

[BADecker]

If an honest vote were taken of the Ukrainian people - including the ones who have fled the war - more of them would side with Russia than with the EU.

Most of the people fled to the EU.
That makes your statement a joke.

People going to the EU has nothing to do with where their hearts and their vote lie. It has to do with their money.

If a person lives in South or West Ukraine, and he wants to leave the country, where does he go and why? He goes where he can afford to go. And, he isn't going to cross Ukraine through a new Ukraine government that is against him.

This means Europe West, which is right next to him, and is easy to get to. Just because he went to Europe, doesn't mean he is in favor of what Zelensky is doing. It means it was the easy, practical, affordable way to get out of a coming war... getting away from what Z was doing.

Now that he understands that it was Europe that was pulling Z's strings, and MI6 that was doing the election fraud, he is in a big quandary.
How to get safely to Russia.
Where to find the money.
How to help get Z and the EU out of Ukraine.

Lots of questions.

[BADecker]

Whatever losses may have occurred in Russia from Ukraine drone and missile attacks (really Western Europe attacks), Russia is continuing its moves on Ukraine... and especially Kiev. If you want to stay in Kiev, that's up to you. But expect that your life will be in more danger as time rolls on. Expect that Zelensky won't be there. He'll be off somewhere recruiting more funds, etc., from the West.


Russia Strikes Ukraine Government Complex, Near Zelensky's Office, In War's Biggest Air Attack


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-strikes-ukraine-government-complex-near-zelenskys-office-wars-biggest-air
After a summer which has seen literally dozens of Ukrainian cross-border attacks on Russia's vital oil and energy infrastructure, President Putin is increasingly going gloves off, hitting 'decision-making centers' in Ukraine with drone and missile strikes, something previously not seen in well over three years of war.

Russia launched its largest-ever aerial assault on Ukraine early Sunday, sending over 800 drones across the country, which included decoys. The prior largest strike, which happened in July, saw around 730 drones sent. At least nine missiles also made impact on Sunday, local officials said. Some sources say the fresh assault may be seen up to 1,000 projectiles launched.

Crucially, this is the first ever aerial strike directly targeted Ukraine's cabinet of ministers, a major government complex in the heart of central Kiev. Government buildings in the capital have thus far been sparred in the Russian 'special military operation' (SMO) - but Sunday's attack suggests the Kremlin could be turning toward all-out war.

It certainly at the very least is a loud warning at a moment Ukraine has been escalating its own cross-border drone attacks on oil refineries, defense sector factories, and Russian airbases. At least five Ukrainians were killed in the new nation-wide, broad drone assault - including a woman and child in the capital, the NY Times reports.

AFP has said that one of its correspondents witnessed flames engulfing the roof of the cabinet building, verified in emerging photos, with thick smoke rising above the center part of the capital. Several high-rise apartment buildings also were reportedly struck and suffered damage.

The same report noted that for the first time of the conflict, emergency crews are battling blazes at a central government complex, with helicopters seen overhead doing water-drop runs. This government area of the city is typically well-guarded by anti-air defenses, and it looks like the Russians overwhelmed these systems.
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[WillyAp]

People going to the EU has nothing to do with where their hearts and their vote lie. It has to do with their money.

It shows what they are after, not what they talk about.
Similar to muslims living in no muslim countries asking for sharia. It should be applied to them. Exclusively.
Raping is punished by stoning according to sharia: https://islamqa.info/en/answers/72338/punishment-for-rape-in-islam

[BADecker]

People going to the EU has nothing to do with where their hearts and their vote lie. It has to do with their money.

It shows what they are after, not what they talk about.
Similar to muslims living in no muslim countries asking for sharia. It should be applied to them. Exclusively.
Raping is punished by stoning according to sharia: https://islamqa.info/en/answers/72338/punishment-for-rape-in-islam

And what are they after. Life and prosperity. The best way to get it is to get away from Zelensky... the fastest, easiest way possible. Once that is done, then they can figure out the rest.

Many Ukrainians in Ukraine - those who couldn't escape - are feeding Russia with the coordinates of drone manufacturing plants, and other military centers of Ukraine. All Russia has to do is confirm it with satellite photos, and then act on the info. And that is what Russia is doing.

Ukraine troops are caught between a rock and a hard place. They can't surrender, because their own commanders will execute them if they try. So do some make-believe fighting, and hope Russia will take them prisoner rather than outright executing them.